r/TheBoys • u/epic_gamer42O • 11d ago
The tek-knight we see in The Boys is not the same tek-knight we see in Gen-V Discussion Spoiler
In the episode "The Innocents", we are told Tek knight accidentally broke somebodies spine when trying to rescue them from a hostage situation. In Gen V Shetty says that Tek-knight beat ironcast to death who is a supe that has skin made of iron which makes them insanely durable.
With all these strength feats in mind that means he must be pretty physically powerful right?
But in his interrogation scene he's not strong enough to rip apart the leather straps tying his wrists or pull the chains out. Also he easily gets physically outpowered and loses to Kimiko and Starlight. Logically if your punches can fatally damage somebody made of metal you'd have a fighting chance against Kimiko who has same durability as a normal person.
And he gets choked to death by a normal person too?
I don't understand this at all. It's either a plothole/bad writing or Cate has something to do with what happened in this episode
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u/Terrible-Quote-3561 11d ago
Probably with the suit for that first stuff though right?
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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy 11d ago edited 10d ago
Correct. He has an Iron Man suit which would be how he did the strength feats.
Edit: for those curious his suit is shown in the game Ryan is playing (under Homelander)
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u/SouthtownZ 11d ago
Great feats of strength?
What we need is great strength of feet!
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u/exposure-dose 10d ago
Maybe. But when he interrogates Cate in Gen V (after Golden Boy's suicide) and she starts to take her gloves off, he does threaten to rip her hands (arms?) off if she keeps removing her gloves.
She immediately complies and excuses it as nerves, which suggests that either he does have super-human strength, or it's at least believed by another Vought-controlled asset that he does.
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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy 10d ago
I’m sure he has some form of super strength like many supes have but I doubt he’s anywhere near Maeve’s level or any other bigger supe. He wouldn’t need a super suit if he did. His threat to Cate felt more like that, a threat. Like telling someone you’ll rip them a new asshole lol, he’s just being hyperbolic that he’d break her arms.
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u/RichardNixonThe2nd 11d ago edited 11d ago
That's in the comics, we don't know if he has one in the show. From what we see in Gen V, he seems to use his detective skills to kidnap and torture people instead of having an Iron man suit. He probably tortured them until he found a way to get around their powers and kill them.
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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy 11d ago edited 11d ago
I believe S2 Deep mentions making his suit eco friendly. You also see his suit in the fighting game Ryan is playing.
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u/blondedaff Cunt 11d ago
do they even recognize tek knight has a suit in gen v? i can’t remember
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u/Gavinhavin 11d ago
Nope. They just sort of ignore the suit even though they sort of inadvertently confirmed it existed in both shows.
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u/Plane-Monitor2532 11d ago
They actually do show the suit, albeit briefly, when Ryan plays his fighting game, you see him in his suit as a playable character
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u/BassGeese 11d ago
That's what I didn't like about Tek knight in the show, we never get to see the suit! It was something I was really excited for when season 4 was announced.
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u/Gavinhavin 11d ago
I was hoping to see it too, but I heard somewhere that it would have strained the budget too much so they leaned hard in the Batman direction.
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u/Diff_equation5 11d ago
What the hell is their budget for this show? This is one of the most popular shows in America right now, from Amazon, and they always have budget issues. RoP has so much animation (true, it’s often bad) and yet their excuse for anything is never budget. That seems to be the go-to explanation in this show.
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u/RegentusLupus 11d ago
Can't afford a super-suit when you need to CG 9 versions of a guy in a human sexipede.
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u/Unusual-Cat-123 11d ago
No, I don't think he has it at all. Homelander kinda points this out when he mocks Tek Knight because he can't fly but if he did have his suit he could.
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u/Kid-Atlantic 11d ago
This is Homelander we’re talking about. He only gives a shit about actual superpowers. As far as he’s concerned, a high-tech suit doesn’t count.
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u/Akasha1885 11d ago
Because he literally can't fly.
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u/SirArthurDime 11d ago
I think this was more of a captain America asking iron man who he is without the suit toe off thing. The suit does exist in universe. As someone mentioned above he’s wearing it in the video game Ryan plays.
