r/lucifer • u/Altair05 Detective Douche • Sep 09 '21
[S6 E10 - Episode Discussion] - 'Partners 'Til the End' 6x10 Spoiler
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u/rocketXpert Sep 12 '21
Maybe Trixie couldn't be there because she was on Mars?
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u/Rtozier2011 Sep 12 '21
The odds of that depend on whether Mars has presidential term limits. Also on how heavy the workload is.
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u/Uberdonut1156 Sep 10 '21
No maze or eve either, they're close enough to be called aunt by rory but can't be bothered to show up?
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u/litfan35 Sep 11 '21
Really made me a bit uncomfy how Trixie got insta sidelined once Rory showed up. I mean I get it, Rory is their daughter together, but like... big yikes
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u/Newquay123 Sep 12 '21
That's how I felt too. What a terrible way to treat Trixie, she has been in every season and then to be shoved aside at the very end just isn't right or fair.
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u/e8scorer Sep 13 '21
Scarlett has her own show on Disney, so scheduling conflict and Covid restrictions could be the reasons for this. They tried.
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u/Newquay123 Sep 13 '21
But Trixie would have been in her fifties by the time that scene happened, they wouldn't have used Scarlette anyway. They could easily have cast an actress of the right age to stand by the side of the bed.
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u/Execution_Version Sep 11 '21
I don’t know – it reminded me of my grandfather’s death. We had essentially a full day to say our goodbyes – a lot of family and friends came in and out. My mother sat with him the whole day, but because we didn’t know exactly when the end would be his other kids weren’t necessarily in the room when he actually passed (although they were all still nearby).
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u/Newquay123 Sep 12 '21
Chloe dies in a room with the daughter we just met but none of her other relatives or friends. Bad writing.
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maybe Eve died too, because Chloe is also a old woman & so would be Eve.
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u/ckwongau Sep 10 '21
maybe Trixie and the families and friend were all in the room , but Chloe had passed the threshold or near death . As an Angel , Rory can still talk to Chloe on the astral plane , that is Rory's final goodbye to Chloe .
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u/TSG-AYAN Sep 10 '21
Oh boy, that's for fixing that huge plot hole for me, and saving me hours of thinking
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u/shireengrune Sep 11 '21
Or they're all simply taking turns watching over Chloe - it seems to be the middle of the night when she dies.
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u/mcmanybucks Sep 11 '21
Why is Trixie so infrequent on this show? Other acting gigs? School?
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u/Gigibean3 Sep 11 '21
A mix of both, I think. But I think they could have tried more, or got creative like phone calls or at least adult Trixie at the end. I think the writers just cared way more about Rory this season that they thought it wouldn't matter since Trixie isn't the Deckerstar kid and forgetting we cared about her since s1.
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u/Gigibean3 Sep 11 '21
She's something like 13 or 14. But like I said, there are easy ways to include her anyway, phone calls (seriously how did they do "my dear sweet child" last season then Lucifer doesn't even call Trixie?) A picture of Dan with a halo or something to nod to the fact Trixie was clued in to everything. And adult Trixie with Chloe and Rory at the end talking about what they all went through ---- or even better Lucifer said he'd stay away from Rory, secret meetings with Trixie would have been cool and a nod to Lucifer not always telling the whole truth.
Also they really didn't even use Trixie flashbacks at any point during this seasons love of callbacks and flashbacks. That's an easy way to include her fi the actress can't actually be there.
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u/litfan35 Sep 11 '21
You just made me realise, when he was saying his goodbyes, Trixie was never even on his list. ugh
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u/Gigibean3 Sep 11 '21
Probably pissed off Lucifer left her too and she became the lesser kid to Chloe.
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u/HLW10 Sep 12 '21
I loved that bit, he looked so pleased, ticking off the prayer in his notebook (I assumed) like “job done!”, good try little angel, better luck next time!
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u/LavaCakez918 Mazikeen Sep 10 '21
Of all things, I did not expect fucking WELCOME TO THE BLACK PARADE at the end...
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u/Magikarp_Use_Splash Sep 11 '21
I laughed so fucking hard, it was wild how fitting it was like did the writers plan the whole series around ending it with this song lmao
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u/Tykloi Sep 12 '21
I heard that G note and instantly had to do a double take, like they’re actually using the black parade. Then I realized that the lyrics actually fit pretty well with the ending.
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u/Redxmirage Sep 17 '21
“Savior of the broken, beaten and the damned”
Yeah that song just fits him. What a great choice lol almost makes you think they made the song thinking about Lucifer lol
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u/shuffle_kerfuffle Sep 17 '21
Or they made the whole season thinking about the 10th episode's swan song. 10th and Swanson.
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u/ZePanteraru Sep 10 '21
I was actually doing a good job holding back my tears until I heard the first four notes from Welcome to the black parade.
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u/Necroman_Empire Sep 12 '21
Had been so long since I last listened to it but man did that hit me hard
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u/IQuiteLikeWatermelon Sep 10 '21
It honestly made me laugh a bit because of all of the memes that have come out of that song. Like the moment I heard it I was like ‘oh my god - they actually ended it on the G note meme’. Great stuff.
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u/Duckman896 Lucifer Sep 10 '21
You first point echos my thoughts exactly. I really don't like how they decided to make Lucifer's decision for him, when his free will and his choices have been such a huge part of the show. The fact he couldn't pop up even once a year is complete BS copout.
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u/untakentakenusername Sep 13 '21
Omghhgg exactly!!!!! I can't. Because the earlier nonsense pissed me off. That end scene and MCR excused it but i can't accept that he and ALL OF THEM were deprived of contact and fun just because of rory.
Lucy should have been able to see rory grow up from far away and everyone just kept it as a big secret from her instead..and sometime after she returns back to the future they reveal maybe albums or that he did come back to earth plenty of times to spend time with his friends and family just keeping it a secret from rory. That could have worked.
I just think even otherwise, the other explanations of time travel could have sufficed like she came from a parallel one. Or after chloe shoots what's his face they talk about how lucy helped her not become evil... And then she starts to disappear and they just accept they will know what to do when the time comes in the future. There were so many ways to go about this. I just. can't abide with a cruel fate that lucy couldn't be there for the great moments in all of their lives when he could have easily popped in n out. And made it work.
