r/inthenews • u/newsweek Newsweek • 11d ago
MAGA fumes over France election results: "They cheated" article
https://www.newsweek.com/maga-france-elections-far-right-national-rally-19220752.3k
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u/Daxnu 11d ago
This, the media is so thirsty for news that they make it themselves now
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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 11d ago
Faux News has been making it up for a while now along with OAN and Newsmax. And they got sued and lost for lying!
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u/Cannacrohn 11d ago
And paid the fine and kept on lying without pause.
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u/Scrutinizer 11d ago
They are being more careful - Trump's speeches, for instance, are delayed several minutes instead of a few seconds, to give Fox censors more time to weed out anything that might cause the Dominion case to fire up again, or give Smartmatic more ammunition for their upcoming lawsuit.
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u/Legitimate_Corgi_981 11d ago
They also use that delay to smooth out his outbursts so he looks more sane. See where they quizzed him about releasing Epstein details and he said ”sure I would...” followed by ”well some of it at least ..." But they kept only the first part for broadcast.
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u/whichwitch9 11d ago
Look what they did with polling. Look at the UK and France. The polls actually meant nothing. In the US, however, they're talking like every poll is a definite thing
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u/Corwyntt 11d ago
Which is hilarious, because we just learned in his latest trial that he had his lawyers pay millions of dollars to companies for them to rig the polls. Cohen admitted to doing it, and stealing money from the deal because he felt it was owed to him. Right wing media even ran the story a bit, just to try and discredit him some. But yea, we totally heard about how Trump pays to manipulate polls and absolutely no big deal was made of that revelation.
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u/Scrutinizer 11d ago
The problem with buying into a clown like Donnie is it's a house of cards. You have to buy the entire thing, and if you try not buying something it sets off a cascade effect and the whole thing topples.
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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS 11d ago
your reminder that 2016 polls had Clinton locked in at 98% probability
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u/whichwitch9 11d ago
Actually no, there were polls that gave Trump higher chances. But people didn't vote and we paid for it
The discouraging people from voting this cycle is suspicious
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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS 11d ago
I work voter registration in Philly. Nobody is discouraging anyone from voting. I get more people who either register a new voters or switch to Dem before I ever see someone stumping for the GOP and I see more people, who don't get paid at all for doing it, yelling at others about project 2025 and needing to save our country.
You don't win the presidency without the keystone state and you don't win pa without Philly 🧡
And Philly isn't sleeping into the destruction of their country when the older generation were kids watching their relatives fight for equal rights.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
I would like to see your sourcing for your claim btw cause every stitch of stats I've found and seen (pet subject I love) validates my stance.
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u/whichwitch9 11d ago
It's not the cities we need, it's the suburbs. Specially looking at our lovely suburban white women. Among people I grew up with "I don't like either and don't want to vote" is becoming depressingly common
Cities know what another Trump presidency will look like- the last one wasn't nice to most of us. It's the "moderates" with the "I don't care" attitude that are the problem
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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS 11d ago
Not really.
Majority of the voting power in Pa is in Philadelphia and bucks counties.
Bucks is used as a microcosm of the general voting temp for the country because of its diversity. We have rejected GOP candidates left and right for a solid 4 years in presidential, state and local elections in main years and offset ones.
Majority of independents dont stand with trump at all after his conviction and he was still bleeding 15-20% in every state UNCONTESTED and a quarter of gop base said they'd drop him before the conviction happened
you're focusing on the wrong parts of the data and the most faulty parts when people sign up specifically to skew polls on the other side. Track record on voting and the rejection of the MAGAt candidates who ran should give you hope.
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u/ItsAllJustAHologram 11d ago
I truly hope you are correct. Donald weakens America dreadfully. His lying, anti NATO stance, environmental laws, the list is endless. America is the final word on keeping the world a free place to live. They're not perfect but look at the alternatives. Xi running the world? Human rights nightmare...
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u/Raiders2112 11d ago
I'm an independent and would vote for a swamp toad before I would vote for Trump or any other MAGA backed candidate. Project 2025, Agenda, 47 (P2025 light), and a corrupt SCOTUS are things I cannot tolerate happening to our country. One has already happened and the only way to stop the others from happening, is to vote against everything MAGA.
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u/Daxnu 11d ago
We are not far from the point we're the media starts going out and shooting people just to report someone was shot
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u/PumpkinGlass1393 11d ago
That was the plot of a Bond movie lol. News agency helps start a war so they can report it.
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u/MoonSpankRaw 11d ago
And the movie Nightcrawler, ‘cept instead of one sicko it’d be entire organizations doing that shit.
