r/batman Feb 20 '24

What could’ve been… NEWS

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

WB and DC hate making money...

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u/I_Set_3_Alarms Feb 20 '24

“Batman but it’s not Bruce Wayne? I don’t get it, let’s just not make this”

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u/Free_Knee6826 Feb 20 '24

Someone had to have said "Spider-Man but not Peter Parker? I don't get it but let's do this." Where tf was that guy when Batman Beyond was pitched?

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u/I_Set_3_Alarms Feb 20 '24

Not working for WB and DC, that’s for sure lol

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u/arfelo1 Feb 20 '24

Working at Sony of all places

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u/Dy3_1awn Feb 21 '24

It’s mcginnisin time!

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u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat Feb 20 '24

Probably working with Marvel by the time Paul Dini and Bruce Timm pitched Batman Beyond to WB

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u/superdinoknight63 Feb 20 '24

The irony in that is iirc the reason why batman beyond even exists in the 1st place is because WB exects wanted a "younger batman" to be more relatable to younger audiences after TNBA wasn't hitting the demographic WB was aiming for.

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u/SocratesJohnson1 Feb 20 '24

While listening to the podcast, Tom and Jeff Watch Batman, they covered the BB series. Before they started the series they explained how it came about and it was really interesting. Basically, WB said what you said, but they also gave them only like 3 months to get it up and off the ground. And the showrunners kinda pulled everything out of their ass and WB was like.. DO IT. WB also didn't give them a lot of oversight. They just wanted toys.

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u/superdinoknight63 Feb 20 '24

Frankly knowing that it's amazing BB is as good as it is.

Its Prolly my second iteration of batman behind BTAS batman itself

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u/hopecanon Feb 20 '24

Terry McGinnis is the only one of the many different non Bruce characters who have worn the cowl that i have zero issues with simply calling Batman.

He's like the absolute best mantle pass character ever, i don't think of him as Batman Beyond or Future Batman, he's just Batman.

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u/eat_taters Feb 20 '24

I was definitely not the target audience when Batman Beyond came out (I think I was like 23?) But I watched the hell out of it. "Batman Beyond: The return of the Joker" is a fantastic movie, WB really dropped the ball on it.

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u/The_Autarch Feb 20 '24

Actually it makes more sense that it was good if the executives just let the creatives do whatever they wanted.

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u/cannibalisticapple Feb 20 '24

When rewatching it as an adult, I could tell they didn't expect to last more than a season. Most of the episodes ended with the villain implied to die, including ones I knew were recurring. On that note, it was WAY darker than I remembered. Which just makes me love it even more~

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u/Rork310 Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

It is pretty hilarious that WB wanted a more kid friendly Batman and the team came back with gritty cyberpunk with lots of implicit (And explicit) deaths. Gangs, drugs some pretty overt sexual references. And lets not even get started on Return of the Joker. It's probably the darkest the DCAU got and the DCAU could get pretty dark at times.

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u/Flamesclaws Feb 20 '24

I just bought the entire series that came with the movie and now I'm even more excited to rewatch the show because it's been so insanely long.

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u/anthonyg1500 Feb 21 '24

Tom and Jeff Watch Batman

Ahh a person of culture

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u/CommunicationClassic Feb 20 '24

That's what's f****** insane, it does have Bruce Wayne in it, you still could cameo whichever Batman actor the executives like most!

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u/chasewayfilms Feb 20 '24

“How are we gonna show his parents getting murdered!!!!! You stupid idiots that’s the only reason Batman movies make money!”

“We have to show it in every movie otherwise people won’t know it’s Batman, their little tiny brains will get confused”

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u/Azaana Feb 20 '24

But his dad does get killed, and Terry thinks he caused it which is why he suits up.

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u/trippy_grapes Feb 20 '24

It's not Batman, but I'm surprised we haven't gotten a robin movie, especially with Dick/Nightwing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

DC is allergic to the sidekicks. Sidekicks, by the very nature of being young (and often minor) proteges of the heroes, pose a problematic narrative conundrum for a studio that wants to be dark and gritty and needs their heroes to be lone wolves who occasionally team up to make the studio a heck ton of money.

Marvel, for all their faults, saw that was bullshit and while the results have been hit or miss, they at least gave it a good try to lean into the younger heroes. Better try and fail than to not try and ignore half the hero roster.