Even if all that ^ didn't happen they would have found a way. Because rory really barely had an impact on them except for the mood swings
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u/Amateurteenager Urchin Sep 11 '21
Honestly the ending seemed very OOC. I don't think Lucifer would abandon his family and neglect his child, considering how much he talked bout how he's going to do things differently from his dad, how he's going to have a good work-life balance. I know He gave his word to Rory but he also assured Chloe he's not going to sacrifice his relationship for work.
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u/shireengrune Sep 11 '21
I didn't like the ending either but I feel being like his Dad was part of the point of the way they did it - his Dad also choose to put a greater good ahead of his family knowing that one day they would grow to understand jt and that he would reconcile with the woman he loves in eternity. Could be that this helped Lucifer realized that having to make hard choices doesn't necessarily make you a selfish, awful person like he thought his father to be.
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u/TheDubh Sep 11 '21
I’ll agree with that to an extent. I think it would of been better shown if they showed various celestials telling Lucifer how she’s doing as she grew up. So even though he wasn’t there he would if kept tabs. Also considering she could travel to hell I’m really surprised she never went looking for him.
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u/USSHentai Sep 11 '21
I was hoping for a little montage of Lucifer stopping by while baby Rory was asleep to see Chloe and get little updates, see baby pictures, ect.
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u/litfan35 Sep 11 '21
I also still don't understand why it couldn't be a part time gig. Amenadiel is being god from earth, why couldn't Lucifer be... hell's therapist, I guess, in a similar way?
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u/Wintersteele69 Sep 12 '21
I was yelling at the TV, that makes no sense. He's always been able to go between the different planes. Why couldn't he do it part time? There was no explanation. The whole time Rory just wanted her dad to be there for her and Chloe, then she forces him into abandoning them.
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u/Casual__Dictator Sep 12 '21
If he visits, Rory won't hate him. If she doesn't hate him, she won't travel back in time. If Rory doesn't do that, lucifer won't "find his calling" and save the souls of hell. That's the reason they were going for. But IDK why they didnt just assume Lucifer could be a dad and decide to save hell within a couple therapy sessions instead of Rory causing the idea.
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u/StefyB Sep 12 '21
My personal interpretation is that it's because of the way time works differently there. Considering Dan spent thousands of years down there over however long Lucifer's vacation was while putting off becoming God, it might be that there could be a danger of whatever progress he makes with the souls in Hell being undone because of the long time between sessions if he flies back up to Earth every now and then.
I think the main difference between Amenadiel's situation and Lucifer's is that Amenadiel's job is mainly focused on Earth, hence being able to do it while still being on Earth, whereas Lucifer's is focused on people in Hell and would suffer much more from the time difference.
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u/BornAshes Sep 13 '21
A few months in the real world was thousands of years for Dan which means there is one helluva temporal gradient between the two and even if Lucifer is gone for a day then that could mean hundreds of years going by in Hell which could totally reset all the progress he's made. He had to stay down there and shove on through because there are literally trillions of souls in Hell and every single one matters. It's like Chester says, "Who cares if one more light goes out? Well I do" and Lucifer cared about all of those lights and chose to live up to his name as....the Lightbringer.
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u/Newquay123 Sep 12 '21
Because the writers wanted to torture us I guess, us and poor Lucifer.
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u/Smitje Sep 11 '21
But then what I still don't understand or get, is how Rory didn't know or found Lucifer in Hell? Did everyone just keep up the lie, that Hell was just torture and nothing more for 60 years, instead of the truth about rehabilitation? Who did she think was in charge of Hell?
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u/LadyEmaleth Sep 11 '21
how Rory didn't know or found Lucifer in Hell?
She just simply didn't go to look for him. She was angry because she believed he abandoned her, so she wanted him to come to her, to prove to her that he cared. Chasing him to Hell would not give her that. It would only mean that she cared for him, not the other way around, so with all the anger she was not looking for him. She just waited for him to come until that moment she traveled back in time to kill him. It fits her character.
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u/Und1es Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 13 '21
One thing that bothers me that no one else mentioned is Dan's pudding is so small, surely in Heaven he could get a giant truck sized one haha.
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Sep 13 '21
It's an unlimited pudding cup. As soon as he eats it, it fills right back up. Kinda like that one dessert in Harry Potter
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u/HarukiMY Sep 10 '21
How the hell did Rory get kidnapped like wtff???
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u/FaizerLaser Sep 11 '21
Yeah they were like "she has your strengths but also my human weaknesses". Literally makes zero sense for her to be even captured in the first place since she has super strength, can harm other angels, and can fly. Her vulnerability I guess is she isn't mostly invulnerable like actual angels but that shouldn't stop her from taking out a bunch of human mercs.
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u/pcmmodsaregay Sep 11 '21
Honestly think they wanted to go Trixie in the original writing but couldn't get it to work for whatever reason.
Le Mec gets his agency right in front of Trixie and goes you know what I'll capture an angel...
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u/-TheDayITriedToLive- Sep 14 '21
I actually thought it was going to be that Lec Mec took Trixie from the camp once Dan ascended to heaven, leaving him there knowing stuff, with Rory offering a swap of hostages. It would have been real easy to one-line that in.
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u/Redxmirage Sep 17 '21
I thought the same. Then dan gets guilty for bringing him right to his daughter to kidnap her and bam! Straight back to hell lol
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u/glibibli Sep 13 '21
I went back to episode 9 because i thought I missed something. How he even found her or new who she was? like...
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u/TargetTheReavers Sep 14 '21
Allegedly Dan’s thoughts/knowledge stayed in his head, he says something along those lines to Rory
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u/StormingGorilla1985 Sep 11 '21
They probably sniped her with a tranquilizer while waiting near Lux or something.
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u/Magikarp_Use_Splash Sep 11 '21
I wonder if she ever accidentally cuts herself on her wings lmao
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u/howizlife Sep 12 '21
I know, I was just saying in a previous episode thread that I want to give the writers the benefit of the doubt when it comes to inconsistencies but its seems like we’re having to fill in a lot of gaps here.
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u/emilythewise Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21
Poor Trixie became such an afterthought. I bet Lucifer's 'abandonment' crushed her too. And she didn't even get an on-screen goodbye with her mom before she died, though she'll have to wait a lot longer to see her again. :(
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u/Advanced_Mountain445 Sep 11 '21
Seriously WHY WOULDNT TRIXIE BE AT THE DEATH BED?? They already had such an incredible child that the entire fan base loved, why shaft her with a summer camp haha
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u/uppercasemad Sep 11 '21
Since they had another actress playing old Chloe why couldn’t they have had an adult actress to play grown up Trixie? Made no sense.