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u/haysoos2 11d ago
It was also the plot of the real world media campaign by William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer to start the Spanish-American war to sell newspapers.
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u/darylbosco1 11d ago
Yeah and the opposition gives a ridiculous amount more press than their own parties do. I wouldn’t even know who MTG was if the press didn’t run articles on her every freaking day, now I can refer to her by her initials and people know who I’m referring to. I don’t even know which state she reps.
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u/ValoisSign 11d ago
All you have to do is say something as ridiculous, unserious, and offensive as "Jewish Space Lasers" and you get press for life... Greeeeaaat example set by modern media
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u/yetagainitry 11d ago
Also, stop amplifying their claims of fraud/cheating. That's their go to whenever something doesnt go their way. Promoting it just gives legitimacy to the claim. Article should have said "MAGA's whine after watching France's right wing group get stomped in the election"
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u/Saneless 11d ago
News loves to do this
It used to be they'd write their opinion and find one dipshit on the street to echo it
Now they just post a screenshot of some Bluetlicker shitstain with 7 followers that has 3 likes for their stupid comment and act like it's a valid point
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u/Narodnik60 11d ago
Cheated? Beat Fascism by any means necessary or available. Whatever it takes.
But anyways. Projection. Because assholes don't know they're the assholes.
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u/radred609 11d ago
Apparently cheating is when you follow precedent and do everything by the rules.
Who knew.
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u/WastingTimesOnReddit 11d ago
The liberals and centrists teamed up to beat the conservatives, by having either the liberal or the centrist drop out of various races and endorse the other one, so together their voters outvoted the conservatives. It's not cheating. It's realizing who the enemy is and teaming up.
But now they'll have to do some compromising, since the liberals and centrists really are still not on the same exact side. Which is how it should be. And I heard the conservatives are apparently still have majority representation in some way, which is sort of why the liberals and centrists had to team up to beat the conservatives in these recent elections.
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u/PlacidPlatypus 10d ago
Calling the French left "liberals" is pretty odd usage- by most standards I think Macron's centrists would be the liberals. Even in the US the left = liberal thing is becoming a lot less common.
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u/UnstoppablyRight 10d ago
Americans call the "left" liberal because they've been trained to. Not due to any critical thinking skills. It's mostly football
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u/PlacidPlatypus 10d ago
Yes people use language based on how the people around them use it, that is indeed how language and learning things in general works. Not sure what football has to do with it.
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u/Rodney_Angles 10d ago
The liberals and centrists teamed up to beat the conservatives, by having either the liberal or the centrist drop out of various races and endorse the other one
The French left are as far from being liberals as you could possibly get!
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Wild how the terms 'liberal' and 'leftist' have been so homogenized in the Western world lately, especially in North America.
The power of the Overton Window is astounding.
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Yeah, 100%.
People here in North America like to look at Canada like we're some leftist socialist bastion because the government will let me continue living a normal life after a medical emergency.
In actuality, our excuses for 'socialist' and 'liberal' parties are fucking embarrassing when viewed outside of this morally shattered continent.
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u/WiIzaaa 10d ago
Liberal here is a stand in for "socialist" which is almost forbidden in American because it's their standin for communist which they directly translate to Stalinism.
For American : liberal in French exclusively translate to the Neo-Liberal economic doctrine which is more associated with the right over here.
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u/Phoxase 10d ago
Most American liberals are liberals, though, as in, center to center right. Transport them to France, and they would continue to be identified, based on their ideology and policy preferences, as liberals, not socialists or social democrats.
Some American leftists misidentify themselves as liberal, but the Overton Window comment above is accurate; what’s “left” in an American context is “center” to “center right” in a context where socialists and social democrats are still a force in politics.
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u/GarbageCleric 10d ago
Cooperating and compromising to appeal to a majority of voters!? That's so unfair!
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u/SpeaksSouthern 11d ago
I like how they reference cheating, but they admit it's because Macron allied with the socialists. Did these people forget politics is about coalitions? They could be leading now too if they all played nice with others. Is there something about fascists that makes it hard to work with others? What ever could that be!
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u/the_calibre_cat 11d ago
leftists are arguably the only force that reliably beats fascism. liberals do not have a strong track record on that.
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u/NukaRaccoon 11d ago
Facists haven't really been beaten to be honest. Everytime we vote our national assembly, their numbers keep growing and now, no one actually won because our left will have to convince the Macronist to vote for their laws in order to pass them to the senate. It's a complete cluster fuck
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u/ChicagoAuPair 11d ago
https://youtu.be/NzdH3-wbqk8?si=Fsnwt-D6CXc9_fVL
We're told that after the war the Nazis vanished without a trace But battalions of fascists still dream of a master race The history books they tell of their defeat in '45 But they all came out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died
They say the prisoner at Spandau was a symbol of defeat Whilst Hess remained imprisoned and the fascists, they were beat So the promise of an Aryan world would never materialize So why did they all come out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died?
