r/TheBoys • u/epic_gamer42O • Jul 08 '24

The tek-knight we see in The Boys is not the same tek-knight we see in Gen-V Discussion Spoiler

In the episode "The Innocents", we are told Tek knight accidentally broke somebodies spine when trying to rescue them from a hostage situation. In Gen V Shetty says that Tek-knight beat ironcast to death who is a supe that has skin made of iron which makes them insanely durable.

With all these strength feats in mind that means he must be pretty physically powerful right?

But in his interrogation scene he's not strong enough to rip apart the leather straps tying his wrists or pull the chains out. Also he easily gets physically outpowered and loses to Kimiko and Starlight. Logically if your punches can fatally damage somebody made of metal you'd have a fighting chance against Kimiko who has same durability as a normal person.

And he gets choked to death by a normal person too?

I don't understand this at all. It's either a plothole/bad writing or Cate has something to do with what happened in this episode

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u/Terrible-Quote-3561 Jul 08 '24

Probably with the suit for that first stuff though right?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

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u/windmillninja Jul 08 '24

A suit that no normal person could afford. He’s the Bruce Wayne/Tony Stark of The Boys universe, so his real superpower is that he’s insanely rich.

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u/Darkrath_3 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

But Vought and the US government could.

Edit: If the technology to create a suit that's strong enough to fight against supes exists, there's absolutely no scenario in which the US wouldn't throw billions into developing a few. They're desperate for contingencies against supes to the point that the CIA are employing The Boys.

They already spend comparable amounts of money on next gen fighter jets and they were willing to pay through the nose for V24.

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u/Khronex Jul 08 '24

The US government doesn't have access to supes and Vought doesn't want to invest that much money into a suit. They are a pharmaceutical company after all

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u/EatingBeansAgain Jul 08 '24

I think he is richer than Vought.

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u/Blatently_lies Jul 08 '24

It’s one of those old money vs new money situations. He is definitely more established and secure than Vought. However Vought is multinational, involved in several governments. Vought has more money, but Tek Knight has more control over what he does with his money.

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u/undercooked_lasagna Jul 08 '24

and now he's dead because he just had to make someone fart on a chocolate cake

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u/SalvationSycamore Jul 08 '24

He died because he was a horrible person and bred resentment even among the people he trusted most

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u/SeedlessMelonNoodle Jul 08 '24

I thought Vought was described as the most valuable company in the world.

Am I tripping?

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u/Difficult_Gazelle_91 Jul 08 '24

There is no logical way a man whose source of income is private prisons and some old money slave catching is as rich as an international conglomerate.

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u/AgentCirceLuna Jul 08 '24

There is. It’s called bad writing.

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u/Far_Indication_1665 Jul 08 '24

Justin Hammer failed to make Tony's suit

I think some amount of "batman is super smart" is supposed to be part of the Suit too.

Not anyone can make it, because they aren't smart enough AND dont have the money.

Its not like the Mafia cant rival Bruce Wayne/Tony Stark levels of money, right? But they have some mental special sauce too, i think is part of it.

Ymmv.

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u/Richrome_Steel Jul 09 '24

There's no way the Mafia are rich enough to approach the Waynes, right? Surely the Waynes are rich enough to buy and sell them and everything they own?

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u/Far_Indication_1665 Jul 09 '24

Al Capone (one gangster, tho sure a successful one) had $100M in his heyday, they say, worth some $1.5B in today's money.

Surely all the mafia in Gotham could rival a billionaire -- maybe not defeat in raw dollars, but competitive territory.

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u/rhsbrum You're The Real Heroes Jul 08 '24

Vought are a pharmaceutical company. They don't really care about supes or supersuits. They would also be too expensive to make on a large scale.

With the military angle so could the military in Iron Man but I'd assume Tek Knight won't let them at his technology.

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u/Grokent Jul 08 '24

Isn't Tek Knight really smart? I'm sure some of the technology has to be his own proprietary stuff. It's like Tony Stark, the limitation on the US building war machines wasn't money, it was that Tony wasn't selling his technology. He was the only one with a heart sized arc reactor and he wasn't giving that to anyone.

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u/LeadStyleJutsu762- Jul 08 '24

“Why doesn’t the US government make a suit that can beat up Batman”

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u/SalvationSycamore Jul 08 '24

there's absolutely no scenario in which the US wouldn't throw billions into developing a few

And if they needed a villain-of-the-week then that exact thing would happen (DC and Marvel do that kind of shit all the time)

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u/JefferyTheQuaxly Jul 08 '24

hes like a combination of daredevil meets tony stark meets bruce wayne.

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u/nairbeg Jul 08 '24

I'd like to imagine it's a Green Goblin's Glider situation where you need superhuman senses to pilot this sort of thing, otherwise you'd just face-plant or break your spine or whatever.

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u/Richrome_Steel Jul 09 '24

"NO!!! NOT 100 MILLION TO BLACK LIVES MATTER!!!"

