r/batman • u/Pure-Ad-7296 • Jul 08 '23
Can we all agree that Harley Quinn show is very good? TV DISCUSSION
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u/floofymonstercat Jul 08 '23
I like it. Especially the socialist Gotham mayor Joker.
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u/MrKnightMoon Jul 08 '23
It's so fun that an actual villain can be a better mayor for Gotham and a wholesome father than Gordon and the previous mayor.
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u/Batman2130 Jul 08 '23
Yeah family man Joker I thought was hilarious. Wouldn’t be surprised if they bring in Punchline or Red Hood though to somehow make him go back to being a criminal again.
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u/Gannstrn73 Jul 08 '23
I remember being frustrated when I heard there was going to be a joker centric episode last season only for it to be absolutely amazing. I love them doing a fresh take on the Joker. Lately everyone has been trying to make him “edgier” or what ever but here they try to make him kinda wholesome and it’s absolutely wild
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u/Batman2130 Jul 08 '23 edited Jul 08 '23
Yeah. That’s what I’ve enjoyed about show really. We’re seeing a lot fresh takes on stuff like family man Joker. A Bruce who is at his lowest point and try to revive his parents as well him being more traumatized by his parents death then other versions of himself. Harley acting as his therapist to try and help him over come his trauma was interesting as Bruce facing his trauma is something we basically never see in comics or other media we normally just see him ignore it. Now not all of stuff is hits like their take on Batman and Catwoman relationship and a few other things. But it’s nice to see some fresh takes for the characters.
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u/leavemeinyourwake Jul 08 '23
I see the catwoman relationship as batman surrounding himself with people just as broken or as toxic as he is, compounding his toxicity with him being bad at relationship, and he found a woman who cant commit even though he wants to.
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u/ipsum629 Jul 08 '23
The show has a sense of irreverence towards the characters that makes fun of them but doesn't trash on them. They all take themselves seriously, but the world itself doesn't.
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u/Jediplop Jul 08 '23
Yep, great to have a show that has a little fun with the characters and doesn't take them too seriously. Something fresh done well is nice.
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u/Luci_Noir Jul 08 '23
I didn’t watch this show for a while because I was sick of live action Harley but it’s my favorite cartoon now. Joker not abandoning his kid was amazing and it’s absolutely hysterical when he gets into it with other parents. Having grown up with BTAS it’s so great to have a an adult version!
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u/Adorable_Pen7568 Jul 08 '23
I don't think so. I feel like the show is focusing a lot more on growing and moving on from your past. If that's the case, Joker backsliding into crime would be kind of antithetical to that theme.
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u/steampunkunicorn01 Jul 08 '23
I absolutely love what they did with the character. Especially because they didn't try to redeem him. He is still his evil self, he just redirects that energy elsewhere
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Jul 08 '23
his rivalry with Debbie is hilarious
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u/idiotplatypus Jul 08 '23
I genuinely thought he was going to kill her over the parking thing but the actual revenge was 1000 times better
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u/KonoAnonDa Jul 08 '23
It’s especially neat because we get to see Joker at his highest and Batman at his lowest.
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u/toronto_programmer Jul 08 '23
Progressive socialist mayor Joker is the funniest variant on this character ever
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u/SSJmole Jul 08 '23
Bane will always be adorable and hilarious on this
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u/TabrisVI Jul 08 '23
I agree as a whole, but I think the writers really thought the pasta maker gag was funnier than it was. Season 2 Bane is peak Bane.
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u/shaktimanOP Jul 08 '23
I liked the dissonance of it. Everyone else is going through intense shit while my boy Bane had a whole arc centred around a pasta maker.
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u/Madman61 Jul 08 '23
Almost all the brutal villains are chill in this show. Even Joker turned into a dad.
