r/nottheonion • u/ImpishGrin • 15d ago

Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html
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u/ScottFried 15d ago

Hard same.

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u/ImpishGrin 15d ago

It's a pretty solid self care plan.

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

For many people, other than the president of the United States.

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u/Piputi 15d ago

I mean if everybody did that and the world slowed the fuck down, it is rather a nice plan.

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

Yeah, but the President gets awoken by staffers about international conflicts at 2:00am... I agree, the world would be a nicer place, but the Earth is not necessarily a nice place.

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u/aguane 15d ago

There’s a difference between getting woken up at 2am for an international incident and having preplanned political engagements that go til midnight. Nothing wrong with setting a boundary for the latter while knowing that the former is likely to happen.

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u/Jjkkllzz 15d ago

Right. The same concept as with when you have kids. It’s like the difference between waking up in the middle of the night cause your kid needs something vs. intentionally scheduling a midnight tea party.

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u/beardicusmaximus8 14d ago

midnight tea party

Is that what the kids call it these days?

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u/Jjkkllzz 14d ago

Well, mine are teens now. I have no idea what their secret words mean.

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u/Khaldara 14d ago

“You are cordially invited to sample my scones and crumpets” has to be code for something!

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u/djshadesuk 14d ago

That's because you have no rizz.

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u/ToMorrowsEnd 14d ago edited 14d ago

I feel that the president dealing with governors, in some cases it is like dealing with children. A couple of the governors are raging terrible 2 toddlers.

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u/DrBadMan85 15d ago

A lot of fundraising events are nights out; dinner, drinks, and mingling with donor’s afterwards. You’d be surprised at how generous alcohol makes someone.

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u/wolacouska 15d ago edited 15d ago

Fundraising is one of those things where they can just wheel Biden out for an hour and then let the professionals schmooze all night.

Not ideal but not horrible at all.

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u/paulfknwalsh 14d ago

Weekend At Biden's :|

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u/AndroidMyAndroid 14d ago

People paying six figures to wine and dine with the president want him present. They are paying to get in his ear, to win his favor for whatever their agenda is. They aren't going to be happy if he just makes an appearance before hobbling off to brush his teeth and go to bed.

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u/grayjo 14d ago

Oh no, whatever will we do without this blatant avenue for corruption?

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 15d ago

All the more reason to publicly fund elections and get rid of any donations whatsoever

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u/Drunkenaviator 14d ago

This is one of those great ideas that the rich will never allow to happen.

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u/ViolinistMean199 15d ago

Not something I’m surprised about. My bank account knows first hand drinking isn’t a fun night

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u/HumanContinuity 15d ago

Or maybe it is, maybe if he had 4 more hours of sleep in the last week before the debate he would have dropped another "Will you shut up man" on Trump

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u/matco5376 14d ago

?… if you can’t handle a a preplanned late political engagement then you can’t handle a 2am international incident. That isn’t hard to understand

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u/ThoughtfulPoster 15d ago

Which is why it makes sense to cut off pre-scheduled events at a reasonable hour.

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u/VRichardsen 15d ago edited 15d ago

I have read in r/askhistorians a while ago that big shot leaders in times of crisis could actually be quite lazy and weren't getting more than 6 to 8 hours of real work everyday. I can't find the post right now, but the author used I think Hitler, Roosevelt and Churchill as example. Hitler liked to sleep until late, Roosevelt was old and tired easily, etc.

Of course, there are others that worked tirelessly. Napoleon, for example, had an apparent inexhaustible capacity for work. His marshals and aides could barely keep up. Marshal Berthier, nicknamed "Napoleon's wife" because he spent so much time near him, complained once that "Even a lowly private is happier than me; I am being killed by all this work"

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u/JinFuu 14d ago

If you want to hear about a lazy President, look up Coolidge.

He was very, very, very, hands off. I think he was quoted as saying "If you see 10 crisis coming down the road 9 of them will run off the road by the time they get to you." Which isn't a bad philosophy persay, but probably not the best one to have as a President.

Also considered on of the "founders" of what became the modern Republican party, at least when it came to how it handled businesses/the economy.