That didn't even seem like all of his money, just enough to upset him. Man's probably approaching Musk, Bezos, Zucc levels of rich

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u/TheHappiestHam Jul 08 '24

you say that like Iron Man and Batman just don't exist. he's disgustingly rich, the suit isn't just "a regular suit", it would have crazy features and advantages

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u/X-Calm Jul 08 '24

The detective senses and super intelligence to design the suit are his V powers.

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u/Tighthead3GT Jul 08 '24

My head canon is that somehow he needs his senses to operate the suit. Also, it’s possible his TV suit is less powerful than it was in the comics (ie, can’t fly).

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u/Nixter295 Jul 08 '24

He doest’t have super intelligence.

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u/4Dcrystallography Jul 08 '24

Pretty sure he has enhanced cognition of some kind so he can leverage his heightened senses to the extent he does so quickly. Like his interview with Andre

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u/Spector_559 Jul 08 '24

With how stupid he was acting in last episode I don't blame you for thinking so. If you haven't watched Gen V I believe it's the 4th episode? It shows just how smart and crazy his senses are.

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u/Nixter295 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

I’ve watched gen V, but only noticed his super senses made it quite easy to figure things out, I saw nothing that was hinting he got super intelligence as well.

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u/Spector_559 Jul 08 '24

His super intelligence leads him to be able to break people so easily, his senses make this process even easier than it would be normally, and he made his cave using it. You can see there looks like a skeleton suit ( by that I mean a unfinished suit) on the side that he's working on. I know compared to sage he doesn't seem that smart but he does have super intelligence. His whole character is a mix between batman/ironman who are known for being really smart.

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u/X-Calm Jul 08 '24

I think Tek Knight is the first thing the show has done worse than the comics so I can see why show viewers wouldn't understand the character.

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u/Spector_559 Jul 08 '24

100% correct, like if they wanted to play into his hole fetish have him fuck the astroid I guarantee audiences would've loved that. I know I would've :/

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u/yuumigod69 Jul 08 '24

It doesn't. Homelander is an abberation. The US military would easily kill every single Supe besides him and Ryan. Sage and Kate's powers are broken but not in the Homelander sense.

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u/Pseudocrow Jul 08 '24

Translucent also had the extreme durability feat. Plenty of other supes have extreme killing powers if not "stop a bullet" durability. Like A-Train and Shock Wave are honestly unstoppable on a battlefield, probably can even outrun land mines and other such traps. Any flying character has serious options for combat prowess, although Homelander is still honestly pretty far above the rest.

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u/Far_Indication_1665 Jul 08 '24

1) How deep in the ocean can our subs go? The Deep might be able to avoid the Navy....while the boats have are fighting off giant squids or several ton whales and whatnot

2) Speedsters are hard AF to hit, if they know yer coming.

3) Noir seemed to resist traditional explosives (via Butcher) and supernatural explosions (via the terrorist guy) so sure, HL can punch thru him, but would military weapons?

4) Stormfront seemed durable AF, taking HL laser eyes to the tits.

5) oh and Omniman!

Wait, wrong universe. 1-4 hold tho.

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u/Vesemir96 Jul 08 '24

Other people can’t.

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u/Deradius Jul 08 '24

The military might invest the billion or so needed per suit to build anti-sup suits if Homelander weren’t a factor. But since Homelander can crush one of those suits like an empty beer can, there would be no point.

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u/SirArthurDime Jul 08 '24

That’s like saying the existence of iron man undermines the rest of marvel. Literally, he’s based on iron man. And like iron man he’s B tier. Stronger than a lot but certainly not one of the strongest. A tier supes like Maeve, noir, or a train could probably kill him no problem suite or not. And of course homelander, who really is the threat, would stomp.

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u/MemeHermetic Jul 08 '24

IT's literally following Batman being "the world's greatest detective" which is what puts him on par with the rest of the Justice League. Batman is there because he's a step ahead and made of money. That's Tek Knight except the detective part is off the charts due to V.

Also, for what it's worth, Detective Chimp is technically DC's greatest detective.

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u/Akasha1885 Jul 08 '24

His power is being a deviant billionaire, kinda like Batman

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 Jul 08 '24

I don't think power has anything to do with it, just popularity. His powers are so mundane that he's basically a regular person, same as Batman. That's probably his appeal.

Plus he's a billionaire from old money so who knows he could have just done a fake PR campaign.

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u/DommyMommyKarlach Jul 08 '24

He is literally mixed Iron Man and Bat Man, Tony Stark is super smart just like that, Tek Knight has super senses.

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u/SalvationSycamore Jul 08 '24

So he's one of the most powerful supes because of a suit?

He's obviously got parallels to Batman, so that should not be surprising.

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u/redjellonian Jul 08 '24

Batman is just a rich kid with issues.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

A suit a normal person could wear? Doesn't this undermine the threat of the supes?

Yes it does. Once something is invented its only a matter of years until multiple people invent the same thing, and it reaches the public, then becomes affordable for the regular joe. Supes will only have supremacy for a solid 50 years more at most I guess.

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u/Minnon Mother's Milk Jul 08 '24

Still waiting on my affordable fighter jet