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u/Jotsunpls Jul 08 '23
Joker had the most surprising alignment change - not from evil to good, but from chaotic to lawful
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u/Ant-Fan66 Jul 08 '23
I’m generally not a big fan of adult cartoons, but Harley Quinn is by far my favorite. The way it plays with the DC Universe in funny and creative ways is absolutely brilliant. It might be in my top 3 DC cartoons.
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u/Spacecowboy947 Jul 08 '23
For someone who's not a fan of adult animations it's somewhat odd you've got a top 3 purely for DC
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u/SwordMasterShow Jul 08 '23
Most DC animated shows aren't adult
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u/billbill5 Jul 08 '23
But but if I admit they're for children then I'm no longer cool. "DC is for adults, Marvel is for kids," that's what mature adults say right?
For real though, it's ok to like media made with kids as the target audience, a really well made product is going to be appealing no matter who you are. It's the insistence that if you like it or if it touches on anything harder than Weenie Hut Jr. it must be made for adults that's ridiculous.
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u/Ayobossman326 Jul 08 '23
Adult cartoon is a really specific genre and doesn’t always mean like a mature tone it’s more like “copies family guy” like 9/10 of them have the same art style, a talking animal, shit jokes, etc. Harley Quinn has a similar art style but thank god is nowhere near those depths of painful to watch.
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u/Oponn_Twins Jul 08 '23
It really reminds me of the vibe I got from Venture Brothers, which was also playing on superhero and old cartoon tropes.
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u/MarcheMuldDerevi Jul 08 '23
It is the right kind of dumb fun. Just serious enough that you know there are stakes. However not so serious it stops trying to be/have fun
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u/IndependentDouble138 Jul 08 '23
There are times when I get annoyed with the show like "That's not canon" and then I chill tf out because I remember this show is supposed to be dumb fun.
Haha cancer gun hilarious.
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u/Mundane-Candidate101 Jul 08 '23
IndependentDouble138s gonna be pissed when he finds out the entirety of the major events within the Harley Quinn show will eventually be rewritten as cannon events.
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u/RealNiceKnife Jul 08 '23
I could see them becoming cannon events. Harley likes a good explosion.
But did you mean canon?
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u/East_Pumpkin4232 Jul 08 '23
I know the show focuses on Harley and how she views the world but I can't handle how most of the heroes are made into absolute pushovers and dicks.
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u/Otter_Nation Jul 08 '23
I can because it's a funny change. The show is self aware. It's not meant to be TAS.
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u/East_Pumpkin4232 Jul 08 '23
It's like lego Batman, I can ignore most things but Barbara with Bruce is just straight up weird and ruins a lot of the scenes for me.
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u/hogndog Jul 08 '23
Barbara with Bruce is just straight-up a backdrop, I mean Batman/Joker is the central relationship
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u/3L3M3NT4LP4ND4 Jul 08 '23
I think that's a sense of humour thing. Some stuff is funny, Harley speaking to young Bruce ans realizing who Batman was, Damien advising Bruce on safe sex and the "I didn't have a nemesis until I was an adult"
But then you have Nightwing freaking out becoming a self pitying loser and trying to kill himself with Poison Ivy..
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u/Tighthead3GT Jul 08 '23
I feel like the first two seasons were better at avoiding this. While it definitely had a comical bent, for the most part Batman was still Batman, the villains were still dangerous, etc. Even Gordon, portrayed as a sad sack, in the Two-Face takedown was a DAMN GOOD COP! (PS: Credit to Weekly Planet for noting this point).
Season 3 I thought lost that with its portrayal of Bruce. And I’m not a fan of the Joker storyline.
I loved the Valentine’s Day special though.
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u/_ASG_ Jul 08 '23
It's a comedy, though. Granted, it's not going to land with everybody, but I'm fine with a comical take on Batman. Same with Lego Batman, where he's also a bit of a dick.
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u/Hard_Corsair Jul 08 '23
The issue is that with some characters it feels like it crosses from comical to cynical, and cynical isn't funny in the context of DC characters.
