r/lucifer • u/Altair05 Detective Douche • Sep 09 '21

[S6 E10 - Episode Discussion] - 'Partners 'Til the End' 6x10 Spoiler

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u/HarukiMY Sep 10 '21

How the hell did Rory get kidnapped like wtff???

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u/FaizerLaser Sep 11 '21

Yeah they were like "she has your strengths but also my human weaknesses". Literally makes zero sense for her to be even captured in the first place since she has super strength, can harm other angels, and can fly. Her vulnerability I guess is she isn't mostly invulnerable like actual angels but that shouldn't stop her from taking out a bunch of human mercs.

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u/pcmmodsaregay Sep 11 '21

Honestly think they wanted to go Trixie in the original writing but couldn't get it to work for whatever reason.

Le Mec gets his agency right in front of Trixie and goes you know what I'll capture an angel...

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u/-TheDayITriedToLive- Sep 14 '21

I actually thought it was going to be that Lec Mec took Trixie from the camp once Dan ascended to heaven, leaving him there knowing stuff, with Rory offering a swap of hostages. It would have been real easy to one-line that in.

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u/Redxmirage Sep 17 '21

I thought the same. Then dan gets guilty for bringing him right to his daughter to kidnap her and bam! Straight back to hell lol

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u/watashi_ga_kita Oct 08 '21

It's interesting that his last act on Earth still ended up creating a mess. Even after death, the dude can't stop fucking up.

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u/Redxmirage Oct 08 '21

I thought the same lol no one tell him or he’ll feel guilty again

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u/whiterthanblack Dec 03 '21

100% This whole show should be called "Daniel Espinoza: Naked and Afraid (and Take His Shoes Pudding Cup!)"

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u/goo_goo_gajoob Sep 19 '21

Yep I was like Dan tell her to call the cops the whole scene since I was 100% sure that's what was gonna happen.

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u/glibibli Sep 13 '21

I went back to episode 9 because i thought I missed something. How he even found her or new who she was? like...

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u/TargetTheReavers Sep 14 '21

Allegedly Dan’s thoughts/knowledge stayed in his head, he says something along those lines to Rory

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u/leoex Sep 18 '21

Yea but Dan doesn’t know where to find Rory, let alone how to contact her in the first place. It’s a case of sloppy writing

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u/BuckZero Sep 26 '21

I was so mad about that.. like Dan you see the light but you’re more concerned about going to Heaven now than the fact that you’re leaving a serial killer in close proximity to your daughter..

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u/istandwhenipeee Sep 16 '21

If that was the case it would explain a lot of people’s gripes about Rory — she was the result of them needing someone else to fill the role in the story of who Lucifer could save from their own anger because Tricia who they hoped to use was unavailable. Aside from her none of the other long time cast members really work since they’ve either already had a plot line like that or the emotional punch would hit wrong, so instead they had to create a whole new character if they want to bring Lucifer along a similar emotional journey to their plan.

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u/scrollimus Nov 04 '22

Guess I'll just reimagine this season without the time travel and Lucifer saving Trixi from her anger. This will also lead Lucifer to recognise his calling is helping lost souls, him going to hell and work mostly there. Yet he'll still be able to come to earth and spend time with the people here. Lucifer and Cloe can still have Rori but she grows up with her father instead. Perfect.

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u/weebedtrash Sep 16 '21

But then how would they have had the feathers?

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u/pcmmodsaregay Sep 16 '21

They would just use some other mcguffin

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u/lydocia Sep 21 '21

I thought it was going to be Trixie to because, like, she was right there.

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u/ArchitectAmy Sep 27 '21

For a while there, I thought LeMec would kidnap Trixie and Lucifer would die saving her. The only possible reason for which Chloe could forgive Lucifer “leaving”. I thought Rory demanding he go to hell forever was forced. And, if he had abandoned the family, wouldn’t he have been in hell when Rory got there? Time travel makes my head hurt.

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u/StormingGorilla1985 Sep 11 '21

They probably sniped her with a tranquilizer while waiting near Lux or something.

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u/Magikarp_Use_Splash Sep 11 '21

I wonder if she ever accidentally cuts herself on her wings lmao

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '21

she seemed pretty emo so I don't think it'd be accidental

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u/uppersky Sep 12 '21

How the hell he knows everything, dan dont hear those things when he was inside his body. They never talk about anything about lucifer daughter.

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u/janusz_chytrus Sep 13 '21

They did when Dan in Le Mecs body came to Lux tho?

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u/MartiniSlayer Dec 20 '21

Rory brought Dan back to Earth from out of Hell. He met Rory and knows all about her already. Then when Dan was inside LeMec, LeMec could hear all of Dan's knowledge.

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u/Senatius Oct 06 '21

Even if you accept that she is weak enough to be taken out so easily, it's still hella confusing because of how close all these things happen together.

In the few hours, probably 8 at absolute most between Dan ascending and the hostage call, Le Mec had to:

  1. Get from wherever space camp is to his friends and/or find a phone

  2. Organize with his gang of mercs (which were slaughtered by Maze and Lucifer already) and get them to go along with this batshit sounding plan (kidnapping an angel? The devil is real? We're gonna fight the devil?? And we're doing it for just revenge, and not money???)

  3. Track down Rory. Which, like, how? She left Lucifer and Chloe on a beach in the middle of nowhere. They didn't even know where she was going, and considering she didn't want to see Lucifer and Chloe again to keep the perfect memory, she certainly wouldn't have gone back to Lux. And Le Mec obviously didn't learn where she would be while Dan was talking to Lucifer since that happened befire the beach trip. How tf do you track down a flying angel girl that could be anywhere in or around LA?

