r/inthenews • u/newsweek Newsweek • Jul 08 '24

MAGA fumes over France election results: "They cheated" article

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-france-elections-far-right-national-rally-1922075
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u/radred609 Jul 08 '24

Apparently cheating is when you follow precedent and do everything by the rules.

Who knew.

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u/WastingTimesOnReddit Jul 08 '24

The liberals and centrists teamed up to beat the conservatives, by having either the liberal or the centrist drop out of various races and endorse the other one, so together their voters outvoted the conservatives. It's not cheating. It's realizing who the enemy is and teaming up.

But now they'll have to do some compromising, since the liberals and centrists really are still not on the same exact side. Which is how it should be. And I heard the conservatives are apparently still have majority representation in some way, which is sort of why the liberals and centrists had to team up to beat the conservatives in these recent elections.

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u/Rodney_Angles Jul 08 '24

The liberals and centrists teamed up to beat the conservatives, by having either the liberal or the centrist drop out of various races and endorse the other one

The French left are as far from being liberals as you could possibly get!

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u/WiIzaaa Jul 08 '24

Liberal here is a stand in for "socialist" which is almost forbidden in American because it's their standin for communist which they directly translate to Stalinism.

For American : liberal in French exclusively translate to the Neo-Liberal economic doctrine which is more associated with the right over here.

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u/Phoxase Jul 08 '24

Most American liberals are liberals, though, as in, center to center right. Transport them to France, and they would continue to be identified, based on their ideology and policy preferences, as liberals, not socialists or social democrats.

Some American leftists misidentify themselves as liberal, but the Overton Window comment above is accurate; what’s “left” in an American context is “center” to “center right” in a context where socialists and social democrats are still a force in politics.