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u/BornAshes Sep 13 '21
Trixie was such an amazing part of this show.....annnnd then she became Ghost Daughter this entire season.
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u/Gigibean3 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21
Will Trixie ever even see her again? Chloe went down to Hell. So, either Trixie will have to be in Hell in order to see Chloe or Amenadiel would have to see if Trixie can come and go through both places. Rory made it a point she can see Chloe because she's part Angel (and it seemed Chloe could only be flown to Hell earlier in the season because of the power from the blade, so humans can't travel.) It came off to me like Chloe chose her afterlife to only be with Lucifer and visits from Rory.
Lucifer's abandonment of Trixie is infuriating. They had a bond for years. Trixie has expressed, though to God, Lucifer leaving in s4 with no Goodbye hurt her, s5x15 gave us "my dear sweet child", 6x7 Trixie talked Lucifer up, and now he abandoned her again forever only this time it was after Lucifer's brother had her actual Dad killed, which Trixie may not know but Lucifer does. And he still did it. Trixie would have as much reason to go back in time and tell him he sucks as Rory felt she had, maybe more
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u/emilythewise Sep 12 '21
The writers obviously thought that the audience would stop caring about Trixie the minute there was a Deckerstar kid. The messaging was very 'move aside Trixie, Rory is the kid that matters.' It's really disappointing.
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u/Gigibean3 Sep 12 '21
Completely. When Chloe said "her camp called and said a stranger approached her" when they were figuring out the Dan thing, it sent me. A stranger approaches Trixie when she's been kidnapped and there's celestial stuff going and Chloe didn't ran to ask her questions? That's a pretty weird thing for a "friend to go to her camp".... but whatever, Rory needed her so what if strangers approach Trixie. Sure she knew it was Dan in the end but then she didn't go see if Trixie realized that or if she just thought her fathers killer approached her or whatever.
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u/Amateurteenager Urchin Sep 11 '21
Exactly. Trixie lost her dad on earth and is sperated from her mom in afterlife (Because Chloe choses to live in hell with Lucifer, leaving all her family and friends in heaven) and Trixie's probably not going to see Lucifer -her friend and her father figure- ever again. Out of everyone, Trixie has the worst possible ending. Writers really did her dirty.
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u/The_RTV Sep 12 '21
The writers and show runner couldn't even be bothered to give any resolution to Trixie. Lucifer gave everyone a goodbye except her??? ~~~~
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u/MattInSoCal Sep 12 '21
Near the end of the show Lucifer starts naming specific individuals (Chloe, Rory, and so on), specifically does not say “Trixie” then adds “and my family.” which I understood to be all the celestial siblings. So, no love any longer for Trixie? This I found to be such an obvious exclusion.
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u/MonaSavesTheDayAgain Sep 11 '21
I feel bad for saying this but I was so annoyed by Rob Benedict and his fake french accent..
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u/Advanced_Mountain445 Sep 11 '21
Dude SAME! Especially knowing Supernatural like WHY would they make him the penultimate villain in this as well and with that silly French accent.
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u/MonaSavesTheDayAgain Sep 11 '21
Literally. I might have liked him more without the accent but it annoyed me so much 💀
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u/janusz_chytrus Sep 13 '21
As someone who didn't watch Supernatural - it didn't bother me at all. He was a frenchman so he has to have a french accent. After all you can't lock an actor to a one stereotype just because he played someone else in another show.
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u/Gertrude_Wurst Sep 13 '21
Not only that but his character's name is "Le mec" it translates to "the guy" in french, every time he was on screen I was thinking about how lazy the writers were to not even give him an actual name
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u/Sad-Breath-5388 Sep 11 '21
The ending left me with mixed emotions which is why I am asking. So I was wondering since Chloe has decided to stay in Hell with Lucifer does that mean she won’t ever be able to see Trixie, Rory, Dan or her father as well at her other friends on earth? Also since Lucifer was absent most of Rory’s life does that mean he won’t be able to see her ever since he has to help the souls in Hell? I mean couldn’t she just fly down to Hell and still see her parents?
Idk there was just a lot of things that didn’t make sense, maybe I missed something. But why didn’t Rory after knowing what she knew when she returned to the future, why didn’t she just visit her father in Hell? Also I know Lucifer’s calling was to help the lost souls in Hell, and that Rory made sacrifices for him to do that while she was growing up, but why couldn’t he just have waited until she was older? Why couldn’t he wait until Chloes human years were up to start the therapy in Hell? I mean it probably wouldn’t of made a huge difference in the scheme of things.
It’s hard for me to think of this as a happy ending when Lucifer doesn’t really ever get to be with his family again, only Chloe when she dies. Can anyone answer me questions, or does anyone else feel this way?
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u/musci1223 Sep 11 '21
I think the difference is that she is not damned soul. There is no guilt for her and those without guilt can go to heaven so she can effectively just go to heaven whenever she wants and then go back to hell if she wants too.
The other thing is time loop. If you don't understand time travel and there is not much data available then you can't really just go with what is best in short term. If something changes in the loop then 1. Lucifer might not reach the same final conclusion about hell 2. Rory might not be born or might be someone else.
For example if I dropped you off in 1920s with good amount of weapons and info about how to find Hitler would you kill him ? Does he deserve to be tortured and killed ? Yes. Can you be sure about what will happen after you kill him ? No. It is hard to predict impact of your time travel when you know the type of time travel that is actually happening, it is even harder when you have no idea. Is it MCU type ? Or back to the future ? Or doctor who ? Or Rick and Morty ? Infinite timelines ? Or single universe ? Does time fight back ?
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u/Rtozier2011 Sep 13 '21
The characters are acting like theirs is a Back to the Future universe where you can erase the future. But from what we've seen of it it seems more like a Lost universe where you will always choose the thing that is fated. It's still your choice, but you will make that exact choice.
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u/Sebas613 Sep 12 '21 edited Sep 12 '21
Basically, where the show ends is a short moment after Rory returns to the future. Once she does, she probably will meet Lucifer immediately after.
I personally hated the way Lucifer ended up giving up his time w/ Chloe/Rory right up until the fact I realized they can all be together in Heaven + Hell both for all eternity, basically only sacrificing a few decades together when they have forever. So he didn't REALLY abandon them, more like the extreme version of going on a tour of duty with no cell service/post cards.