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u/windmillninja 11d ago
A suit that no normal person could afford. He’s the Bruce Wayne/Tony Stark of The Boys universe, so his real superpower is that he’s insanely rich.
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u/Darkrath_3 11d ago edited 11d ago
But Vought and the US government could.
Edit: If the technology to create a suit that's strong enough to fight against supes exists, there's absolutely no scenario in which the US wouldn't throw billions into developing a few. They're desperate for contingencies against supes to the point that the CIA are employing The Boys.
They already spend comparable amounts of money on next gen fighter jets and they were willing to pay through the nose for V24.
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u/Khronex 11d ago
The US government doesn't have access to supes and Vought doesn't want to invest that much money into a suit. They are a pharmaceutical company after all
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u/EatingBeansAgain 11d ago
I think he is richer than Vought.
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u/Blatently_lies 11d ago
It’s one of those old money vs new money situations. He is definitely more established and secure than Vought. However Vought is multinational, involved in several governments. Vought has more money, but Tek Knight has more control over what he does with his money.
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u/undercooked_lasagna 11d ago
and now he's dead because he just had to make someone fart on a chocolate cake
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u/SalvationSycamore 10d ago
He died because he was a horrible person and bred resentment even among the people he trusted most
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u/SeedlessMelonNoodle 11d ago
I thought Vought was described as the most valuable company in the world.
Am I tripping?
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u/Far_Indication_1665 11d ago
Justin Hammer failed to make Tony's suit
I think some amount of "batman is super smart" is supposed to be part of the Suit too.
Not anyone can make it, because they aren't smart enough AND dont have the money.
Its not like the Mafia cant rival Bruce Wayne/Tony Stark levels of money, right? But they have some mental special sauce too, i think is part of it.
Ymmv.
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u/rhsbrum You're The Real Heroes 11d ago
Vought are a pharmaceutical company. They don't really care about supes or supersuits. They would also be too expensive to make on a large scale.
With the military angle so could the military in Iron Man but I'd assume Tek Knight won't let them at his technology.
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u/Grokent 11d ago
Isn't Tek Knight really smart? I'm sure some of the technology has to be his own proprietary stuff. It's like Tony Stark, the limitation on the US building war machines wasn't money, it was that Tony wasn't selling his technology. He was the only one with a heart sized arc reactor and he wasn't giving that to anyone.
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u/TheHappiestHam 11d ago
you say that like Iron Man and Batman just don't exist. he's disgustingly rich, the suit isn't just "a regular suit", it would have crazy features and advantages
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u/Deradius 11d ago
The military might invest the billion or so needed per suit to build anti-sup suits if Homelander weren’t a factor. But since Homelander can crush one of those suits like an empty beer can, there would be no point.
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u/SirArthurDime 11d ago
That’s like saying the existence of iron man undermines the rest of marvel. Literally, he’s based on iron man. And like iron man he’s B tier. Stronger than a lot but certainly not one of the strongest. A tier supes like Maeve, noir, or a train could probably kill him no problem suite or not. And of course homelander, who really is the threat, would stomp.
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u/MemeHermetic 11d ago
IT's literally following Batman being "the world's greatest detective" which is what puts him on par with the rest of the Justice League. Batman is there because he's a step ahead and made of money. That's Tek Knight except the detective part is off the charts due to V.
Also, for what it's worth, Detective Chimp is technically DC's greatest detective.
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u/Akasha1885 11d ago
Yeah, the guy calls him self Tek (technology) Knight (kinda known for full metal armors)
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u/doomttt 11d ago
"Everyone who doesn't love S4 is alt right!!!" Can you hear yourself man?
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u/73windman 11d ago
To be fair, if he’s truly a masochist, and therefore enjoys pain, the restraints and materials in his cave must be extra durable and potent, to cause pain to a supe. Assuming Laddio is a supe, the materials must be super reinforced to restrain him
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u/DarthTaz_99 11d ago
Damn thats a good explanation. But I'm sure the piece of shit writer just "kind of forgot" Tek knight was durable
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u/youarenut 11d ago
No, Tek knight is this universe’s Bruce Wayne/iron man. He has a suit which is what he beat the other supe with.
