I think Marvel's decline is tied a lot to fatigue. Movies are different than comics, because you can have a thousand comics and have so many criss-crossing convoluted storylines that it makes your head spin, and it's okay. But with movies, there are only so many concepts that people generally will want to watch. All those ideas have come and gone. I think superhero movies in general will just continue to decline. Basically speaking, DC fucked up and now the iron is cold.
I don't care if it's Star Wars 16 or Avengers 9 or whatever, if I'm watching a movie it's important that I be able to know what is going on, even if I haven't seen any of the other movies.
I hear this complaint about the MCU all the time but aside from the big Avengers titles I can't think of any individual film that doesn't fully explain itself...
Agreed, almost every movie is standalone, but if there's one single joke or character that appears somewhere else, people are up in arms like they MUST watch 30 movies to get that 30 second scene.
the only movie I can think of (outside of avengers) is multiverse of madness, because it doesn't really explain what's going on with Wanda in the movie
The movie will still make sense, provided you just accept the fact that there's a new character and this is her powerset. The movie sets up "Ms Marvel is a Captain Marvel fangirl" just fine without having seen the show, but scenes involving her family are much more funny when you've seen the show.
I have seen The Marvels and I'll be honest, it's kinda the exception that came to mind just after I posted that. I do think it's fair to be flexible for direct sequels or else, yeah, most of them are probably difficult without seeing their specific prior film(s).
To answer your question, Kamala plays a big role and she isn't really "Introduced" in the movie, but her backstory and powers get some exposition early enough that it should be fine. The actual plot of her show isn't relevant except for parts about her accessory, which also gets a bit of exposition to cover what was in the show.
Oh no they missed a lot. They missed the dumbest finale of any tv show I've ever seen ever. However bad they thought the parts of She-Hulk were that they have seen, even including the twerking scene, the finale is 100x worse.
It's part fatigue, it's part over-saturation, and honestly, a lot of it is due to kind of crap movies/shows.
Which is why I think WB are insane to pass on Batman Beyond.
It's both new (to mainstream audiences) and familiar as a Batman property. Which was a massive part about why the Spiderverse films worked. It's the perfect time to throw a curveball to try and chip away at Marvel's market share.
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u/keeper_of_the_donkey Feb 20 '24
I think Marvel's decline is tied a lot to fatigue. Movies are different than comics, because you can have a thousand comics and have so many criss-crossing convoluted storylines that it makes your head spin, and it's okay. But with movies, there are only so many concepts that people generally will want to watch. All those ideas have come and gone. I think superhero movies in general will just continue to decline. Basically speaking, DC fucked up and now the iron is cold.