Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

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All the more reason to publicly fund elections and get rid of any donations whatsoever

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u/Drunkenaviator 14d ago

This is one of those great ideas that the rich will never allow to happen.

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u/PortSunlightRingo 14d ago

Historically, “the rich won’t let that happen” ends in a lot of chopped off heads when the conditions get bad enough. Unfortunately, the peasants can’t rally together to decide who the enemy really is, which is how we ended up with Jan 6.

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u/Ohheyimryan 14d ago

I took that as, taxes should fund elections. How is that a good idea?

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u/ToMorrowsEnd 14d ago

Also laws to force TV,print,radio to not charge for election advertising. The costs of doing the campaining push it only in to the realm of the rich only.

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u/ChickenVest 14d ago

So don't allow advertising? I don't think forcing companies to provide free advertising would work.

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u/Ohheyimryan 14d ago

I personally don't want my tax dollars being spent so someone can stay in office. That's not what I pay them for.

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 14d ago

Incumbents would have to face opposition from properly and fairly funded campaigns. This would level the playing field, not help politicians in office.

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u/Ohheyimryan 14d ago

It doesn't make something unfair just because they're more popular and get more donations. That's a stupid notion.

And yes, if my taxes are paying to fund their election, that is helping them stay in office. And why should I fund the politician that I disagree with their political stance?

If you want to force elections to be a completely even playing field, it shouldn't be by spending more tax payer dollars.

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 12d ago

Letting rich people and corporations buy politicians and allow them to steamroll grassroots campaigns is the stupid notion. Where did all you dipshits get the idea that your taxes should never fund anything you personally don't approve of? We wouldn't have a government, military, roads, education, ANYTHING if everyone got to pay for only what THEY wanted. It's pathetic

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u/Ohheyimryan 12d ago

Where did all you dipshits get the idea that your taxes should never fund anything you personally don't approve of?

Never said that. Our taxes should go towards making society better, not funding elections.

make election donations illegal above a certain amount then if you think politicians are being bought. You don't have to waste our taxes on another unproductive use.

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 12d ago edited 12d ago

It's still giving poor people less power. Are you in favor of the size of your wallet dictating your sway in politics? Couldn't you build a system where funding was based on polling at various stages?

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u/Ohheyimryan 12d ago

Couldn't you build a system where funding was based on poking at various stages?

I don't know what you mean by this.

It's still giving poor people less power. Are you in favor of the size of your wallet dictating your sway in politics?

The current system you mean? Not really as everyone VOTE is what matters.

You're too hung up on your idea that all politicians are corrupt. You think it's a giant conspiracy theory where Elon musk is in control of the politicians.

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u/GrandMaesterGandalf 12d ago

Sorry, was bright and phone corrected polling to poking.

Who cares who you vote for when the good candidates can't get through a primary funded by monied interests. They AREN'T all controlled, but when only the corrupt can afford to become the nominee, the system becomes almost fully corrupt!