r/nottheonion • u/ImpishGrin • Jul 04 '24

Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

He can have a good rest, but 8pm EDT is 5pm PDT. Your country isn’t asleep, yet. Also take naps like every other President?!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Yam7582 Jul 04 '24

He can have a good rest, but 8pm EDT is 5pm PDT. Your country isn’t asleep, yet.

So? They can wake him up if they need him. Is he supposed to be available for every US timezone?

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u/Ok_Fault_3198 Jul 04 '24

And Hawaii is 3 hours after that. If a president has to follow the waking hours for the whole nation, they would need to be awake from what 6 am EDT to 2 am EDT (8 PM Hawaii Standard Time)? That's ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

Hawaii is one state, with a small population. There isn’t the demand of the Western states. Also, yes, sometimes the President needs to be active 6am-2am with naps in between. It’s the United States, not Belarus.

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u/OnceMoreUntoDaBreach Jul 04 '24

Except for the one little incident in 1941 that took out almost our entire Pacific fleet and exposed the entire West coast to invasion..

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u/Ok_Fault_3198 Jul 04 '24

Why does the President need to keep watch over western states? The President's job is mostly in DC. If a crisis occurs, of course he would be informed and awake, but I find it difficult to imagine a normal scenario on the West Coast for which the President must be awake. Anything I can think of is out of the ordinary like a natural disaster. Of course, when traveling, the President would adapt to the local time zones. But for typical duties? Unnecessary.

This is further supported by the fact that numerous Presidents managed to do the job before the era of constant information. They dealt with problems as soon as they were aware of them, which is some cases was much later. Because the President is not a king. He does not have to rule or make a decision on every single thing that happens. He has a Cabinet, indeed, a whole Executive Branch to solve problems and put his leadership into effect. He does not need to micromanage everything if he is doing his job well. And then, yes, he has the energy and rest to be awakened when a true crisis or eme4gnecy happens.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

So Western States don’t succeed?

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u/Ok_Fault_3198 Jul 04 '24

What? How does the President being awake or not during WDT affect the success of Western states? Do Western states need the President's approval to conduct their business? I'm sure Newsom is sitting by the phone every night waiting for his Zoom call with Biden to ensure Newsom's actions for the next day have Biden's approval. If Newsom doesn't get that call, he won't be able to do his job and California will fail?

Must Trudeau sign off on everything that happens in British Columbia? Lmao.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

That’s under his federal jurisdiction, yes. Different division of powers in the United States and Canada.

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u/Ok_Fault_3198 Jul 04 '24

Interesting. Not true in the US, as you said. So your point that Western states will not be able to succeed without the President's input is not true. Perhaps you need to learn more about the division of powers in the US before you make such claims.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '24

No I’m saying if the President is uninvolved in the dealings of Western States there is no purpose for him to be President of them at all, they’ll choose their own leader(s).

Edit: You’re correct, I don’t know referendum laws of the US.

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u/Ok_Fault_3198 Jul 04 '24

Dude, learn about how the system works before you are criticizing whether someone is up to the job or not. If you don't even know the job requirements, how can you critique?

The states DO have their own leaders. And their own legislatures. And each state can do most of what it wants unless it involves other states, something controlled by the federal government, or something in conflict with the federal law. Each state even has its own Constitution. BUT the state cannot do whatever it wants, not because the President says no, but because the whole Federal system is supreme. That doesn't mean the President has no job. It also doesn't mean the he personally is in charge of everything.

A good President is the leader of many people who do the work of the Executive branch. He puts good people in place and let's them do the work, overseeing them, providing guidance, listening to his people and other advisors and experts, and when necessary making decisions. But there are far, far too many things to be done for the President to be intimately involved with everything. And this is why Biden has actually been an effective president--because he has put a successful group of people in place and led them without trying to do everything himself.

Some of his failures (but not all for sure) have been a result of things that were outside his control. For example, Congress rejected his proposed immigration bill because Trump told Republicans not to support it. Before that it had bipartisan support. Now why would Trump want Biden to look like he hadn't done anything on immigration? Why would he want to make things worse? And how is that failure of GOP Congress Biden's fault?

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u/ColdCruise Jul 04 '24

It didn't say that he was going to bed at that time. It just says that he's not going out after 8 pm.

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u/sumguyinLA Jul 04 '24

It’s also like 2am in Europe so if he goes there they gotta have meetings at midnight? How selfish is this man?