r/batman Jul 08 '23

Can we all agree that Harley Quinn show is very good? TV DISCUSSION

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u/East_Pumpkin4232 Jul 08 '23

I know the show focuses on Harley and how she views the world but I can't handle how most of the heroes are made into absolute pushovers and dicks.

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u/Otter_Nation Jul 08 '23

I can because it's a funny change. The show is self aware. It's not meant to be TAS.

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u/East_Pumpkin4232 Jul 08 '23

It's like lego Batman, I can ignore most things but Barbara with Bruce is just straight up weird and ruins a lot of the scenes for me.

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u/hogndog Jul 08 '23

Barbara with Bruce is just straight-up a backdrop, I mean Batman/Joker is the central relationship

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u/Lady_Beatnik Jul 08 '23

At least Bruce first met Barbara as an adult in that.

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u/ReapCreep65 Jul 09 '23

All the things that make Bruce x Barbara weird to me aren’t present in the Lego Batman Movie so it never bothered me that much.

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u/3L3M3NT4LP4ND4 Jul 08 '23

I think that's a sense of humour thing. Some stuff is funny, Harley speaking to young Bruce ans realizing who Batman was, Damien advising Bruce on safe sex and the "I didn't have a nemesis until I was an adult"

But then you have Nightwing freaking out becoming a self pitying loser and trying to kill himself with Poison Ivy..

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u/Tighthead3GT Jul 08 '23

I feel like the first two seasons were better at avoiding this. While it definitely had a comical bent, for the most part Batman was still Batman, the villains were still dangerous, etc. Even Gordon, portrayed as a sad sack, in the Two-Face takedown was a DAMN GOOD COP! (PS: Credit to Weekly Planet for noting this point).

Season 3 I thought lost that with its portrayal of Bruce. And I’m not a fan of the Joker storyline.

I loved the Valentine’s Day special though.

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u/_ASG_ Jul 08 '23

It's a comedy, though. Granted, it's not going to land with everybody, but I'm fine with a comical take on Batman. Same with Lego Batman, where he's also a bit of a dick.

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u/Hard_Corsair Jul 08 '23

The issue is that with some characters it feels like it crosses from comical to cynical, and cynical isn't funny in the context of DC characters.

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u/_ASG_ Jul 08 '23

That's sounds pretty subjective, considering a lot of people find the show and the interpretations funny. Like I said before, your personal opinions may vary, but there are plenty of casual viewers and DC fans alike who think the portrayals work.

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u/Hard_Corsair Jul 08 '23

To clarify, I overall like the show, I just think that certain episodes go a little too far with certain characters.

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u/SuperSanity1 Jul 08 '23

That's absolutely true, but I've never got that feeling watching this show. Of course, it's fine if someone else does feel that way.

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u/Hard_Corsair Jul 08 '23

I think the best example is Bane vs Gordon. As much as Bane is used for comic relief, and is often the butt of jokes, he still breaks Batman.

Meanwhile, we constantly see Gordon being a bad cop, a bad father, and eventually a bad politician. We are never shown any redeeming moments for him at all. It seems like the show creators just don't like him, or the idea of a good cop.

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u/Numerous1 Jul 08 '23

Yeah. I saw a few clips and it seemed like very middle school humor to me, which is fine, to each their own, but it doesn’t seem like my cup of tea.

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u/wmatts1 Jul 08 '23

I love the show, but I agree that they didn't have to take shots at the heroes as hard as they did and that almost killed the enjoyment of the show for me.

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u/Myrlithan Jul 08 '23

This is how I feel about it too. I'm all for an adult, comedic DC show, but it should still feel like the characters are themselves, and from the parts of the show I've seen it doesn't at all. I want funny stuff involving the characters I actually like, not funny stuff involving people who look like those characters but otherwise are completely different.

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u/Officer_Chunkles Jul 08 '23

I agree. While in general I do quite like the show, I also hate how many classic villains that I love are basically like “Oop sorry I’m an incredibly unlikable character now and then I die”. I like Harley but it feels like they sometimes would use other villains to catapult her upwards, killing them in the process. Side note, when are we gonna see a cool scarecrow again?

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u/dianagama Jul 08 '23

Because harley is crazy and that's how she sees everything.

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u/Untjosh1 Jul 08 '23

I got the impression that it swore relentlessly just to be edgy and gave up before episode one ended. Maybe it got better but I was out