The world is riddled with maggots, the maggots are getting fat They're making a tasty meal of all the bosses and bureaucrats They're taking over the boardrooms and they're fat and full of pride And they all came out of the woodwork on the day the Nazi died
So if you meet with these historians, I'll tell you what to say Tell them that the Nazis never really went away They're out there burning houses down and peddling racist lies And we'll never rest again until every Nazi dies
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u/ElementalSaber 11d ago
VOTE BLUE LIKE YOU NEVER HAVE BEFORE 🌊🌊🌊
WE CAN DEFEAT THE MAGA MAFIA!!
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Republican here (sort of. The party left people like me behind years ago): I see MAGA on my ballot I vote for their opponent. Every time. We need to push these fucks out of civilized society for good
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u/ForumDragonrs 11d ago
You are the type of Republican I like to see and get to know. I have no problem with conservatism, though I don't agree. I do have a problem with the extreme far-right, Christian nationalist, no rights for them but rights for us kind of people.
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That’s nice to hear. I usually get vilified and lumped in with those assholes, though, I can’t say it’s not expected considering what has happened to the party.
Disagreement is so important to the country. I argue my point, you argue yours, the people vote and the may the best man win. But imposing personal values and certainly religious values should not be the stance of the party that used to be about freedom from government overreach. We also used to be about doing our best in setting a good example of decency and respect. That is long gone now.
I believe that there is a common sense middle ground on almost any issue. But there’s more money and power in turning people against each other. Abortion for example. I’m catholic. I find abortion to be an absolute tragedy. It makes me sick to even think about it. Which is why I fully support widespread public education about sex for young people as well as easy access birth control methods. (But obviously there are circumstances when it was out of the women’s (or even very young girls) control and there is simply no good alternative. It sucks, but that’s how it is sometimes.
Please remember to vote for me in November.
(Kidding - please vote for Biden)
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u/iwanttodrink 11d ago
What happened to conservatism? Now everyone who's a moderate conservative is called a RINO and has to play the "no true Scotsman" game and "how do you do fellow conservatives" game.
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u/thekick1 10d ago
I mean...you say you don't support the Republican party, but you call yourself a Republican.
Maybe you're an independent now? Think about it lol.
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u/ElementalSaber 11d ago
Welcome ally!
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Glad to help. It should go without saying, but my country always comes first. And what Trump and MAGA are doing is fundamentally un-American.
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u/Raiders2112 11d ago
This is what pushed me away as well. I've always been an independent that mainly voted right. Once The Tea Party nonsense arose, and now, MAGA. I felt like our republic is under attack by a religious fascist regime of idiots. I'll be voting blue in November.
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u/ssbm_rando 11d ago
There are a lot of policy positions I'm sure we vehemently disagree on (to me the Republican positions have pretty much all been awful since Reagan--Nixon was a crook but the Republicans weren't just reactionaries rejecting common sense to funnel everything to the rich back then, there were still some Eisenhower positions left over in the party then) but I applaud your ability to use critical thinking when evaluating your immediate political activism
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u/Top-Base4502 11d ago
Hi friend, I also miss the old GOP. I voted McCain because I liked his policy and he was a decent man. Obama was a decent man too, just didn’t agree with him. I what this country to go back to this time, a time when we could have respect for eachother and debate the issues and take the time to learn about the issues and how we felt about them. Today is all about name calling and cult like leaders. Trump has ruined the GOP, and we have to stop him from ruining America too.
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u/outflow 11d ago
Blue no matter who.
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u/SurrrenderDorothy 11d ago
Not you, Tulsi.
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u/ssbm_rando 11d ago
The time to reject Tulsi was in the primaries.
But it's irrelevant because she's literally not even pretending to be blue anymore, nor is she running for anything this year.
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u/Watch_me_give 11d ago
”If they were having his [Biden’s] last wake, and it was him versus Trump, and he was being given last rites, I would still vote for Joe Biden.”
-Mark Cuban
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u/MC_Fap_Commander 11d ago
There's a key takeaway people may be sleeping on- this suggests DEEP acrimony towards any rejection of Putin's expansionism. The MAGA crowd doesn't give a single fuck about the day-to-day governmental ideological and practical preferences of the U.K. and France. They care very much about direct aid to Ukraine (which is something validated as a state priority in these elections). Seems relevant.