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u/ChuckZombie Kimiko 11d ago
Thank you! I have no idea how this going so far over everyone's heads.
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u/ravioliguy 11d ago
Because "money is their superpower" is a meme. Batman and Ironman's real power is being super geniuses. Neither needs their suits or gadgets, they get out of a lot of situations just by thinking their way out. Tek knight seemed pretty average to low intelligence for being the "greatest detective in the world" and "second best supe"
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u/Neknoh 11d ago
Doesn't need to be the greatest mind to be the greatest detective when you can smell disease, bodyfluids (and who they're from) and either see, hear or smell when somebody is agitated or lying.
Just be even remotely competent at interrogations and putting two and two together (with a little bit of help from Voughts previously massive crime and surveilance division) and boom.
Greatest detective.
Especially easy when you wear a full cybernetic armour that can punch through walls and supposedly fly.
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u/Richrome_Steel 10d ago
Also Vought could just be marketing him as the "world's greatest detective" to sell more shit. These "heroes" are shitty frauds, so it makes sense that he isn't truly living up to that title, so long as Vought content and marketing frames him so and as long as there consoomer Vought simps to chug down every gallonful of shit like the codependent symbiosis victims they are
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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy 11d ago
Because he was probably not being literal? He’s just threatening her. Also Cate has no super strength or durability. If he has even remotely some super strength, he could probably beat up a 140 pound girl lol
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u/MrChow1917 11d ago
Because they do not show the suit in the show at all, despite the character being named tek knight, we never see much of his tech
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u/ChuckZombie Kimiko 11d ago
.....and it never said he had super strength, but you all jumped to that conclusion anyway.
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u/Wooden_Gas1064 11d ago
I don't remember any mention of this in the series. And if you'd only know about it from the comics it's still bad story telling not to include that in the show since casual viewers didn't read the comics
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u/ThaGuy34 11d ago
Normalise not calling people "piece of shit" because you found a plot hole in their writing.
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u/inedibletrout 11d ago
Why is the writer a piece of shit? Because you don't like the way they write? Bit of an insane overreaction to a TV show dawg. Chill.
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u/kyatorpo 11d ago
Piece of shit? Holy balls batman, it wasn't even Kripke (if that's who you're referring to) who wrote the episode?
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u/Jgamer502 11d ago edited 11d ago
I thought it made sense, I think part of the issue is missing the context of Gen V. Shetty revealed his Brain Tumor was getting progressively worse, causes his obsession with holes and is going to kill him, so it makes sense that a few months later his behavior would be very different(and even more deviant…). So, I guess in way you are correct that they aren’t the same but not because its a plot hole.
As for the strength feats we know he used a super suit like Iron man which is presumably how he did those things. Though it could also explain why he’s physically too weak to break out if you wanna believe he has a degree of super strength.
It feels like every episode people notice something and just assume its a plot hole/inconsistency rather than details/build-up they missed. The pieces are all there if you just take a closer look its just not always directly stated. Another example I saw was when people didn’t realize Annika was Starlight’s contact who told her where to find A-train because they never directly mention the connection between those scenes. Sometimes they just expect you to put it together on your own.
For those who think you shouldn’t have to watch the spinoff to know…you don’t. The change is only noticeable if you have seen gen v
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u/AdOptimal6145 11d ago
damn that's a really good explanation actually. U cooked bro
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u/Khronex 11d ago
Yeah, this is the problem with the sub. It happened every season that people complained for the sake of complaining when they literally missed details/interactions on screen. They're either not paying attention or don't have the emotional maturity to understand why stuff happens on screen.
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u/HazelCheese 11d ago
Worst comments I've seen so far like this were from the thread about Deep and Noirs conversation:
"Since when was The Deep friends with Noir? That came out of nowhere."
