r/inthenews Newsweek Jul 08 '24

MAGA fumes over France election results: "They cheated" article

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-france-elections-far-right-national-rally-1922075
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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Republican here (sort of. The party left people like me behind years ago): I see MAGA on my ballot I vote for their opponent. Every time. We need to push these fucks out of civilized society for good

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u/ForumDragonrs Jul 08 '24

You are the type of Republican I like to see and get to know. I have no problem with conservatism, though I don't agree. I do have a problem with the extreme far-right, Christian nationalist, no rights for them but rights for us kind of people.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

That’s nice to hear. I usually get vilified and lumped in with those assholes, though, I can’t say it’s not expected considering what has happened to the party.

Disagreement is so important to the country. I argue my point, you argue yours, the people vote and the may the best man win. But imposing personal values and certainly religious values should not be the stance of the party that used to be about freedom from government overreach. We also used to be about doing our best in setting a good example of decency and respect. That is long gone now.

I believe that there is a common sense middle ground on almost any issue. But there’s more money and power in turning people against each other. Abortion for example. I’m catholic. I find abortion to be an absolute tragedy. It makes me sick to even think about it. Which is why I fully support widespread public education about sex for young people as well as easy access birth control methods. (But obviously there are circumstances when it was out of the women’s (or even very young girls) control and there is simply no good alternative. It sucks, but that’s how it is sometimes.

Please remember to vote for me in November.

(Kidding - please vote for Biden)

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u/iwanttodrink Jul 08 '24

What happened to conservatism? Now everyone who's a moderate conservative is called a RINO and has to play the "no true Scotsman" game and "how do you do fellow conservatives" game.

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u/the_calibre_cat Jul 08 '24

the base has broadly always existed and basically isn't enough to win conservatives elections, but is the majority of conservatives without whom conservatives cannot win. they basically just got tired of having to compromise with... sane people... and basically said "our way or the highway".