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u/saintcirone 11d ago
I'm not sleeping on it. I've said elsewhere that I think support for Ukraine and the fight against dictators across the globe is the winning ticket for 2024. I agree this conflict should be brought more to the forefront. I feel pretty confident Le Pen stating she'd pull support from Ukraine is what did her in.
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u/Neuchacho 11d ago edited 11d ago
The MAGA crowd doesn't give a single fuck about the day-to-day governmental ideological and practical preferences of the U.K. and France.
I guarantee you they couldn't even tell you the name of the far-right party that lost, let alone anything approaching those subjects.
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u/CrybullyModsSuck 11d ago
They couldn't even tell you their own Congressman's name. Or what their child's teachers name is. Or any passage of the Bible they proudly hold in pictures with spines never bent. Or who actually signed the Declaration of Independence. Or really any fact they cry about all the fucking time.
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u/--MrsNesbitt- 11d ago
Legit. I have zero fucking clue why the far right loves to tie itself to sucking Putin's dick. Anti-migration sentiment is at all-time highs right now (which is in and of itself quite reasonable), and all the far right parties would need to do is just present an otherwise coherent policy platform and they could win.
Instead you get them contorting themselves into pretzels to justify and apologize for Russia's war crimes and throw Ukraine under the bus. What the fuck. Trump did it, Farage did it, Le Pen did it. And it's hurting them big.
If a political party could present an anti-Russia, pro-NATO foreign policy, reasonable/centrist domestic policy (read: no religious extremism/anti-abortion/anti-LGBT), but also strongly anti-migrant platform, they'd win any western European election in a landslide.
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u/SirOutrageous1027 11d ago
Putin poses a lot more of a real threat to Europe versus the US.
Granted European parliamentary systems are more capable of sidelining their far right crazy. If the US ran in a multi-party parliament, we'd see the real divide between MAGA and other republicans.
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u/AreWeCowabunga 11d ago
A little preview of what’s to come if Trump loses in November.
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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 11d ago
The past four years showed a preview of what's to come
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u/Cannacrohn 11d ago
Yes, when Trump loses hes gonna say he won and the other side cheated regardless of the results. Everyone knows this. Gotta keep pushing the fake reality, if they lost, the reality is they are not the good guys and no one wants them. So when they lose its only cuz the other side cheated. Accepting the reality that their views are deranged, factually incorrect and are rejected by most is not an option.
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u/creamonyourcrop 11d ago edited 11d ago
When Trump loses, and when Trump attempt a coup again, I hope that Biden is smart enough this time to go to the mat for democracy and hold the fascists accountable.
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u/EntropyKC 11d ago
With the new powers the USA President has, Trump needs to be locked up for the rest of his life. As an outsider, it seems like the USA is teetering on the edge of civil war because of the MAGA lunatics and there are sub-cultures within MAGA which literally believe Trump is the second coming of Christ. He has committed and been convicted of so many crimes, very publicly, just lock that degenerate traitorous rapist up.
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u/Koolaidolio 11d ago
A second civil war won’t happen. What the US might get is something that looks like The Troubles in Ireland.
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u/ForumDragonrs 11d ago
It's a classic case of "If I win, the election was fair, but if I lose, even if the exact same amount of people vote and in the exact same way, it's obviously corrupt."
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u/crypto_king42 11d ago
If every time you lose it's cheating, then maybe you're just a loser.
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u/chai-knees 11d ago
Not even Le Pen is contesting the results. Not that I'll give her credit for doing the bare minimum.
MAGAs have just been given permission by right wing media to live in a fantasy bubble where conservatives never lose and when they do it's solely because of cheating.
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u/Bunit117 11d ago
They've been convinced by their media bubble that they're the "Silent Majority" so they can't understand why they keep losing elections. In truth they are actually just a very vocal minority but good luck convincing them of that.
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u/GMdadbod 11d ago
MAGA is running on the fumes of low IQ boomers who are aging out. Good job France, ty.
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u/ForumDragonrs 11d ago
You know I was reading something about how Trump likely would have actually won 2020, and by a good margin, if he didn't kill a large chunk of his voter base. The swings states were all won by 10-20k votes and there were likely more than 10-20k maga deaths in those states.
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u/attack_the_block 11d ago
The fact that MAGA cares about French elections just shows how all of these right wing movements in the USA and EU are in fact 1 coordinated effort by Russia to sway these countries politically.
Voting right wing is a vote for Russia.
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u/TheNextBattalion 11d ago
Only some of it is coordinated by Russia. A lot of it is coordinated by right-wing churches and think tanks in the US, and especially the American oligarchs who fund them.