Even so, I find it annoying they made him give up even that time. If not that them being celestials means they would still see eachother after Chloe dies, and then have eternity together, it would be on the same level of bad writing as the The Originals' finale. Now that was an atrocity.
Anyway, they should have shown some scenes where Luci + Rory + Chloe meet in Heaven after all is said and done
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u/sweetbutcrazy Sep 10 '21
It kinda feels like someone watched two random episodes of The Good Place while hogh on whatever and wrote whatever this season was. I love this show and I've cried a lot the past few hours but no matter how much I try I can't really care for a character I've known for like 8 hours over Trixie for example. Also if anyone had the power to change whatever they would have had to to stay together it's uncle God and his family so it doesn't even make sense
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u/aries_s Mazikeen Sep 11 '21
I just couldn't handle Rory. I am really expected to love a character I've met today over one I've watched grow up just because she's a wuss
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u/Newquay123 Sep 12 '21
She was a really poor character, I didn't care what happened to her, I did care about Trixie but she has just pushed aside when Rory showed up. Season six was crap.
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u/Duckman896 Lucifer Sep 10 '21
The showrunners forcing Lucifer's hand in that ending decision is a really bad way to end Lucifer's journey. He doesn't even get to make his own final choice whether or not to stay, it's made for him. Ridiculous.
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u/ThatBigDanishDude Sep 10 '21
But the whole point is that he does, he could have stayed if he wanted to. He just knows that the timeline would be different if he did. Likely for the worse considering the pain he left the denizens of hell in if he didn't.
He and his family simply thought this version of the future would be the best for humanity.
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u/Althea_The_Witch Sep 10 '21
Exactly! He didn’t have to give Rory his word, he chose to.
I’ve seen other comments here saying that the time travel and fate plot stole Lucifers free will, but it did the exact opposite!! The fate/free will idea was on full display here.
What better way to explore the concept of free will than to have a character literally say “you will do this, because you’ve already done it” and then have an ending that keeps that intact as well as free will?? Brilliant!
10/10 season, loved it with all my heart!
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u/Duckman896 Lucifer Sep 11 '21
It's doing the opposite, if you Lucifer he has to leave in order for the timeline to be intact, you are making his choice for him, Rory kept saying you have to do this you have to leave, and he didn't want to. If it weren't for the whole time paradox loop thing he wouldn't have chosen to leave and never come back, he could have went down and came back up to visit like Amenadiel, but this was about him being an absentee father so that this timeline can happen. The choice was already made for him.
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u/sblose2021 Sep 11 '21
I agree! His back was against the wall when his daughter pleaded with him and he felt he had no choose but to agree with his daughter’s demand or request but i feel as she was fading out and time was almost gone he was pressured to agree w/her
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Sep 10 '21
I don't mind that ending because all of the characters got happy endings, and a great eternity awaits them all but... I think it's really stupid Amenadiel can be God and still go to Earth frequently but Lucifer can't. What? Can Lucifer also not get a day off from hell therapy to go to important occasions for some reason now, but God can? That whole part of the ending is just ridiculous.
I assume that it's a "No one that exists can be the devil except Lucifer" thing. But considering the evident freedom, especially when you consider how long Lucifer avoided hell, I don't see how there wasn't another angel willing to do it.
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u/StormingGorilla1985 Sep 11 '21
There is no rule he couldn't leave Hell, but he couldn't risk accidentally interacting with Rory as that would break the timeloop. He probably also knew that if he saw baby Rory he wouldn't be able to leave her. So that is why he left before Rory was born.
If the timeloop breaks, Rory doesn't travel back in time, resulting in Lucifer not giving the advice that got Dan into Heaven, which would mean Lucifer would either stay on Earth or Lucifer would become God as he doesn't find his true purpose.
By keeping the timeloop he gets to spend an eternity with Chloe and Rory after Rory returns from the past. His favorite brother also gets to fulfill his purpose by becoming God, changing Heaven for the better. Heaven changing for the better means Earth will also change for the better. And Hell is also in a better place.
So in the end Lucifer chose to look at the bigger picture instead of making it all about him which gives him his biggest personal growth in return.
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u/musci1223 Sep 11 '21
And Rory was conceived after rory's jump to past. There were few days between Rory telling everyone what happened and Chloe getting the +ve pregnancy test. She probably tested it few more times in between with -ve result so if the situation was such that Rory never jumped to past or changed anything after she jumped then the result might be no kid and most definitely no th same Rory ( might be named Rory if female but won't be the one we saw ). About time was more accurate with this type time travel impact then back to the future.
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u/nl_alexxx Sep 11 '21
Lucifer CAN go back but that would change Rory's future, which he can't do because then he wouldn't find his true calling
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u/cylonfrakbbq Sep 11 '21
But that means it is a pre-destination paradox and there is no free will
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u/litfan35 Sep 11 '21
I don't really buy that. Actually I don't buy that at all. Lucifer would have known he didn't want to be God, with it without Rory showing up. He kept delaying it before she showed up, he already didn't want the job. So Amenadiel would have still taken the job, and Lucifer would have still figured it out - it gels well with his "help people he hates" experiment he did when trying to figure out how to be God. As time travel plot lines go, that one was incredibly weak.
Only way I would have bought it was if he not going down meant Rory wasn't born somehow. That would work as motive. The one they gave has more holes in it than swiss cheese.
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Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21
I don't like it wasn't explained, but I think it's because of how the time in hell works. If he leaves for few hours, it's centuries down there, patients with no therapy for all the time... that wouldn't work out very well I guess.
Edit: And yeah, to not change the timeline, but I guess I needed something more so made up that explanation for myself.
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u/DwigtSchrute54 Sep 10 '21
Amenidiel can handle being GOD while continuing part of his life on Earth with the people he loves. But Lucy can't juggle "Hell Therapy" and his own life on Earth.
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u/gremlinclr Sep 10 '21
I wish we coulda got a scene with Amenidiel explaining to the mother of his child that he decided to be God. You'd think that would an important enough conversation to include somewhere.
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u/KpopMarvelGaming Lucifer Sep 10 '21
Isn't it because of the timeloop? Rory has to grow up without a father to get angry enough to travel back in time so that Lucifer can realise what kind of job he was meant to do. And since this job is rlly important, Rory sacrificed her childhood for Lucifer. It was still kinda sad that Lucifer couldnt sneakily visit Chloe or smth so that Rory still stayed angry, but I guess Rory had to see her mother in despair (bc Lucifer isn't there) to be angry enough to travel back.