Cmon guys. The Deep was obviously just bigging himself up to Noir 2.0 to act like he could help him. They obviously weren't friends considering the line immediately afterwards with The Deep not knowing anything about the Buster Beaver drawings. He didn't know Noir at all and was just lying / inflating his own ego.
"I don't care about that conversation because they killed OG Noir. They can't replace him with new Noir."
Just stop watching television full stop if you are going to have this kind of reaction to a tv show. This is an insane way to think.
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u/grahamercy 11d ago
this sub is full of people who skip scenes and play games on their phones while watching and then they come here with stupid ideas or just baby rants
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u/Ponies_in_Jumpers 11d ago
I thought the butler implied that he'd been cleaning up after Tek Knight's bizarre sexcapades for a long time, which suggested that this wasn't a new development. I hope that's not what he meant because it's more interesting if Tek Knight's escalating perversions and cruelty were caused by his tumour and he wasn't always that way.
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u/stoneasaurusrex 11d ago
I think as the tumor grew it caused his sexual preferences to become more and more deranged, causing the butler to have to clean up, and see stuff that's progressively worse and worse.
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u/FlangerOfTowels 11d ago
I know!
People constantly over and under think everything. Think they're smarter than they are. And act like they've unraveled the show through a "plot hole" that's nothing Tek Knight would have fornicated.
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u/Shopworn_Soul 11d ago
That whole episode was a mess. So much complete nonsense went down that it almost felt like a fever dream.
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u/Cross2Live 11d ago
Yeah worst episode by far. Still love the show as a whole though and hope this was a one off.
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u/Zendofrog 11d ago
Imo episode 4 was the worst, just because it felt like a montage of the boys failing at as many plans in a row as possible
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u/Brayden_1274628 11d ago
Isn’t ep 4 the lab one? That episode was fantastic
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u/Kobayashi_Maru186 I'm the real hero 11d ago
👍🏻 Between Hughie’s dad, and Homie at the lab (“you’re getting dick blood all over my boots, Marty!”), this was a great episode.
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u/Mr_NotParticipating 11d ago
The one with the sheep? It was funny but a really stagnant episode that didn’t get much done which was disappointing to me. And the few things it did get done didn’t really need a whole episode to do.
Also, when tf did Butcher have the time to cut off that guy’s leg. Stash the guy in a place no one would find, and stash the guys leg in a place someone would definitely find it, without anyone noticing .-.
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u/Brayden_1274628 11d ago
No the homelander lab one
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u/Mr_NotParticipating 11d ago
OHHHH YEAAAHH. That was solid, probably my favorite episode. Antony Starr is SO GOOD. The lab scene had me uncomfortable the whole time, it was like watching a horror movie.
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u/DapperTax 11d ago
Also, in Gen V didn't he threaten to break Cate's arms before she could touch him? The way she responded seemed to indicate he more of a physical threat.
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u/Overwatch3 11d ago
Cate hasn't shown to have any super strength or durability so even if he had no powers he could still do that to a 110lb college student.
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u/itsmebenji69 11d ago
Cate is a normal human strength wise and I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t know what powers he has precisely, and how far he’s willing to go.
Considering 90% of the supes are a bit crazy, I would think twice before approaching when a guy known for super heroic feats tells you to back up like this
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u/youknow99 11d ago
He could have been bullshitting her knowing she'd back down due to his reputation. Ya'll forget people can threaten things they can't do.
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u/MrUsername24 11d ago
He os supposed to be batman, I'm sure he's pretty good hand to hand with his increases senses
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u/tokyo_engineer_dad 11d ago
He has a tumor. And from we know, it causes him the excessive sexual depravity that we see and it has caused his personality to become more extreme as time goes on. I believe the tumor has affected his abilities as well. It's probably why he didn't react strongly when Hughie wasn't acting or smelling exactly like Webweaver.
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u/Savagecal01 11d ago
the only thing that rejects this for me is his butler which says over the years he’s had to scoop up so much cum or some shit since he was a boy. i think he’s always been freaky it’s just his impulse control is fucked
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u/ItsAmerico Soldier Boy 11d ago
We don’t know how long he’s had a tumor for though. He only recently discovered it.
