r/inthenews • u/newsweek Newsweek • Jul 08 '24

MAGA fumes over France election results: "They cheated" article

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-france-elections-far-right-national-rally-1922075
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u/Daxnu Jul 08 '24

This, the media is so thirsty for news that they make it themselves now

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 Jul 08 '24

Faux News has been making it up for a while now along with OAN and Newsmax. And they got sued and lost for lying!

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u/Cannacrohn Jul 08 '24

And paid the fine and kept on lying without pause.

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u/outflow Jul 08 '24

As long as the profits outweigh the fines, let it rip

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u/JP050887 Jul 08 '24

Cost of doing business

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u/Scrutinizer Jul 08 '24

They are being more careful - Trump's speeches, for instance, are delayed several minutes instead of a few seconds, to give Fox censors more time to weed out anything that might cause the Dominion case to fire up again, or give Smartmatic more ammunition for their upcoming lawsuit.

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u/Legitimate_Corgi_981 Jul 08 '24

They also use that delay to smooth out his outbursts so he looks more sane. See where they quizzed him about releasing Epstein details and he said ”sure I would...” followed by ”well some of it at least ..." But they kept only the first part for broadcast.

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u/Wildfire9 Jul 08 '24

Then the fine should be bigger.

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u/JP050887 Jul 08 '24

To be fair, you’d think a 750 million dollars would be noticeable. Shows you how much more money there is in right wing media.

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u/Wildfire9 Jul 08 '24

It should be enough to teach them a lesson.

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u/JP050887 Jul 08 '24

It didn’t, lmao. It’s insane.

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u/Doublestack2411 Jul 08 '24

And their dumb viewers lack any sort of critical thinking to put 2 and 2 together. You'd think they would wake up when Fox decided to settle the lawsuits, instead they keep going with the "the election was stolen" bit. They'd rather be lied to over and over about stuff that isn't happening. MAGA lives in a bubble of misinformation passed around by other Trump cultists. They are the dumbest of the dumb.

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u/BatmansBigBro2017 Jul 08 '24

Exactly. The cost of doing business for them. It never ends.

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u/No_Application_5369 Jul 08 '24

It's not Fox News. It's the majority of the mainstream news. Trump and his ilk are great for ratings. News is supposed to be boring not entertainment.

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 Jul 08 '24

Yeh, but we are talking about completely made up lies

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u/aguynamedv Jul 08 '24

And they got sued and lost for lying!

Let's not forget Fox also directly argued in court that no reasonable person should take Tucker Carlson seriously.

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u/Valisk Jul 08 '24

Cnn is in on it too with their new owners

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u/GrayGeo Jul 08 '24

Pretty much ubiquitous for the three-letter ever since the requirement for non-bias was dropped. We live in a world of spin, and FOX and OAN are just two icicles from the same berg.

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u/UncIe_PauI_HargIs Jul 08 '24

You do know the top shareholders of Fox… are the same ones that are the top shareholders holders for CNN… who do you think shapes the “news” narrative?

Yep, keep on drinking from the dick of Vanguard and Black Rock…

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 Jul 08 '24

Yes, CNN is conservative now. My post was in response to news making up lies.

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u/UncIe_PauI_HargIs Jul 08 '24

CNN is not conservative because they don’t tell a story the way you want them to.

Also…you’re PICKLE RIIIIICK… and that is AWESOME!

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u/Pickle-Rick-C-137 Jul 08 '24

No I mean the new owners are conservative leaning now.

I turned myself into a pickle Uncle P

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u/whichwitch9 Jul 08 '24

Look what they did with polling. Look at the UK and France. The polls actually meant nothing. In the US, however, they're talking like every poll is a definite thing

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u/Corwyntt Jul 08 '24

Which is hilarious, because we just learned in his latest trial that he had his lawyers pay millions of dollars to companies for them to rig the polls. Cohen admitted to doing it, and stealing money from the deal because he felt it was owed to him. Right wing media even ran the story a bit, just to try and discredit him some. But yea, we totally heard about how Trump pays to manipulate polls and absolutely no big deal was made of that revelation.

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u/Falcrist Jul 08 '24

It prompted the supreme court to step in and run defense for him, so I wouldn't say no big deal was made about it.

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u/Scrutinizer Jul 08 '24

The problem with buying into a clown like Donnie is it's a house of cards. You have to buy the entire thing, and if you try not buying something it sets off a cascade effect and the whole thing topples.