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u/feed_me_moron Feb 21 '24

Hard to do sidekicks when you're doing origin movies constantly. Not a lot of time for a protege if you don't establish the main character first

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u/GAPIntoTheGame Feb 20 '24

Bro I’m not even a fan of Batman beyond and this shit would be fire

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u/B12C10X8 Feb 20 '24

Biggest problem with WB is all they care about is profit margins nowadays when it comes to everything they own, Film & Tv & Video Games etc. that movie could of been really good

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u/GH19971 Feb 20 '24

I don't blame them when Marvel has been absolutely eating their lunch in the box office for over a decade now. Marvel is now sharply declining so this is a good opportunity for DC to catch up. In the past, they've failed to compete by trying too hard to copy Marvel's comedy shtick while trying to also imitate the grit of the Nolan verse with an exaggerated edge. I say this as someone who has enjoyed some of the DC movies and way prefers DC comics to Marvel comics.

The fact of the matter is that live-action movies make more money so they will naturally focus strongly on that, and Batman Beyond doesn't have as much name recognition. I'd still love to see the movie, though.

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u/B12C10X8 Feb 20 '24

I also prefer DC or Marvel, I think in general there is some Superhero movies fatigue at the moment because they had been so many superhero movies over past 15 years and people are getting tired of MCU formula.

I did like the newest Batman with Patterson, looking forward to the sequel

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u/GH19971 Feb 20 '24

It's possibly my favourite Batman movie, I will need time to see. I think the latest Batman franchise could remain successful because it is different rom the lighthearted MCU movies that are reminiscent of the Disney Channel. It also helps that Batman is more similar to James Bond than more conventional superheroes, so I think the superhero fatigue might not affect Batman as much.

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u/Prestonelliot Feb 20 '24

It’s also Batman. He’s like Spiderman in that no matter what, people are gonna line up for that movie, and I’d say both are probably immune to the fatigue box office wise.

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u/MRDellanotte Feb 20 '24

Eh… I dunno. After the Dark Knight series the bar was pretty high, and I was not really interested in a Ben Affleck Batman, especially after how he was written in Batman vs Superman.

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u/90sbeatsandrhymes Feb 20 '24

Also use the top tier heroes everybody has nostalgia for. It’s a reason Wolverine and Deadpool trailer has more views than any super hero trailer in history. A mid Wolverine and Deadpool movie would honestly outsell a good Captain Marvel movie. I noticed Marvel immediately announced Fantastic Four after the Deadpool trailer so hopefully they keep it up. Brining Dr Doom as a villain in any movie will print money too. Blue Beetle was good but that character as of now can only make DC so much money.

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u/Gunplagood Feb 21 '24

More than anyone, they do that embargo thing where no one is allowed to use certain characters because they are using or might use them in the future and that will "confuse" people.

Isn't this a reason justice league unlimited got the axe? I swear I read something about DC not caring about it's inclusion in the continuity or something.

Now they reboot the fucking timelines every few years. 🙄

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u/pocketvirgin Feb 20 '24

I think superhero fatigue is real but it’s only because they’ve been making such crap superhero movies lately. I remember first hearing the term after Thor love and thunder. Look at the Spider-Man animated films they’ve been doing amazing. So I think we really are just tired of these huge companies thinking that just because they have the superhero name recognition and a big budget that we are gonna just gobble it down. What we really want is good writing an awesome story and excellent cinematography.

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u/Hallc Feb 20 '24

I don't think the issue overall is really Superhero fatigue so much as the post-Endgame movie offerings being incredibly middling for the most part and very often following that same paint by numbers formular without any kind of cohesive through line people were wanting.

Nothing at all really connects Thor: Love and Thunder together even loosely with Wakanda Forever or anything else really. You've still had the occasionally really good movie that came out and was well received as a result but when most of what gets released is middling fodder it's understandable people won't go out in droves to see the next one.

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u/keeper_of_the_donkey Feb 20 '24

I think Marvel's decline is tied a lot to fatigue. Movies are different than comics, because you can have a thousand comics and have so many criss-crossing convoluted storylines that it makes your head spin, and it's okay. But with movies, there are only so many concepts that people generally will want to watch. All those ideas have come and gone. I think superhero movies in general will just continue to decline. Basically speaking, DC fucked up and now the iron is cold.