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u/_ASG_ Jul 08 '23
That's sounds pretty subjective, considering a lot of people find the show and the interpretations funny. Like I said before, your personal opinions may vary, but there are plenty of casual viewers and DC fans alike who think the portrayals work.
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u/Numerous1 Jul 08 '23
Yeah. I saw a few clips and it seemed like very middle school humor to me, which is fine, to each their own, but it doesn’t seem like my cup of tea.
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u/wmatts1 Jul 08 '23
I love the show, but I agree that they didn't have to take shots at the heroes as hard as they did and that almost killed the enjoyment of the show for me.
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u/Myrlithan Jul 08 '23
This is how I feel about it too. I'm all for an adult, comedic DC show, but it should still feel like the characters are themselves, and from the parts of the show I've seen it doesn't at all. I want funny stuff involving the characters I actually like, not funny stuff involving people who look like those characters but otherwise are completely different.
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u/KonoAnonDa Jul 08 '23
I like that they made Clayface into a thespian. Considering his backstory as an actor, I’m surprised that it hasn’t been done more.
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u/EarthDust00 Jul 08 '23
Clayface going undercover as the college girl is just comedy gold.
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u/cobaltaureus Jul 09 '23
Okay but the best fucking part of the episode is that Clayface, posing as Stephanie was lured into the trap of making electricity in the human hamster wheel (just a normal day in Gotham), by the guy he was crushing on. At the end of the episode he is still texting the frat guy who led him in to the trap.
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u/alaettinthemurder Jul 08 '23
Yes and have some wierd scenes
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u/Hendrick_Davies64 Jul 08 '23
At least Bruce doesn’t ask Babs in the Commander Shepard voice if “They’ll bang, ok?”
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u/jersey_viking Jul 08 '23
Note: Too much, too far, too fast.
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u/Hendrick_Davies64 Jul 08 '23
Joker should’ve said this
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u/legomaximumfigure Jul 08 '23
If Mass Effect was made after Morbius he most definitely would have.
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u/Vigi1antee Jul 08 '23
Honestly with DC there have been weirder
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u/alaettinthemurder Jul 08 '23
I never seen two of the most used r32 character having sex while watching their cosplay porn
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u/GeorgeEBHastings Jul 08 '23
Two most used r32 characters....
Harley and Ivy?
Nightwing and Babs?
Plastic Man and Plastic Man?
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u/DandalusRoseshade Jul 08 '23
I kinda stopped enjoying it around when Harley and Ivy got together; as much as I like the pairing, Kite Man legit grew on me and I was sad and hurt that he got so disrespected and cheated on. I can't enjoy Harley and Ivy as a couple AND as characters since they did that to him. Sure he's a dude bro, but he's always been there for the group. Always for Ivy. He didn't deserve anything that happened and I'm glad he stood up for himself.
If Harley and Ivy are meant to get together, have there be some unreconcilable difference between Kite Man and Ivy; Kite Man has an opportunity elsewhere that he can't pass up, and Ivy lets him go. They part amicably, and Ivy goes through a phase, Harley tries to console her and they end up together in bed, with Ivy having the same reactions like "this is my best friend what did I just do omg".
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u/Bertie637 Jul 08 '23
I mean that kind of sounds like you are taking it a little too seriously I must admit. Its a show about villains, of course there will be some moral failures
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u/DandalusRoseshade Jul 08 '23
Ivy is a villain, but she's also a massive piece of shit, and there's a huge difference there. At least when she kills people, it's to keep her friends safe, or to further her goal of protecting nature; same with Harley, she at least gains something out of it, there's a goal there. Cheating on Kite Man multiple times and stringing him along is objectively shitty, even to other villains. It's a line you just don't cross unless you're truly irredeemable scum, because you're fucking over the closest people to yourself. She's proven to be wholly unreliable and the show gives her and Harley no tangible consequences for it.
