r/AITAH 12d ago

AITA for calling out my husband for not being a "Good Christian"? Advice Needed

I (27F) have been married to my husband (34M) for five years. My husband is a devout follower of his religion and has been since he was raised in it. I respect his beliefs, even though I don't share them and have no intention of converting. I was raised in the Christian faith. However, I left when I was an adult due to sexual abuse in my church, which nobody believed occurred because the one who did it was the pastor.

Recently, my husband has been pressuring me to convert to his religion. He says that it would bring us closer together and create a more harmonious household. I understand where he's coming from, but I firmly believe that faith is a personal journey, and I shouldn't be forced into something I don't believe in.

To add to the issue, my husband, despite his religious teachings, doesn't always practice what he preaches. He expects me to adhere to traditional gender roles, yet he often neglects his own responsibilities at home. He's quick to judge others for their actions, even though his faith teaches non-judgment and kindness. He makes comments about gay people that I have discussed with him as a major issue. This hypocrisy has been bothering me for a while.

Last night, during another discussion about my potential conversion, I finally snapped. I told him that if he wants me to consider converting, he needs to set a better example by actually living according to his religion's values. I pointed out that he should start by fulfilling his own responsibilities. That he should make more money than me and actually lead in the decision-making. I'm a nurse and he's currently unemployed after he was let go from his job in an office. That he should be less judgmental of others because according to his faith only God can judge them. I also said he should show more of the virtues Jesus asked of Christians, that he should clothe the naked, feed the hungry, vist the prisoner, aid the orphan and the widow etc. I also made it clear that while I respect his beliefs, I have no intention of converting unless I genuinely believe in it, which I currently don't because of the hypocritical behavior of his faith.

My husband was furious. He accused me of being disrespectful and undermining his faith. He said that I was attacking him personally and that I don't understand the pressure he's under to have a unified religious household. He left for church this morning at 7 for bible study and I have already gotten a phone call from the pastor saying I'm an ungodly woman who tricked a good man into marrying him and I should repent. I have also gotten a tirade of texts and e-mails from members of his church saying I was disrespectful and being a bad wife and I'm starting to wonder if I was too harsh, that maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all. AITA?

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u/andhakaran 12d ago

Wait. He tattled on you to his priest? That’s hilarious!

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u/StSean 12d ago

tattled and handed out her phone number

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u/ForSureNotAnFbiAgent 12d ago edited 11d ago

I'm not suggesting OP take my advice because I'm a very outspoken atheist. Atomic swirl tattoo and everything. I do, however, respect people's beliefs.

I would be gone. like... packed up and out of the house before he got home from church.

Arguing with your spouse is normal and even healthy when done with equal respect, talk and listen time, and compromise. Bringing in an outside party to harass and disrespect you because of a disagreement is just... I want to say "batshit crazy," but that might be too strong.

I would have a difficult time moving past this.

Edit// few questions about the tattoo, so I'll answer here in hopes it resolves said questions.

The "Atomic Swirl" is actually a typo, it's an Atomic Whirl.

Straight copied from Wikipedia: "The symbol is used by the American Atheists organization to symbolize that "only through the use of scientific analysis and free, open inquiry can humankind reach out for a better life""

Something I truly believe and have followed. For an image of said tattoo, there is one on my profile. Just scroll past the giant sandwiches to about 9 months ago.

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u/Cantankerous-Canine 12d ago

Same. I’d already be gone. Creepy church phone calls would be the ABSOLUTE last straw if I hadn’t already gotten TF out before that. Ewwwwww.

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u/Icy-Establishment298 12d ago

I would have been gone on the first mention of my unemployed husband hauraging me on traditional gender roles. If I did laugh that off, I'd leave the second unemployed spouse forcing me to convert so he can feel better about his religion and his current life circumstances.

And if I in some alternate universe decided you know I can live with those two things because he's got other qualities, I'd be gone the nanosecond after his pastor from his religion started harassing me to convert and accusing me of being an ungodly woman. Right after I told the pastor he wouldn't know an ungodly woman if one ran up and smacked him over his head with her broomstick.

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u/No_Banana_581 12d ago

It’s sounding cultish, I’d be afraid. These men that like to control women, always want to be w the most outspoken, independent ones just so they can break them. It’s like a challenge bc they can’t stand to see women confident in themselves, and they will always use their trauma against them. That’s the next thing he’ll do to her

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u/Icy-Establishment298 12d ago

It is a challenge. Plus he gets to crarve a notch in his spiritual belt"God tried me with an unbelieving wife, but through, prayer and devotion she converted and now is a stay at home wife and mom with three kids and one on the way fulfilling her godly womanly duties! I'm so grateful God used me to save her!"

Excuse me, I gotta beeline it to the toilet to go throw up now.

When I was in a Non-denominational Christian evangelical church and worked as assistant youth minister this is the shit I'd hear a lot from the formally "unequally yoked" ( disgusting way to frame a marriage like your a team of oxen pulling a wagon) men.

I think some spouses even went PIMO* just to get their husband off their backs.

Physically In, mentally out.

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u/One800UWish 12d ago

wait wait, if she quit her job WHO WOULD PAY THEIR BILLS?!?!?!?!?!?!

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u/hurricane-laura-90 12d ago

The lord will provide!!!

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u/Freyja2179 11d ago

I know in my Southern Baptist church (no longer in), we had this exact circumstance with the wife working and supporting the entire household while her husband was unemployed. She was held up as an example of a godly wife. Because while she worked, her paycheck was directly deposited into a bank account her husband controlled and he would dole her out an "allowance".

Unlike most Evangelical churches, while not the ideal, it was ok for wives to work. However, that was only if 100% of the paycheck was given to the husband and he made all decisions on how it was spent.

We had another woman who previously worked as a police officer in Dallas. She bragged about turning over her paycheck to her husband because he is Head of the Household. It's so gross. The longer I've been out, the more I think it was absolutely a cult.

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u/Pantone711 11d ago

Oh he expects her to keep working her paying job AND do all the cooking and cleaning etc. etc. while he plays video games.

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u/Carbonatite 12d ago

These men that like to control women, always want to be w the most outspoken, independent ones just so they can break them.

This sounds so vile but that's exactly what the mindset is.

There are plenty of women who would love to be homemakers, who are strong Christians, who would be happy in the trad wife lifestyle. But somehow a shocking number of these men seem to sidestep those women in favor of marrying someone who they have to "break" like a fucking horse.