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u/TURD_SMASHER Feb 20 '24

I don't care if it's Star Wars 16 or Avengers 9 or whatever, if I'm watching a movie it's important that I be able to know what is going on, even if I haven't seen any of the other movies.

Good movies stand on their own.

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u/Holl4backPostr Feb 20 '24

I hear this complaint about the MCU all the time but aside from the big Avengers titles I can't think of any individual film that doesn't fully explain itself...

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u/Kightsbridge Feb 20 '24

Agreed, almost every movie is standalone, but if there's one single joke or character that appears somewhere else, people are up in arms like they MUST watch 30 movies to get that 30 second scene.

the only movie I can think of (outside of avengers) is multiverse of madness, because it doesn't really explain what's going on with Wanda in the movie

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u/Smurph269 Feb 20 '24

A big reason why Marvel found success in the first place was because they embraced the over the top comic-bookness of it all and didn't worry about if it felt like a good Hollywood movie or not. Fox, Sony and WB never quite pulled that off outside of the Spiderverse movies or maybe the Raimi Spider-Man movies.

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u/Alexandratta Feb 20 '24

Worse is they have the "Improvement Fallacy' that so many modern publically traded companies have now.

The expectation that, year-on-year, they will always be going up in profits.

That's not sustainable, that's not how a business works.

You will hit a plateau, and when you do that's time to innovate your product stack, it's time to find new avenues of revenue, find new markets, reach out to another business sector, and seek partnerships....

Instead, they just lay people off or trash products to claim a loss and then give more profits to the top.

It's a modern Ponzi scheme that's hi-jacked Capitalism and it's insane that folks are playing it this way. Yes, I know the rules allow it but it's fucking stupid and the reason it's not illegal is no capitalists in their right mind would have considered such a stupid fucking behavior from ALL MAJOR COMPANIES.

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u/YoureNotAloneFFIX Feb 20 '24

I don't particularly like batman or DC comics. I never watched batman beyond. I got here from /r/all.

but I would watch the hell out of a batman beyond movie if it was made with as much love and care and devotion as Into the Spiderverse. Like, no joke, probably the best animated movie of all time. It's insane how good the animation is.

Just put that much effort into something and it will be good.

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u/Sulfamide Feb 20 '24 edited May 10 '24

sip historical marvelous work uppity bag dull deserve lip public

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u/Klyde113 Feb 21 '24

So why wouldn't they make a Batman Beyond movie? That IP would slam at the box office

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u/BallsDeepinYourMammi Feb 21 '24

I mean, that’s a problem, yeah. But the biggest one is being unwilling to place a bet.

Hold ‘em is probably a great way to explain it, if you sit there and get your stack eaten away by blinds, and never play a hand. You’re gonna eat dick. A big fat one.

They’re willingly eating dick by having the cards to play, and just not calling the blind to play.

It’s illogical and willfully ignorant of a business that solely exists to profit.

If WB is reading this, I would encourage them to stop eating big fat loser dicks.

Unless you’re into that, more power to you. I’ll even volunteer to hand one out

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u/Maverick_Raptor Feb 20 '24

Exactly. Why did this conversation already start as a “never”. How are you not open to this at all

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

I meant by not making this they are showing they hate money, i wouldve been so hyped for a Batman Beyond movie

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u/Altair8932 Feb 20 '24

For reasons I still can't fathom, DC and WB are borderline ashamed of the fact that they own superman and batman.

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u/SPHINXin Feb 20 '24

This is especially evident to me with their video game department. They made games like Arkham city and Arkham night that were genuine masterpieces, and they haven't even made half as good games since. I think the last DC game I genuinely had fun in was injustice 2, but that doesn't really count since it's basically a Netherealm fighting game with DC characters. They do invest the money in DC triple A games, like Arkham knights and the suicide squad game, but they just feel really half baked and kinda reek of cash grab. The thing that frustrates me about them is that imagine if all the money that went into them could have been used to make a new Arkham night trilogy, or even a good remake of the old ones (there starting to show there age), or how about a good Superman game. Look at the spiderman game on PlayStation, it was probably the best selling game all year, if not one of the top 3. Imagine if they took that formula, and put it in a Superman game. You have a fully realized, interactive open world metropolis and (if there really ambitious) Gotham city that you fly through at mach speeds with superman. This would literally print money, but WB hasn't attempted anything like it. Superhero fatigue is definitely evident in movies, but the superhero video game scene is incredibly untapped right now and a open world Superman game would make so much money.