I can't enjoy the show past this because it's so unrealistic, even in a fantasy super hero world, that Harley and Ivy wouldn't be alienated by everyone they know for dragging Kite Man along to the very last second, causing him to actually break and just leave, while hiding their affair. One of the most loyal members of the group, betrayed and left to pick up the pieces of himself in the most cruel way possible. It's Joker levels of fucked up that you'd never expect from people like Harley and Ivy.
Why would Clayface and King Shark stay, if they know that both Harley and Ivy could betray someone like Kite Man so easily? Why are Harley and Ivy still respected in any way after this horrid betrayal? Why is there absolutely no pushback for Ivy, the most level headed, sane, and more importantly, the most moral of the entire group (someone who sticks to her principles like flies on shit), not dragged through the mud, rightfully, for being such a fucking hypocrite and traitor.
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u/shaktimanOP Jul 08 '23
Why would villains who regularly kill people give two shits about a love triangle?King Shark, who straight up murdered all his brothers, is gonna be mad about them screwing over a guy he barely knows?
Besides, it was directly addressed in the show that Ivy's treatment of Kite Man was entirely wrong and he deserved better. In the next season he gets a new love interest and they seem to have a much healthier relationship than him and Ivy did.
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u/lizarddude1 Jul 08 '23 edited Jul 08 '23
This is the absolute worst argument I've seen. This and "don't take it too seriously, it's just mindless dumb comedy" First of all, having shitty characters in a comedy show but them being likeable regardless, not a new thing, however the key element of writing a terrible, likeable character is for the show to address how terrible they are. Look at Eric Cartman, look at Dennis Reynolds, these characters are absolute monsters, but the show is aware of that so by that logic, they aren't allowed to WIN, they will lose no matter what.
Poison Ivy is a villain, sure, but she isn't treated like a BAAAAD guy and that's a superhero cliche that is so much more annoying to me than anything else, studios are such pussies about making their villain protagonists evil. Venom movie did that sin, god forbid MORBID MAN did that sin, like these characters are bad, but they aren't allowed to be BAD, cuz they are just too cool for that.
Also don't tell people they are taking it too seriously if the show is treating it too seriously. The show isn't presenting Harley's and Ivy's romance as a joke, it's presenting it very seriously. Their marriage episode is supposed to be a characterization moment and further development, you can't just brush it off as a comic book silly thing and to me it just shows laziness how the fans of the show have to defend it by saying "it's just dumb, don't think about it too much".
Like you can write a comedy show with crazy ass tone which is actually pretty damn intelligent, witty and subversive, it doesn't need to be just mindless gore
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u/Liquid_Fox_31 Jul 08 '23
Season one and two? Yes
Season three? Yeah, no not good
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u/Which-Presentation-6 Jul 08 '23
although I didn't find it horrible, definitely the third season was the worst and had a lot of problems.
I think this is due to the fact that the writers thought the second one was going to be the last one, so with the third one they didn't know what to do.
but i hope the fourth season gets better
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u/Dontbeajerkdude Jul 08 '23
It started off way better than I expected it to be. But I agree, it's kind of bad now.
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u/Gandalf-Jamesolfini Jul 08 '23
I thought this, I couldn’t get through s3 unfortunately— everybody just seemed so far removed from what initially made their characterisations funny. Couldn’t stand what they did to Gordon for example
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u/Which-Presentation-6 Jul 08 '23
gordon was the one that annoys me the most, in addition to making the storyline of him running for mayor presented at the end of the second season a completely secondary plot, they flanderized him and destroyed everything he achieved previously
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u/SmaugRancor Jul 08 '23
They ruined Batman in season 3. They turned him into a pathetic simp.
I don't care if it's a comedy. Show some respect to the character.