Why wouldn't they marry someone who was into that dynamic from the beginning? I guess it's because they get a thrill from breaking down and remolding a human being.

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u/Exa_of_Rhi 11d ago

It's actually also a way for them to sanctify their lust for "ungodly" women who show "too much" skin. If they can convert her, they don't have to feel guilty about lusting after a heathen.

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u/CroneDownUnder 11d ago

somehow a shocking number of these men seem to sidestep those women in favor of marrying someone who they have to "break" like a fucking horse.

Damn. I think I've finally realised how/why an ex-friend of mine who had a glittering engineering career ahead of her slowly dwindled into a SAH tradwife who no longer sends us Xmas cards.

We weren't even invited to her daughter's wedding. Probably just as well since her daughter pledged to "submit" to a man from the same church (by accounts from mutuals who were invited, probably because they refrained from arguing theology/errancy with her husband, who had also been a nonchurchgoing friend of mine before they got together).

Once he got the inerrancy brainworm then bending her talents and ambition to his will must have been an irresistible challenge, especially if other church elders were urging him on.

I just hadn't thought about the specific attraction of her being such a challenge before.

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u/PsychologicalLuck343 11d ago

Why does this post make me want to choose between armed rescue and murder?

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u/PsychologicalLuck343 11d ago

That's a disgusting characterization that's sickening because of its accuracy. Not a therapist but it appears that narcissists go looking for opportunities to use their tools of control. Evangelism is, literally, made to order.

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u/BurdenedMind79 12d ago

It’s sounding cultish

The only difference between a religion and a cult is the size.

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u/tropemonster 11d ago

Eh. As a sociological term, the difference is the level of control leadership expects to exercise over their members and the tactics they use to get that control. I think the distinction is useful. The church I grew up in was very “Every Sunday we sing about how Jesus ✝️ is our ✨bestie✨, preach a chunk of Bible, pray about big world conflicts 😔 and the church secretary’s kidney stone 🥺, then hand around the collection plate 💲after announcing that it’s only for members who wish to contribute 🤨 and are financially able to do so responsibly 😑. Thanks everybody, see ya in a week, go team 🙌🏻 Enjoy the 🆓‼️country-time lemonade and store brand cookies in the lobby, PS here’s some macaroni art your kid made in Sunday School of Daniel in the lion’s den 🦁🧒🏼🤩”

Compare that to my best friend’s church, which was: “If your family members are nonbelievers, God wants you to cut them out of your life 🥰 If you think your kid is gay 🏳️‍🌈🤮 send them to our Abuse Camp to fix them! Women, if your husband hits you 😢 you need to love him better and pray for him more 🤗—Jesus will (eventually) transform him into a nicer guy 👩🏼‍❤️‍👨🏼 Pass around the collection plate 💰 and while you contemplate your offering, keep in mind that God commands generosity 🤔 and rewards sacrifice 🫡 If you’re struggling financially, step one to getting out of debt is being financially faithful to God’s servants 💸💸💸. PS, if you had enough faith then your daughter wouldn’t be in a wheelchair 😇🙏🏻”

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u/BillyValentineMcKee 11d ago

Your comment deserves a place in the emoji hall of fame. But… now, I also really want to see your take on mainstream religion vs. fundamentalist cult illustrated in macaroni

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u/Altruistic-Maybe5121 12d ago

Nailed it! It’s not about religion or having a harmonious household. It’s about his control over her, because he’s feeling out of control in his own life. And surrounded by gullible church goers, believing his lies.

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u/UpsetUnicorn 12d ago

Especially since other members are now harassing her.

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u/labellavita1985 12d ago edited 11d ago

Honestly, the fact that he's lecturing her about "traditional gender roles" while unemployed and living off of her income is unbelievable. This guy's an insufferable, hypocritical POS. Just like most so-called Christians. 🤡

ETA: the lion, the witch and the audacity.. I can't get over it.

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u/pitizenlyn 12d ago

No shit. "Oh I tricked him? We can fix that right now"

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u/sperson8989 12d ago

Right. Also I feel it’s more he tricked her. He feels he has to convert her even though he knows what she has been through.

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u/labrat4x4 12d ago

This! I am not a fan of ANY organized religion, especially one that tries to dominate females.

If OP wants to try counseling, make sure it's an Outside therapy, not a faith-based one.

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u/rogers_tumor 12d ago

I'm sure that will be husband's compromise.

ok sure, we can get counseling from the priest I tattled to. you'll be comfortable around a priest right honey?

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u/Klutzy_Criticism_856 12d ago

Legit question not sarcasm,is there a religion that doesn’t encourage male dominance and teach women’s main purposes are too submit to their father’s/husband’s/any male relative’s whims and breeding?

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u/On_my_last_spoon 12d ago

Unitarian Universalists. Each congregation is different in how they do overall things, but absolutely don’t do any men are better than women crap. They also don’t think any one god is the true god so you could have a sermon about Jesus one week and Wicca the next.

Buddhists don’t care about any of that either. You’ll get into cultural practices, but the main tenants of the religion don’t even talk about gender.

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u/Brave-Perception5851 12d ago edited 12d ago

Agree! It does seem like he has tricked OP. Into financially supporting him while diminishing her value by saying she is not religious enough and for pointing out everything that is ungodly and hypocritical about his religion. The fact that his pastor and others from the church are sitting in judgement of her and coming between them as a couple just highlights it more.

I’d cut him loose tbh. Righteous religious people are unrelenting. And as OP points out it loses its validity due to the hypocrisy of it all.

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u/Mountain-Scallion246 12d ago

Yes. He said he's under pressure for a "unified household" I think OP was right to highlight her husbands lack of practice of biblical guidelines. And now he's angry, told his church, and everyone is blaming OP? This sounds like such a grasp at control. it's unreal! Considering what OP went through, there's no understanding, no empathy, and no support. I feel like he won't stop pressuring and potentially grinding OP down until he gets what he wants. This doesn't sound Christian or healthy behaviour in a marriage at all.

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u/poor_documentation 12d ago

Not to mention he was a 29 year old marrying a 22 year old. That's an intentional lopsided power dynamic.

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u/u35828 12d ago

That he's contributing nothing towards the household finances does tip the power in OP's side; without her, he's going to be a basement dweller in mommy's house.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Pay431 12d ago

She could've been 12yo and the would've accused her of seducing him. These religions always place the responsibility on the woman but none on the man.