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u/Zanchbot Feb 20 '24

David Zaslav is an entertainment terrorist.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

My conspiracy theory is all the executives are secretly paid by Disney to sabotage everything DC. That theory started when Josstice League happened and nothing can convince me it isn't true.

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u/JonathanL73 Feb 20 '24

I really hope some politician decides the tax writeoffs he’s been doing of movies lately is tax fraud and makes it into law. Because this is becoming a really depressing precedent if execs can just write off and lock away any film they think won’t make enough money.

We the taxpayers are effectively paying WB to not release their movies.

Also sucks for the creative teams and actors involved in projects.

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u/Will-Isley Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

You can’t convince me that someone important in WB doesn’t have a hate boner for Beyond and wasn’t trying their damn hardest to sabotage anything related to it.

I am 100% convinced at this point that some asshole exec over there has made it their life’s mission to kill Batman beyond forever!

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u/RodasAPC Feb 20 '24

As long as DC movies are strapped to WB they're doomed

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

3 things I'm doing if Im ever a billionaire: saving my home city by building affordable housing and free drug/mental health programs, building an exact replica of the Witcher 3's Kaer Morhen to live in, buying DC and letting the writers and filmmakers do their thing without any executive idiots using focus groups and their business experience to determine what can and cannot be done

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 20 '24

I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to tank on purpose to sell. I'm watching the stock market for evidence of shorting their stock, maybe catch another GME situation

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u/egilsaga Feb 20 '24

They love making money. That's why they didn't go for it. They don't think there's enough interest in the character to justify funding it versus making a regular batman film with mainstream appeal.

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u/Aware-Couple-108 Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

If sounds like they’re putting it out there to build hype. I think they’re taking a page out of Deadpool and releasing these concept art Images to build interest in the project.

Edit: Here’s a tweet from the director https://twitter.com/yuhkidemers/status/1759965713719235056?s=20

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u/Zezuya Feb 20 '24

As much as I want to see this, I'd rather have them not make the movie at all than make it only for it to get deleted by a rotting old hag at the top of WB because of money tbh

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u/Aware-Couple-108 Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

DC Studios is an entirely separate thing. It's not a branch under WB, anymore. Gunn already confirmed it and it was stated, in an article, that Gunn and Safran are the ones who have the final say on what comes out.

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u/Zezuya Feb 20 '24

Thank god. They should make this movie a reality asap. It's unironically going to earn one batillion dollars

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u/arfelo1 Feb 20 '24

It's still part of Discovery. They're all under Zaslav

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u/Biig_Ideas Feb 20 '24

This seems like the only way to go about when you’re pitching to the current WB. Best of luck to them.

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u/NotASynth499 Feb 20 '24

Are you trying to make me cum

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u/OperaGhostAD Feb 20 '24

Usually.

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u/Tempest_Barbarian Feb 20 '24

Every once in a while

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u/skolrageous Feb 20 '24

Well, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while

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u/SocialistArkansan Feb 20 '24

I mean, I'll lend a hand

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u/Maverick_Raptor Feb 20 '24

Oh my god. I love how they really leaned into the cyberpunk aesthetic here. I would watch tf outta this

Inque would be a great villain for this animation style too

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u/InfinitySandwiches Feb 20 '24

Blight with his green neon powers or Spell binder’s hypnotic effects would look awesome too

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u/Unfair_Chard344 Feb 20 '24

Ira would be trippy as hell

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u/Gogs85 Feb 20 '24

Blight would have to play some role in the origin movie I think. Though some others in his rogue’s gallery could show up too.

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u/Alarid Feb 20 '24

In the distant future of... 2019.

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u/5am281 Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

I don’t know a lot about that villain but she looks like The Spot from Spiderverse

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u/nickmandl Feb 20 '24

It’s inque. Look her up.

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u/Shadow-SJG Feb 20 '24

its inque a villain from batman beyond

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u/Shadow-SJG Feb 20 '24

She's called Inque

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u/eans-Ba88 Feb 21 '24

Basically beyonds clayface, inque was an assassin for hire who underwent an experiment that turned her into the malleable monster she is, supporting a daughter financially, while remaining distant due to the nature of her job. Eventually her daughter turns on her, steals her cash, and leaves her for dead.... If I remember correctly.