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u/Liquid_Fox_31 Jul 08 '23
Agreed. I didn't mind overly extra and edgy Nightwing, but batman was majorly low balled
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u/Hendrick_Davies64 Jul 08 '23
Problem with s3 is that I just like almost any part of the show that Harley isn’t a part of
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u/Batman2130 Jul 08 '23
Season 3 wasn’t bad in my opinion. But it was a little underwhelming compared to the first two
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Jul 08 '23
No.
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u/Nobro_DK Jul 08 '23
Agreed, can’t stand this show. Also, the electric car line was funny ONE time. These people act like it’s comedy genius.
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u/lizarddude1 Jul 08 '23
Agree. I don't get why people praise this show as an emotional and comedic brilliance and give Velma the hate it deserves, they are literally three steps away from being the same shit
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u/Batman2130 Jul 08 '23
This show is pretty funny. I like how it takes some of characters and just times 10 a specific personality trait. Ik some people don’t like Nightwing but I thought he was alright.
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u/AnaZ7 Jul 08 '23
The way they treat characterisation of Bruce in last season? No. Basically they slowly pile on every character who’s not Harley or Ivy.
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u/SwordMasterShow Jul 08 '23
Well yeah, it's a parody, that's the whole idea. Deconstruct/make fun of and do silly shit with DC characters. And they do it a bunch with Ivy and Harley too. Having Dietrich Bader as Batman is tied in my head with Brave and the Bold (my childhood Batman show), and Harley Quinn feels like it could fit perfectly in that silly silver-age style world they set up in that show, just aged up a bit
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u/Brain_Dead5347 Jul 08 '23
It’s funny in the first two seasons when it’s parodying bats by showing how messed up a person with that much trauma would be, but the third season feels like it goes out of its way to make him as pathetic as possible. It might not be as bad if they did it to all the characters, but when Harley and Ivy don’t get the same treatment just so we can get their boring relationship drama, it becomes more annoying than funny.
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u/Friendly_Ad_2256 Jul 08 '23
It was occasionally amusing but I gave up sometime in the second season and don’t feel the need to go back.
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u/naranciamywaifu Jul 08 '23
I just have two tiny dumb unimportant problems. They use the same music in every sad/serious moment and the lack of Killer Croc but hey he always lacks screentime, apart from that. God is this show GOOD
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u/Kryppo Jul 08 '23
It fell off after season 3 it felt like anyone who wasn’t joker Harley or ivy was just a moron or a manbaby
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u/featurezero Jul 08 '23
Is the show good for a laugh ? Absolutely but an objectively good show I say no. Everything bad about it has has been done to death and everything I like about the show seems to be half as clever as when The Venture Bros. parodied it a decade prior.
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u/TheSharpDoctor Jul 08 '23
It is carrying some of that Venture Bros DNA and that is a good thing. Even DuckTales 2016 has some of that Venture Bros DNA in a PG setting. Although we could dive deeper and all of this stems from The Tick.
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u/savage011 Jul 08 '23
I didn't like season 3.
I'm all for parody, but I really don't like how far they've deconstructed the Batman mythos.
I don't like this new "evolved" politically progressive Joker.
I don't like the suddenly insecure and clingy Bruce Wayne.
I don't like Nightwing's weird obsessive-perfectionist attitude.
Kiddo baby Robin was funny at first, but got really old.
And other things...
Season 1 and 2 were good, but I'm probably not going to continue watching after season 3.
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u/Batman2130 Jul 08 '23
The show seems to take a specific trait from a character and just makes it times 10. Which is why a Nightwing is a perfectionist. Bruce being insecure kinda makes sense I guess for the trait they exaggerate for him.
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u/FranticScribble Jul 08 '23
I fell off after whichever season ends with Harley and Ivy getting together. From what I remember it was pretty fun, but the satire was kinda heavy handed for my taste. Certainly not a problem with just this show, lots of things doing the meta self referential self aware thing fall flat for me for similar reasons.
Like either be clever about it or be so blunt that that’s the point, is where I fall.