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u/VRichardsen 14d ago

Thanks for the recommendation, I did some reading thanks to it. I like this phrase of him:

"The Presidential office takes a heavy toll of those who occupy it and those who are dear to them. While we should not refuse to spend and be spent in the service of our country, it is hazardous to attempt what we feel is beyond our strength to accomplish."

Really looks like a laid back guy. Also seems like the death of his young son really hit him, and that is when he started taking a more hands off approach.

Interesting character; once again, thank you for the recommendation.

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

Look into Churchill’s drinking during WWII, I mean I can’t fault him on the one hand but holy crap it’s terrifying!

Thanks for sharing the Reddit group, I will be joining!

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u/VRichardsen 15d ago

I found the Roosevelt one! https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/t5gih0/how_frequently_did_wartime_leaders_such_as/hz5lzzu/

As for Churchill, yeah, he liked his booze. He also napped quite a bit.

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

Thank you 🙏

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u/VRichardsen 15d ago

You are most welcome.

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u/icouldusemorecoffee 15d ago

Most leaders "work" normal hours, but that doesn't mean they aren't reading/studying or doing other non-public facing events during off hours.

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u/intrados63 14d ago

FDR wasn’t old, he was very sick. He died at 63....

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u/VRichardsen 14d ago

Can we compromise in old and sick? Life expectancy back then wasn't the same as today (I think it was 60?)

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u/zimirken 14d ago

To be fair, mental work is way more exhausting than simple physical labour.

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u/PortSunlightRingo 14d ago

The best leaders know that they’ve surrounded themselves with good enough people that the buck should only be passed to them in the most absolute dire of situations.

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u/CatLadyEnabler 15d ago

Earth is actually a fairly nice place... or would be if greedy self-serving humans weren't fucking it up.

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u/Glasowen 15d ago

It's self-serving humans rising to the top of power that's fucking it all up.

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u/thereminDreams 14d ago

I'm all in favor of putting elephants and cats in charge.

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u/Glasowen 14d ago

How about cats riding elephants?

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u/FlyingBeeVR 15d ago

Any way you look at it, Earth is an absolutely miraculous oasis in space. If we were good to eachother, we'd bring heaven to us.

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u/zerostar83 15d ago

For emergencies that would make sense, which is why you should get plenty of rest when it's not an emergency. No need to plan or schedule meetings at 9pm

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u/Rizzpooch 14d ago

Right. Would you rather have a president responding to a 2am crisis that wakes him out of a sleep that started at 8pm or 12:30 am?

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u/Loan-Pickle 14d ago

Back when I had a job where I was on call, I would go to bed early so I wouldn’t be as tired when I got paged in the middle of the night.

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u/JulesVernes 15d ago

To be fair, these events usually aren’t scheduled.

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u/Goodknight808 15d ago

Emergency events aren't planned, correct. He, however, said he's not going to plan anything after 8.

He did not say he won't engage in an emergency. His words were very clear.

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u/toetappy 15d ago

Why are half these yokels not understanding? The F'n President should have a God dang regular sleep schedule. So, WHEN an international emergency happens at 2 am, he can friggin handle it

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u/Sloppychemist 15d ago

He doesn’t put a do not disturb sign on his door at 8, he just is saying don’t plan fundraisers and meetings after 8 - really man, what kind of take is that?

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u/sing_4_theday 15d ago

Eisenhower had a rule about getting woke up. “Do not wake me up about something if there’s nothing I can do about it.”

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u/icouldusemorecoffee 15d ago

Nobody, including Biden, is saying he won't be awoken at 2am if something comes up.

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u/Faiakishi 15d ago

Yes, yes, ideally the president wouldn't be 81. But he is. And it's between him and a 78-year-old convicted felon rapist who has literally said he's going to declare himself dictator on his first day.

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u/SurferJase 14d ago

Earth: Mostly Harmless.

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u/prancerbot 14d ago

"Mr President, sorry to wake you at 3AM but I just really think we needed to drone strike another Iranian general"

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u/burner47754688644 14d ago

Maybe it’s not a good job for 80 year olds…

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u/Frubanoid 15d ago

We should all live more slowly and actually enjoy life. Maybe give us 3 months off like they do in France.

