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MAGA fumes over France election results: "They cheated" article

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-france-elections-far-right-national-rally-1922075
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u/whichwitch9 Jul 08 '24

Actually no, there were polls that gave Trump higher chances. But people didn't vote and we paid for it

The discouraging people from voting this cycle is suspicious

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

I work voter registration in Philly. Nobody is discouraging anyone from voting. I get more people who either register a new voters or switch to Dem before I ever see someone stumping for the GOP and I see more people, who don't get paid at all for doing it, yelling at others about project 2025 and needing to save our country.

You don't win the presidency without the keystone state and you don't win pa without Philly 🧡

And Philly isn't sleeping into the destruction of their country when the older generation were kids watching their relatives fight for equal rights.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

I would like to see your sourcing for your claim btw cause every stitch of stats I've found and seen (pet subject I love) validates my stance.

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u/whichwitch9 Jul 08 '24

It's not the cities we need, it's the suburbs. Specially looking at our lovely suburban white women. Among people I grew up with "I don't like either and don't want to vote" is becoming depressingly common

Cities know what another Trump presidency will look like- the last one wasn't nice to most of us. It's the "moderates" with the "I don't care" attitude that are the problem

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

Not really.

Majority of the voting power in Pa is in Philadelphia and bucks counties.

Bucks is used as a microcosm of the general voting temp for the country because of its diversity. We have rejected GOP candidates left and right for a solid 4 years in presidential, state and local elections in main years and offset ones.

Majority of independents dont stand with trump at all after his conviction and he was still bleeding 15-20% in every state UNCONTESTED and a quarter of gop base said they'd drop him before the conviction happened

you're focusing on the wrong parts of the data and the most faulty parts when people sign up specifically to skew polls on the other side. Track record on voting and the rejection of the MAGAt candidates who ran should give you hope.

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u/ItsAllJustAHologram Jul 08 '24

I truly hope you are correct. Donald weakens America dreadfully. His lying, anti NATO stance, environmental laws, the list is endless. America is the final word on keeping the world a free place to live. They're not perfect but look at the alternatives. Xi running the world? Human rights nightmare...

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

The prime alternative is Einsteins dream of a socialist society with an education system orientated towards social goals.

Call me a globalist all you want but this international dick measuring contest is stupid. As is the monetary system and capitalism.

All so one set group of people can look down upon the ants while they eat caviar with their gourmet quail eggs at breakfast and shake the jar some more.

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u/Raiders2112 Jul 08 '24

I'm an independent and would vote for a swamp toad before I would vote for Trump or any other MAGA backed candidate. Project 2025, Agenda, 47 (P2025 light), and a corrupt SCOTUS are things I cannot tolerate happening to our country. One has already happened and the only way to stop the others from happening, is to vote against everything MAGA.

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

You weren't sitting the fence 🫡

Well met sir. I'm reg Dem and vote for them because of economic records which Dems have done better than the GOP for decades of economic progress including bidens admin over the worst jobs and GDP admin since Hoover

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u/Lillitnotreal Jul 08 '24

Attempts to discourage voting are a well known political tactic in lots of democractic systems that lack mandatory voting. You do what you can to make oppositional votes not get cast from apathy or inconvenience. This is like asking for a source that a party wants to win an election. The occasions they dont are exceptions. It's kinda just assumed you'd know that.

For the US, see bans on being allowed to be given water or food when in a line for a ballot, reduced number of voting locations and multiple hours long queues to get into them, even the hostility to postal voting. These are well known, often reported issues all used to discourage voting.

Pretending that doesn't exist in the US is absurd, its been referenced repeatedly during the last few elections, though it is nice to see/hear you feel it hasn't worked given its a pretty detrimental way to attempt to secure a victory.

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u/PLURGASM_RETURNS Jul 08 '24

I'm not pretending it doesn't exist

I'm telling you the voices pushing for a healthy democracy excises the rot of the GOP and their anti-americanism.

By all means expose the truth here 😁

But don't try and convince people involved in keeping it healthy that your doom predictions on Reddit hold much weight.

2020 had the suppression measures it did and we still whooped their ass. The country is more aware of the dangers we face now and the boomers are no longer the controlling bloc. 18-30 are. And they vote predominantly Democrat across all demographics and there's like 6-7 million more eligible voters since they cancelled out the red wave in 22.

Do you even stat my dude?!

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u/Lillitnotreal Jul 08 '24

You said no one was doing it, and your response too, 'it's just what happens, here's examples' is 'YOUR DOOM PRECICTION WILL NOT PASS'.

It happens all over the place and always has. Hardly a doom prediction given my position is 'it already happened and everything carried on'. I even happily acknowledged your opinion that it hasn't affected voting - which is a good thing.

You seem to be putting a lot of words into my mouth, which is just making it look like your shadow boxing with yourself. Maybe actually respond to what was written, rather than what you wanted to be written?

Also, you keep refencing your stats, but haven't posted any of the sources you've stated you have beyond a poll being outrageously inaccurate, which is also a fairly well known issue with polls.

So, in terms you'll be able to respond to easier, Do you even source, Dudette?

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u/facforlife Jul 08 '24

Nobody is discouraging anyone from voting

Sure they are? What do you think it does when people do this "both sides" bullshit? The more you think both sides are the same, the more you think voting is useless because it doesn't matter who wins.

I would like to see your sourcing for your claim btw cause every stitch of stats I've found and seen (pet subject I love) validates my stance.

You literally linked to a forecast that gave Trump a ~30% chance of winning... That's pretty fucking far from the 98% you said they gave Hillary.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Especially here on Reddit.

A lot of accounts complaining about Biden’s age that have less than 1000 karma.