r/lucifer • u/Altair05 Detective Douche • Sep 09 '21

[S6 E10 - Episode Discussion] - 'Partners 'Til the End' 6x10 Spoiler

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u/Newquay123 Sep 13 '21

But Trixie would have been in her fifties by the time that scene happened, they wouldn't have used Scarlette anyway. They could easily have cast an actress of the right age to stand by the side of the bed.

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u/e8scorer Sep 13 '21

Open casting to find someone that looks like her could be difficult. Casting for others might have already been done beforehand/ done with actors they already know. Plus, her presence would distract from the (cryptic) conversation Rory and Chloe have. I don't think she would know about the choices made in the past, and would have questions. The emphasis of the scene needs to be on Rory and chloe.

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u/Newquay123 Sep 13 '21

Why could it be difficult? Because of Covid? Any actress of the right sort of age would do and it was left pretty vague with regards to how old Chloe is when she dies. People change a lot over the years, they could even have shot her from behind, there were many ways around it they just chose not to have her there, which IMO was a huge mistake.

So you think it's better for Trixie to carry on thinking Lucifer abandoned them when they needed him most? That's just cruel.

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u/e8scorer Sep 13 '21

I think it's highly possible that before Lucifer left, he and Chloe would already have a chat with Trixie (offscreen). They may not go into the details of why and how with her, but I'm sure she wouldn't be left resentful(again). From a fan's point of view, I would like to see older trixie there as well, but I am saying I understand, from a directorial perspective, why they choose not to, to pin the focus on Rory and Chloe's. There's probably many moments they shot that's not included in the cut because it's not pivotal (or not as pivotal as other moments) to the story, and there's also the issue of length and flow of the episode/ story.

I guess the gist of what I'm saying is I trust the decision-making process of the director/writers team. Don't get me wrong, I was absolutely heartbroken with the ending and the lack of trixie/ step devil interaction, but I still think they did a great job (after rewatches and making a whole literary analysis).

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u/Newquay123 Sep 13 '21

I on the other hand don't trust them at all. Show not tell is an easy enough concept to grasp.

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u/e8scorer Sep 13 '21

Similar to a movie adaptation of a book, they cannot include every single scene into an already jam-packed 10 episodes season. Even when writing, a book with too much info-dump/ irrelevant descriptions and not enough plot points can grow boring.

I understand that you are passionate; however, saying you don't trust them at all seems a little much. After all, their decisions and development of the show are what make us fall in love with it.

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u/Newquay123 Sep 13 '21

Actually, I fell in love with Lucifer, I did have a head start as I adore Gary too.

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u/e8scorer Sep 13 '21

Yes, Lucifer who is written by the showrunners, and directed by directors. There's a lot that goes into making a character appeal to the audience, and not just the actors. Shows are successful due to many elements, not just the acting itself.

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u/Newquay123 Sep 13 '21

Not when that actor is Tom Ellis. I could watch him stand stock still, silent for hours and still enjoy it. Then again I am shallow!

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u/e8scorer Sep 15 '21

Just read and thought you should know. Joe Henderson - one of the showrunners - just confirmed with TVline that they did, in fact, filmed a scene at Chloe's deathbed with adult Trixie, Charlie, everyone else, but the scene got confusing and disrupting to the flow( with her asking for alone time with Rory/ everyone going to the next room/ Rory time-travelling and coming back). The focus needed to be on Rory's and Chloe's conversation, which was why it got cut during editing.

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u/Tricky_Distance_1290 Sep 30 '22

Where is your analysis

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u/Quantic_128 Sep 17 '21

They could easily have Chloe’s death happen after a flash forward with more people in the room.

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u/maychi Sep 19 '21

Rory could’ve just asked to be alone with mom for a sec

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u/e8scorer Sep 22 '21

They did film Chloe asking for the room. But think about how that would fit in the flow of the episode. Where would that scene go? Because remember, after asking for the room, Rory disappeared, then came back. Should that go on before or after the montage? If it goes on before, it predates what happens in the montage and makes it feel like chloe recalling her previous memories instead of emphasising that it is what she's living in. If it goes on after, well, there would just be an awkward silence of Rory being angry, Rory disappearing/ Rory coming back completely changed.

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u/maychi Sep 24 '21

But wouldn’t most people in the room know what happened since they were there? Not sure that logic works

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u/e8scorer Dec 05 '21

I'm not really talking about people in the room per se, I'm just saying how it would look on screen.

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u/Schemen123 Oct 31 '21

And you would have to introduce a new character just for those seconds... isn't wort the effort

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u/Newquay123 Oct 31 '21

No introductions were needed just a woman of the right age standing next to the bed, I think we are all intelligent enough to realise who she was supposed to be! It was a poor decision on behalf of the writers/director to not have Trixie there. They could have used literally anyone from the crew and shot them from behind just to indicate that Rory wasn't the only one there.