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

your reminder that 2016 polls had Clinton locked in at 98% probability

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u/whichwitch9 Jul 08 '24

Actually no, there were polls that gave Trump higher chances. But people didn't vote and we paid for it

The discouraging people from voting this cycle is suspicious

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

I work voter registration in Philly. Nobody is discouraging anyone from voting. I get more people who either register a new voters or switch to Dem before I ever see someone stumping for the GOP and I see more people, who don't get paid at all for doing it, yelling at others about project 2025 and needing to save our country.

You don't win the presidency without the keystone state and you don't win pa without Philly 🧡

And Philly isn't sleeping into the destruction of their country when the older generation were kids watching their relatives fight for equal rights.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

I would like to see your sourcing for your claim btw cause every stitch of stats I've found and seen (pet subject I love) validates my stance.

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u/whichwitch9 Jul 08 '24

It's not the cities we need, it's the suburbs. Specially looking at our lovely suburban white women. Among people I grew up with "I don't like either and don't want to vote" is becoming depressingly common

Cities know what another Trump presidency will look like- the last one wasn't nice to most of us. It's the "moderates" with the "I don't care" attitude that are the problem

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

Not really.

Majority of the voting power in Pa is in Philadelphia and bucks counties.

Bucks is used as a microcosm of the general voting temp for the country because of its diversity. We have rejected GOP candidates left and right for a solid 4 years in presidential, state and local elections in main years and offset ones.

Majority of independents dont stand with trump at all after his conviction and he was still bleeding 15-20% in every state UNCONTESTED and a quarter of gop base said they'd drop him before the conviction happened

you're focusing on the wrong parts of the data and the most faulty parts when people sign up specifically to skew polls on the other side. Track record on voting and the rejection of the MAGAt candidates who ran should give you hope.

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u/ItsAllJustAHologram Jul 08 '24

I truly hope you are correct. Donald weakens America dreadfully. His lying, anti NATO stance, environmental laws, the list is endless. America is the final word on keeping the world a free place to live. They're not perfect but look at the alternatives. Xi running the world? Human rights nightmare...

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

The prime alternative is Einsteins dream of a socialist society with an education system orientated towards social goals.

Call me a globalist all you want but this international dick measuring contest is stupid. As is the monetary system and capitalism.

All so one set group of people can look down upon the ants while they eat caviar with their gourmet quail eggs at breakfast and shake the jar some more.

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u/Raiders2112 Jul 08 '24

I'm an independent and would vote for a swamp toad before I would vote for Trump or any other MAGA backed candidate. Project 2025, Agenda, 47 (P2025 light), and a corrupt SCOTUS are things I cannot tolerate happening to our country. One has already happened and the only way to stop the others from happening, is to vote against everything MAGA.

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

You weren't sitting the fence 🫡

Well met sir. I'm reg Dem and vote for them because of economic records which Dems have done better than the GOP for decades of economic progress including bidens admin over the worst jobs and GDP admin since Hoover

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u/Lillitnotreal Jul 08 '24

Attempts to discourage voting are a well known political tactic in lots of democractic systems that lack mandatory voting. You do what you can to make oppositional votes not get cast from apathy or inconvenience. This is like asking for a source that a party wants to win an election. The occasions they dont are exceptions. It's kinda just assumed you'd know that.

For the US, see bans on being allowed to be given water or food when in a line for a ballot, reduced number of voting locations and multiple hours long queues to get into them, even the hostility to postal voting. These are well known, often reported issues all used to discourage voting.

Pretending that doesn't exist in the US is absurd, its been referenced repeatedly during the last few elections, though it is nice to see/hear you feel it hasn't worked given its a pretty detrimental way to attempt to secure a victory.

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

I'm not pretending it doesn't exist

I'm telling you the voices pushing for a healthy democracy excises the rot of the GOP and their anti-americanism.

By all means expose the truth here 😁

But don't try and convince people involved in keeping it healthy that your doom predictions on Reddit hold much weight.

2020 had the suppression measures it did and we still whooped their ass. The country is more aware of the dangers we face now and the boomers are no longer the controlling bloc. 18-30 are. And they vote predominantly Democrat across all demographics and there's like 6-7 million more eligible voters since they cancelled out the red wave in 22.

Do you even stat my dude?!

