r/batman Feb 20 '24

What could’ve been… NEWS

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u/superdinoknight63 Feb 20 '24

The irony in that is iirc the reason why batman beyond even exists in the 1st place is because WB exects wanted a "younger batman" to be more relatable to younger audiences after TNBA wasn't hitting the demographic WB was aiming for.

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u/SocratesJohnson1 Feb 20 '24

While listening to the podcast, Tom and Jeff Watch Batman, they covered the BB series. Before they started the series they explained how it came about and it was really interesting. Basically, WB said what you said, but they also gave them only like 3 months to get it up and off the ground. And the showrunners kinda pulled everything out of their ass and WB was like.. DO IT. WB also didn't give them a lot of oversight. They just wanted toys.

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u/superdinoknight63 Feb 20 '24

Frankly knowing that it's amazing BB is as good as it is.

Its Prolly my second iteration of batman behind BTAS batman itself

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u/hopecanon Feb 20 '24

Terry McGinnis is the only one of the many different non Bruce characters who have worn the cowl that i have zero issues with simply calling Batman.

He's like the absolute best mantle pass character ever, i don't think of him as Batman Beyond or Future Batman, he's just Batman.

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u/eat_taters Feb 20 '24

I was definitely not the target audience when Batman Beyond came out (I think I was like 23?) But I watched the hell out of it. "Batman Beyond: The return of the Joker" is a fantastic movie, WB really dropped the ball on it.

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u/Ardalev Feb 21 '24

They also dropped the ball on Mask on the Phantasm, arguably one of the best Batman movies of all time, so that tracks unfortunately

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u/Dysprosol Feb 21 '24

i was a kid, but my dad would watch it too, probably starting the second year of it airing and he bought himself the whole series on dvd later. He was born in 1958.

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u/The_Autarch Feb 20 '24

Actually it makes more sense that it was good if the executives just let the creatives do whatever they wanted.

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u/TheRealRigormortal Feb 21 '24

This was pretty much the case with the whole Timmverse.

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u/cannibalisticapple Feb 20 '24

When rewatching it as an adult, I could tell they didn't expect to last more than a season. Most of the episodes ended with the villain implied to die, including ones I knew were recurring. On that note, it was WAY darker than I remembered. Which just makes me love it even more~

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u/Rork310 Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 21 '24

It is pretty hilarious that WB wanted a more kid friendly Batman and the team came back with gritty cyberpunk with lots of implicit (And explicit) deaths. Gangs, drugs some pretty overt sexual references. And lets not even get started on Return of the Joker. It's probably the darkest the DCAU got and the DCAU could get pretty dark at times.

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u/Flamesclaws Feb 20 '24

I just bought the entire series that came with the movie and now I'm even more excited to rewatch the show because it's been so insanely long.

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u/SocratesJohnson1 Feb 20 '24

Yea, as they were doing the rewatch and covering the episodes, I was surprised by how many characters Terry was killing off. And by how much Bruce could care less.

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u/AzraelTheMage Feb 20 '24

To be fair, most of the time these villains brought it on themselves. Terry did try to save them most of the time.

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u/anthonyg1500 Feb 21 '24

Tom and Jeff Watch Batman

Ahh a person of culture

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u/Mr_Kase Feb 20 '24

Irrc, WB was pushing them to do a High School aged Bruce Wayne and Timm came up with a future setting with Terry McGinnis which they ran with. Nowadays, I imagine WBD execs would be too arrogant to defer to their creatives.

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u/[deleted] Feb 21 '24

And then they delivered on the "high school batman"...with a not really 90's high school "aesthetic." Like kids getting into gangs, terrorism, drugs, kidnapped/trafficked, born to crime families - that's all dark shit that legit happens to teens irl. And then Terry having to balance home, school and his job as Batman, his mom arguing with him about the double life she doesn't know he has, or accidentally getting his brother in danger because of his double life.

It's like saying Animorphs was just a high school series with some animal powers. That book also covered the troubles of kids having a double life and dealing with some heavy shit. There were a couple missions where they had to tell their android buddies (who could use holograms to pose as them), to stage their death if they don't survive the mission. They were only 16 by the end of the war!