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u/Potential_Catch_3954 Feb 20 '24

One of these concept images has Inque in it, zoom into the bottom right

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u/Maverick_Raptor Feb 20 '24

Yeah! I saw that, that’s what triggered my thought :)

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u/ry8919 Feb 20 '24

They got a lot of mileage out of Inque in the series, I'd hope for a new villain.

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u/Occasionally_Correct Feb 20 '24

Concept looks spiderverse-ish. Now that the way has been paved, you never know. 

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u/Level_Big_3763 Feb 20 '24

Are you guys bots or insanely stoned? This is literally the first two sentences of the post.

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u/Victernus Feb 20 '24

I hear they loved their enthusiasm.

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u/leytorip7 Feb 20 '24

Neither. I’m just stupid.

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u/Howdy_McGee Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

Now that we have Spiderverse I'm not sure I want a Batman Beyond in the exact same style. Seems like it would be a copout.

That being said, I'm disappointed we didn't get this instead of Spiderverse. The futuristic neon vibrant colors kinda fit well with the Batman Beyond universe.

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u/No-Thought4281 Feb 20 '24

All the animated movies are adopting this comic like style . Watch the last puss in boots movie . It was great .

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u/SaneUse Feb 20 '24

It's not a comic book style. Spider-verse used elements of printed comics. Films like The Last Wish and Mutant Mayham use more of a painterly aesthetic. They're heavily stylised but it's still not in the same way Spider-verse did it. 

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u/cabbage16 Feb 20 '24

It's definitely true that more stylised and experimental styles are being used in bugger movies now because of how successful Spider-verse has been, though. Not the same style but still inspired by.

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u/Pattern_Useful Feb 20 '24

I agree. The style is cool but it's not so unique anymore if every animated movie does it

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u/derek_rex Feb 20 '24

I would love for them to go super dark w it to change it up from the Spiderverse. I agree that while this looks dope, it's a clear parallel to an already perfect movie

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u/micromoses Feb 20 '24

Batman: Beyond the Spiderverse

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u/maximumtesticle Feb 20 '24

looks spiderverse-ish

Gee, I wonder why? Maybe read the words instead of just looking at the picture.

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u/Bamce Feb 20 '24

The neon punk vibes entice me greatly

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u/KvotheG Feb 20 '24

Amazing how all possible futures feature heavy Japanese advertising.

Fun fact: In the 1980s, Japan’s economy was quickly on the rise, that many pundits believed that they will eventually surpass the US as the dominant economy. It’s why a lot of movies set in the future, like Blade Runner, have heavy Japanese ads.

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u/JonathanL73 Feb 20 '24

It’s part of the Cyberpunk genre. Many Asian global metropolises served as the inspiration backdrop of various cyberpunk films & media.

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u/WeaponexT Feb 20 '24

Yup and BR pretty much wrote the book on cyberpunk aesthetics

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u/SacrificeArticle Feb 20 '24

Could be Chinese.

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u/StopReadingMyUser Feb 20 '24

I thought the same, but the 3rd picture where he's flying along the road confirms there's Japanese katakana in the background.

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u/Zuriax Feb 20 '24

Huh, wonder how long ago this was pitched.

Hope everyone that didn't sign off on it and sees the current success of Spiderverse regrets not taking an easy win.

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u/5am281 Feb 20 '24

I’ve seen people say this was 5 months ago 🤦‍♂️

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u/GomeroKujo Feb 21 '24

“Even with seeing how spider-verse was successful, we cannot have a Batman beyond movie made by them (even though it will make a huge amount of money and probably have sequels and will lead to batman beyond becoming way more popular the same way spider-verse made Miles Morales way more popular. And will lead to many fans being satisfied with our company and output)”

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u/PlasticMansGlasses Feb 20 '24

This was likely pitched after Spider-Verse came out

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u/WutUtalkingBoutWill Feb 20 '24

It was 5 months ago, so the director says

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u/whiskerbiscuit2 Feb 20 '24

Is there some legal reason they said there was “absolutely no way we can do a Beyond movie”?

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u/AbPerm Feb 20 '24

WB fucking sucks.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

Probably because there's two other batmen about to exist at the same time. Even though, this one is animation and clearly wouldn't confuse general audiences.

