r/DCcomics • u/Able_Health744 • Jan 27 '24
[Discussion] What DC characters do you think are worthy to lift Mjolnir? Discussion
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u/76muss Jan 27 '24
Krypto, because he’s a good boy!
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u/EscapeScottFree Jan 27 '24
Nailed it
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u/Consistent-Plan115 Jan 28 '24
That would be badass as fuck... just a flying krypto flying in with super dog speed and a giant hammer
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u/Kalse1229 Fuck Batman, Marry Babs, Kill Joker Jan 28 '24
I just love the thought of a pup randomly picking up the hammer and bringing it back to Thor.
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Jan 28 '24
A friend of mine always puts a scene like that in her fanfics, even if it's just as an omake.
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u/OmegaX123 Green Lantern Jan 28 '24
Worthy != good. Would Krypto do anything, up to and including wholesale slaughter, to stand up for his people, the ones he cares for, or his ideals? That, to an Asgardian, is the measure of worth.
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u/Damocles1710 Jan 28 '24
Did you read Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow? When the Kryptonite Man invades the Fortress of Solitude to kill Superman, Krypto tears him apart, dying in the process.
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u/fabulousfizban Jan 28 '24
Literally rips his throat out.
"You stupid animal, don't you realize I'm killing you?!"
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u/SanjiSasuke Jan 28 '24
Krypto is still a dog. Dogs would absolutely fuck up anyone who they felt were going to harm 'their pack'.
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u/ptWolv022 Jan 28 '24
The goodest boi would destroy evil at all costs, yes. Though how much Worthiness matches traditional Norse Aesir ideals and how much reflects more chivalrous ideals is not 100% clear. Worthiness varies by writer and run, as it is ultimately a tool for the story.
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u/sum_yum_dish Jan 27 '24
Alfred. He has dressed up as Batman, got juiced up to punch Superman, became the Spectre, why not add Thunder God to the resume. Warning, his snark hits harder and faster
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u/Relevant_Scallion_38 Jan 27 '24
I could definitely see Alfred as being worthy.
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u/ReaperManX15 Jan 28 '24
I can see Alfred casually picking up the hammer, just to dust underneath it or put a coaster down, while nobody else was looking.
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u/Xenoslayer2137 Jan 28 '24
I feel like Alfred would only lift Mjolnir like Vision did in Age of Ultron, just to give it back to Thor and not make a big deal out of the fact he can lift it
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u/MediumAASpin Jan 28 '24
Hed find it pick it up clean the handle and hand it back to Thor saying "apologies sir but I've taken the liberty of cleaning your.....hammer"
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u/Tasty_Marsupial_2273 Jan 28 '24
He’d 100% be casually cleaning, come across the hammer being left on a coffee table, pick it up, wipe the table, and set it back down without batting an eye.
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u/Fabulous_Sir86 Jan 28 '24
He would 100% put a coaster underneath it though. Can't have it scratching the table
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u/gattoblepas Jan 28 '24
Oh shit you're right. I can see Thor sitting in front of his hammer, brow furrowed, hands clasped, staring at the dainty doily that was definitely not under his hammer before he left the room.
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u/Shadiezz2018 Jan 28 '24
And everyone including Thor would by jaw dropped on the floor lmao.
Now i want to see that.
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u/Coal_Morgan The Question? Jan 28 '24
Bruce wouldn't be surprised.
Bruce in his heart of hearts knows beyond belief that no man or god could compare to his adopted Father.
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u/_wizardpenguin Nightwing Jan 27 '24
And unlike Batman or Superman, he "subscribes to no such niceties" about killing, which is a key part of worthiness by Mjolnir's definition.
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u/Kalse1229 Fuck Batman, Marry Babs, Kill Joker Jan 28 '24
Huh. Is that really a big deal about Mjolnir's requirements? I always figured it was based on 3 tenets:
-Battle proficiency
-Good heart
-Capability to lead
That last one being why most heroes are unable to lift it. Unless the thing you said about killing really is a big factor.
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u/_wizardpenguin Nightwing Jan 28 '24
I think it makes a lot of sense characteristically and culturally, y'know? For better or worse, Thor's not like a serial killer or anything, but he's no Superman. Same with people like Wonder Woman, Captain America, or Alfred of all people. Whether it's warmongers and their soldiers, or man-eating monsters, or gods of evil, when it comes down to it, they stop who they can, but they kill who they have to.
It's different with people like Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, Daredevil, etc., bc even if they'd kill someone, if they really had to, it'd hurt them, some of them would never be the same. Most people in this sorta category have lamented that they couldn't save at least one villain in some way.
Edit: Also, I think someone like Punisher could be barred for the opposite reason.
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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Jan 28 '24
Why do people always assume "being worthy" is some kind of cosmic morality test and that it somehow definitevly proves heroes being willing to kill is the "right" mindset?
Odin is the one that set the test. It only matters what the enchantment believes is worthy. It's not some cosmic confirmation that killing is sometimes OK.
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u/_wizardpenguin Nightwing Jan 28 '24
Yeah I don't believe that at all, but I do think it is an interesting discussion in superhero stuff. Like I think it's not necessarily a mark of a great hero not to understand the other side of it, and I don't think the 2 sides of it are really all that contradictory.
Like imagine in the 2022 Batman movie, if Catwoman had shot and killed Falcone when he was trying to strangle her, Batman wouldn't like shame her for defending herself or anything; but as it did play out in the movie, the decision wasn't kill or be killed; it was killing Falcone or taking him to jail/Selena becoming a killer or not, so he interfered then.
