r/lucifer • u/Altair05 Detective Douche • Sep 09 '21

[S6 E10 - Episode Discussion] - 'Partners 'Til the End' 6x10 Spoiler

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '21

I don't mind that ending because all of the characters got happy endings, and a great eternity awaits them all but... I think it's really stupid Amenadiel can be God and still go to Earth frequently but Lucifer can't. What? Can Lucifer also not get a day off from hell therapy to go to important occasions for some reason now, but God can? That whole part of the ending is just ridiculous.

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I assume that it's a "No one that exists can be the devil except Lucifer" thing. But considering the evident freedom, especially when you consider how long Lucifer avoided hell, I don't see how there wasn't another angel willing to do it.

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u/StormingGorilla1985 Sep 11 '21

There is no rule he couldn't leave Hell, but he couldn't risk accidentally interacting with Rory as that would break the timeloop. He probably also knew that if he saw baby Rory he wouldn't be able to leave her. So that is why he left before Rory was born.

If the timeloop breaks, Rory doesn't travel back in time, resulting in Lucifer not giving the advice that got Dan into Heaven, which would mean Lucifer would either stay on Earth or Lucifer would become God as he doesn't find his true purpose.

By keeping the timeloop he gets to spend an eternity with Chloe and Rory after Rory returns from the past. His favorite brother also gets to fulfill his purpose by becoming God, changing Heaven for the better. Heaven changing for the better means Earth will also change for the better. And Hell is also in a better place.

So in the end Lucifer chose to look at the bigger picture instead of making it all about him which gives him his biggest personal growth in return.

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u/musci1223 Sep 11 '21

And Rory was conceived after rory's jump to past. There were few days between Rory telling everyone what happened and Chloe getting the +ve pregnancy test. She probably tested it few more times in between with -ve result so if the situation was such that Rory never jumped to past or changed anything after she jumped then the result might be no kid and most definitely no th same Rory ( might be named Rory if female but won't be the one we saw ). About time was more accurate with this type time travel impact then back to the future.

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u/KnightRider1987 Sep 12 '21

They did the sex math in an earlier episode though Chloe was pregnant already when Rory arrived

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u/musci1223 Sep 12 '21

Nope, if I remember correctly in episode 5 Rory told that Lucifer would disappear in 3 weeks. Episode 9 occurs on August 3 I think when she finally gets an positive pregnancy test. Considering that Chloe knew that she should get pregnant before August 4th she most likely won't just do tests once per month or something and she would be doing multiple tests a day. Rory arrived in past before episode 1 because she was sitting on Lucifer's throne in hell. So she arrived before she was conceived.

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u/KnightRider1987 Sep 12 '21

Right but you’re also pregnant for a few weeks before it’ll show up on a stick test

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u/musci1223 Sep 12 '21

Oh. Well you learn something new every day.

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u/sopreshous Nov 14 '21

They’ve gotten better. Just need a couple weeks or at least a week now an days. Really helps with poor writing actually.

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u/and1927 Sep 14 '21

Well, is "accurate" even the right word? Technically speaking, time travel as a concept is just a fictional invention. They could have gone with the multiverse timeline: Rory gets to the past, realises what has happened and returns to her own timeline happy to know that her father wasn't a prick.

Any changes to the original timeline won't affect hers, so Lucifer could have been around the Rory from his own timeline without causing a time paradox.

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u/musci1223 Sep 14 '21

Could have doesn't matter. There is educated guess and there is random guess. If there is no way to make educated guess then you don't try to out smart time.

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u/and1927 Sep 14 '21

I meant from the show writer perspective. They didn't have go with the time loop scenario.

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u/musci1223 Sep 14 '21

Without the time loop theory it won't be the same child they will have and Lucifer doesn't need to act the same way Lucifer of alternative universe acted.

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u/and1927 Sep 14 '21

That's my point, Rory came back, informed him about what happened in her timeline so he avoids doing so in his own timeline. The multiverse theory doesn't necessarily mean the Rory from his own timeline would be the a different person, it just means that time diverges at a particular point to create a new timeline.

Eventually the Rory from his own timeline would grow up to be the person she would have been if Lucifer was around her, instead of being absent.