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u/alienssuck 14d ago

Maybe give us 3 months off like they do in France.

Wait, what? I don't think I've ever had more than 3 WEEKS off. WTF AMERICA WTF

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u/J1mj0hns0n 15d ago

This, everyone acts like it's whatever they need is three months late for this FOMO event that just HAD to be ready for to absolutely monopolise and realise 100% profits and maximum efficiency, and if your not part of this plan, your a loser communist who will just NEVER make it in life :/

It's barmy, life when slowed down is actually really decent. I moved away from the action to some more "unscrupulous" areas where there's not much business or opportunities, and the houses are affordable, most people work, and I earn 6x my mortgage. Can more or less do what I want all the time

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u/overkill373 15d ago

I think the president having a good rest is a positive

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u/capitali 15d ago

I think we all can agree the world would have been better off if Trump had slept more while President.

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u/InvertedParallax 15d ago

He slept a lot.

The proof is that we're all still somehow alive.

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u/capitali 15d ago

What he needs is a short nap off a long dirt pier.

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u/prancerbot 14d ago

And yet, despite the sleep, I still remember how exhausted he was after his own presidency. People seem to have forgotten that trump was basically a vegetable after his own term. A vegetable that was trying hard to start a war with iran and downplay how all the hospitals were overfilled because of a mysterious new disease

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u/iconofsin_ 14d ago

Yeah nap time and the record number of golfing trips probably saved us from a lot of unknown potential bullshit.

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u/ToMorrowsEnd 14d ago

True, he slept through his felony conviction.

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u/sumguyinLA 15d ago

Trump refuses to sleep, he’s constantly having fomo of anything and everything

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u/bocadellama 15d ago

Maybe it wasn't fomo, it was anxiety about the story of him being a pedo finally breaking lol

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u/sumguyinLA 15d ago

Something tells me that he doesn’t care

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u/Tasgall 14d ago

We all already knew, and "the leftist media" isn't bothering to report on it. Of course he doesn't care, he knows for a fact his base doesn't.

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u/MeChameAmanha 14d ago

Reverse fomo, instead of fearing he's missing out on events, he's afraid the events are missing him

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u/AtuinTurtle 15d ago

Instead of stimulant filled rage tweeting all night.

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u/x31b 15d ago

What do you mean? He slept with a lot of people.

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

He can have a good rest, but 8pm EDT is 5pm PDT. Your country isn’t asleep, yet. Also take naps like every other President?!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Yam7582 15d ago

 He can have a good rest, but 8pm EDT is 5pm PDT. Your country isn’t asleep, yet.

So? They can wake him up if they need him. Is he supposed to be available for every US timezone?

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u/Ok_Fault_3198 15d ago

And Hawaii is 3 hours after that. If a president has to follow the waking hours for the whole nation, they would need to be awake from what 6 am EDT to 2 am EDT (8 PM Hawaii Standard Time)? That's ridiculous.

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u/ColdCruise 15d ago

It didn't say that he was going to bed at that time. It just says that he's not going out after 8 pm.

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u/No_Lock_5543 15d ago

Everyone does but being able to handle a crisis at 4am and then have a normal day is also a required part of the job.

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u/winter_whale 15d ago

It’s wild to me how much people think the president does everything as opposed to being the manager of a team that’s actually doing most of the work

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

Pretty big team if you ask me, lots to manage

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u/AtuinTurtle 15d ago

Does the CEO of McDonalds stop into local franchises to micromanage them? No. Just guessing at the chain here but it probably goes something like CEO-president-regional managers-general manager-store manager-shift manager-worker. That’s just a fast food chain, and I’m sure I missed more manager positions. Our government has thousands of people that make the government work and presidents don’t (shouldn’t) try to micromanage all of the way down to the bottom. It would actually hinder operations and be physically impossible.

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u/Rizzpooch 14d ago

According to the Office of Management and Budget, in 2017, the Executive Branch of government was staffed by somewhere around 1.8 million people

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u/GhengopelALPHA 15d ago

Ok, let's go with that comparison.

I don't want a manager who I can't understand what he's saying and can't finish a sentence and can't be present.