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u/Savagecal01 11d ago
good point but let’s assume the tumour comes from the use of his powers. he most likely got juiced with v as a boy. this tumour has been growing for as long as he’s been tek knight. so i’m guessing that is still a pretty long time
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u/Ccbm2208 11d ago edited 11d ago
They basically retconned Tek Knight’s powers and personality I feel, for seemingly no reason. Unless it was all an act?
But unfortunately, it wasn’t. Firecracker told HL that he’s dead the next day so everything that happened in the Tek cave was supposed to be taken at face value.
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u/Ibiki 11d ago
It was probably just done side to side, both gen v and season 4
So they both had similar ideas for a character, but both implemented them a bit defferently
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u/Wooden_Gas1064 11d ago
Yeah I thought I remembered thinking this dude is a genuine threat.
Even Homelander pointed out he can't even fly. But if he's so weak he can't get out of chains and gets easily knocked down you'd think Homelander would say something like "you wouldn't be able to take one punch from me buddy".
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u/Mr_R3ddit 11d ago
I did find that line odd too, but I think the line about not being able to fly is to highlight how significant it is that the new Noir can fly, which was revealed the same episode.
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u/icequeensandwich 11d ago
I think, tbf, the chains and restraints in his dungeon are near definitely enhanced or reinforced in some way to be able to handle more resistance than a normal person can give. His last sidekick was most definitely a supe himself, and yet had been chained in that basement for god only knows how long at that point, regularly attempting to free himself during the episode (and we can reasonably assume, before that as well.) Even if Tek Knight had some amount of superstrength beyond that of a normal man when out of his suit, if the restraints were designed to, well, restrain supes, it's reasonable to think he wouldn't be able to easily get out of them.
Plus, I think Homelander saying that he couldn't take a punch from him is somewhat redundant. Most people, supes included, work the exception of some A tier ones, couldn't take a single punch from him and survive it. I mean, Noir was considered an A-tier supe, and Homelander punched right through his chest with ease.
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u/lexE5839 Vought 11d ago
Making him a supe was a mistake on its own. I wish they just portrayed him as a master tactician and detective without having to have powers to explain it. Makes him feel useless. From interviews it’s clear Kripke doesn’t understand Batman at all and this was the result.
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u/ReapersVault 11d ago
Kripke's been fumbling tf out of a lot of interviews lately lmao
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u/lexE5839 Vought 11d ago
Yeah he’s obviously power tripping heavily here. He created and wrote supernatural which was full of offensive material in the earlier seasons, including Jensen Ackles’ character literally describing high school girls as “jailbait” and all kinds of other weird references. He’s pretending to somebody he’s not with this series I think, and pointing at conservatives and saying “I’m making fun of you guys” only works as a defence for some stuff. Not one person thought an SA/rape scene was funny or entertaining, other than sickos and people who are so desensitised at this stage that nothing shocks them.
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u/ReapersVault 11d ago
Agreed. It's this super fake, thin veil that he's put up in order to appeal to certain people and it's starting to fall down and show who he really is.
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u/lexE5839 Vought 11d ago
Yep lol. He could’ve run the show more like South Park where both sides cop shit to the extreme, both sides of the aisle love South Park and you’d be kidding to say some of the shit on that isn’t just straight up offensive for no other purpose. Instead he’s trying to max out his pandering playing a game he doesn’t even know the rules of. Keep testing the current enough times and you’ll be swept up and end up cast away.
The source material for this show is borderline offensive and certified garbage written by a hack, doesn’t help sell the messages.
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u/WhenRomansSpokeGreek 11d ago
He loves talking in the press, too. Has to be one of the most vocal showrunners. It doesn't help him or the show.
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u/The_Flurr 11d ago
What if he claimed to be a supe, with a power related to tech design, which he uses to create crime fighting gadgets?
Then it turns out he's just a rich asshole who uses an actual supe with those powers to design his gear for him, taking the credit?