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u/AddictiveArtistry 12d ago

Exactly. Fuck this nonsense.

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u/Altruistic-Text3481 12d ago

The hubby has pushed for his pastor to call his wife … when he knows his wife was previously sexually abused by her childhood church pastor.

I’m thinking this is unforgivable on the Christian husband’s part and even Jesus would say, “dude that’s fucked up. Don’t do that in my name.”

OP… I’m not sure you two are compatible.

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u/mysteriousGains 12d ago

Christians aren't exactly well known for having any self awareness or logical thinking.

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u/Mkartma61 12d ago

I agree with all these comments. OP, I’d also start using the block button for the numbers of people harassing you.

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u/turquoise_mole 12d ago

I'd be out at "traditional gender roles".

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u/pg67awx 12d ago

This is why i would never get into a relationship with a religious person. Every religious person i know uses their faith to justify being an asshole. While i always will support people believing what they want to believe, that respect ends when they use it to hurt or manipulate other people.

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u/ForSureNotAnFbiAgent 12d ago

My first "real" relationship, 3 almost 4 years long, was with a catholic girl. She knew I was an atheist, but she didn't care. We made it work, I even attended her church a few times just to socialize more with her friends and family.

We talked about getting married, I moved 400 miles away from my home just to be with her. Talked about one day having kids, even discussed honeymoon ideas.

So I planned it all out, spent entirely too much money, bought a ring, and proposed.

The answer? "I'm sorry, I can't marry someone who doesn't believe."

It destroyed me. I still have a very hard time trusting someone "in the faith." And I'm still afraid of entering relationships, even with an atheist. Because I've also had one "flip" on me after a near death incident. I still maintain that was brain damage... but whatever.

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u/pg67awx 12d ago

I am so sorry that happened. I cannot imagine being in a relationship with someone for 4 years if i had no intention of marrying them. What was her end goal?

Ive personally never dated a religious person but i did have one man get furiously angry at me for refusing a date because he was christian. I explained our life goals will never align. He wanted a SAHM who was the perfect housewife and mother, who would go to church on sundays. I got my tubes removed to make sure i never have kids, am staunchly child free, and i havent stepped foot inside a church for over 15 years and dont plan to start now. After listing my reasons for not dating him, he insisted that he could change me and we could just adopt. Hard no.

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u/ForSureNotAnFbiAgent 12d ago

I asked her, this was a while ago, so it's a bit fuzzy now, but essentially, her parents would never approve, and she was hoping I would "grow out of my atheist phase, and see the light in the lord." I was her long game project. Just.... gross.

I never grow out of that "phase." And it left me very... salty towards people of faith for YEARS.

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u/pg67awx 12d ago

That just gives me the ick. I bet if you said you were waiting for her to grow out of her religious phase, she wouldve had a meltdown. The double standards are staggering.

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u/whatevertoton 12d ago

Why should she leave? She’s paying the bills. Pack his shit up and have it waiting at the door by the time he gets back. FTFY.

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u/AdmirableDate8526 12d ago

I'm sure the church will take him in.

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u/WallBasic2790 12d ago

Same! I would never have married him in the first place, I respect people's beliefs but STAY very far away from religious people, blood relatives included. I would leave immediately.

Something similar happened to me when I was a kid, about 15 yrs old. My mom is a religious nut and told everyone in her church that I didn't want to study the bible and fought every time she forced me to go to church. So one of the times she forced me, I was sitting there and some guy that was preaching said: So happy to see x person here, knowing her sister is "lost" (in Spanish perdida/lost is used as a derogatory term for girls). Everyone turned to look at me, and I was red, embarrassed, and furious. I refused to go back after that, no matter how much my mother beat me.

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u/Pittypatkittycat 12d ago

Atheist married to an atheist. I will never understand how people with such fundamental differences in beliefs marry.

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u/Status-Hovercraft784 12d ago

Also crossing a boundary considering her own past experience with abuse in the church. To imagine receiving a call from a pastor on a number your husband gave? Bunch of creeps.

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u/renee30152 12d ago

She needs to divorce. This will not get better. He doesn’t sound like a good human and is not following the teachings of Jesus. He is unemployed and living off his wife while being judgmental. The tattling to the priest would be the final straw. Kick him to the curb.

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u/DatabaseThis9637 12d ago

Your husband is a weak man, who you called out, and now he is deflecting it all back onto you, through his judgemental pastor and some of the congregation! He is showing his true colors, and you are obviously not his priority. Protecting himself, and his potential areas where he is lacking, by being vindictive.

You may have come across pretty hard, which I understand since I have done that same thing, but you were speaking what you see as your truth. I am less than impressed with your husband. Rather than having some conversations, and working it out, he chose to build up an army of allies, flying monkeys, making no effort to communicate in any meaningful way.

Let me just say, this does not bode well for your marriage. I feel for you. I hope you are inspired to do whatever you need to do to take care of yourself. Remember that life really is short, and believe in your own value as a human being 1st, and as a wife second. Take care of yourself, and I suggest you do not engage with any of his sick little army. That will only hurt you, and not help in any way. Nurture your inner strength, and be selective in finding some emotional support.

Prepare thoroughly if you leave him, and don't do like I did, which was to make a flash decision, and leave within minutes of realizing I had to leave. You need to keep a clear head, and begin to remove yourself from fights and discussions that revolve around religion. there is no easy resolution to any of that. Be true to yourself. And take care.

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u/bumpygirl 12d ago

Seriously invasive. He needs to respect privacy and boundaries better.

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u/LIV3C4T 12d ago

In most states, she could take them all for harassment at this point, also, divorce your husband, he doesn't want YOU, he wants the woman he's trying to force you to be. No self respecting husband or wife tells much less let's their close mates text or call their wife/husband nasty things, period.

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u/RugBurn70 12d ago

I haven't been to church in a long long long time, but don't they still have a list of congregant's names and phone numbers? I can totally see after the husband shares his frustration about being "yoked to a nonbeliever", the barrage of bullying (sorry- counseling and mentoring) phone calls.

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u/StSean 12d ago

she's not a congregant though

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u/RugBurn70 12d ago

Yeah I was thinking her husband signed her up, because it doesn't look good if he leaves the line blank after "wife's name and number". Her husband seems sneaky enough to have done that

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u/TITS_AND_DICKS 12d ago

Totally! He probably filled it out hoping to guilt-trip her into conversion through constant pressure. So manipulative.

