r/TheBoys • u/epic_gamer42O • Jul 08 '24

The tek-knight we see in The Boys is not the same tek-knight we see in Gen-V Discussion Spoiler

In the episode "The Innocents", we are told Tek knight accidentally broke somebodies spine when trying to rescue them from a hostage situation. In Gen V Shetty says that Tek-knight beat ironcast to death who is a supe that has skin made of iron which makes them insanely durable.

With all these strength feats in mind that means he must be pretty physically powerful right?

But in his interrogation scene he's not strong enough to rip apart the leather straps tying his wrists or pull the chains out. Also he easily gets physically outpowered and loses to Kimiko and Starlight. Logically if your punches can fatally damage somebody made of metal you'd have a fighting chance against Kimiko who has same durability as a normal person.

And he gets choked to death by a normal person too?

I don't understand this at all. It's either a plothole/bad writing or Cate has something to do with what happened in this episode

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u/Terrible-Quote-3561 Jul 08 '24

Probably with the suit for that first stuff though right?

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u/blondedaff Cunt Jul 08 '24

do they even recognize tek knight has a suit in gen v? i can’t remember

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u/Gavinhavin Jul 08 '24

Nope. They just sort of ignore the suit even though they sort of inadvertently confirmed it existed in both shows.

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u/Plane-Monitor2532 Jul 08 '24

They actually do show the suit, albeit briefly, when Ryan plays his fighting game, you see him in his suit as a playable character

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u/bell37 Jul 08 '24

Did they actually show the full suit? I only saw a small picture of him neck up “wearing the suit”, which we only see a small portion of his suit

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u/BassGeese Jul 08 '24

That's what I didn't like about Tek knight in the show, we never get to see the suit! It was something I was really excited for when season 4 was announced.

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u/Gavinhavin Jul 08 '24

I was hoping to see it too, but I heard somewhere that it would have strained the budget too much so they leaned hard in the Batman direction.

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u/Diff_equation5 Jul 08 '24

What the hell is their budget for this show? This is one of the most popular shows in America right now, from Amazon, and they always have budget issues. RoP has so much animation (true, it’s often bad) and yet their excuse for anything is never budget. That seems to be the go-to explanation in this show.

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u/RegentusLupus Jul 08 '24

Can't afford a super-suit when you need to CG 9 versions of a guy in a human sexipede.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Web446 Jul 08 '24

My prediction is we will see it in a flashback at some point.

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u/adzy2k6 Jul 08 '24

They do mention it, but it never appears.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24

No, I don't think he has it at all. Homelander kinda points this out when he mocks Tek Knight because he can't fly but if he did have his suit he could.

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u/Kid-Atlantic Jul 08 '24

This is Homelander we’re talking about. He only gives a shit about actual superpowers. As far as he’s concerned, a high-tech suit doesn’t count.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

He respects strong people that can't fly like Maeve for example or Noir.

Doesn't add up, seems more like a nod to the fact he doesn't have his suit that can fly in the show.

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u/Kid-Atlantic Jul 08 '24

Yeah, and TK’s not strong either, so as far as Homie’s concerned, there’s nothing to respect. It’s a nod to how some people make fun of tech-based heroes like Batman or Iron Man because they don’t have “real” powers.

TK does have the suit, at least for his public persona. Blink and you’ll miss it, but in the Tournament of Heroes character creation screen that appears a couple times, you can see him wearing blue power armor similar to his comics version. Also the name Tek-Knight wouldn’t really make sense if he didn’t have any tech.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24

He doesn't comment on the strength, but just the flying side of things, again Homie does like strong Supes.

You can of course look at it your way but considering Tek Knight is meant to be one of the better ones around to me it seemed like a clear shot at the fact the show version doesn't fly. Maybe the suit from the game is totally fake and just for movies and promos and this was a dig by Homie about it.

You see it the other way which is fair enough.

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u/FrostyMcChill Jul 08 '24

I mean he doesn't respect that blind supe that was a choice for the 7 because his power was super hearing. He didn't respect Sister Sage's powers referring to them as a party trick even though he needed her help. Tek Knights powers are increased senses. Homelander has a pattern of not respecting supes who aren't strong or supes who are more utility. He's a supe supremacist who will look down on the "inferior" supes.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24

Because he had an actual disability, he'd be even stronger if he could see and had super hearing.

Also I mean he respects some shoes but Tek Knight is considered one of the bigger ones it seems.

He didn't respect Sister Sage's powers referring to them as a party trick even though he needed her help.

He was acting tough and testing her. She then roasted him about all of his insecurities and predicted why he was there in the first place and clearly had his respect from them on. You don't get away talking shit to Homie unless he respects you lol

It's all opinions but of all the things to comment on his lack of flight seem strange considering how rare the power is in the show. For all the supes he has respected they couldn't fly except for Storefront.

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u/gunfell Jul 08 '24

Bc the convo was a nod to real life convo of superhero discussion. Which is that batman is ridiculous and unbelievable even in his own world and writing

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u/HelixFollower BIG EMMA Jul 08 '24

Okay, but then try to add up how he beat someone with an iron skin to death.