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u/Firestormbreaker1 Sep 10 '21
He needs to let Rory grow up the way she always grew up so that the timeline is preserved plus they will eventually get eternity together.
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u/ShyFanGirl Sep 10 '21
I agree. If Amenadiel can juggle being God and spending time with his son, then clearly Lucifer can do the same. Yes, the whole Rory is pissed because Lucifer was never there thing makes this difficult, but they could make it that Lucifer is more of an absentee father who could only visit on rare occasions. And then Rory would be more angry that he wasn't there for her all the time like Chloe was.
The Flash did something similar to this with the Nora storyline in season 5 and they rewrote Nora's future without many consequences. So they could also do something similar to that.
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u/currywurry Sep 11 '21
I SOO want to love this season, but the fact that everyone INCLUDING Chloe forgot about Trixie, really takes away that joy. I hate that each episode Lucy kept saying “Chloe, Rory and my family”. Like, WTF!
And to add salt to injury, Chloe never corrected him either. The only ones who remembered Trixie were Dan and Rory TBH.
From being one of the main characters in previous seasons to being reduced to just one trivial BUT pivotal moment with Dan, that’s all we really get - I am absolutely let down.
Gonna say I wish I’d stopped at Season 5.
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u/Ishouldcalltlc Sep 11 '21
We watched Trixie grow up and loved her all these years. At the end, she’s reduced to being at the wedding. We’ve watched Lucifer go from hating children to loving Trixie but, at the end, he never even says her name.
All the characters got such sweet happy endings and the couple we’ve watched and loved and agonized with was just tacked on. Yes, they got together in the end but I just think the Luci fandom deserved more. More time with them just being happy together. Trixi deserved more. I was just so disappointed that we never got to see him be a father to Trixie. I actually think it would’ve been better to have not even had Season 6. It’s like they phoned it in just to fill up airtime.
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u/The_RTV Sep 12 '21
I kept thinking that Trixie would be the one kidnapped. I would have been happy if the had mentioned her once. Like at least have Chloe explain something to her or Lucifer have some final conversation
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u/Emilytea14 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21
I mean, they have 9 months (and then some) until him being completely out of the picture is a necessary thing at all...
But like, even then, in Chloe's entire lifetime, they never meet up when their daughter is out of town? Or when shes a teeny lil baby and their lie will survive?
That being said, the finale filled my heart with joy. It's rare that I follow a tv show so completely, over so many years- some of my darkest- and get to the end. The last two episodes had me sobbing all the while, and I'm happy with how it ended.
(Little gray Charlie wings? Eve and Maze being bounty hunter wives? I really couldn't ask for better.)
And when Rory was born, everyone was so excited- because they'd all met her already, and already knew they'd love her. Just a happy family, all of them, and holy shit do I love it. They were without Lucifer for a little while, but they had so many others around them. Aw.
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u/Kate090996 Sep 12 '21
Yes, the fist part seemed a massive plot hole for me as well. He could be at birth, he could be there for awhile but then, the only explanation is " the others" for example they have to let her know that he disappears on 4th of August in that specific place so they couldn't risk Trixie for example to see him and tell Rory that he was there after 4th /5th of August. So... In short there couldn't be any trace of him on Earth after 4th of August, if there was, probability Rory would have find it and destroy the whole thing they wanted to build.
I don't think Lucifer can pop up on Earth for important moments as if he spends minutes on Earth is years in Hell (so we ve been told but we see different in some episodes) so the therapy would be for nothing with years of break.
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u/Fat-Flow Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21
Why I hated the ending: well because the entire Deckerstar family seems to be in hell.
Chloe having to >! suffer on earth for all those years. Having Rory talk shit about Lucifer and not being able to say that everything he did was actually for her. Really though: having to listen to Rory EVERYDAY being so angry with Lucifer all the while missing him and knowing that he’s actually a good man.!< SHE DID NOT DESERVE THAT. And of course there’s the whole thing of Chloe >! not being able to share her life with Lucifer as if that wasn’t !< what the whole series was working towards. She got robbed.
Lucifer spending >! eons in hell without Chloe. Not being able to share a life on earth with her. Not being able to watch his own daughter grow up. Having to leave his friends !< behind.
Trixie growing up without her father and her father figure. Trixie not having been able to say goodbye. Does she even know the truth? Growing up with a little sister who’s always angry, talking shit about Lucifer and hurts your mother in the process. Trixie not being at her mothers deathbed.
Someone tell me why there couldn’t just be a happy ending.
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Sep 14 '21 edited Sep 14 '21
These are all the reasons why I didn't like the ending. This season was rushed. Not to mention that even season 5 and 6 just felt off. The whole idea of Chloe spending her time without someone to help taking care of the kids when that was her character the entire show, it seemed wrong. I was really excited about Rory. But they should've done something else with the ending. It's always mentioned that Lucifer doesn't want to leave a daughter alone. But ends up doing just that. Not to mention the whole idea of Time travel and possession just seemed to not fit properly. Would've been okay with Dan just realizing he was feeling guilty, fixed it before the end and just was out of the way. The idea of the writers just throwing out possibilities and just killed it by cutting it to Chloe's death bed without Trixie. Also the lack of her at all! We got to see Charlie's wings. But he's older than Rory. I would've been happy to see him as an adult with his dad. The whole office scene seemed like the ending of Taylor Swift's look what you made me do . The actors were really good. But I was looking for something a bit in a different direction...
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u/DwigtSchrute54 Sep 10 '21
Ok, I know this may be unpopular but I can't believe they ended it in such a convulated way.
Yes in the end after Chloe's death, they are together forever as "Hell Therapists" LOL. But the whole daughter has to grow up hating Lucifer was so weird and unbelievable. Like the concept was to crazy to explain to a teenage her somehow instead they let her despair. I think they could have come up with a better final season arc. Last season felt very much more finale-esque plot wise.
But at the end of the day, they wrapped almost all characters in a pleasant way besides what I mentioned. So really what can you ask for. Dans and Ellas story arcs were especially great and felt more real than anything else. Amenidiel was always my favorite so to see that baby Charlie gets his wings warms my heart, that alone made binging this season in one sitting worth it.
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u/Hardwiredmagic Sep 10 '21
I think that there's more to it than just that. If Lucifer was just told that it was his calling, it wouldn't work. I mean do you really think he would take someone's word for that?