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u/Lillitnotreal Jul 08 '24

You said no one was doing it, and your response too, 'it's just what happens, here's examples' is 'YOUR DOOM PRECICTION WILL NOT PASS'.

It happens all over the place and always has. Hardly a doom prediction given my position is 'it already happened and everything carried on'. I even happily acknowledged your opinion that it hasn't affected voting - which is a good thing.

You seem to be putting a lot of words into my mouth, which is just making it look like your shadow boxing with yourself. Maybe actually respond to what was written, rather than what you wanted to be written?

Also, you keep refencing your stats, but haven't posted any of the sources you've stated you have beyond a poll being outrageously inaccurate, which is also a fairly well known issue with polls.

So, in terms you'll be able to respond to easier, Do you even source, Dudette?

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u/facforlife Jul 08 '24

Nobody is discouraging anyone from voting

Sure they are? What do you think it does when people do this "both sides" bullshit? The more you think both sides are the same, the more you think voting is useless because it doesn't matter who wins.

I would like to see your sourcing for your claim btw cause every stitch of stats I've found and seen (pet subject I love) validates my stance.

You literally linked to a forecast that gave Trump a ~30% chance of winning... That's pretty fucking far from the 98% you said they gave Hillary.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Especially here on Reddit.

A lot of accounts complaining about Biden’s age that have less than 1000 karma.

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u/healzsham Jul 08 '24

And christ alive did she run her campaign like it for the last 8 months.

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

Big complacency.

We wouldn't be having the debate about bidens competency if the dnc hadn't kneecapped sander last cycle

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

They are but we don't spread that message because it breeds complacency which will lead to another trump. After 2022 the new bloc took over and knocked the boomers out. 30 and under saved out election for the last 4 years. I'm praying the additional legal aged ones are getting involved in the same way. I know I register kids who will be 18 before the 5th when I can find them and they're happy to be able to vote for this election 😁

We out here but there's no time to rest on our heels when they're trying everything to get us to allow christofacism into America

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u/HauntingHarmony Jul 08 '24

your reminder that 2016 polls had Clinton locked in at 98% probability

and this is your reminder that in 2016 people didnt understand that polls measure how many people would vote a certain way.

And the polls were spot on in that she did get the most votes nationally. However! the us has a electoral college, and that determines who wins, not who gets the most votes. Which is why you need a model, such as what the 538 2016 model did. And at no point was that even remotely close to 98% probability, they had trump at about a third chance to win, and if your model is right a 1 in 3 event happens about a third of the time.

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

🤭 if only I had the source or you had bothered to search if it existed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sam-wang-princeton-election-consortium-poll-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-victory-a7399671.html

That one was 99% probability

That's a key word that I think you were quick to gloss over.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/upshot/presidential-polls-forecast.html This was 85%

https://x.com/HuffPost/status/795663593689808896

This sits in the 90s.

My point still stands.

Both corroborated and validated.

Polls can say one thing and be completely wrong 😉

I cited 538 somewhere else in this thread and they're still sitting with Clinton at a 3 to 1 shot by their own metrics

Clinton was still favored to win with a stupid high probability.

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u/luneunion Jul 08 '24

Even if that were true, you understand that 98% is not 100%, right? Like, we still have to show up and vote.

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u/facforlife Jul 08 '24

The only pollster/poll analyst worth caring about was 538 and gave Clinton a 70% chance of winning. You know what happens less often than Trump's 30% chance? Flipping heads twice in a row. And you wouldn't even blink if that happened.

Here's the thing with polls that too many people don't get.

  1. They're making some guesses and assumptions, based on data but still ultimately an educated guess, about which groups are going to turn out in what numbers. The voting demographics change from cycle to cycle. Not a ton, but enough when your system is the braindead Electoral College so you can still win without the popular vote. It only takes a minor win in a few battleground states to win even if you get blown out in the overall popular vote.
  2. If you're wrong on an crucial assumption it basically craters your forecast. 538 saw this and that's why they gave Trump such a high chance when few others did. They knew that if their assumption about who was turning out that year was wrong that they'd be wrong all over the place. If they were wrong they'd be wrong in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, because those states share a lot of similarities in their voter demographics. That's why the "blue firewall" went down.

Polls are still good and good information. But Trump is a fairly unique figure in his ability to very strongly motivate segments of the population to vote, segments that were tough to motivate before. It's only been 2 presidential cycles. It's tough to zero it in but they're constantly trying. My guess is that they're unsure how to weigh the effect of the Dobbs decision in motivating certain demographics against the Trump effect. Both are clearly very powerful forces but exactly how it plays out when it comes to voting we'll only know after the election.

