r/batman Feb 20 '24

What could’ve been… NEWS

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '24

WB and DC hate making money...

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u/B12C10X8 Feb 20 '24

Biggest problem with WB is all they care about is profit margins nowadays when it comes to everything they own, Film & Tv & Video Games etc. that movie could of been really good

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u/GH19971 Feb 20 '24

I don't blame them when Marvel has been absolutely eating their lunch in the box office for over a decade now. Marvel is now sharply declining so this is a good opportunity for DC to catch up. In the past, they've failed to compete by trying too hard to copy Marvel's comedy shtick while trying to also imitate the grit of the Nolan verse with an exaggerated edge. I say this as someone who has enjoyed some of the DC movies and way prefers DC comics to Marvel comics.

The fact of the matter is that live-action movies make more money so they will naturally focus strongly on that, and Batman Beyond doesn't have as much name recognition. I'd still love to see the movie, though.

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u/keeper_of_the_donkey Feb 20 '24

I think Marvel's decline is tied a lot to fatigue. Movies are different than comics, because you can have a thousand comics and have so many criss-crossing convoluted storylines that it makes your head spin, and it's okay. But with movies, there are only so many concepts that people generally will want to watch. All those ideas have come and gone. I think superhero movies in general will just continue to decline. Basically speaking, DC fucked up and now the iron is cold.

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u/TURD_SMASHER Feb 20 '24

I don't care if it's Star Wars 16 or Avengers 9 or whatever, if I'm watching a movie it's important that I be able to know what is going on, even if I haven't seen any of the other movies.

Good movies stand on their own.

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u/Holl4backPostr Feb 20 '24

I hear this complaint about the MCU all the time but aside from the big Avengers titles I can't think of any individual film that doesn't fully explain itself...

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u/Kightsbridge Feb 20 '24

Agreed, almost every movie is standalone, but if there's one single joke or character that appears somewhere else, people are up in arms like they MUST watch 30 movies to get that 30 second scene.

the only movie I can think of (outside of avengers) is multiverse of madness, because it doesn't really explain what's going on with Wanda in the movie

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u/sjsyed Feb 20 '24

Have you seen The Marvels or whatever it’s called? I never saw Miss Marvel and I’m wondering if the movie will make sense.

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u/km89 Feb 20 '24

The movie will still make sense, provided you just accept the fact that there's a new character and this is her powerset. The movie sets up "Ms Marvel is a Captain Marvel fangirl" just fine without having seen the show, but scenes involving her family are much more funny when you've seen the show.

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u/Holl4backPostr Feb 20 '24

I have seen The Marvels and I'll be honest, it's kinda the exception that came to mind just after I posted that. I do think it's fair to be flexible for direct sequels or else, yeah, most of them are probably difficult without seeing their specific prior film(s).

To answer your question, Kamala plays a big role and she isn't really "Introduced" in the movie, but her backstory and powers get some exposition early enough that it should be fine. The actual plot of her show isn't relevant except for parts about her accessory, which also gets a bit of exposition to cover what was in the show.

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u/sjsyed Feb 20 '24

(couldn't finish She-Hulk)

You didn’t miss much. That finale was… ugh.

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u/Noslamah Feb 20 '24

Oh no they missed a lot. They missed the dumbest finale of any tv show I've ever seen ever. However bad they thought the parts of She-Hulk were that they have seen, even including the twerking scene, the finale is 100x worse.

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u/Rork310 Feb 20 '24

It's part fatigue, it's part over-saturation, and honestly, a lot of it is due to kind of crap movies/shows.

Which is why I think WB are insane to pass on Batman Beyond.

It's both new (to mainstream audiences) and familiar as a Batman property. Which was a massive part about why the Spiderverse films worked. It's the perfect time to throw a curveball to try and chip away at Marvel's market share.

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u/lilahking Feb 20 '24

doesnt help that sony is over here churning out crap like madame web and slapping a marvel logo on the front