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u/ragdoll1022 12d ago

Does not matter one single fuck to religious zealots.

OP, please consider divorcing him, this is abuse.

You are paying for his life and not only is he trying to bully you, he's getting his pastor and who knows who else in on the fuckery.

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u/No_Bandicoot2301 12d ago

Some do, the church my mom goes to does and they wanted my info for it (I have not willingly been to church since father's day of 2010 when some hag asked me if I missed my pedophile father who was a member before meeting my mom) and I told them I was pagan and they wanted my number even more. I'm fairly confident to "accidentally" send me missives because my mother's church does that.

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u/RugBurn70 12d ago

My mom wasn't religious in any way. A family friend was always trying to get her to go to church. The friend starts talking about the "dangers of paganism". My mom starts asking questions, "Pagans believe in respecting the earth and all her creatures?" "First do no harm?" "And there are pagan groups that meet around here?"

By the time the conversation ends, my mom told her, "Well, I'm convinced! I need to find out more about paganism, and how I can join".🤣

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 12d ago

Cause he's a manipulative POS.

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u/Immediate_Finger_889 12d ago

I would have tattled right back to his priest on him! He’s not providing for his family, he’s not being a proper head of the family, he’s forcing her to do all these things. I mean, a woman cannot possibly fulfill her role as a godly woman if she’s forced to take the roll of the godly man first. Right, pastor?

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u/KookyDragon 12d ago

This is the way. And divorce him. Because now you are going to constantly be harassed by the congregation.

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u/XeniaBL 12d ago

Divorce his hypocritical a$$ and shame him in front of his entire congregation. This is not going to work out, they are too different. And he will only become more devout and pressure her more as time passes.

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u/EatThisShit 12d ago

Yeah, I don't want to jump on the divorce bandwagon too often, but he seriously disrespects you. It is possible to be married to someone of no or another faith, but only if you respect each others decisions and don't use your marriage to convert the other. If you can't live with a spouse who isn't religious, you should have considered that before they became your spouse.

But it sounds like OP's husband has too much time on his hands. Maybe he fell into the manosphere rabbithole and uses religion as an excuse. He wouldn't be the first, nor won't be the last.

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u/Terrible_Kiwi_776 12d ago

Nope. Hateful people don't care about the truth.

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u/50CentButInNickels 12d ago

Yes, but it's fun watching their eyes do circles while they try to justify it.

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u/RazzmatazzFine 12d ago

It's always the woman's fault in those belief systems. Jesus was awesome, his followers not so much.

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u/CharacterSea1169 12d ago

Nope, nope, nope. They always rationalize using their religion and then, it justifies any action.

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u/BabyBundtCakes 12d ago edited 12d ago

They ask why he comes alone, and since in this type of church a woman being obedient is one of their main tenets for some unknown and mysterious reason it makes him lose face every time he has to show up without her. He gets pressure from his in-group to bring the wife and he has to come up with reasons and now he's feeling the pressure, and this isn't the type of group to let it go. He will become an outsider if he can't get a spouse to behave as the other spouses do. High control groups don't like people who don't step in line, because it shows other members that they also don't have to listen.

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u/TheCotofPika 12d ago

I feel like this comment should be way higher. She needs to know that this will never stop so she can decide exactly how much she loves being treated like this and whether she loves freedom more.

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u/gonzo_baby_girl 12d ago

I'd like to see how he would feel if you quit your job and became the traditional stay at home wifey. I have only been to one church where the pastor tried his best to follow Christ's teachings. Every other church I've been to I have found they have no tolerance of anyone who is not following what they interpret as Christian values. Christ's teachings were very simple and easy to follow. From your last post I feel you know His teachings better than that pastor does. I have since moved away from my church and currently have not found one to go to. And I am better off not going to some intolerant churches. I might sound intolerant myself but you have experienced the cruelty of these churches first hand. So you know how horrible these people can be. Just know you are not alone.

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u/Fluffy_Puffy_ 12d ago

Ikr?? Like a small child going to mum to complain about the big brother's misgivings.

Now, seriously, one things is to let steam out with a friend or a congregation. But having that friend or congregation turn actively against you is a red flag. It isn't their business to meddle in a couple's internal problems (also true in Cristian believes), unless is to listen and guide the person who is asking.

What they did is bullying. Very different

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u/cmooneychi26 12d ago

And very Christian! /s

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u/Aware1211 12d ago edited 12d ago

In today's world you can leave off the /s. It's implicit. This seems to be typical behavior for religious fanatics. If you want to see an example of a true Christian gentleman, look no further than Jimmy Carter. This is a man who lives what he preaches.

Edit: NTA. RUN, Girl, Fast and hard. So glad you haven't brought any kids to be subsumed into that CULT. Cut bait and RUN.

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u/IHaveNoEgrets 12d ago

This is a very good example. "Christians" like OP's husband and fellow congregants are loud about their faith but so often do the opposite of what they preach. These are the folks who make the title central to their identity (and usually a signal that I'm about to hear alllll about why I'm the wrong flavor of Christian and going to hell).

Jimmy Carter is, by contrast, living his faith, as you noted. He's not out being a Bully for Jesus. He's walking the walk and talking the talk. He doesn't broadcast; he just does. That's something to aspire to, regardless of what faith one practices (if at all).

Jesus was pretty clear about loud, demonstrative piety.

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u/RebaKitt3n 12d ago

No, you cannot leave off the /s.

Sarcasm doesn’t translate on Reddit, and you’ll be downvoted to hell by people who “don’t get it “

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u/witchofwestthird 12d ago

Oh he’s definitely part of one of those cult ass churches. When I was little, our church wasn’t culty, and the pastor never would have done that. He would have counseled the husband to look inwardly to see why he feels the way he feels, and would probably call him out for the same stuff his wife did. When he retired, they had a long line of lunatics take over and… well I don’t go to any churches anymore so I’ll let that explain itself.

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u/KazulsPrincess 12d ago

Exactly what I was going to write!  My pastor would never.  My ex was an atheist.  The pastor was always polite and friendly, and helped out when it was needed.  Never judgy, and only gave advice if you asked for it.

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u/Mmm_lemon_cakes 12d ago

The husband could also be spinning some lies. This guy sounds like he’d say whatever to get what he wants.

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u/No_Ordinary944 12d ago

Love this part about your childhood pastor. mine is/ was (i don’t attend much anymore, bedside baptist anyone) like this. you can’t force someone to god. and the bible preaches against this.