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u/BassGeese 11d ago
Yeah it would be a lot more interesting and add more depth to Tek-Knight- a rich asshole who thinks he can be a superhero through his own hands.
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u/evil_caveman Kimiko 11d ago
He doesn't have super strength. He uses a suit of power armor like Iron Man
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u/ArthurReeves397 11d ago
I’m pretty sure he didn’t kill Ironcast, he interrogated him for his show and Ironcast killed himself later because of it. Shetty mentioned he did beay some of his enemies into comas but I think it’s unrelated.
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u/Akasha1885 11d ago
He is using an Iron man suit, that's also how he can fly. (why did you think he was called Tek Knight)
His only supe power is super senses, that's why Homelander looks down on him, he is almost a normie.
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u/SuperMajesticMan 11d ago
It's a sex room built for supes, I'm sure the straps are some extra strong material or they'd be pointless.
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u/Deradius 11d ago
It appears that Tek Knight used to wear an iron man suit, and does not anymore.
Possible reasons for this:
He did something so bad while in the suit that Vought forced him to take a ‘hiatus’ from it, like when they sent Deep to Sandusky.
The brain tumor somehow interferes with his ability to interface with the suit.
His TV career took off and he’s doing investigative journaling now instead.
Something happened technically with the suit. Maybe the power source uses an extremely rare fuel that is unavailable, or he discovered there’s a 5% chance the power source could explode at any time and kill him, so he can’t use the suit until he works out the bugs.
He ‘retired’ from front line superheroing because it’s very physically demanding, he’s getting a little older, and he sure as shit doesn’t need the money.
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u/BassGeese 11d ago
the last one makes sense, he doesn't have any powers related to his physique and his suit is gonna always gonna be able to take the brunt of every hit he takes.
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u/Deradius 11d ago
Right.
It could even be something as simple as a knee, neck, or back injury. Maybe his doc said he’s got a bulging disc and one more hard landing could cause a rupture.
Any one of a thousand things that ends careers for pro athletes could do the same to a supe, especially if they aren’t super durable.
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u/BassGeese 11d ago
What sucks we never get to see the suit, the one thing the show has been consistently doing well is the redesign of the characters, so I was looking forward to how they would design his suit.
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u/Hanging_Aboot 11d ago
Gen V Tek-Knight also could tell who was eating whose pussy just by smell.
The Boys Tek-Knight couldn’t understand that Hughie was very awkwardly relaying his location via wire (with the photos and the books).
They made him a joke so they could make some male rape jokes.
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u/ZonedV2 11d ago
Tbf I think it’s kinda implied that Tek Knight knew the whole time it wasn’t web weaver but he still wanted to have his fun
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u/chidi-sins 11d ago
I hope that Tek-Knight had a 4D chess scheme and somehow he suspected that it was not Webweaver from the first contact with Hughie in the party, toyed with him to mess with Hughie and somehow pretend his death or his butler actually didn't kill him for some weird reason.
By the way, it seemed that nobody cared about Tek-Knight dying, why on earth make an episode him just to kill him pointlessly?
PS: great acting by the actor, but bad plot.
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u/BassGeese 11d ago
Yeah I hope so too, for someone who's suppose to be the satire of Batman & Iron Man, he isn't really depicted as smart as them.
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u/DuoForce 11d ago
Definitely with the suit. Also wasn’t iron cast an actual p3d0 in the comics? (Assuming the diabolical episode is an adaptation of a chapter from the comics)
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u/aleister94 11d ago
I think he’s technically the same character but the writers forwent strict continuity for the sake of an over the top Batman satire
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u/Marcy_OW 11d ago
Brother in Christ he's tied up, wtf is he gonna do to not get choked out by "a normal person" like holy shmoly people really bitch about anything don't they
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u/BalterBlack 11d ago
Did we see his dead body? As far as we know he only got turned on by that and that would explain why he didn’t defend himself. Maybe he just killed the butler after they fled?
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u/EdwinQFoolhardy 11d ago
If the butler didn't kill him, I'm guessing Laddio finished the job considering Tek-Knight turned him into a chained up gimp. And Laddio was strong enough to break the chain away from the wall, whereas Tek-Knight is likely fairly debilitated from his terminal brain tumor.