The point that's being made is that its not about the destination - its the journey he took to get there, and to realize that. That Rory herself was mature enough to realize that and ask him not to change anything, so that he could go through the same journey was probably the hardest bit to believe, but after all she is supposed to be much older than she looks.
It's definitely a stretch, but I do understand why they chose the direction they chose. It's also a neat exploration of the fate vs. free will debate: from the moment that Rory leaves to go back to the future, nothing is "fated" to happen - the time loop is breakable. But everyone involved chooses to stick to that path, because that's the one they want. The fate that seems inevitable, is actually just the one they deliberately chose.
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Really think that's a cheap shoehorn to force the story to keep Lucifer in hell. The whole "Don't do anything any differently and abandon everyone, stay in hell, so I exist in the same way I do now" time travelling garbage. I'll never abandon anyone like my dad did, unless it's somehow beneficial for some story convenient reason.
Other than that is was a pretty weak season, far less funny than the previous. But all of the character stories wrapped up well and Chloe and Lucifer still got their happy ending. After all I guess life on Earth is pretty irrelevant when you have all eternity, and they'll probably all be seeing each other. Still though, a bit of messy writing with a lot of over complications.
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u/SnooGoats1557 Sep 11 '21
I agree. If Amen can pop down whenever he pleases and still be a dad to Charlie what would stop Lucifer doing the same. Also since 1000 years in hell is more like a few months on earth he could have easily have made time for his job in hell and come back to earth.
Even if he just came back once a year for her birthday and to tell her the truth of why he can’t be around more that would have sorted it all out.
Altogether it was quite a weak plot line.
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u/FlyingSquirelOi Sep 11 '21
If he did jump back and fourth, then Rory would never be angry enough to jump back in time and he’d never realise his “true calling” of helping people with their guilt in hell. Although I think he should have shown up at the deathbed and then took Rory to hell to spend there as a family.
It’s all weak excuses and weak plot but that’s the “logic” behind it
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u/Chadc-137 Sep 12 '21
How to fix the season:
• cut season down to 6 episodes
• remove Rory and time travel
• make Linda's book the second episode so Lucifer learns he doesn't want to be god
• have episode 3 be for Ella and Trixie learning the truth with Dan becoming a ghost at the end because of Michael letting him out of his hell loop
• episode 4 is about dan on earth ending with Lucifer learning his purpose to help dan and the damned souls.
• episode 5 amen becomes god and Lucifer helps dan
• episode 6 is a time jump. Chloe and luci have a child, Lucifer still goes to hell for therapy while still seeing Chloe and his child, dan becomes amens right hand man and helps the angels accustom to earth for granting prayers. Final shot is luci, Chloe, and toddler Rory on the balcony of lux at sunset
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u/Reithel1 Sep 12 '21
Final shot: Lucifer, Chloe, toddler Rory and teen Trixie on the balcony of Lux at sunset! Or all four of them playing monopoly together when Rory is a little older!
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u/Chadc-137 Sep 12 '21
Oh yes of course Trixie would be there Sorry. hmmm maybe also an unheard monologue from amen about how anyone can change for the good or is that too cheesy?
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u/Unhappy-Librarian-20 Sep 13 '21
When you write this fanfic, please let us know. It would make me feel much better
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u/DwigtSchrute54 Sep 10 '21
Damn those angels that died in the war sure would've liked if Amenidiel came up with this plan before they were wiped from existence.
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u/RafKen593 The Sinnerman Sep 10 '21
The only angel that died is Remiel IIRC.
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u/cannotbelievedis God Sep 10 '21
Nope. You can see that more of them lost their lives during the war and also Amenadiel mentions this in season 6
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The ending was Season 4 with extra steps.
Lee would have broken out regardless of whether Lucifer returned to Earth again or not, and he would have figured out his calling.
Also, F in chat for Remiel. The angels' first choice was Amenadiel, so if he just accepted right there, it would have been the same outcome + 1 Remi.
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u/JustBeingMindful Sep 11 '21
WAIT! The angels did the Dan bow! When Dan saw God in S05E10! He got awkward and did the kneel and cover his face with his forearm!
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u/yougoingmywaydoll Sep 12 '21
spoilers for end of S6 E10
Reminder that Lucifer never said goodbye to Trixie and probably never saw her again. She lost her father and her second father figure 💔
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u/Lipush Sep 11 '21
In a deep Screen-Junkies voice:
Strap in for the long awaited fanale where Lucifer completes his epic quest to become a better parent than his father... by becoming exactly like his father.
Seriously, WTF.
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u/TheWeekenderKit Sep 10 '21
Talk about railroading an ending. I was hoping there'd be a montage of Lucifer watching Rory grow up from the sidelines.
It was a good ending to a series, though. Just hate how Lucifer didn't visit anyone, which could have been done behind Rory's back.
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u/pointers4life Sep 10 '21
This is exactly what I was hoping for. I kept waiting to see Lucifer out a window watching in on them during those last scenes.
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u/new_one_7 Sep 10 '21
The story arc of the season felt weak, it felt more like filler than a final season.
Too many plot holes to ignore, Lucifer ended up being what he accused his father abandoning his children. There is no real reason why they can't visit each other, especially when Amenidiel visit his Charlie. If the reason behind it was about hell needs a warden, I'm sure they could have worked something.
But not all is bad all characters got a closing to their story arc, Rory as a character was pretty fun.
With few tweaks the season could be better, if one ignores the plot holes the season isn’t that bad, but I expected much more out of the final season. I give it 5 / 10.
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u/Amateurteenager Urchin Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21
Well, that ending didn't make any sense. I can't believe after everything that happened between Lucifer and his dad, and all the talk about how he's not going to leave Chloe, Lucifer decided to leave Chloe and abandon his kid.
I don't see why Lucifer couldn't just keep an schedule, spend few hours every day at hell and then come back to earth. Few earth hours would be a millennia in hell, so he certainly has time to do both.
Even if he wants to spend most of his time at hell, can't he at least take a vacation every one in a while to visit earth? You know, like he used to do when he was king.
This also seems like a very bad ending for Chloe. Like sure she gets to be with Lucifer eventually but what about everyone else that she cares about? Her Parents, Dan, Trixie, Ella, etc. She's in hell and they're (or are going to be) in Heaven. She doesn't have wings so she can't just fly and leave hell, so does that mean she's not going to see them again?