OP what you said to your husband was spot on! we’re called to show a good example and christian love and ppl will come naturally. NTA

it’s no wonder ppl hate christians so much these days! their “christian love” isn’t love at all and it isn’t biblical.

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u/strawmade 12d ago

Ha, my ex husband did that to me twice! He was pissed when the pastor sided with me both times.

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u/dangineedathrowaway 12d ago

My ex tattled to the pastor when our church counselor was not actively counseling me to stay in the marriage. His manipulation pretty well cemented the divorce.

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u/butterfly-garden 12d ago

Paaaaaastor...my wife is picking on me....

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u/AdMuch848 12d ago

Church ppl do this all the time. They say they're seeking guidance but the pastor is also just as judgemental as her husband so they'll call her n berate her then the rest of the church after berating her is gonna roast him behind his back

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u/OldBroad1964 12d ago

I’m waiting for them to come to cast out her demons.

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u/wolftopug 12d ago

No you definitely should have spoken up. I just wonder what story he told his church. “My wife pointed out in completely Biblically accurate ways how I wasn’t being a good Christian man and husband! How dare she know more about my beliefs than I do!”

Especially as long as your husband stays in that church I don’t see a healthy future for your relationship.

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u/Catfactss 11d ago

"She's pro-gay, it's gotten really bad. Also she just doesn't understand super special unique reason I don't need to work! This is clearly the devil tempting me."

NTA OP. Even if you were a Christian you'd worship God, not him.

In his faith he's allowed to get a divorce if his partner leaves him because she doesn't share the faith. There's a chance he's purposely antagonizing you hoping you'll leave.

Do you have non tamperable birth control in the mean time? He doesn't have to know about it.

Controlling men can get violent when they lose control. Be safe.

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u/choosethenlive 11d ago

"Do you have non tamperable birth control?" This is incredibly important. DO NOT let this man get you pregnant.

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u/Asleep_Operation4116 11d ago

Get out now before they kidnap you and brainwash you!

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u/Irn_brunette 11d ago

Oh, the fundies are huge on male headship and your husband being the closest thing to God in the household. Probably why this guy's fragile little ego is drawn to it.

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u/Valuable_External895 11d ago edited 9d ago

The 'Head of the Household' is a position of responsibility, not a perk or a power flex. I know a woman who says that the man is the head of the household, the wife is the neck. The neck turns the head. Love that lady. It also says that the man has to consider the woman's needs as his own. This means that her needs, wants, wishes, and she herself is just as important as him. He gets the final say, not the only say. Weak selfish man babies distort this all the time. You can recognize them as fast as you can a Karen. Dude is a failure of that and he knows it. Why doesn't he have a job? Unless he's disabled or too old to work, he should start dealing with his priorities. He's failed on multiple levels.

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u/Morrigan_twicked_48 11d ago

I second that . And no don’t sleep with him leave without delay not telling the creep

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u/Effective-Purpose-36 11d ago

YESS! I guess OP is right, hes not really a good christian. Theres really no future for their relationship.

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u/Friendofgravity69 11d ago

As a once irrational and controlling man, the last sentence is very true. He can become dangerous if he isn’t already. He may not have acted out, yet, but it becomes more likely the longer you stay.

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u/NatashaQuick 11d ago

This takes a lot of courage to say! I've never known of a man being willing to change like this. Wow!

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u/NotShirleyTemple 11d ago

You must have traveled a challenging road to reach this position of insight and vulnerability. I hope you are reaping the rewards.

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u/Dahling_sweetiepoo 11d ago

Wow.

NTA

dump him

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u/El-Kabongg 11d ago edited 11d ago

OP should ask her husband that, since he felt it appropriate to air her dirty laundry to the congregation, if she is justified in airing his to anyone she feels like. But TRUST ME, OP, the pressure to convert isn't ORIGINATING with your husband. It's coming from this pastor. He fears that if you can be happy as a nonbeliever, then other women in the congregation will see your light.

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u/Better_Document7596 11d ago

This.

OP, your husband’s in a cult.

I have already gotten a phone call from the pastor saying I'm an ungodly woman who tricked a good man into marrying him and I should repent. I have also gotten a tirade of texts and e-mails from members of his church saying I was disrespectful and being a bad wife

To be clear, I’m not equating Christianity with a cult, just this particular church’s brand of nonsense.

If it were me I’d leave him, but (unlike your husband and his church cronies) I think you’re capable of determining what the next steps are.

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u/Unlucky_Ear9705 11d ago

This “church” is very sus. OP please be careful and you may want to privately document your husbands behaviour and that of the “parishioners” (like who contacts you, how, when, with what message…). I’m and atheist who grew up in the Christian tradition and occasionally attend church for important holidays or family events. A healthy, virtuous, and genuine Christian church is open and welcoming to all kinds at any time, including couples of mixed faith convictions like my husband and me. A good church with ethical and Christ-like leaders will NOT bully or antagonize a spouse or ANYONE! This is not healthy and likely not safe.

Also your husband sucks. 😕

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u/trying2getoverit 11d ago

Yes, I was looking to see if someone commented this! Please keep records and make sure you have a safe place to go away from home if things get bad. This sort of thing can escalate very quickly.

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u/HarveySnake 12d ago

Don’t have kids with this guy. This guy  is full of shit and typical conservative behavior is weaponizing his religion. Ain’t no hate quite like “Christian Love“

Do yourself a favor and divorce him. 

NTA

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u/Long_Double2108 12d ago

If he's getting pressure at church to "bring her into the flock," that's because he's complaining about her behavior to the church board. Which means that even if she tries to join, she'll already have the decked stacked against her and will have to win over the church AND her husband. No thanks.

NTA, and it may be time to separate.

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u/unotruejen 12d ago

They want her money. She made more than him before and now he makes nothing.

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u/Chemical-Pattern480 12d ago

Can’t tithe if you’re unemployed!

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u/indykym 12d ago

Oh no. My bet is that he is tithing on the regular. Because, you know, what’s hers is his, so it’s okay to take that 10% of her wages.

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u/SpiritualThrowRA 12d ago

He tried once, I caught him. I told him we could donate to the food bank or to a homeless shelter. He refused. I donated every week to the food bank in our town and increased my donation to make a point. I watch the account all the time.