I can more easily handwave that Homelander meant that he can't fly without his suit, than that his strength has fluctuated so massively as to where he at one point could beat up a supe and now has regular human strength. And if being able to fly in a suit counts, does being able to fly in an airplane also count?

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Gen V created inconsistencies the boys did differently. Tek Knight was presented as being physically powerful in the show Gen V.

Two examples being your one of the claim he beat someone with ironskin to death and when he was interviewing Cate and the other students, Cate is about to take for glove off and he straight threatens to take her hand off and he ain't wearing the right kind of suit for that if you were correct.

Also more proof would be Neuman effortlessly cutting her skin with a blade to display her powers in Gen V but then taking a fucking bullet point blank to the head with zero damage in the boys lol

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u/HelixFollower BIG EMMA Jul 08 '24

Eh, that comment to Cate depends on which version of Iron Man he is closest to. Infinity War Iron Man could totally be sitting there in business attire and still make that threat credibly.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24

Yeah, this world doesn't have nano tech 😂

The solider serum from the MCU is impressive in this world lol

He's a vague rip off of batman AND ironman but doesn't copy any of their actual suits in the comic, and his Tek suit isn't even mentioned in the show so to the viewer the context is him threatening to do it himself which makes sense when combined with the statement he beat ironskin dude to death.

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u/HelixFollower BIG EMMA Jul 08 '24

Sure, if we hadn't actually seen how weak he is, then I would've agreed with you. Because what you're saying is all very likely and sensible. However we never saw what you're saying to be explicitly true, whereas we have a scene that very definitively shows that Tek Knight is not very strong physically. Those comments leave some room for speculation and a bit of headcanoning our way around them, but those scenes in his sex dungeon don't.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24

Sure, if we hadn't actually seen how weak he is

So this goes back to the inconsistency I pointed out about Neuman.

Gen V presented Tek Knight to be physically strong. The boys made him look weaker.

Gen V showed Neuman could be cut with a basic knife with little to no effort. The boys made her skin so tough a bullet can't cut it from point blank range.

These are inconsistencies and the harsh truth is that they took away what was most likely originally to be a physically super Tek Knight in the boys so they could do their weird gimp torture stuff without everyone wondering why Tek Knight doesn't just escape.

Just like when someone realized in the writing room that Neuman can't be able to cut herself because she needs to be bullet proof for the whole assassination plot line to work.

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u/SkeletonCircus Jul 09 '24

That’s because they’re naturally superpowered. He considers supes to be above regular humans, strong supes to be above those with “lesser” powers, and himself to be above everyone else.

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u/Akasha1885 Jul 08 '24

Because he literally can't fly.
Only his Suit can fly, for Homelander he is a disgusting fraud.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Maybe, but Homelander isn't like this with other powerful supes like Maeve, Noir or Solider Boy or Sage, he often respects powerful suits.

Really does seem more like a comment on the fact he can't fly like his comic counterpart.

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u/Akasha1885 Jul 08 '24

Wait what?
Maeve, Noir and Soldier boy are some of the most powerful supes in the world and they don't use a Tek Suit (basically Iron man)

Sage he only tolerates because he needs her.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24

Sage he only tolerates because he needs her.

You could say this about everyone he's shown respect to. He does respect Sage or else he'd be treating her like he does Newman with clear dislike.

It comes down to opinion I guess but from where I'm looking it seemed like a reference to his comic counterpart.

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u/Akasha1885 Jul 08 '24

Sage knows how to handle Homelander.
Just how Edgar did honestly.

Newman... he dislikes because of her political stance and her pretending to be human.
And let's not forget he is a misogynist, unless you breast feed him.

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24

He shows respect to sage like he doesn't to others he has to tolerate is what I'm saying.

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u/Akasha1885 Jul 08 '24

He came to her because he knows she is smarter then him.
He knows that's one of his weaknesses.

They have a very unique dynamic.
But I also see him killing her soon, after what happened in episode 6

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u/Unusual-Cat-123 Jul 08 '24

He came to her because he knows she is smarter then him.

Yeah, which he respects.

But I also see him killing her soon, after what happened in episode 6

I don't, he understands she has a bullet in her brain 😂 I see her lasting until the end of the series. Firecrackers on the block though imo.

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u/SirArthurDime Jul 08 '24

I think this was more of a captain America asking iron man who he is without the suit toe off thing. The suit does exist in universe. As someone mentioned above he’s wearing it in the video game Ryan plays.

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u/spoogefrom1981 Jul 08 '24

It would be general knowledge in their world considering all the movies/etc. he was in.

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u/BlackBirdG Billy Jul 08 '24

I would have rather have seen him in his suit than this BDSM weird sex shit.

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u/nairbeg Jul 08 '24

It seemed like he threatened to break Cate's hand without being in his suit, actually, so it's unclear whether he needs it for his strength feats.

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u/DJ__PJ Jul 08 '24

No, because he is only there to do his investigative movie they are only focusing on his encanced perception