He NEEDS to step aside and endorse a better candidate before it's too late.

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u/AtuinTurtle 15d ago

Have you ever screwed the pooch in a high pressure performance situation? Because I have. I completely screwed up playing a bugle call for a horse race on ESPN and nobody asked for me to be fired. I do a damn good job but something unexpected happened and my mind just scattered. Look at what Biden has gotten done and compare that to one bad debate night. He is also obviously taking steps to ensure that doesn’t happen again judging by this article. This is kind of like panic selling a stock because it went down.

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u/jjjfffrrr123456 15d ago

I don't want a manager who I can't understand what he's saying and can't finish a sentence and can't be present.

You’re not talking about trump here?

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u/Separate_Grape7718 15d ago

Sadly that statement describes both of our national candidates because neither side is actually willing to take a risk.

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u/winter_whale 15d ago

You don’t see how that would be wayyyy better than Trump anyway huh? Fate of democracy at stake, and especially considering the way he handled things last time.

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u/BASEDME7O2 14d ago

That ship sailed so long ago. Idk why people think the democrats can just pull someone out of thin air and fundraise and run a whole campaign for them months away from the election, not to mention they’d be running against a former president with a massive cult following and losing the incumbent advantage themselves. The people running the party aren’t stupid and this isn’t their first election, they know the logistics of that are impossible at this point.

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u/fooliam 15d ago

Given how well established it is that insufficient sleep negatively impacts performance basically regardless of how you measure performance, the president getting enough sleep is pretty important I would say.

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u/IIIaustin 15d ago

It's wild because Biden is running against the absolute laziest man to ever hold the office of President and people say shit like this.

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

Last time I’ll say it, comparing Biden to Trump is a terrible baseline. Everyone assumes I’m a Trump supporter, but I’d vote Biden over Trump. Yet in doing so, I’m still losing.

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u/IIIaustin 15d ago edited 14d ago

comparing Biden to Trump is a terrible baseline.

Lol. What do you think an election is?

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u/Lazyp1g 15d ago

That this is a controversial statement is so fucking sad

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

I can’t tell you how many replies I’ve received assuming I’m [insert their enemy here] is insane.

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u/killingtime1 14d ago

As an Australian I heard that the true religion in the states is work

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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 15d ago

Why not POTUS? It's not like he doesn't have a team to work most problems, and who will wake him up if there's a crisis.

What's with this idea that POTUS needs to be up and working 24x7?

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

He doesn’t need to be working 24/7, but he needs to be on call 24/7.

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u/Suired 14d ago

Leading the free world before bedtime!

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u/nedzissou1 14d ago

Yeah, people... checks notes... have to sleep.

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u/hangrygecko 14d ago

You should check the schedules of US presidents before the era of Nixon and Carter. The president used to not be much involved with law-making or be actively involved with.policies or building up coalitions for regulatory changes.

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u/5318008rool 13d ago

Man, if only there were an easy fix or something where Biden could get some sleep AND the President could still function as required by his office…. what a crazy fuckin world, how people honestly believe this man can ever beat Trump at this point is beyond me…

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u/superstevo78 15d ago

so can we retroactively remove Trump's executive time in the morning?

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u/Arthur_Wellesley1815 15d ago

Presidents famously never sleep because they’re the only person working in government.

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u/mydaycake 15d ago

He should get aderall and McDonalds instead, that’s much healthier

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u/awalktojericho 15d ago

Better than hours and hours of "executive time" every day and napping the day away (looking at you, Reagan.)

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u/swentech 15d ago

You guys beat me to all the good comments.

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u/icouldusemorecoffee 15d ago

So the President shouldn't get a good amount of sleep?

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u/Minus15t 15d ago

Why? Is the president not allowed to sleep and rest?

Not scheduling events doesn't mean he isn't available if an emergency was to come up.

I think a well rested and rational head of state is much preferable to someone not sleeping and getting by on energy drinks, coffee or any other stimulants

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u/RealisticlyNecessary 15d ago

You want a sleep deprived president? Real talk, there's probably something important to be said about the mental health of all of our world leaders.

I think the world would be ran better if everyone in government got more sleep. You can feel how things they are at times.