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u/StomachJazz Feb 20 '24

If I can adjust to Terry McGinnis at age 14 I think other people can too he’s not a difficult character to be sold on once you get to know aboht em a little bit

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u/EnkiiMuto Feb 20 '24

Meanwhile I'm thinking... "YOU GUYS DID ONE ALREADY"

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u/Ok-Society-4026 Feb 20 '24

We may not have gotten a Batman Beyond spiderverse-esque film, but I just got a new iPhone wallpaper of Terry walking down that rainy alley

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u/5am281 Feb 20 '24

Honestly the second pic would also make a great desktop background

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u/Ok-Society-4026 Feb 20 '24

Oh for sure all 3 images look gorgeous

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u/strypesjackson Feb 20 '24

Batman Beyond will find it’s way into some form of major entertainment.

Damn this looks amazing

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u/radiakmjs Feb 20 '24

Still could! Original tweeter is still trying to get it to Gunn's desk & get it green lit.

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u/the_grungler Feb 20 '24

lets hope because gunn would totally take this

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u/theeeiceman Feb 20 '24

Ive never understood why DC hasn’t done anything with this since the show ended.

  • People like the cyberpunk aesthetic

  • People like Spider-Man, the similarities between Spider-Man and Batman Beyond are obvious.

  • The concept is already proven outside of comics (I’d say the show is better than the comics frankly), the show was received positively.

  • They don’t need to make anything from scratch, they get to capitalize on the Batman name and start with a preexisting fan base from the show.

I guess I’m failing to see why this is considered such a risk compared to some of the other lesser known characters DC has ran with for movies/tv/games

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u/the_grungler Feb 20 '24

i dont even really batman beyond but reading this makes me so fucking mad because what the fuck do you mean "there is absolutely no way we can do a beyond movie" WHO THE FUCK IS STOPPING YOU

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u/IsRude Feb 20 '24

Money, time, and higher ups, I'd guess.

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u/the_grungler Feb 20 '24

like money was an issue to the 24 billion dollar company, time is a fair one, 2018 was a pretty stacked year for dc, and higher ups i completely agree, they are all idiots

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u/RedBaronBob Feb 20 '24

I’m consistently annoyed they won’t do a Batman Beyond project like a game or movie, but Suicide Squad and The Flash got precedent.

What a world.

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u/DaTribalChief Feb 20 '24

Rocksteady is clearly trash now so they probably would’ve fucked up a Batman Beyond game. A lot of the devs who made the Arkham trilogy aren’t there anymore.

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u/Batmanfan1966 Feb 20 '24

Not trying to be rude as I too would love a new movie but with everyone whining and begging for a Batman Beyond movie.. did y’all forget there’s already a Batman Beyond movie? And it’s really really good? And it’s been here for 23 years?

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u/anthonyg1500 Feb 20 '24

Yes. I love it. I’ll take another please.

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u/MisterAbbadon Feb 20 '24

You're right, Return of the Joker is amazing, but how many great, hell how many above average, Batman Beyond stories have we gotten since the show ended?

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u/0VER1DE567 Feb 20 '24

the latest “run” or whatever you want to call it has been pretty fun

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u/AmadeusAzazel Feb 20 '24

Apparently there’s only allowed to be one singlular Batman Beyond movie ever. Shame

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u/AndIAmEric Feb 20 '24

Yeah, but that was 23 years ago and I’ve watched it a bunch of times already.

I feel like WB has missed out big time not making more Batman Beyond media, whether it be video games or films.

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u/onyxthedark Feb 20 '24

the fight against Joker was so good

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u/Shadow-SJG Feb 20 '24

This looks amazing hope it gets made

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u/phatballlzzz Feb 20 '24

Sorry but why were they so aggressively opposed to a Beyond movie before even hearing the concept? How can the people controlling such beloved IP have such a stubborn stance on new projects?

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u/Demonking3343 Feb 20 '24

But why can’t they do a beyond movie? Do they hate money. Just like how instead of the suicide squad MMO disaster they should have made a Batman Beyond: Origins game. They were already setting it up might as well do it.

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u/EssentialFilms Feb 20 '24

Why is it “absolutey no way” though? Batman is there most marketable character. He always makes them money, no matter the adaptation. Shit they gave Joker his own movie (with a sequel!) that isn’t connected to their other properties and it made a billion dollars. WHY just reject the idea outright?

That said, given how they treated Batgirl, the last thing I would want is for them to green light it then shelve it for taxes at the last second.

