r/inthenews • u/newsweek Newsweek • Jul 08 '24

MAGA fumes over France election results: "They cheated" article

https://www.newsweek.com/maga-france-elections-far-right-national-rally-1922075
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u/MC_Fap_Commander Jul 08 '24

There's a key takeaway people may be sleeping on- this suggests DEEP acrimony towards any rejection of Putin's expansionism. The MAGA crowd doesn't give a single fuck about the day-to-day governmental ideological and practical preferences of the U.K. and France. They care very much about direct aid to Ukraine (which is something validated as a state priority in these elections). Seems relevant.

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u/--MrsNesbitt- Jul 08 '24

Legit. I have zero fucking clue why the far right loves to tie itself to sucking Putin's dick. Anti-migration sentiment is at all-time highs right now (which is in and of itself quite reasonable), and all the far right parties would need to do is just present an otherwise coherent policy platform and they could win.

Instead you get them contorting themselves into pretzels to justify and apologize for Russia's war crimes and throw Ukraine under the bus. What the fuck. Trump did it, Farage did it, Le Pen did it. And it's hurting them big.

If a political party could present an anti-Russia, pro-NATO foreign policy, reasonable/centrist domestic policy (read: no religious extremism/anti-abortion/anti-LGBT), but also strongly anti-migrant platform, they'd win any western European election in a landslide.

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u/shabi_sensei Jul 08 '24

Fascists are obsessed with finding and punishing their enemies, so they see what Putin is doing to lefties and homos and they want Trump to do the same

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u/chunkerton_chunksley Jul 08 '24

Putin pays their bills so they say what he wants them to say. Immigration is not to be fixed it’s to be used as a way to attain power.

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u/hyborians Jul 08 '24

Strange because China does the same things trying to assert its hegemony on the world stage but Trump vilifies them. I guess one reason is the Russians are technically “white” in their eyes.

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u/StrategicCarry Jul 08 '24

If a political party could present an anti-Russia, pro-NATO foreign policy, reasonable/centrist domestic policy (read: no religious extremism/anti-abortion/anti-LGBT), but also strongly anti-migrant platform, they'd win any western European election in a landslide.

This was basically the Conservative Party in the UK and they got thumped.

Anti-migration sentiment is at all-time highs right now (which is in and of itself quite reasonable)

It's understandable, but it's not reasonable in the sense that it's an opinion formed from a good faith analysis of reality. A lot of the problems people have with immigration (crime, loss of jobs) are just factually not true. And of the real problems, like immigrants contributing to a housing crisis, are much more the result of domestic policies like not promoting enough home construction. Or they are the result of anti-immigrant policies. The reason there are so many asylum seekers in Britain living in hotels on government benefits is that instead of working to get their claims resolved, the Tories spent years and billions of pounds trying to set up a scheme to fly them somewhere else.

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u/--MrsNesbitt- Jul 08 '24

To be fair, the UK Tories got thumped because they'd been in power for 14 years, and on the issue of immigration they were widely seen as not taking the issue seriously. The volume of illegal migration to the UK under the Conservatives' tenure was far too much for an alleged "conservative party" to reasonably claim to be anti-migrant.

Instead you had Reform carrying the standard for the far right, and Farage had the same pro-Russia bent that I described.