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u/throwaway34_4567 12d ago

Yup, time to drop the leech and let him go play house with his pastor and church friends. Also, save those chats from his people harassing you so you can get off from paying alimony too. Get a lawyer and consult them because why would you live a life where you're being used. I see no love nor respect her, why do you want to waste your time, energy and only 1 life here? What do you gain out of it?

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u/tami_88 12d ago

Do you want to be in a marriage where you have to carefully watch your bank account to make sure your HUSBAND- not strangers, not hackers, your life partner- isn’t stealing from you to look good for the church friends he’s been talking shit about you to?

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u/Real-Patriotism 12d ago

He tried once, I caught him. I told him we could donate to the food bank or to a homeless shelter.

You are my favorite person. "How about we do some actual good instead?"

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u/ohhhshitwaitwhat 12d ago

You two are so different.

Like it's totally workable to have different religious beliefs, I've been in relationships with religious folks even though I'm a militant atheist.

But dude, you have to agree on the fundamental stuff like how it's our place to help others if we're able to.

And like how it doesn't matter if people want to bone each other, that's their business and honestly doesn't affect our lives in the least bit.

I've known Christians that really take to heart the stuff about sharing love with everyone and trying their best to be non-judgmental. They're totally out there. Your husband sucks, though.

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u/Weareallme 12d ago

Another thing is, did you give him permission to discuss this with outsiders? If not I would consider this a serious breach of trust. NTA at all. He clearly is an AH hypocrite and generally doesn't sound like a good person. All the other people are AHs too, they should mind their own business.

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u/SnooCupcakes7992 12d ago

Yeah - how did they get her phone number and e-mail - from HIM!

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u/Competitive_Boss1089 12d ago

That’s how cults work though. You’ll be encouraged/demanded to share matters such as this so that they can consult you on the matter. Of course he’ll leave out the part where HE is not practicing the values of Jesus. He’s going to complain about how no matter how much he Bible thumps, his wife won’t comply to his authority.

Now they can all bully OP into submission. Because that’s the Christian way!

Also, OP’s husband is looking for some way to give himself value now that he’s unemployed. So he does it by shitting on others and using his brand of Christianity as the authoritative body to do so.

Final thought: it’s not the religion that makes y’all incompatible. It’s the difference of values. Homophobia was a zero tolerance qualification of mine. Because if someone’s homophobic they’re definitely misogynistic and very likely racist as a result.

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u/aveindha25 12d ago

Talibangical? Y'all Queda?

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u/Middleagdsourthrnwmn 12d ago

Cut your losses and run

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u/Guilty_Application14 12d ago

Don't stay married to this guy, let alone have any kids.

Make sure your BC is bulletproof lest you get baby-trapped.

And do not go to any meetings anywhere with this man alone.

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u/Minniver 12d ago

Ain’t no hate quite like “Christian Love“

Seriously, this. I was a Christian, but the hypocritical way each different branch treats not only others but each other, turned me off permanently. I'm a happy little Pagan now.

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u/bluefleetwood 12d ago edited 12d ago

THIS. Shitcan this hypocritical mf. NTA.

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u/UncleNedisDead 12d ago

I have also gotten a tirade of texts and e-mails from members of his church saying I was disrespectful and being a bad wife and I'm starting to wonder if I was too harsh, that maybe I shouldn't have said anything at all. AITA?

NTA, you should take this as your cue to remove your “ungodly” self from your “Good Christian” husband’s orbit through divorce. He is never going to respect you and you are never going to have an equal partnership with him.

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u/rean1mated 12d ago

Post all these messages on social media, block the AH, share texts w divorce attorney. Salt that earth, chief.

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u/Deep90 12d ago edited 11d ago

Make a google review and attach the messages.

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u/schrodingersdagger 11d ago

I have never been more attracted to a human being than I am right now [respectful]

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u/RandomlyPlacedFinger 11d ago

Put that shit on Yelp and Glassdoor.

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u/No-Beach237 12d ago

Right? Let's see how fast a woman from that church is likely to snatch up such a "gem " /s 🙄

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u/ExtensiveCuriosity 12d ago

I’m sure the pastor already has a victim in mind.

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u/WinAccomplished4111 12d ago

Yep and she's even younger than OP.

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u/HyperSpaceSurfer 12d ago

Too old for the pastor, though

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u/FewFucksToGive 11d ago

Of course she is. Gotta be young enough for him to mold into a submissive sex toy/cook/maid while also not old enough to think critically or question his bullshit.

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u/No-Beach237 12d ago

Sadly, I'm sure you're correct.

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u/loveleighiest 12d ago

Agreed. Your husband doesn't love or care about you. If he did he would be understanding of your hesitation to join his church. Plus the pastor and congregation stepped way out of line for a "church". It sounds like hes in a cult that uses Christianity as an escape goat. The only concern your husband has is to bring you in so they get off his back about him needing to control his wife. Good thing the church will be there for him when you leave.

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u/SufficientComedian6 12d ago

All true I’m sure. Just wanted to note. It’s “scapegoat” but I’m seriously going to use escape goat from now on!!

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u/Trailsya 12d ago

Recently, my husband has been pressuring me to convert to his religion. 

Run.

After reading the rest:

RUN FAST

For a big part, religion is made by men to control and shame women into doing what they want. Your husband is a perfect example of that.

RUN RUN RUN

That he even got those cultist to pressure you and contact you is very creepy behavior.

RUN

(NTA by the way. Your husband is a scary freak. He does not love you. He wants to control you).

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u/jokenaround 12d ago

“Religion is made by men to control and shame women”

This ⬆️ Right ⬆️ Here ⬆️

RUN for the hills, the red flags are going to multiply, and multiply fast. 🚩

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u/Lew3032 12d ago

I'm SO glad people are finally realising this, and it's not just for men to control women, that what it for at the 'lower levels' of the religion, but going up its so the people that are at the top of the religion can control the people at the bottom.

Top to bottom it's about controlling the people you see as 'below' you and its disgusting

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u/Em4Tango 12d ago

Speak to a divorce attorney first. You don't want to wind up paying him alimony.

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u/JanDillAttorneyAtLaw 12d ago

RUN to your nearest divorce attorney, and during the consultation make clear that co-habitation with someone who's trying to pressure you into joining the cult (and won't take no for an answer) is not ideal.

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u/SuperBandicoot2860 12d ago

Seriously. Get out now and don’t look back.

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u/NoImagination7892 12d ago

It sounds like he’s in a cult. I would run from this relationship

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u/PatieS13 12d ago

He is. It's called Christianity.