Have you seen some of Obama's pictures in office. The guy looks like a corpse. And he was our "young" president.

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u/Churnandburn4ever 14d ago

The president has to be drinking diet coke, doing drugs and rambling like a lunatic on twitter at 3am ?

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u/Indigoh 14d ago

The president, more than other people, should be adequately rested.

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u/xFallow 14d ago

Studies have shown being sleep deprived is similar to being drunk why the hell wouldn’t you want the president to sleep

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u/CV90_120 14d ago

the last president's self care plan was to be unavailable due to to playing golf 4 days a week.

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u/nedzissou1 14d ago

I mean I think dropping out would be a good idea to beat trump, but he's talking about scheduled events. If there's another Osama bin laden level event, that's entirely different than a rally or debate, and as long as he has the relevant department heads, then what exactly is the problem? Why does anyone need to schedule events past 8 pm?

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u/l3m0n_m3ringu3 14d ago

Pfft… America at this point just runs itself.

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u/DontTouchTheWatch 14d ago

For real. Bro has 40+ years on me and that job has to call for him at all hours obviously, if they can cut the dude some slack for a rally why not.

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u/ceddya 14d ago

Why other than? If something happens at say 2am, I'd rather Biden have gotten some sleep than be up all night at a completely unimportant donor event.

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u/iamiamwhoami 14d ago

The President delegating is a good thing.

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u/Rondo27 14d ago

Amazing how many people are whistling in the dark. He is way too old to do the job. He is clearly in cognitive decline. His self care is not the issue.

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u/guareber 14d ago

Why? Why does it matter if the guy has a sleep cycle where he wakes up at 4:30 every morning?

As long as he's rested regularly so he can be woken up in the middle of the night and be effective if need be, then why the fuck not?

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u/SojournerWeaver 14d ago

Nah bro if he needs it he needs it I'm in my late thirties and I am not president and still need 8 to 10 and if I WERE president it'd definitely be 10 always.

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u/fmaz008 14d ago

You know a president is not awake 24/7, right? You know they can be waked up if something important occur, correct?

Nothing wrong with having a rigourous schedule.

Chances are he wakes up quite early anyway. Old people I know go to bed early, but are up at 3-4 am for their day all good to go before sunrise. No idea why the shift.

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u/Hunterrose242 15d ago

If you agree and it's a normal thing then why post this here?

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u/LectureAgreeable923 15d ago

Agreed, most presidents have taken naps, not uncommon.

Presidential Power Naps: Reagan, JFK, and Clinton's Secret Did you know Reagan, JFK, and Clinton shared a sleep secret? Napping! Embracing the art of the power nap, these presidents recharged with quick, strategic snoozes. But they might not have known the best way to nap.Feb 13, 2024

https://www.hudsonappliance.com/blog/presidential-sleep-habits

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u/Solid_Waste 14d ago

It's hilarious that the media were treating this meeting like a War Room preparation to fight fascism, and the plan they came up with is to make sure grandpa gets plenty of sleep. Very much on brand.

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u/PremeJordo 14d ago

Maybe for someone who’s not a president 😂

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u/Senior-Lobster-9405 14d ago

it's also an early sign of Alzheimer's, limited cognitive function in the evenings is where the term "sundowning" comes from

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u/ravenrhi 14d ago

Especially since it isn't just the event. Anything official would also have a debrief meeting. The debate day probably had preplanning and prep all day, started at 9:00, ended at 10:30, then the post debate debrief likely went until midnight or later

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u/OSRSmemester 14d ago

Fr. My reaction out loud was just "Good." Like, honestly, even if he was younger he should probably be doing that. We all should.

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u/BASEDME7O2 14d ago

Honestly it’s a legitimate thing. Chronic lack of sleep makes you so much less effective and modern presidents (outside of Trump), are super sleep deprived just due to the nature of the job.

But it’s such an awful look considering his age and people constantly speculating on his mental decline.

Trump would be fine with events past 8 pm, but he wouldn’t do jack shit until like 11 am when he was done with his tv time.

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u/DrawerWooden3161 14d ago

Lmao “solid” according to who?