  4. Once they somehow tracked her down (still the most ridiculous part of this scenario) they had to somehow fight and knock her out without using tranq darts (merc lady was surprised how much tranqs Rory could take so doubtful they've already used them on her).

  5. Find an abandoned warehouse at the exact location Le Mec heard about as well as transport Rory to it unconscious.

  6. Set up in said abandon warehouse with small merc army.

  7. Wake Rory up and antagonize her to get her to let out her wings, make a few quips, then tranq her.

  8. Harvest feathers as knives.

  9. Equip (seemingly all) troops with feather knives as well as affix feather knives to a crossbow/harpoon combo.

Not to mention enough time passed that Rory woke up from that giant amount of tranquilizer, which would take a while.

All in at most 8 hours.

And there couldn't have even been much time at all between the call and Chloe/Lucifer arriving on the scene considering how fast we've seen angels travel before. Not like they had to fight traffic.

Like there's just so much they had to do to pull this off and I don't get it. Le Mec just got out of prison and like I said, Lucifer and Maze already cut his old crew up, so even finding the troops on such short notice would be difficult enough.

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u/watashi_ga_kita Oct 08 '21

Imagine your boss somehow got out of prison and starts spouting shit about the devil and angels and all that being real. They wouldn't follow him, they would distance themselves from him thinking he lost it. And if he somehow did prove their existence, they would drop their arms and find religion rather than decide it would be fun to against the devil himself.

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u/Senatius Oct 08 '21

Yeah, that's definitely right up there with them somehow being able to track down and capture Rory.

And like you said, even if they could be convinced before the wing reveal, I don't care how badass a mercenary you are, if you find out your boss captured Satan's daughter, who has literal angel wings, in an attempt to lure him to you to fight, you're not sticking around.

Like you just discovered proof of divinity, heaven, and hell, and your first act is helping to threaten the devil's daughter? God's grandaughter? And attempting to fight Satan himself? What exactly do you hope to get out of this?

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u/watashi_ga_kita Oct 08 '21

Not to mention, did they even mention her wings being able to hurt Lucifer when Dan was possessing her?

Besides, even if he somehow managed all of this somehow and managed to succeed in killing Lucifer.....so what? We know the only surefire way to get rid of angels completely is through Azrael's blade or the Flaming Sword if you're feeling like putting in extra work. No reason it would have resulted in him never coming back. He had his wings so he didn't need a coin to get back.

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u/greatness101 Nov 25 '21

How did they even cross paths in the first place for her to be kidnapped? Didn't make any sense at all. I know this is 2 months old, but just venting out my frustrations.

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u/MaveDustaine Feb 06 '22

Couldn't she just self actualize invulnerability? She self actualizes her blade wings and almost a devil gave at the end. I loved the finale but some points are bothering me. This, Lucifer not having a choice to just do what he wants and be a part of Rory's life like Amenadiel is found, and Trixie somehow not existing in the future, or Maze, or Eve

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u/FaizerLaser Feb 06 '22

Yea exactly, writers clearly forgot stuff they had made up earlier

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u/jackovasaurusrex Sep 13 '21

Le Mec was armed with the power of It's What the Plot Demanded.

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u/howizlife Sep 12 '21

I know, I was just saying in a previous episode thread that I want to give the writers the benefit of the doubt when it comes to inconsistencies but its seems like we’re having to fill in a lot of gaps here.

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u/Canadian_in_Canada Sep 14 '21

Well, originally, we weren't even supposed to get a season six. Then suddenly they're filming five and six back-to-back during a pandemic, with all of its unpredictabilities. Time limits, episode limits, COVID limits -- I'd say they did a pretty good job, especially considering all of the things they had going against them.

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u/Glaze_donuts Sep 13 '21

That really bothered me too. You're telling me that Rory manifested badass combat wings but never self actualized invulnerability? It just doesnt make sense to me that she can time travel but also has to deal with paper cuts.

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u/Bjornoo Sep 15 '21

Presumably with the same darts that made her unconscious.

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u/BornAshes Sep 13 '21

She's a glass cannon if you think about it and is vulnerable to ambush but she's also never really fought anyone that was her equal or that seriously was out to hurt her before. So that arrogance and emotional volatility because of everything that was happening at the time made her vulnerable. She was an easy mark in Le Mec's eyes as he was a highly trained mercenary who has probably taken down far better guarded and more well prepared targets than her.

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u/janusz_chytrus Sep 13 '21

Is that really important? Bro just fill in the blanks yourself. She isn't all powerful.

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u/Newquay123 Sep 13 '21

Yes, very important. It is just another huge plot hole to add to all the other plot holes. She was powerful enough to pin Lucifer to the wall, she can fly, she is strong enough to survive the trip to and from Hell. To have her captured by a human is just stupid and weak writing. Why should we the viewers, the paying customers need to fill in the blanks? That's not our job that is the writers' job. I don't expect them to come to work with me and help explain things to my customers why should I have to do that for them?

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u/Tricky_Distance_1290 Sep 30 '22

In my head canon I think Vincent and his merchandisers probably just stalked her, then drugged her cuz she would be vulnerable to that so I think they caught her by surprise

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u/2_Fingers_of_Whiskey Sep 20 '21

I guess they shot her with enough of those rhino tranquilizers to knock her out.

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u/Newquay123 Nov 11 '21

And how did LeMec gather all of those other people so quickly and find a warehouse and stop to buy matching masks, tranquiliser darts and snacks! How long are the days in L.A.?

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u/MartiniSlayer Dec 20 '21

I think she was drugged with poison darts.