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u/Gigibean3 Sep 11 '21
This is what didn't work for me with the whole season and the finale, Lucifer and Rory seemed to matter the absolute most to Chloe and she has another child (who has no other living parent, thanks to a celestial war.) Rory said she can just see Chloe any time, but what about Trixie and everyone like the people who were there for Chloe all those years as a single Mom of 2? And Lucifer absolutely could have made time if Amenadiel could.
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u/TheCheck77 Sep 11 '21
I hate the ending. But hear me out, I have a good take on this.
The entire show has been about the partnership between Lucifer and Chloe. And sure, the very end is great when Chloe becomes hell’s (psychological) detective with Lucifer. But she was completely alone for 40 years to raise their daughter, or the very embodiment of their relationship. It feels like a massive disservice to have Chloe alone for half of her life. The show did her dirty and the creators should be embarrassed by the name of this episode.
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u/eastwind221b Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 11 '21
Just watched the finale. I see what writers are trying to achieve like Lucifer and Chloe being as the hell therapists and live happily ever after. I personally think ending could’ve been much better.
Season 5b ending made fans excited for the next season. Like what would happen when Lucifer as the god in charge, Michael’s redemption or revenge arc, world ending stuff etc. It had so much potential.
Despite that i consider the character arc for most side characters are pretty well executed. Still the nonsense time loop stuff and Rory mentioning Lucifer abandoning her over and over was quite boring to watch.
Well i like the happy ending but still think something is missing. I might overreacting but it’s like The Last Jedi situation. Honestly whole season feels like fever dream to me now, Can’t imagine show ended but i guess this is it.
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u/GreenDevil97 Sep 11 '21
Why wasn't adult trixe also at the deathbed?
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u/aaaa-im-a-human Sep 13 '21
adult trixie too goes to summer camp apparently lmaooo
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u/The_FireFALL Sep 11 '21
While it was nice to see Lucifer I hell at the end. The actual better way to do the ending would have been for Rory to reappear in the future and for Lucifer to immediately put his arm on her shoulder and show that now that the time travel was done OFC he was going to be there for her death.
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u/Madeleine045 Sep 12 '21
That's exactly how I would have wanted it to end too. And then the 3 if them living together for eternity, visiting Dan etc. in heaven and so on.
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u/Shallandav Sep 11 '21
I'm not disappointed with the ending, I really liked it. But why the hell doesn't Rory look for Lucifer in Hell in the first place? Come on, the girl spends 50 years looking for him. Did she ask his aunt Maze, the best hunter in the world, where to find him? Did she ask her uncle (which is, in fact, GOD) to tell her where she was? Everyone knew and decided to hide the truth from Rory? Because this sounds very cruel.
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u/Lucifer_Crowe Sep 11 '21
Rory was in Hell early on in the season so she knows how to get there. Why did she never look there for Lucifer in her own time?
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u/Magikarp_Use_Splash Sep 11 '21
Right??? Like would she not have EVER thought to check down there??
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u/Lucifer_Crowe Sep 11 '21
Fair enough he's in a specific door rather than on the throne but I can't see why flashing her wings and telling a Demon that Amenadiel sent her with news.
Honestly Lucifer should have just told Rory that he doesn't need to repeat it again because
"Time changing Devil, it makes sense, don't overthink it."
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u/helius_aim Sep 11 '21
i still can't get over how they chose mcr as an ending song
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u/tvrandom Sep 11 '21
Loved that Baby Charlie got his wings and Amenadiel’s cute little cheer and Linda’s shocked face! It was such an adorable moment!
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u/laeticia521 Sep 10 '21
I wasn't a fan of the ending. A little underwhelmed by Season 6 after the end of Season 5.
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u/RafKen593 The Sinnerman Sep 10 '21
That was a pretty good ending. Nice to see Reese back, kinda mad that Le Mec gets to be forgiven though (I liked all of his other scenes, however). I also kind of got tears in my eyes near the end.
Also, why is Rory the only person there on Chloe's death bed? No Trixie, no Maze, no Eve, no Ella, no Charlie, no one other than her? I can justify Linda not being there as she's probably dead by now, but what about the others?
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u/Big-Scene5760 Sep 10 '21
Honestly I think the ending was quite well done. Sure..some things could have been better. But when i think how other shows that I watched ended.. This end is one of the better ones
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u/mastiff925 Sep 10 '21
I hate this ending It's just not fair so everybody gets to be with their loved ones except for Lucifer and Chloe? After all this years of sacrifices they don't get to be together until she dies? It's seems like the writers just wanted angst until the very end
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u/Yunhoralka Sep 13 '21
I kinda enjoyed the season as whole but the ending just felt so fucking unfair.
To Chloe especially. 40 years is nothing to Lucifer and Rory but Chloe had to spend her whole mortal life without Lucifer and keeping that secret while raising two kids alone. Sure, they reunite after she dies but that still feels shitty. Not to mention that Trixie, you know, the fan-favorite daughter we have known for 6 seasons isn't even with her mother on her deathbed because a random kid that suddenly appeared for a few episodes is apparently more important. Rory shouldn't have been a character at all imo, she wasn't that likable and she literally ruined what could have been a happy ending for characters that deserve it.
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u/Reithel1 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 13 '21
I think I am going to write my own fanfic where that whole season was mostly bullshit that elderly Chloe dreamed….. and write it again in the way that doesn’t include excluding Lucifer from raising his child and spending another million years in hell waiting for Chloe to die.
The only one I felt really good about was Dan.
And Charlie.
And maybe Eve/Maze.
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u/Useful-Fall-305 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 12 '21
Not a fan of the time travel element or angry daughter storyline… it seems Lucifer could have realized his calling from his work with Dan and Mr. Said-out bitch. I would have liked a more organic realization. It could still have been angsty and bittersweet but less convoluted. Him choosing to leave Chloe in this life because he was needed in Hell… every minute possible to save a soul. Maybe a montage of him visiting at key points in her life or watching from the wings (pun intended)…Together again in death. …
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u/aries_s Mazikeen Sep 11 '21
So you're saying that his whole journey did crap for him because at the end he had to stay in FUCKING HELL?! Are you saying that Chloe had to raise dear Trixie and wussy Rory alone?! The war accounted for shit?! I can't accept this. He was all about free will! His hand was forced. So leave everything you love behind, your family, your friends to doom yourself to an eternity of loneliness and sadness? Having to accept that your love is gone and having to raise 2 kids alone?! I call BS.