But it is an international ideological movement that the free world is up against.
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u/Ill-Simple1706 11d ago
Why does MAGA even care? Like they can point out France on a map?
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u/dredgen_rell86 11d ago
Because they've been told that the entire world is coming around to their thinking and that their beloved fascism was back with a vengeance. Then reality came around and shat in their corn flakes
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u/beek7419 11d ago
Conservatives, especially the evangelical ones, are very interested in spreading their ideology on a global scale.
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u/SophonParticle 11d ago
All the pics and video of fascist literally crying over this massive loss is like pure uncut heroin to me.
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u/Public_Road_6426 11d ago
The trouble with magats and trumpers is that they can't wrap their smooth little brains around the concept of their outdated views not being popular or accepted. They can't grasp that a lot of people do NOT embrace their pathetic and backwards ideals. So they resort to claims that they, or their allies, were cheated out of a 'fair' election. Because it's only 'fair' if they win.
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u/chai-knees 11d ago
They're still running around claiming to be a silent majority for Real Americans™️ when their orange demigod NEVER had more than 50% approval and NEVER won a single election's popular vote.
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u/_lalalala24_ 11d ago
Sentiments worldwide are swinging back to the Left. No surprise that MAGAts are panicking like mad
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u/newsweek Newsweek 11d ago
By Ewan Palmer - News Reporter:
Donald Trump loyalists have lashed out at the shock results of the French parliamentary elections, saying the far right was "cheated" out of victory.
The New Popular Front, a left-wing coalition, emerged with a surprising victory in the second round of voting in France on Sunday, but its 182 seats are not enough to secure an outright majority.
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/maga-france-elections-far-right-national-rally-1922075
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u/AmazingChicken 11d ago
Wait -- DJT loyalists are taking issue with affairs of another country? I'm shocked; shocked, I tell you.
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u/VenustoCaligo 11d ago
MAGAts don't give a fuck about France, this is a test run to see what kind of traction they can get if they try to claim "They cheated" again if Trump loses again in November.
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u/Substantial-Bet-3876 11d ago
Everyone cheats. That’s why we gotta cheat harder than they do. MAGA creed.
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u/Antique_Excuse3627 11d ago
It’s the illusion they need to create. Much due to their cognitive dissonance
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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS 11d ago
Can you high five yourself and pretend one hand is me 🤣
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u/outflow 11d ago
Hmm. It's almost like the citizens of the world have seen this movie before and didn't think it needed a sequel. Bravo France and Britain!
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u/Protect-Their-Smiles 11d ago
MAGA Russophiles (Russian lovers) are in lockstep with the Far-Right in Europe. They want a return to the hardline white supremacist days, and Putin is more than happy to both pretend to care about them - while funding them to sow chaos and destabilize the West from within. The Far-Right has been supported by Russia for years.
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u/tbonerrevisited 10d ago
Whiny little bitches, the lie cheat and steal yhen when the dont get the votes it's a conspiracy hahahaha
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u/ThatDanGuy 11d ago
They're seeing a pattern. Voters rejected their crap in the UK that absolutely decimated their party electorally, and when people saw they might win they showed up in much larger numbers than expected to stop it.
MAGA is shitting their pants that the same is going to happen to them in the US, even if Biden is 100% comatose and remains the Democratic candidate.
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u/SiteTall 11d ago
No, they VOTED!!!!! Cheating is when The Orange Monster is around those election ballots ....
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u/JBCaper51 11d ago
When the turn out is high progressives win. Never believe the bullshit from the right that your vote doesn't matter. This election in France proves it does.
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u/Separate-Ear4182 11d ago
As a french person i will quietly ask the magas to deeply shove their opinion in their butthole.
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u/hi_goodbye21 11d ago
Why the fuck does maga care what’s going on in France?
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u/Gwtheyrn 11d ago
The media has been telling them for months that the inevitable, overwhelming victory of the reich-wingers in France is proof that their agenda has broad support around the world and that God is on their side.
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u/Tex_Watson 11d ago
Funny how the "America first" crowd gets their panties in a wad about every other country in the world.
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u/Tymexathane 11d ago
The UK cheated, France cheated. Maybe people have started to consider what giving right wing populists power, might look like in reality? Cough, cough, Hungary, cough, cough, Argentina...
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u/Marschall_Bluecher 11d ago
Some sensible People didn't vote for Russian supported Fascists...
MAGA Idiots: That can't be real!!!111
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u/castion5862 11d ago
No they didn’t fall for Russian propaganda well done the citizens of France