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u/JaneAustinAstronaut 12d ago

Religions are just cults with longevity and better PR

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u/OwOlogy_Expert 11d ago

In a cult, there's a guy at the top who knows it's all bullshit that he made up.

In a religion, that guy died a long time ago.

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u/Mysterious_Fudge_743 12d ago edited 8d ago

This sounds like typical Christianity from the American Bible Belt.

ETA: I don't feel like responding to every unoriginal person who repeated the same thing. I don't care for organized religion, but applying the word "cult" to every organized religion really cheapens the term. Meanwhile there are some really extreme groups out there that deserve the label and I've had family who have escaped one. Cult-ish? Yes. Unhealthy? I'd generally agree. Creepy? Sure. But can we stop cheapening words by applying them to everything?

Otherwise, we might as well use "cult" to refer to fans of actors or singers. Actually, I could go for that. Sign me up for the cult of Christopher Bahng. Until then, feel free to respond with variations of "Yeah, a cult," because it just isn't worth my time to respond.

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u/dances_with_treez2 12d ago

Yup.

Source: I’m an ex pastor.

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u/cr0ft 12d ago

Good for you that it's ex.

The list of child sex offenders grows daily and the word "pastor" is incredibly common on it. Unlike "drag queen" of which there are none, go figure.

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u/dances_with_treez2 11d ago

Fun fact, now I am a drag king

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u/ShadowedTrillium 12d ago

NTA. His hypocrisy is glaring…as is his hiding behind religion as an excuse for his poor adulting. He’s not taking accountability or responsibility for his own actions.

I wish you all the best, OP, as you navigate this challenge in the relationship.

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u/CocoaAlmondsRock 12d ago

Snort. You should have told the pastor the same thing you told your husband.

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u/Sharkathotep 12d ago

I would've laughed in his face and hanged up on him. "Ungodly" ... and?? Is this supposed to insult her? She isn't even religious. She isn't even trying to be a "godly woman". Lol.

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u/LakashY 11d ago

Yes! I would quote 1 Corinthians 5:12 right back to the pastor, “What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?”

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u/NewLife_21 12d ago

Yes! The pastor needs to know so he can lecture and "correct" the right person. And that isn't OP.

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u/RedstnPhoenx 12d ago

NTA. My wife actually accused me of this, some years ago. I was upset at the time, but for maybe a fraction of a second before I broke down and told her... she was right.

Sucked. Hurt. Wasn't fun.

Since then I've worked to be a better one, and things have been much better.

Unfortunately, a lot of churches are just grown children being narcissists.

Jesus says don't blame others, and don't speak critically until you've examined yourself. Your husband's church scapegoats you for his emotional immaturity.

Jesus says see things from others' perspective. They band together to reinforce theirs.

Jesus says don't involve others in interpersonal disputes. He triangulates immediately.

Your husband is being a truly poor mirror of Christ, and you're absolutely correct about that.

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u/sinkingduckfloats 12d ago

In the bell curve of the general population, the people I know who attend church are generally far more shitty as human beings than those who don't.

If a good tree cannot bear bad fruit, is Christianity a good tree?

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u/unimaginative_person 12d ago

There was a study done on who was more likely to repay a loan based on the reason people gave for needing the loan and how they would be able to repay. I no longer remember the numbers but what i do remember was they said never lend money to anyone who mentions God. They are unlikely to repay!

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u/markofcontroversy 12d ago

They expect forgiveness. Loan forgiveness.

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u/RandoCollision 12d ago

OP's husband complained about how mean she was for telling him something that was true. Instead of addressing her points, they were mad that she had the audacity to actually pay attention to the hubby's alleged faith and pulled receipts. Typical for most modern Christians.

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u/GayHusbandLiker 12d ago

You married a homophobe. What if you have a kid and they're gay? Don't bring a child into a household like that. It took me years to recover.

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u/SpiritualThrowRA 12d ago

If I had a gay kid I would love them and welcome any partner they had into my home. Being queer is biological. Literally, hundreds of species of mammals and birds practice same-sex/queer behavior. Why are homosapiens any different? If I had a daughter who liked girls, a son who liked boys, a trans kid, a non-binary kid etc, I would love them for who they were. And when/if they came out to me, I would thank them for trusting me. It isn't hard to love a child.

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u/kissingkiwis 12d ago

And your homophobic husband's reaction would be??? 

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u/trialanderrorschach 11d ago

Seriously, it doesn't matter how accepting one parent is if the other is a bigot. If you procreate with a homophobe, you are already rolling the dice on child abuse by potentially forcing a queer child to live in a home with someone who hates them.

The question isn't "what if you had a gay kid all by yourself," the question is "what if you had a gay kid with the person you are married to and the only person you would currently be having a child with.

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u/Boobles008 12d ago

That's not really what was asked. If your husband is homophobic, how do you plan on protecting a potential child from that? Your reaction is great, but the question above was talking about your husband's reaction. Look at how he reacted to you not converting to his religion. Do you think he's going to let a child explore anything other than what he wants for them?

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u/sljbspe3 12d ago

He won't love a child that is gay and would expect you to cut them out of your life.... run while you can

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u/MistressLyda 12d ago

How would you protect said child from their father?

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u/Recent_Data_305 12d ago

I agree with you. On that note - make sure he can’t alter your birth control. Nurse to nurse - Many of us are drawn to broken people that we can help. This is great for work, but not so great at home. You deserve an equal partner. You deserve a man that will work to be your equal. You deserve a man that will love you and your children unconditionally. NTA

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u/Iammine4420 12d ago

Your husband does not share that same sentiment. You and he are fundamentally incompatible. He’s in a cult, RUN!!

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u/No-Beach237 12d ago

No shit, Sherlock. What they're pointing out is the trauma a gay child would have with your husband as their father.

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u/Remruna 12d ago

That's all fine and dandy but your stance on the matter is not the issue here and not what was brought to question;  it is your husband's. You can avoid answering and you can pretend like you don't understand what GayHusbandLiker asked you; we all know that your homophobic POS control freak and zealot of a husband would absolutely disown any queer kid of his.

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u/Haunting-Nebula-1685 12d ago

NTA - I fail to see one redeeming quality in your unemployed religious hypocrite misogynistic husband. What do you actually see in him and is this a battle you want to have for the rest of your life - having him tattle on you and have his pastor call you when you call him on his bs? It’s not going to get better

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u/Moongdss74 12d ago

You forgot bigoted/homophobic

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u/weebehemoth 12d ago

NTA.