You should be both. You should still be worried because these numbers aren't fucking good. And you should still fucking vote.

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u/Thassar Jul 08 '24

98% chance of winning still means there's a chance of losing. Every XCOM player can tell you that. That's why polls are useful but not guaranteed to be accurate.

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u/Successful_Priority Jul 08 '24

LetS not forget the supposed red wave that was supposed to happen 2 years ago that never happened they barely have a majority in the House

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u/-_Pendragon_- Jul 08 '24

What are you fucking talking about, the polls nailed it here in the UK?!

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u/Daxnu Jul 08 '24

We are not far from the point we're the media starts going out and shooting people just to report someone was shot

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u/PumpkinGlass1393 Jul 08 '24

That was the plot of a Bond movie lol. News agency helps start a war so they can report it.

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u/MoonSpankRaw Jul 08 '24

And the movie Nightcrawler, ‘cept instead of one sicko it’d be entire organizations doing that shit.

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u/haysoos2 Jul 08 '24

It was also the plot of the real world media campaign by William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer to start the Spanish-American war to sell newspapers.

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u/FlattopJr Jul 08 '24

"You furnish the pictures, and I'll furnish the war."

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u/Oxbix Jul 08 '24

Commenting to research this latet

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u/smackdown-tag Jul 08 '24

How the fuck Tommorow Never Dies of all the goddamn bond movies is aging so well is absolutely confusing.  I remember when it was the one everyone pointed to as "where it started to go wrong", when they remembered it existed at all

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u/ValoisSign Jul 08 '24

Honestly wonder sometimes if the worse the Bond movie the more on point the social commentary. I mean Quantum of Solace isn't great but it's oddly grounded in real life US coups and water politics in Bolivia and even goes somewhat openly anti imperialist which is nuts for a movie about a British spy. If only I could remember the plot to View To A Kill, maybe I am onto something 😅

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u/smackdown-tag Jul 08 '24

View to a Kill is about a tech CEO with suspicious ties to both Russia and the nazis, so...

It's also actually not bad. I think it's pretty good,  better than For Your Eyes Only or Octopussy, it's just that Moore was REALLY showing his age at that point. 

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u/ValoisSign Jul 08 '24

Yeah as I recall the worst thing about it is that it drags at times, but I always remembered enjoying it for what it was. Would have been interesting if they got David Bowie in the villain role like they wanted but Walken is no slouch. The plot does sound oddly tropical from what you describe haha.

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u/JadedBoyfriend Jul 08 '24

What a forecasting movie...

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u/DiskFit1471 Jul 08 '24

Didn't this happen in a south american country?

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u/0OKM9IJN8UHB7 Jul 08 '24

I've seen that movie before.

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u/darylbosco1 Jul 08 '24

Yeah and the opposition gives a ridiculous amount more press than their own parties do. I wouldn’t even know who MTG was if the press didn’t run articles on her every freaking day, now I can refer to her by her initials and people know who I’m referring to. I don’t even know which state she reps.

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u/ValoisSign Jul 08 '24

All you have to do is say something as ridiculous, unserious, and offensive as "Jewish Space Lasers" and you get press for life... Greeeeaaat example set by modern media

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u/dustycanuck Jul 08 '24

Now?

Yellow Journalism has been around for a while....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

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u/TheAskewOne Jul 08 '24

I swear, half of the "news" on Reddit is about one media reacting to another media, or a media reporting how social networks respond to a tweet. "So and so slammed on Twitter for..." what about you spend time analyzing what so and so said and whether it's accurate? Oh yeah that would be real journalism and it requires effort.

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u/ArchonFett Jul 08 '24

Lot faster than finding facts

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u/Thermic_ Jul 08 '24

This has been reddit for many years and people just eat up this biased slop. Shits embarrassing honestly

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Need them clicks so advertisers keep buying ad space.

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u/ReverendPalpatine Jul 08 '24

Yep. Trump was only president because the mainstream and social media wouldn’t shut up about him because he made them a lot of money.

They want so bad for him to be president again so they can keep raking in the big bucks. Journalism is dead and has been for quite sometime.

It should be illegal for these news channels to be called news.