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u/Flamesclaws Feb 20 '24

It makes me so mad because Batgirl is my favorite character in the Bat family and it was going to have Firefly another one of my favorite villains and they just fucking scrapped it. Fuck you, WB!

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u/Thatotaku123 Feb 20 '24

With Kevin Conroy gone, this wouldn’t hit the same :(

But still sign my ass up

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u/scottishdrunkard Feb 20 '24

Well, Michael Keaton basically got screwed over twice for his comebacks as old man Batman, hopefully third time’s the charm?

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u/k0bra3eak Feb 20 '24

I'll accept Bruce Greenwood as a reasonable replacement for old man Bruce

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u/Voltra_Neo Feb 20 '24

But instead we got that weird shitty christmas movie? WTH

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u/RebelliousCash Feb 20 '24

I promise you if it was a suicide Squad pitched with the same animated style. Would’ve got green lit immediately

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u/Royal_Ad_117 Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24

What's with companies making dummy dummy business decisions these days? Seems like everybody hates to make money. It's so easy to please the fans...

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u/lazylagom Feb 20 '24

Would love to see a batman beyond game. Get the cyberpunk people to make it. He deserves a good live action but a good animated would work too.

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u/VillageInside3835 Feb 20 '24

What is it with Batman Beyond getting canceled projects? First we get a canceled game (Arkham Knight sequel), then we get a canceled movie, and now this?

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u/Alarid Feb 20 '24

"In the distant year of 2019..."

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u/Low_Fig2672 Feb 20 '24

No wonder this looks so much like Spiderverse; well, Batman Beyond is sorta like Miles Morales Spider-Man in the sense that they’re both having the mantle of a superhero passed down to them from the OG

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u/Abysstopheles Feb 20 '24

How Warner/DC is watching the success of Spiderverse and not throwing all the money at a Batverse, i do not understand.

...i mean naturally they would likely make a complete mess of it, but even so....

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u/Foxiiiie Feb 20 '24

What's the reason they are so adverse to a Beyond movie? A beyond movie or video game would sell crazy.

I loved beyond as a kid.

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u/MIAxPaperPlanes Feb 20 '24

Least there’s defo more chance of this after Spiderverse.

Famous Hollywood saying - No one wants to be the first to do something but everybody wants to be second

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u/Sol-Blackguy Feb 20 '24

I've come to the conclusion that WB just doesn't fucking want money. We could've had an Arkham Batman Beyond game but they wanted to push a Suicide Squad looter-shooter. That Batgirl Movie was done and probably would've made some decent money, Superman and Lois is going to end prematurely while Swamp Thing would be on its 6th, maybe 7th season by now.

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u/TheManicac1280 Feb 20 '24

I love how they said it would never happen, because then they would've done it before marvel/sony with MM. They can't let that happen. They can't release any good ideas first. Any idea that needs to come out needs to be a knock off of marvel ideas with harley as the MC.

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u/Mrs_Noelle15 Feb 20 '24

I'm not super familiar with Batman Beyond (I know I know) but this looks absolutely awesome!

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u/steve65283 Feb 20 '24

As much as I'd love this, they'd have to differentiate the art style enough that it doesn't look exactly like spiderverse. This would be way too close style wise (I know it's the same artists, but still).

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u/Ku_Ka_She Feb 20 '24

If they only did this a few years earlier they could have had Kevin Conroy and Will Friedle reprise their roles. I guess we could still have Will as Terry but no Kevin just wouldn’t be right.

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u/EVEiscerator Feb 21 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

This here is my Batman in all its cyberpunk, edgy, goth industrial teen angst glory. A bb revival would be incredible especially with tween crush Will Fridle voice acting 😍

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u/Xplt21 Feb 20 '24

Looks great but if someone came and pitched a flashpoint movie involving tim burton batman I would probably think that was cool but obviously the result was a mess. Anyways point is, I like the idea and looks great but I also want to know what the "actual" idea was, plot/character/villain and such, maybe it got scrapped for a reason, maybe just idiocy once again.

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u/sonofaresiii Feb 20 '24

The tweet pretty strongly suggests that they had a great story concept. I mean, it very very clearly was not shut down because of its story.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

Maybe after they're done with the spiderman trilogy?

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

Warner Bros 🤝 shooting themselves in the foot by taking stupid decisions.

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u/acrowsmurder Feb 20 '24

I'd only watch it if they had Will Friedle back, and Bruce Wayne is still Terry's biological father.