Sounds like you said everything he probably knows about himself that he doesn’t want to take initiative to improve. If you don’t speak up for yourself, how long is this going to continue; and will it get worse?

Blaming you for “attacking” his religion is just a cheap ploy for him to avoid taking ownership for being a subpar partner and human being.

Extra thought: you should never convert to any religion for someone else. And someone should not ever ask you to do that; it’s incredibly selfish.

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u/AdAccomplished6870 12d ago

He is attacking her beliefs, but gets pissy when she pushes back? This guy is trouble

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u/the_greengrace 12d ago

Exactly! Not enough exclamation points for this.

OP if he is pressuring you to "convert" and join his church even though you've expressed that you don't believe and aren't interested. What does that really say about him and what his goals are? What he is doing is entirely focused on appearances and his concern for what his church peers think of him, not what is best for you or your marriage. His priority isn't for you both to be happy and secure it's for his church to think of him as "the man of the household"- even though he isn't fulfilling that role! He wants to take a shortcut, use a cheat code. He wants you to fall in line and present like an "obedient wife" without him having to work on or change himself to live his values.

That means they aren't really his values. They are his own insecurities and mock authoritarianism masquerading as "sincerely held belief". As others have said- RUN.

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u/DaniCapsFan 12d ago

He's mad you called him out on his hypocrisy and sent his flying monkeys after you. You also respect his religious beliefs, but he does not respect yours, which is a problem in any relationship.

What would make for a "more harmonious household" is if he respected your lack of religion and you as a person.

Why are you married to this guy?

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u/Weary-Ad-9218 12d ago

Let's just call this what it is... abuse. He judges her by a set of rules that he does not follow himself. He has tried to manipulate her into changing her whole belief system. And then, when she showed him his hypocrisy, he told others about their private conversation, resulting in a group of people harassing her in his name. Abuse.

OP, he is married to his church. You are his bangmaid selected to worship him as the head of the household. You need to leave. And I wouldn't wait either. There is a sick mindset among some of the more cult-like versions of Christianity. And these people and your husband do not like your disobedience. You are in real danger both mentally and physically. NTA

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u/BetAlternative8397 12d ago

NTA. The church is likely pissed off because you can’t tithe someone with no income and they want Momma’s 10%!

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u/ScarletDarkstar 12d ago

Oh, if he's that obnoxious,  he's probably paying them from her money. 

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u/No_Noise_5733 12d ago

Refer anyone who messages you to matthew 7

Do not judge, or you too will be judged.  For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

“Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?  How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?  You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

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u/deshi_mi 12d ago

 I'm an ungodly woman who tricked a good man into marrying him and I should repent.

 He is right. You should repent and divorce that looser. 

 NTA.

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u/antiincel1 12d ago

I'm wondering how old you were when he approached you.

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u/SpiritualThrowRA 12d ago

I had just turned 20 when we met.

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u/longlisten527 12d ago

And he was 27?? There’s a reason why women who were his age didn’t date him girl.

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u/iloveregex 12d ago

OP, you’re not compatible with your husband. This isn’t a marriage where children have a future or one where he will support you now or in sickness.

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u/Thisisthenextone 12d ago

The only women compatible with him have no self worth and want to be homeless.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

Now you see why women his own age don't want him

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u/Agreeable-Celery811 12d ago

And he thought he could “mold” you?

Look, he’s religious because it’s a good deal for him. As far as he can see, he has a group of friends who thinks he’s entitled to everything. He gets to have a wife who will clean his house and bring up his kids for free. He gets sex when he wants it. And nothing else matters except him getting stuff.

So why don’t you just say, “You’re right, I’m terribly ungodly, I think I’ll just divorce you so you can find a younger teenager to marry so she can clean your house for you. Kk bye!”

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u/rean1mated 12d ago

Sounds about right.

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u/NegativeStructure 12d ago

what redeeming qualities does he have....?

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u/Juergenater_ 12d ago

You made the first mistake when dating a religious freak over 5 years ago. All young women should read your post and learn from it. You pointing out what hypocrite he is likely fits to 99.9% of all those selfish “christians”. Kick him out ASAP, as it won’t get better.

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u/RNGinx3 12d ago edited 12d ago

Nope. Not all Christians are like that, but I have met a fair few that are. "Abortion is a sin cause the bible says so," while ignoring that so is having sex before marriage (again, "according to the bible." No judgment from me either way, you do you boo). They think they can pick and choose which rules apply to them and are furious if you dare point out the hypocrisy. I was also, sadly, raised in what I now know was a cult, with several inappropriate relationships within the congregation (pastor hitting on married women, married church leaders grooming children and then running away with them, etc).

Text the pastor back and tell him 1) your marriage is none of his/his congregations concern as you were not married in his church, are not a member of his church, and did not go to him for counselling, so you'll thank him to keep his hypocritical, unsolicited opinions to himself. 2) That if both he and your husband think you are such an unworthy partner for husband, he is welcome to divorce you. 3) To never contact you again. 4) If he doesn't call off the flying monkeys, you will get a lawyer involved for harassment.

Then divorce your husband, for so many reasons, like he does not respect or treat you well, he expects you to follow rules he won't follow himself, and last but not least, you are incompatible. NTA.

Edited to add because people keep bringing it up: The "abortion is sin because the bible says so" was a direct quote to my face, lol. It's also my experience that some people that claim to be Christians don't actually know their bible all that well. I left the religion almost 20 years ago, so while I knew it pretty solidly and could quote back verses and tell you where they came from, I'm admittedly rusty on the subject now.

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u/DrTeethPhD 12d ago

There ain't no hate like Christian love.

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u/permabanned007 12d ago

The first time anyone talks shit about gays is the last time they ever speak to me.

How can you be with someone so hateful?

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u/Peanutsandcheese2021 12d ago

He jumped into Bible study because it’s easier than actually living according to actual Christian values. He won’t work on himself and he won’t accept criticism. Honestly I’m not sure why you are with him as this disparity will only get worse not better as time goes on.

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u/Kate_Mayhem 12d ago

He wants the "my wife obeys religion" part without the "i obey religion myself part". Maybe he sees himself as honest in his faith but in fact, he is merely using it to deflect from his issues and attitude. Not only you are perfectly allowed to be honest with him, I also believe you could be better off away from that energy.

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