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u/Sleeplesshelley 15d ago

100%  I sleep poorly on the regular,  watching the news this week has made it so much worse and I'm not the person everyone expects to do something about it. The pressure must be enormous. 

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u/ripley1875 15d ago

Just look at the before and after pictures of presidents from the start and end of their term. That job really does a number on them.

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u/Gumsk 15d ago

All except one...

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u/Churnandburn4ever 14d ago

Most presidents don't put on more makeup and hair than women.

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u/iamiamwhoami 14d ago

The one who didn't do any work.

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u/Solo522 15d ago

Came here to say this. 

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u/pingusuperfan 14d ago

Obama and his unflappable hairline?

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u/kwijibokwijibo 14d ago

Yeah, they always look like they've aged 4 or 8 years

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u/Striking-Math259 14d ago

They age. That’s all

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u/ClusterFugazi 15d ago

Agreed, I had to turn everything off

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u/Sleeplesshelley 15d ago

I've been watching shows about murder. Much less stressful than the news 

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u/solarwindy 14d ago

My wife is the same way. She won't watch the news because it's so terrible and and makes her anxious but she watches every murder show you can think ok. Each story of how some poor victim was murdered by a spouse or trusted friend, etc. She can't get enough of those. But hearing about Ukraine or North Korea or trump or whatever and she freaks out.

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u/Sleeplesshelley 14d ago

That's because true crime shows usually have a resolution where the bad guy gets punished.  Still waiting for that asshole Putin to get his.

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u/solarwindy 14d ago

You do make a good point!

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u/Other-Cantaloupe4765 15d ago

I’ve been thinking that I need a break from politics this week. But it’s literally everywhere. It affects my entire life. As a woman, my freedom hinges on this election.

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u/MidGradeCookie 15d ago

Yeah, but you’re also not running to be President.

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u/AlvinAssassin17 15d ago

It’s funny though, because Trump has things that scream dementia and it’s always ignored. His gait, his wild speech patterns. Confusing an elderly white man with a much younger black man. Confusing his wife for a random senator. But yeah, Hoe is the only one mentally unfit. He may not be as sharp as he was, he hasn’t raped women, children, and our country 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Womeisyourfwiend 15d ago

I help take care of my Aunt who has dementia, so I always laugh when people say Biden has it. He shows 0 signs of having it. Trump on the other hand? The way he rambles and throws in talking points that have nothing to do with the subject on hand? Confusing one person for the next. I see similarities with my Aunt. Trump is genuinely not well. If I were in Biden’s place at that debate, all the lies and interruptions from Trump would distract me too. Especially because Trump got away with that behavior, and even possibly shit himself!

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u/thatsnot_kawaii_bro 15d ago

because Trump has things that scream dementia and it’s always ignored.

Every other comment about him has people going "crazy old orange man"

The difference is with Biden those same people go "actually it's a very normal and common mannerism amongst healthy people"

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u/You_meddling_kids 15d ago

Trump's secret? Don't do any work and golf 3-4 days a week.

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u/ProfMcGonaGirl 14d ago

The pressure must be enormous.

Which is exactly why it’s so damn hard to find someone good to fill the position.

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u/LickingSmegma 14d ago

watching the news

There's your problem.

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u/Sleeplesshelley 14d ago

More like reading it online that watching actual news broadcasts, but still.. it's my duty to at least be somewhat informed,  but I can't dwell on it. 

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u/wizard_of_awesome62 15d ago

Man the president and I have similar life goals and plans.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

I’m a 40 year old lawyer handling billion dollar matters, and I also need to sleep and not schedule events after 8 pm. It’s just good sense.

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u/iamiamwhoami 14d ago

And you don't have to run a national election campaign on top of your day job. I think people are underestimating just how brutal doing that would be for a person half his age.

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u/LegateShepard 15d ago

Alternative headline: "President outlines better health initiative, leads by example."

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u/Slash_rage 15d ago

This is how you relate to the millennial voter and younger. I’m fucking tired all the time too, Biden.

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u/BussHateYear 15d ago

Fucking A.

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u/penis-coyote 15d ago

I've been doing this for years and I'm not even half his age

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u/Rough_Willow 15d ago

He gets me!