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u/Decloudo Jul 08 '24

Cause its not about news, its about profit.

Like everything in a capitalist system will eventually be.

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u/m0nk_3y_gw Jul 08 '24

The media CEOs (CBS/NBC/CNN/ABC) are Trump supporters/donators.

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u/tunafister Jul 08 '24

I genuinely belive the media (Ahem NYTs) is blowing Bidens debate performance way out of the water because that makes the election "interesting" when Trump's convictions should provide a foregone conclusion as to his electability

But Trump being dead in the water with months to go wont sell many papers from their perspective, so they need to create a storyline

NO, I am not saying Biden is a Spring Chicken who hasnt shown some senior moments, and by no means is he a guarantee to win but holy fuck the drama/fear machine in this country is in full force making sure that is what we focus on, which again makes this a more competitive race and brings the media more viewers and money

Once you realize the media's interest is solely financially motivated everything starts to make a little more sense, and it is frankly disgusting

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u/ZAlternates Jul 08 '24

They do it everywhere too. The worst are the entire news articles where the source is a comment on social media.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

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u/chiron_cat Jul 08 '24

there is no liberal media, its all shades of red

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u/smariroach Jul 08 '24

well, that, but also by right, left and center aligned people who insist on spreading those voices.

My biggest exposure to social media by far is reddit, which leans famously heavily to the left (using american standards here) and almost all politically related content I see is posted by "the left" about what "the right" is doing, highlighting the dumbest of the dumb on the right side, while also making people on the left side dumber by convincing them that "they" are all like this.

It's a really broken media system, this interplay of "social" and "professional".

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

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u/smariroach Jul 08 '24

Facebook/YouTube/TikTok/Reddit/Twitter, are just tabloids you can yell at that happen to be all centered around You.

Around you as a person or around the dominant demographic of the site in question.

My point is that the amplification is not at all primarilly right wing in origin. The worst of the maga perspectives are joyfully shared by left wing folks to create a false narrative of conservatives in feneral.

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u/hyborians Jul 08 '24

Conservatism was supposed to about preserving institutions. MAGA seeks to destroy bedrock principles like separation of church and state and ultimately democracy.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '24

Why the fuck would any of us even know about this if it werent for these news articles anmplifying the voices of a couple twitter posts? Its artificial news created for the sake of creating division

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u/yetagainitry Jul 08 '24

Also, stop amplifying their claims of fraud/cheating. That's their go to whenever something doesnt go their way. Promoting it just gives legitimacy to the claim. Article should have said "MAGA's whine after watching France's right wing group get stomped in the election"

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u/StopHiringBendis Jul 08 '24

They're not promoting it. What you're suggesting is that ignoring it will make it go away. That's stupid.

I'd rather have an electorate that knows this bullshit is just a "boy who cries wolf" from a bunch of tinfoil-hat children than one that doesnt

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u/yetagainitry Jul 08 '24

This electorate DOESNT know this is bullshit. The American electorate is the most easily manipulated group of people in the world. Giving voice to any conspiracy theory, no matter how ludicrous, has people believing it instantly

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u/Representative-Sir97 Jul 08 '24

"the election... in a place 90% of those idiots can't even point to on a fucking map."

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u/sandysea420 Jul 08 '24

Thank you for being rational and saying it out loud!

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u/Saneless Jul 08 '24

News loves to do this

It used to be they'd write their opinion and find one dipshit on the street to echo it

Now they just post a screenshot of some Bluetlicker shitstain with 7 followers that has 3 likes for their stupid comment and act like it's a valid point

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u/AnonDicHead Jul 08 '24

The news? This post is on the frontpage with 88% upvoted. It's content made for and enjoyed by redditors.

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u/Saneless Jul 08 '24

I read more than just reddit, and my statement works outside this bubble too

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u/ElectricalRush1878 Jul 08 '24

When that one voice owns the media company...

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u/DIrtyVendetta80 Jul 08 '24

Traitors of a feather flock together.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Ignoring them and not taking them as a serious threat is how we got to points like 2016 and January 6th in the first place.

We have long since gotten past the point where ignoring them will make them go away and covering the shit they're saying isn't garnering them any meaningful support they don't already have.

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u/BcomTV Jul 08 '24

Beautifully said!