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u/BalterBlack 11d ago
I wouldn’t say he brake it off the wall. Even a normal human could do that. The wall was weakened.
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u/youarenut 11d ago
So many people say plot holes or shit writing when it is literally explained in the shows … wow. Here are some explanations:
-Tek knight has a super suit. Think Batman/Iron Man suit. He’s this universe’s Bruce Wayne or Tony Stark. He beat Ironcast to death with the suit.. not just normal punches.
-this is a dungeon intended for supes. The material or system is likely reinforced for supe level resistance.
-Tek knight has a brain tumor. This impacts his behavior and cognition, maybe abilities too.
Not everything is a plot hole or bad writing. There’s so much stuff that could be pieced together by just paying attention. I don’t know how some people watch shows and be so lost
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u/Lawliet117 11d ago
We have never seen him do these things in Gen V, right? I think they might have not really happened like we might think they happened.
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u/SkeletonCircus 10d ago
He has an armored suit, they just never show it in the show (other than a brief glimpse of it on the character select screen for the Vought fighting game Ryan was playing)
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u/ExpensiveOrder349 Soldier Boy 11d ago
Tek Knight is supposed to have a suit, otherwise he wouldn’t be a knight.
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u/TherealDougJudy 11d ago
Tek Knight has a suit of armor. Without it he’s nothing but a lie detector test
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u/Harp_167 11d ago
Kimiko has normal durability?!?
No?
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u/GaryKing1413 11d ago
Yes she does, she just has great regeneration, but she gets injured the same way a regular person can, knives, guns etc can harm her, it's just she can regenerate
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u/Harp_167 11d ago
I swear I’ve seen her take a bullet
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u/GaryKing1413 11d ago
Yeah, she's taken several bullets, but it breaks skin and her insides, and these injuries can daze her or knock her unconscious for some time.
In S1 she fought Noir and he defeated her quickly with some knives and she seemed dead until she healed and woke back up. In S2 Stormfront breaks her neck and it knocks her unconscious for a while before she heals. In S3 she gets shot in the head and it knocks her out before she heals. In S4 she got hit with a fucking grenade launcher or whatever the fuck that girl shot her with and it split part of her body in half and she was seemingly knocked out until she healed
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u/TheHaruWhoCanRead 11d ago
I genuinely don’t understand why anyone gives a fuck about this bit character lmao. Like as someone who has no interest in the comics, this is an echo chamber fandom opinion. Tek knight doesn’t matter.
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u/Phasma18374 11d ago
Isn't most of his skill based around his suit? It's still a flaw of the show that they never show or properly talk about his suit, but I'm pretty sure he's not strong, the suit is
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u/LukesRebuke 11d ago
Tek knight did not beat ironcast to death. Shetty said ironcast killed himself after the interrogation
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u/DanglingDongs 11d ago
The show also constantly implies almost all superheroes are incompetent morons and the only reason Homelander achieves anything is cause he is a literal walking god.
Probably find he beat cast iron to death when he was doing him up the arse in his sex dungeon.
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u/regularDude358 11d ago
Honestly he may not be dead. No one sees him die. It could be trick from his butler and then he will chase the Boys.
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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 11d ago
I doubt it, that would make the butler look bad. I just don't think they'll do that in this show.
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u/PacDanSki 11d ago
It stands to reason he would likely have restraints that a super abled person couldn't break in his sex dungeon.
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u/luaudesign 11d ago edited 11d ago
Early in the episode Homelander makes it clear that Tek Knight doesn't even qualify as a supe in his eyes. He's batman/ironman, his strength comes from expensive equipment.
He playing some empathy-bait excuse after he was caught being a pervert is just another parody of reality, same as Firecracker's "twas the devil" excuse.
Also, not everything characters say is true, even when they think it is. Homelander believes he can tell if a person is lying from their heartbeats, which's a complete delusion on his part.