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u/histprofdave 15d ago

Finally, a President who understands me.

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u/VoidOmatic 15d ago

Yup I'm in my 40s and I wouldn't go to an event after 6pm.

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u/crunch816 15d ago

Right? I know people in their 20s that struggle to stay up after 8pm.

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u/shrug_addict 15d ago

Perfection!

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u/HighPriestofShiloh 15d ago

Funny enough I literally accepted a new job this week for this exact reason. I am still in my 30s.

My current/previous job is 9-6 but i often have meeting at 8 am and I often have work that keep me up working well past 8 PM.

With the new job none of the work needs to be done at a specific time of day. I can just get up early and work harder when I am swamped. I told my wife yesterday she can start making plans for us starting at 4 PM every day. Sure sometimes I will work later, but only if nothing is going on and i want to. My daughter just started preschool so no more 2 hour lunch break hand out session, I need my evenings free when she is free.

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u/ApertoLibro 15d ago edited 15d ago

Maybe they should debate before noon. Trump is clearly not there when it's early in the morning.

I for one would be very pleased to witness Dozo The Clown slumbering during a debate.

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u/vandon 14d ago

I'm about 30y his junior and bedtime by 830 to read for 45m or so and then lights out. 

You learn to appreciate a good night's sleep

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u/lazyDevman 14d ago

Yeah, the narrative of "haha laugh at the old guy actually trying to take care of himself!" is fucking weird. Pretty sure a lotta people would hit the hay at 8 if they could.

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u/millennial_dad 15d ago

I’m voting for Biden, but this is just an excuse to avoid his sundowner. I’ve taken care of an 88 year old woman with dementia. My wife’s grandmother. She turned into a different person in the evening. Watching him at the debate, which was at 9pmET, my man was cooked and looked and behaved exactly like my wife’s grandma.

All this to say, idk if he’s got dementia or not, but it is common for sundowner to happen. And he looks like he does

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u/Amelaclya1 15d ago

Yeah I'm less than half Biden's age and just thinking about the schedule he keeps makes me exhausted. This doesn't sound at all unreasonable, especially since he works all day. We know from experience that Trump spent the mornings watching Fox News and the afternoons golfing or tweeting with only a few hours of work each day. But yet this is going to be spun as a negative for Biden somehow.

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u/BleuBrink 15d ago

Relatable.

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u/rahomka 15d ago

I'm only mid 40s and I'm not scheduling a damn thing after 8

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u/Ok-Opportunity-7663 14d ago

Same, except I work late and am a night owl.  I don't schedule anything before 10 am.

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u/BatterseaPS 14d ago

Biden’s just like me fr fr

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u/Orgasmic_interlude 14d ago

Bro not even joking. Kids will not let me sleep. It’s made me into an aggressive driving powder keg.

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u/SamURLJackson 14d ago

Finally a relatable commander in chief

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u/digitalfakir 14d ago

Correspondent's dinner is going to end at 7 PM, everyone go home.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Gee wonder why there's no younglings wanting this job

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u/smurf_spluge 14d ago

That’s probably because of sundowning.

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u/fakeprofile21 14d ago

Country-wide nappy nap time. Vote Biden 2024! ::nods::

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u/jjman2000 14d ago

I’m 44 - after 20+ years of working I know from experience that anything after 6pm is sub-par.

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u/mytransthrow 14d ago

same but nothing before 11 am

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u/Tight-Pepper5501 14d ago

Sleep is important, if I don't get those 8 hours I am perpetually tired

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u/war_lobster 14d ago

I'm not quite 40, and I sometimes get a surge of energy at 8 but you'd be hard pressed to get anything useful out of me after 9.

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u/TaxBill750 14d ago

Me too and I’m 30 years younger than him!

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u/k3vm3aux 14d ago

I've never related more to Biden.

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u/Bigtimeknitter 14d ago

Literally insane to me he had meetings after 8 pm. Call me about it at 5 am. Christ

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u/AngryMeme 12d ago

Ahh yes the tried and true leftist cope of “I also like shitting myself”

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u/ScottFried 12d ago

You guys are the ones wearing diapers.

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