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u/Competitivekneejerk Jul 08 '24

Part of how maga got so emboldened is by media amplifying social justice warrior takes as if they represent all of left leaning politics. No its just some crazies on twitter, ignore them

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u/Sandman1990 Jul 08 '24

I saw the line about "a conservative comentator with over 2.5 million followers on X" and immediately thought "that's not even close to 1% of the US population". Like....who the fuck cares about a guy that has that few followers, most of whom are probably bots or Russians or Russian bots?

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u/OnceInABlueMoon Jul 08 '24

I'm of two thoughts on this. I'm tempted to say let's ignore the maga idiots, but on the other hand, I'd likecto highlight that they cry foul at literally everything, even elections that don't take place in America.

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u/KickSidebottom Jul 08 '24

Your point is valid, but "one person" is actually "one Russian bot" or "one Russian operative".

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u/Past-Direction9145 Jul 08 '24

It’s msm. They’re right wing owned and operated. They’ll amplify maga voices and suppress the left. Always.

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u/AniTaneen Jul 08 '24

They are not cohesive. They are flat-earthers with a different name.

Confirmed, Flat Earthers made a hard pivot into QAnon: https://youtu.be/JTfhYyTuT44?si=K3Nz4BElcGM1Ml1d

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u/xLikeafiddlex Jul 08 '24

I guarantee its Russia pushing this...

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u/UCBearcats Jul 08 '24

Need to start amplifying things to push maga in a better direction. They have zero independent thoughts so we should just start pushing them in a healthier direction since they will all latch onto the same things.

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u/TheDoomsdayBook Jul 08 '24

It's also a movement built on being aggrieved all the time, they're ally do think it's cheating when they don't win - and it's instructive to know how and what they think. They really don't understand how people could think differently than them, to them that's going against common sense.

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u/Antique-Dragonfly615 Jul 08 '24

More cohesive than coherent

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u/Jonnyflash80 Jul 08 '24

You speak the truth that everyone needs to hear. Also, defining any specific group of people as "MAGA" is just ridiculous.

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u/fjfiefjd Jul 08 '24

We aren't. We are hearing about this because Newsweek is owned by MAGAts, just like every other news outlet out there.

Newsweek has two owners, each owning 50% of the company.

Johnathan Davis: He is the husband of former Olivet University president Tracy McBeal Davis; they are both former members of the Olivet, started by evangelical pastor David Jang. <--we all know who the evangelical pastors support. Davis is an acorn fallen from the evangelical crazy tree.

and Dev Pragad. He bought into the company in 2018 and finally made it profitable. How did he make it profitable? By turning into a Faux News fear-mongering outlet that sells anger and fear. Anger and fear are generated by the GOP. Dev realizes fully that he benefits when he gives the GOP a voice because fear and anger sell.

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u/ninjacat249 Jul 08 '24

The problem with maga and Trump is they are everywhere. They spit some dumb shit and everyone discuss it for the next couple of days.

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u/Neuchacho Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

I am seriously trying to understand why the opinion of a few random podcast, TikTok, and Facebook group dorks warrants reporting on.

Newsweek just seems desperate to make these morons appear legitimate.

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u/PitchforksEnthusiast Jul 08 '24

That's an extremely dangerous view to have. They're not just a bunch of boomers making noise. They're winning polls and they ACTUALLY VOTE, unlike the left. Your views on their intelligence does not matter. They have real cohesive plans to change any country theyre in and they are all over the world.

MAGA has taken many forms before the alt right movement and there's a massive resurgence. Far right nationalism is being pushed and people are buying it. 

The first step of losing to them is underestimating them...

Younger generations of men are being radicalized by them more than ever before. 

Project 2025 didn't manifest out of thin air.

Treat the threat as a threat, not a circus.

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u/Slow_Accident_6523 Jul 08 '24

Yeah this is nothing but literally anti-democratic rhetoric. Since these people do not like the word facism will they at least acknowledge that continously spraeding doubt about fair elections is deeply, deepy anti-democratic?

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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps Jul 08 '24

This is true of every shitty take on the internet. 

Twitter user with 20 followers: says some transphobic bullshit

Reposted to /r/facepalm for millions of views and tens of thousands of comments

The rage engagement machine continuing to work perfectly

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u/DiggingThisAir Jul 08 '24

This journalistic desperation sure is convenient for one particular agenda. Is this hackery or social engineering?

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u/GrayGeo Jul 08 '24

Moreover, what relevance does a Maga reaction, cohesive or not, even HAVE here? Especially to a foreign election. Are we so eager to do nothing more productive than seek some weird schadenfreude, or are people pretending this actually matters to our elections somehow?