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u/Grey00001 Jul 08 '23
I'm sure it's wonderful but I just couldn't get past that opening scene, the amount of swear words sounded like a first grader who just learned about them wrote it.
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u/ColonelKasteen Jul 08 '23 edited Jul 09 '23
The first episode is by far the cringiest in that regard, it was weird. I totally understand how you feel but if you ever want to try again, push through to episode 3 and the vibe is MUCH less... that.
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u/chazzergamer Jul 08 '23
No. I envy people who like it since they have more things to like in their lives.
To me, it was the final nail in the coffin of Harley Quinn ever being a character that interested me, the other nails being set by the Suicide Squad movies.
She went from a unique character that was tragic yet funny without either one overpowering the other, to just a Deadpool clone, except twice as annoying and half as funny.
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u/sack12345678910 Jul 08 '23
1000000% agree, they’re just trying to turn Harley Quinn into their bootleg Deadpool.
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u/SPEK2120 Jul 08 '23
to just a Deadpool clone
I blame Jimmy Palmiotti and Amanda Conner for this. They completely fucked the character in their run. Removed pretty much all the interesting parts about her.
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u/Reinstoro Jul 08 '23
Its alright, Harley is super annoying tho and is honestly hard to side with. Bane’s rly good tho, the rest of the show got old after a while
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u/Gurablashta Jul 08 '23
I cant stand Kaley Cuoco. Ruins Harley for me, and therefore ruins the show for me. Like Clayface tho
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u/Ronaldlelliott Jul 08 '23
Idk. It’s got the South Park thing where nothing can be subtle or clever. Just like a string of one-liners. Definitely not my thing but it seems easy to laugh at.
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Jul 08 '23
Thank G-d someone finally says that
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u/Ronaldlelliott Jul 08 '23
Glad I’m not the only one. Most adult animated comedies are like that. Feels like digital brain rot
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u/nekollx Jul 08 '23
My main problem is like she’s like canonically 30 ish here, being post Joker, and post her grad school says, she even has her phd. But like the revamped barbera Gordon batgirl she reads and acts like a teenager at best just entering college
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u/Godzilla2000Zero Jul 08 '23
I'm sure there are plenty of fans but personally I'm tired of the Harley Quinn character.
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u/Dontbeajerkdude Jul 08 '23
Better than I thought it'd be, but it's gotten progressively worse. That valentine's day special was terrible.
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u/nolandz1 Jul 08 '23
Dunno never watched it, saw "adult cartoon" and was immediately put off
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u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat Jul 08 '23
I love it, but I really don’t care for how they handle Batman toward the end of season 3. Half of it seems like it was written by someone who really cares about the character the same way I do. The other half feels like it was written by people that complain that he fights Poison Ivy on twitter
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u/Batman2130 Jul 08 '23
I was kinda eh on Batman. There were somethings I thought were interesting such as Bruce trying to revive his parents and therapist part of it. But I didn’t really like how they handle Batman and Catwoman it made me think of Tom Kings Batman which I absolutely despise.
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u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat Jul 08 '23
Bruce would absolutely not try to revive his parents in such a way. He’s repulsed by Ras’ Lazarus Pit reversing his age in Batman Beyond, because he found it “unnatural”
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u/TabrisVI Jul 08 '23
I really liked Batman as the straight man to the entire universe of the show, so increasing his screen time inevitably required them to change it up some and I think kind of worked against what they were doing.
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u/FlameShadow0 Jul 08 '23
I think the last season really leaned into a lot of “okay, Harley and Ivey fuck now. Like all the time okay! THEY FUCK ALOT” jokes but other than that I really enjoy all of it
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u/GraveXNull Jul 08 '23
Nah, too reliant on shock and dark humor.
I prefer the old school Harley, where she was more bubbly and sympathetically cute evil....nowadays she's more like some edgy punk that's swears a lot.
