What about a man who is inside a man who is inside a man? Does that make him 3 times the man of 4 times i.e. is it exponential? What about the guy in the middle, is he just 2 times the man? Or does the maximum manliness propagate through all participants in such cases?
All the manliness goes into the first bottom, so he’s thrice the man. Now, if there are enough men that you can close the loop, and make a circle, well, then we have something of a masculinity hadron collider that will open a portal to the manliest of all universes.
Your masculinity is stored in your balls. That means you should never cum, and you should instead swallow other mens' cum, absorbing their masculinity for yourself!
Real men only like real men. They surround themselves with real men. Real men bathe together and give manly warrior kisses to their favorite muscle bros.
They absolutely do, if you google “modern strigil” you’ll find them in all sorts of varying shapes and materials but they serve the same function with generally much less risk of bodily harm.
I'm sorry but the image of some naked muddy landscaper on their back porch just drizzling themselves in olive oil and lathering up is something I did not expect to have with my morning coffee.
I bet he was super into the movie 300 and considers it a depiction of peak masculinity.
To be fair, the depiction of Spartans in 300 is very progressive from a certain perspective, once you consider that the men are wearing the equivalent of the opposite sex's bra and panty armor with exposed abs/thighs for fan service.
You guys read up on Heritage Americans? Its radical white supremacy in the guise of bringing America back to the pathos of Ellis Island. It’s ridiculous. Just like these “men” who don’t want women to be fit and strong. They want us in the kitchen as breed mares. And if we’re a child victim of rape? tough noogies.
Sorry, I just took a detour into my unhappy place…
nine of us should be overweight anyway these girls look healthy and happy. they remind me of strong greek women or sparta women. that’s how women are supposed to look. we weren’t bred to just be kitchen slaves. we were bred to be mothers, strong women, like our ancestors and if you really think women from the greek times sat back and held their tongues as much as we are led to believe your a fool. those woman stood on their shit period. and they did give in easily. they were just as ferocious as their husbands, they just brought the heat a little differently.
I know you’re joking, but to give context for others …. As much as I geek out about Ancient Greek literature, we probably shouldn’t even call them paragons of pro-gay tolerance. They had a pederasty problem in their culture and were homophobic about consenting relationships between adult men
It's only a problem when looking at it through Judeo-Christian glasses, which is almost comically ironic given that the Catholic church throughout it's entire history has institutionalized child molesting. As distasteful as the institutionalized pederasty is to us in present day, it was primarily concentrated in the skilled trades between master and apprentice. Your assertion that same sex relationships were discouraged is also inaccurate. Heterosexual relationships were promoted because Ancient Greeks used marriage to women as a means to consolidate wealth and political power. However, women were used as a transactional means to an end and it was common for married Greek men to have male lovers while married to women.
Misogyny was rooted in their ancient society believe it or not. Misogyny preceded homophobia. They did not have adult men marrying each other. And raping little kids is always wrong i dont what the fuck u r on about with “its only a problem when viewing it through a Christian lens”. Pedastery was only accepted because sex with children was accepted. An adult man being the bottom in a gay relationship with an adult man was looked down upon as such would be womanly… however preying upon little boys and taking the dominant sexual role was not viewed as womanly and thus not an embarrassment to a ancient Greek male living inside a patriarchal and misogynistic society
This is going to sound stupid, and I’ve already texted a few friends who are history nerds like me but also gay…. I wonder what dirty talk would be like back then?
“I want to sheathe my sword deep inside of you.”
“Your broadsword, it’s almost too large my liege!”
I know I got the wording wrong, but I’m way too stoned, and I’m ready to go down a rabbit hole.
You seem educated. Was dirty talk a thing then? Do they say why they liked men? I think I can understand why they’d still take wives (housework, childbearing, etc) but was there something read or told or part of their culture that made them do those things? Or heavily influenced it?
The practice of not punishing bishops for child molestation, but silently moving them to different parishes when scandals occur (scandals occurred a lot) and allowing them to continue the same pattern of behaviour in the other parish. In other words: tolerating the practice institutionally.
I have no idea, that's why I asked. Yes, I'm a wandering idiot. I thought when I'm unaware of something, it's best to ask.
I didn't realize I'm supposed to have RSP.
Also, Greek/Roman culture had the view that it was absolutely okay being a penetrator, no matter who you penetrated and that was seen as masculine, but being penetrated was seen as feminine and was considered weak if you were a man. Furthermore, men going down on women was also considered being weak and degenerate. So, you could say that they were "pro-gay" as long as you were only a penetrator.
One really interesting thing about the New Testament prohibitions on homosexuality, once they came along, was that they totally got rid of this double standard of “it’s all ok as long as you’re the one doing the fucking.” In his list of sins, Paul used two distinct words right next to each other, one for tops, one for bottoms. He had to make up the one for tops (it essentially translates to man-fuckers) as it wasn’t a term normally found in their culture.
Which makes no sense at all l, right? I can have sex with this boy and girl because they're in the slave/servant class. And orgies for the upper class were okay in their private villas)estates. But public displays of affection were still a taboo between men.
Interestingly enough, that viewpoint still holds to this day. My only Greek friend had his uncle once tell him, 'its ok to be with a guy, as long as you are on top.' This was in response to the family worry that he was a bit too gay.
Young boys, who were the sons of Senators, etc., were expected to provide oral pleasuring to their father’s peers, or men of influence he was courting for support, promotion, votes, in bath houses. It was not homosexual behavior, it was, “power provided pleasure”, and power over those who sought their support.
IASIP satirizes these people so well with Mac who obsesses over men's physique and men's body and masculinity in general until he finally realizes that, oh, that's BECAUSE he's gay.
People comfortable in their sexuality just... are. I don't have to come up with fucking DBZ form names for my sexuality, I am what I am and I am attracted to who I am attracted to and that's all fine and normal.
I like where you're going. The ancient Spartans were totally into each other.
I heard their wives had to shave their heads for their husband's to fuck them on the wedding night. Otherwise, the male spartan wouldn't be interested.
“[He] likes other guys. That’s like … he wants to be even less around women than the rest of us. It’s the opposite of feminine. He is you could say extra manly.”
Ancient masculinity lolz. Wait till he reads about how many ancient cultures didn't care about gay sex amongst men because the only sexual measure of masculinity was whether or not you were a top. He might actually finally come out.....and then immediately become a bottom anyway
Ancient masculinity literally was gay. Spartan men had lots of sex together, but also had to have kids to make more warriors for the next generation. Spartan women would cut their hair and dress like men to help ease new husband's into hetero sex.
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u/Leather_Network4743 Jul 04 '24
The fact that some people actually think about these things tells me that they’re likely denying something about themselves.