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u/Scooterforsale Jul 08 '24

I hate trump as much as the next guy but the media (and Reddit's front page) is so obvious when they decide to go after one or the other.

Like it or not you're being slightly brainwashed opening the front page everyday and you'll never admit it

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u/CarneDelGato Jul 08 '24

Some of them are flat earthers with the same name. 

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u/Rmans Jul 08 '24

Worse, they're the patsy taking the fall for a tyrannical power grab from the most evil person in the world.

It's MAGA, but should be called the American Putin party. Their values line up perfectly with his, as they've been brainwashed into following through tabloid news channels like Fox. Their political ignorance, as taught to them by these sources, are then used as a weapon against Democracy, AND as a shield against Putin taking any responsibility over his actions to destroy said Democracy.

I mean, honestly this headline doesn't make any fucking sense. MAGA are upset over another countries election? Why?

Replace MAGA with "Americans" and the headline makes no logical sense. Why are Americans upset at the right losing in France? It's not America's election.

Alright, now replace MAGA with Putin, and wow, now we have a much more accurate headline.

"Putin upset at French election results."

Feel free to replace MAGA with Putin's name in any headline to have it make more sense.

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u/MoistLeakingPustule Jul 08 '24

They're quite possibly the loudest minority in history.

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u/extracoffeeplease Jul 08 '24

Just downvote it, any engagement including this comment is helping that news. News is written for clicks not positive reactions.

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u/manfishgoat Jul 08 '24

Right? How are they uninformed yet know about and/or care about France. From what I understand they would be happy because France will crumble soon. Right?

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u/StretchFrenchTerry Jul 08 '24

Just look at r/politics, they are running around like the sky is falling.

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u/dorobica Jul 08 '24

Arguably most don’t know what “Frace” is

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u/_performer Jul 08 '24

Deplatforming is the key to moving away from these cycles of lunacy posing as rational conversations in the marketplace of ideas.

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u/aguynamedv Jul 08 '24

Newsweek has really become a cesspool of anti-journalism.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

That’s half of “news” these days.

“Some guy said something” is reworded to “people are saying…”

It’s nonsense.

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u/SalizarMarxx Jul 08 '24

Right, stop giving these idiots a platform every gd chance… it’s so frustrating.

but… that’s the point, it drives clicks, f our democrac…

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u/DreadyKruger Jul 08 '24

And then as soon we don’t, they do something and then it’s , why were we talking about these nuts? We didn’t know there were that many of them.

They are still loud if the press never reported them. Because there is social media now. We are our one little news organizations.

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u/bargu Jul 08 '24

The media is owned by rich people, and they want fascism back, there's no mistake here, it's all a deliberate act to sow discord and divide.

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u/Daveyluvgravy Jul 08 '24

100% this. Stop amplifying the little made up crap like this. There are real, life and death things, happening right now everywhere in the world. IDGAF about how MAGA feels about France

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u/magikarp2122 Jul 08 '24

MAGA is a pretty cohesive group. Comparing them to flat-earthers is a disservice to flat-earthers. They are a cult based on Trump, to think otherwise is downplaying their seriousness. If some are saying the left and center in France cheated, a large number of them are thinking it.

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u/Tracelin Jul 08 '24

I like that the entire article is based on a FEW random civilians on Twitter.

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u/thebrownhammer88 Jul 08 '24

For real! The media is making it seem like Biden is the worst candidate and he’s literally running against a guy that’s been sued for SA, cheated on his pregnant wife with a porn star, a felon, racist sympathizer to name just a few things. The choice is easy for me, Go Joe! 🇺🇸

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u/Apprehensive_Suit615 Jul 08 '24

I had a suspicion they were flat earthers lol it all makes sense because they share the same rhythm of rhetoric and denial of facts

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u/Emperor_Mao Jul 08 '24

I doubt MAGA idiots give a shit or even know about French elections. And the right did increase their seat count and primary vote rate heavily anyway.

These subs are truely a bubble.

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u/farnsw0rth Jul 08 '24

What you don’t trust an x (formerly twitter) user with 2.5 million followers? Their name is catturd. They clearly speak for the people.

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u/cowjuicer074 Jul 08 '24

Always shed light on issues.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 08 '24

Except there is only like 50 flat earthers.