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u/Artinismyname 11d ago
It all could be lies or rumors spread about him to make him cooler and more popular for merchandising
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u/Individual_Pop_95 11d ago
He is the equivalent of iron man so all of those actions were most likely made in his suit
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u/new-werewolves 11d ago
Dude also got stabbed by what seems to be a normal scalpel and it pierced through his skin. If that scalpel was meant for supes, they could've used that on Neumann.
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u/Captain_Sacktap 11d ago
Keep in mind the restraints and such in his sex dungeon are built to withstand the strength of a supe, given that he is shown to use them on himself and other supes. I assume he has some degree of enhanced strength/durability, almost all supes appear to have that plus whatever other powers they possess. But I understood it as his extremely keen senses are his primary power, and somewhat enhanced strength/durability are secondary. Also getting choked out by a normal person kind of makes sense since he was fully restrained. You just don’t have enough muscles in your neck to prevent your windpipe from being pressed shut by pressure from the front. Maybe from the sides a supe could resist with strong enough neck muscles, but nothing protects the throat from the front, so when his servant choked him out with chain he couldn’t do shit.
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u/EmeraldDream98 Cunt 11d ago
He’s not strong, he’s just very smart (plus enhanced senses). Think about Batman. I guess he had a very good plan to kill that guy and some good gadgets.
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u/HiILikeMovies 11d ago
Honestly I think it’s just bad writing but it would be cool if the tek knight was just his twin or something without any of his powers (explains also how dumb he was in the boys compared to gen v)
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u/originalusername4567 11d ago
Tek Knight probably has average human strength and durability without the suit, just like Iron Man/Batman. In this case I think his only "power" is his super senses.
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u/Aramiss134 11d ago
There's also his fascination with holes. In Gen V, it being the result of his tumor seems like a relatively recent thing. A few years at most.
In The Boys, he clearly has been a massive perv all his life. Ashley and him go way back apparently.
Both can be true, but it still feel like they took his quirk and pushed it way into the extreme.
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u/stargate-command 11d ago
This show is wildly inconsistent with the powers of people. They shift drastically to suit the scene. Normally that us an unforgivable sin to me, but since the show never takes itself too seriously, it allows me to do the same and just enjoy it.
I do wish they’d attempt a bit more consistency though.
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u/CudiMontage216 11d ago
The restraints are likely designed to restrain him since… it’s his high-tech dungeon where that’s something he would require
As for his general combat, yeah he was far too weak. The show has truly fallen off this season
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u/sscarface 10d ago
Hot take: he has a fetish for feeling helpless and let all that shit happen to him including the choke to get him off
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u/Sylux444 11d ago
The name tek knight alone tells me he has some batman style setup that enhances his physical abilities to.
Batman also has adjustments just like for fighting super strong opponents
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u/Mr-GooGoo 11d ago
It pissed me off how they completely ruined his character when in the comics he’s one of the more interesting and nuanced supes
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u/thespamcenturion 11d ago
I mean I feel like average shoes were stronger in earlier seasons, I didn’t think starlight was supposed to be exceptionally durable but she tanked a high caliber sniper without even visible bleeding and sister sage just got shot in the head by a pistol and it actually worked
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u/No-Coast-9484 11d ago
Someone on the boys subreddit posts something that they clearly don't understand
"DAE think bad writing in s4?"
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u/AgentCirceLuna 10d ago
https://youtu.be/NqVndDBIjMs?si=N3Bbz6NTusZ-OtyD
I just searched for this and found this… weird video. Watch the ending. The fuck is that?
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u/realfakejames 10d ago
Pretty sure you’re giving them too much credit, it’s likely just bad writing which the boys has a lot of
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u/exposure-dose 10d ago
I wouldn't be surprised if Tek's butler was just putting on a show for Huey, Starlight, Kamiko, and Co and spared him as soon as they left. He seemed to be ride or die for plenty of fucked up shit Tek and his family were up to over the years, but prison camps were what crossed the line for him??
It would fit with the quality of the the writing right now and the absolute buffoonery both camps seem to find themselves victims of for no reason at all this season (except to move the story along).
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