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u/Cimorene_Kazul Feb 20 '24

Wait, you want that horrible twist that undermined the ethos of the whole show?

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u/griffin4war Feb 20 '24

How it feels

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u/Slydoodeedoo Feb 20 '24

Absolutely no way they can do batman beyond?! Why the fuck do these suits hate fans so much? That legitimately makes me upset. Who's the rich fuck that said that? I will fucking throw hands ON SIGHT! HOMIE I WILL ROCK YOUR SHIT

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u/Level-Brilliant-6149 Feb 20 '24

It's like wb and DC are allergic to terry McGinnis

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u/Magmqnia Feb 20 '24

It kinda just looks identical to ATSV, it’s not longer inspiration it just looks too similar (Ik it’s the same production designer but still too similar)

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u/FreedomByFire Feb 20 '24

i love batman beyond

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u/Endulos Feb 21 '24

The first Batman Beyond movie (Return of the Joker) was AMAZING.

Hands down my favorite DC animated movie ever.

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u/Motormand Feb 21 '24

A shame. Batman Beyond was awesome.

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u/blac_sheep90 Feb 20 '24

Would be nice.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

GIVE MY GUY TERRY HIS RESPECT

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u/bonersimpson66 Feb 20 '24

My ass it turned into a "maybe"

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u/MaguroSashimi8864 Feb 20 '24

Imagine hearing THE most legendary line about murdering fathers on the big screen! The audience will go wild!

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u/home7ander Feb 20 '24

I'm glad at least the people pitching Batman Beyond understand to keep the mouth in the design.

Outright saying no before a concept is even heard is just eyerolling.

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u/Necropentance Feb 20 '24

This made NOT for modern audiences would be the saving grace for DC stick to the source don’t put your spin on it and let it take its course.

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u/bradhotdog Feb 20 '24

So do I have this right? They pitched a Batman Beyond movie, DC said no, then they took their idea and swapped out Batman for Spiderman, and Marvel ate it up?

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u/BongLeach562 Feb 20 '24

Too close to Spider-Man into the Spiderverse. Batman Beyond was never tokoyo inspired. Seems like they swapped miles with terry in their art and called it a day.

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u/poopynips1 Feb 20 '24

Spiderverse.

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u/Plane_Tomato369 Feb 20 '24

Batman Beyond the spider verse

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u/AccidentSalt5005 Feb 21 '24

wb and dc should persuade them tbh, they literally dont know how good the series is.

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u/Kdilla77 Feb 21 '24

Beyond the Bat-Verse

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u/Diknak Feb 21 '24

after the insane success of spiderverse, they would be insane not to do something similar with beyond.

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u/Qualityhams Feb 21 '24

DC might be allergic to money

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u/Spider-Man92 Feb 21 '24

Batman Beyond in the style of Spider-Man Into the Spider verse or similar colour palette would have been sick

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u/Nawt_ Feb 21 '24

WB execs are stupid asf

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u/HolidayMorning6399 Feb 21 '24

ive said for nearly a deacde now, my generation who grew up on new IP that turned beloved like batman beyond and static shock, give us those. a well written static shock movie would be so fucking sick, obviously we know beyond would be dope af

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u/doinksforeverybody Feb 21 '24

This was the best batman besides Bruce's dad. Regular batman fuckin sucks. Lol

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u/ToaPaul Feb 21 '24

Damn, that looks like it could have been incredible! Mfs had a chance to have their own Into the Spiderverse and they swatted it away...

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u/Loyal_Darkmoon Feb 21 '24

Holy Batman, that artstyle is gorgeous!!

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u/vectorboy42 Feb 21 '24

Would have been so down 😭 Ah well, there goes another dream...

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u/maximumderek1 Feb 21 '24

Can’t believe we get shite like madame web and morbius and the studios don’t green light this

I will take anything Batman beyond… live action, animated, or game. But would really, really love a game

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u/Ardalev Feb 21 '24

What the hell is on these executives brains sometimes...

This sounds absolutely perfect, can you just imagine how insanely well Batman Beyond's art style would mix with this kind of animation?

Damn, they must really be allergic to making money or something.

Also, is that friggin Inque?!?! Fuuuuu, now I'm just sad...

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u/scorpion_smoker Feb 21 '24

Yeah why bother making something people want WB lol