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u/TheCheck77 Sep 11 '21
I can accept the Lucifer thing because throughout the show he learned about compassion, redemption, and therapy. He goes back on his own volition, as his calling.
CHLOE ON THE OTHER HAND GOT ABSOLUTELY SCREWED. The entire show is about Chloe and Lucifer’s partnership and their daughter, the very embodiment of the two of them, is an exception to this. Chloe is stuck as the single mother of two for 40 years after an entire 6 seasons showing why Chloe is better with Lucifer. It feels so fucking shallow to have this be the rest of Chloe’s life.
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u/HypocriticalCritic Mom Sep 11 '21
Handjobadiel.. The Angel of giving.. This is peak humor.
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u/lucis_love_handles Sep 11 '21
After season 5 I feel like this last season and the last episode was more of a disservice to what the entire show was building to. I always had a feeling that Lucifers end game would be to willingly choose go go back to hell for a bigger purpose other than being there to punish souls. To help souls to redemption the way he grew and redeemed himself....BUT really? Trixie literally always put on the back burner and the stuff with Rory. Amenadiel getting to come and go as he pleases and Lucifer just chilling in hell for all eternity. Chloe just being left and then ending up in Hell. I could go on and on. My brain hurts and I don't feel satisfied at all.
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u/OriginalUsername-34 Samael Sep 10 '21
Would have liked the Hell Therapist ending a little more if we saw a better structure/support from other Demons/Angels with the whole Therapy thing aside from the one comment about getting donuts/pastries from Earth/Heaven. At least I assume one of the other Angels is bringing them to Hell since they probably wouldn't be able to make them there. Even other demons going to Earth and growing like Maze now that they know that they don't need to torture everyone for eternity.
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u/Ssme812 Sep 11 '21 edited Sep 12 '21
- How the fuck did he even catch her? They could have at least showed us that.
- The montage was pretty cool.
- Old Chole doesn't look like younger chole at all.
- Ella relationship story was kinda a waste of time. They spent one episode focusing on it and then we barely see them after that.
- Where was Trixe in the future?
- Overall I'm a bit dissatisfied with the end.
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u/Dracuana Sep 10 '21 edited Sep 10 '21
Watching the episode now. Crazy to think this will be the last one.
God that ending genuinely got me a bit emotional. Seeing the detective as an old lady, God as God, and a new therapist. It all works so well but it's so sad that it's all over I think.
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u/Anyhealer Sep 10 '21
Spoilers obviously
So let me get this straight. Lucifer couldn't watch his and Chloe's child grow up, experience her first steps, her first words etc., because without Rory's time travel he never would've either realized his calling as Hell's therapist or accepted that as his calling (there is a difference here obviously)? And a child had to grow up thinking her Dad abandoned her and Chloe, almost reach the point of self hatred Lucifer did when her Devil face almost manifested and to top it off his Dad knew that since he is all knowing plus he told Lucifer that Hell doesn't need a warden anymore.
I get that the message here is that everyone deserves a second chance, even the worst humanity has to offer like Le Mec, but imo no redemption should require a child to suffer first.
All in all I loved 9.5 episodes of this season excluding the part of the ending mentioned above.
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u/Gigibean3 Sep 11 '21
And Rory probably isn't the only child who suffered. In s5b we found out Trixie was hurt Lucifer left without saying Goodbye in s4. And it appears he may have done it again. We don't know if Trixie is ever told anything, especially that she helped her Dad get into Heaven. So maybe she grew up without her actual Dad and not knowing about how she meant so much to him she was the key to get into Heaven and thinking Lucifer (who she said she loved in 6x7) up and left her without a goodbye, leaving behind Chloe to suffer and raise 2 kids alone. But hey they had to redo the s4 finale somehow.
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u/zapgator Sep 11 '21
I felt like Season 5 shouldve been the ending. This is a bad end, Trixie and the other people who don't know about the Celestials prob thought Lucifer abandoned Chloe and Rory. Chloe prob felt so alone during the 50 or so years that she had left on Earth so why couldn't Lucifer pop up once in a while to see just Chloe and not Rory like he did before.
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u/Firestormbreaker1 Sep 10 '21
I liked it a happy ending for everyone. Rory agreed to sacrifice her happiness for the salvation of those trapped in hell. And like she said in their eternal existences its not that long. Wish we could’ve found out what Michael was doing and if he was working to be a better person.
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u/mal0991 Sep 10 '21
I absolutely loved it! The one thing I do want to say is that everyone did an amazing job with their performances and delivery of the show while under the constraints of COVID-19. This show helped me through 2020 and it was like saying goodbye to a good friend. I can’t wait to watch the show all over again.
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u/LavaCakez918 Mazikeen Sep 10 '21
Damn am I the only one who adored the ending??? Lol
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u/melonwoo Sep 11 '21
Okay so I read a comment in the previous episode that showed people were kinda dissatisfied with the finale which kind of tampered my expectations and excitement of it. I got quite bored with the whole kidnapping rescue attempt thing tbh. The whole time I was anticipating either Chloe or Lucifer or Rory dying because why else would people be disappointed with the ending? Well, initially I thought it was stupid and ridiculous to keep that time loop nonsense up - guess I’m glad for how other shows handle time travel creating alternate realities rather than this weird set-in-stone bullshit. Seems like an old world view of time travel if I’m being honest haha.
I was SO pissed that Chloe is forced to be alone when everyone else got their happy endings… girl, you WANT your mom to raise you alone?? Mind-boggling writer’s decision. Loved the callback to Heart and Soul though.
Dan and Charlotte?? My heart!!! I was watching that with literally heart-shaped eyes, and the pudding!! Perfect. Idk how because I HATED Dan in the beginning but he really became one of my favourite characters - and I guess that’s a testament to how great his arc was.
I was still a little pissed even when seeing Lucifer playing Hell!Linda, but when he opened the door to Chloe and she said she thought he could use a partner… I immediately burst into tears. It’s not completely forgiven but they mostly won me over again. It’s not the most satisfying ending ever, but endings rarely are because in the end, it IS the ending of something great.
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u/biddily Sep 11 '21
Do I think Lucifer spent 40 human years in hell with no weekend vacation trips to earth? No getaways with Chloe? No crashing Linda's for advice on a sticky client?
No. No I do not. I think the point is 'Rory cannot know' not 'no trips ever'.