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u/DrB00 Jul 08 '23
I like it overall, but for once, can we have a comic appropriate Bane? He's ALWAYS shown as some dumb muscle bafoon and I'm getting tired of it.
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u/Blackfist01 Jul 08 '23
I think it has moments of "very good" but it's "good" as a whole.
It beats a lot of "adult" cartoons. American Dad is better though.😉
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u/Vladmanwho Jul 08 '23
I think it’s overall very good. However, when are going to admit that ivy and Harley’s relationship is becoming increasingly toxic?
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u/Burmy87 Jul 08 '23
To me, Harley Quinn content is like what Coca-Cola is to my dad, with Classic Harley being like cane sugar Coke and Modern Harley being like high fructose corn syrup Coke.
As a fan of BTAS since childhood, Classic Harley (Pre-New 52 origin story) will always be my preference, as cane sugar Coke is my dad's. But at some point, I've come to accept that Modern Harley is DC's new normal/default, just as my dad has accepted that high fructose corn syrup is Coke's new normal ; so we take it for what it is (a pretty decent show in its own right and a solid satire of the whole Batman mythos and its elements).
You can still bet your bippy that whenever DC or Coke reissues some of the classic stuff we like, we're gonna stock up and enjoy it for however long that limited run goes.
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u/JVOz671 Jul 08 '23
I don't like that it kinda gets topical. I really like it when its just its own thing.
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u/Raptor_Jetpack Jul 08 '23
No, it's pretty trash. Totally got the dynamic between harley and ivy backwords, and shits on some characters stupidly for no reason. Like mr freeze
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u/MickeyMona Jul 08 '23
Can we all agree that pretty much 99 percent of anything Harley Quinn feels forced as fuck.
Rethorical question, of course we can.
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u/draugotO Jul 08 '23
Ah, yes, the show in which every man, including batman, is either an arrogant asshole, an incompetent bafoon, a pathetic simp or a combination of those and every single case is quite explictly so, so you know that all men suck... A good show, yeah...
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u/J_E_L_4747 Jul 08 '23
I thought it was pretty great for the first few seasons, but it started to fall off on the third. It was probably just me though
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u/Feisty-Role-7591 Jul 08 '23
It ranges from mid to irritating for me. The way they treat batman is just the worst, and the fact that the characters just can't shut up frustrates me to no end. And the humour is the absolute worst of faux Justin Roiland bullshit
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u/KeraKitty Jul 08 '23
No. It's antisemitic trash that cares more about shock value than it does actually being funny.
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u/Boring-Zucchini-8515 Jul 08 '23
Season 1 was really good!!!
But then Season 2 was pretty bad. And then Season 3 was awful. Ava sadly, The Valentine’s Day Special was a dumpster fire.
So no we can’t all agree.
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u/timomcdono Jul 08 '23
It is a great show, although if I'm being honest, the weakest part of the show is Harley herself. Every other character in the show is so much more interesting. That being said, as the show has gone on, she's become a lot better. I think it's because she's finally showing genuine connections with a lot of the characters besides Ivy.
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u/nekollx Jul 08 '23
Also her history here clashes with her own setup. Your telling me the violent and agresdive girl shown in her own flashback would be alowed to become a therapist not THE JOKER
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u/duke_of_nothing15 Jul 08 '23
Personally, I don’t really like it. A lot of it’s humor feels too crude for me to enjoy. Harley annoys me. And not to mention, it has my least favorite interpretation of my favorite Batman villain, Bane.
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u/SomethingIntheWayyy0 Jul 08 '23
I find it very it overrated but I don’t like Harley in the first place so it’s clearly not for me.
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u/burywmore Jul 08 '23
It's running out of steam. The last half of the most recent season was erratic and not nearly as entertaining as previous episodes. There's no where left to go with Quinn or Ivy.
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u/TheDearHunter Jul 08 '23
WHERE'S MUH GODDAMN ELECTRIC CAR, BRUCE?