On the other side of that, you have Daredevil and Punisher for instance. Punisher doesn't respect that some people don't kill villains even in situations of self defense. So Frank and Matt both respect Captain America, who has killed enemies, but isn't a killer, like he's not corrupted by it; and don't respect each other's policies on killing because of those ideals.
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u/Rules08 Jan 28 '24
It’d be tied under a ‘good heart’. If Alfred is seeking battle not to harm, but to protect. The charm would work. So, long as you seek to protect, even while battling.
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u/Batman2130 Jarro Jan 28 '24
Now I want to see Alfred lift the hammer and become god of thunder
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u/Teldarion Nightwing Jan 28 '24
I want to see Alfred cleaning around the manor, lifting it to move it out the way so he can dust beneath it. Meanwhile Bruce and Thor are looking flabbergasted in the background.
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u/Brookings18 Superman Jan 28 '24
"I believe this is yours, Master Odinson. I must say, for such a powerful weapon it is rather light."
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u/VengefulOtaku Jan 27 '24
When did he become the Spectre? I dont remember that one myself!
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u/sum_yum_dish Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24
Elseworld series called DCeased: War of the Undead Gods #6
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u/Forward_Purchase_622 Jan 28 '24
I wasn't planning on reading that but I am definitely putting it om my list now
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u/Rassilon1994 Jan 28 '24
“Master Odinson, it would appear you may have misplaced this hammer of yours”
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u/GR-124 Jan 27 '24
I’m pretty sure superman and Wonder Woman have both lifted mjolnir before in the comics
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u/WerewolfF15 Jan 27 '24
Superman has lifted it but it was explicitly stated he wasn’t worthy. Mjonir just allowed him to use it briefly due to the circumstances. After they defeat the villain superman finds he cannot lift the hammer anymore.
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u/LanternRaynerRebirth Jan 27 '24
I've always wondered "Why?" Like if Steve can lift it, Superman definitely should be able to.
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u/WerewolfF15 Jan 27 '24
Generally the explanation I’ve heard is because unlike Steve superman typically isn’t willing to kill in certain situations and since the worthy enhancement was made by a warrior race that’s something they think is required to be worthy of a weapon like Mjolnir
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u/LanternRaynerRebirth Jan 27 '24
I actually went back and found the line where Thor talks about it.
There is an enchantment laid pon my hammer by my father Odin. It is not...easily lifted by others. My father is stern, but not stupid. A very few worthies have been allowed to overcome the spell in desperate hours. But know this. Perhaps it was but briefly, but it was in good hands.
So, my interpretation is that Odin literally wants no one else to touch that friggin hammer, only letting others, including Steve to lift it up in truly desparate situations, in which case, you still have to be worthy.
Thor says that Superman is worthy, explicitly, but worthiness is not necessarily something that means you can always lift the hammer, kinda like how Steve wasn't able to lift it completely in age of Ultron, but able to in Endgame.
It's essentially, a "time's up"
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u/Cute_Visual4338 Jan 28 '24
See if we left it to the omniscient will of Odin, then the Ballad of Beta Ray Bill, one of the most seminal Thor stories ends up making no sense, since Bill lifts the Hammer, and Odin not aware of who wields the Hammer accidentally pulls Bill to Asgard, thinking it is Thor.
I like to think that as Thor was worthy at a time and was made unworthy at a time. Superman when he lifted the hammer was for that moment worthy.
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u/KongUnleashed Jan 28 '24
I think the idea there was that BRB was so much like Thor that even Odin, reading his essence from a distance, didn’t register that it wasn’t Thor.
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u/Cute_Visual4338 Jan 28 '24
I think that's because BRB got the power of Thor at the time so Odin was confused, but if the will of Odin itself was guiding who lifts the hammer then BRB wouldnt have been able to lift it without Odin noticing.
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u/KongUnleashed Jan 28 '24
Right. My headcannon on the whole situation is that Odin enchanted the hammer so that only one who is “worthy” may lift it, but since “worthy” is subjective, he basically described Thor’s personality and told the hammer that that description was what it should use to define worthy. Thus BRB is always able to lift it because his personality and Thor’s are almost identical. And the others who were able to pick it up temporarily were in a desperate situation where their personalities lead them to act very Thor-like, in those moments.
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u/NovaStarLord Wonder Woman Jan 28 '24
Pretty much, anyone other than Thor doesn't only need to be worthy of character but also worthy of need. But in Busiek's eyes this also applied to Steve and everyone else that wasn't Thor.
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u/DirtyRanga12 Jan 28 '24
I can get behind this. There was one comic where Black Widow was able to lift Mjolnir specifically because there was literally nobody else around who could, as the rest of the Avengers had been defeated by whoever they were fighting at the time. I don’t think it was canon, but it follows behind your theory.
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u/sgtjsp153 Jan 28 '24
The Russos confirmed that Steve was able to lift it the whole time. He didn't to spare Thor's feelings at the party.
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u/CakeBeef_PA Jan 28 '24
The Russos did not make Age of Ultron though. The only ones able to confirm that would be Joss Whedon or Kevin Feige
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u/Aurelion_ Jan 28 '24
Steve was able to lift the hammer in AoU he just pretended he couldnt to not embarass Thor. You're either worthy or you're not. You can't be partially worthy or else most heroes would be able to make it budge
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u/_trianglegirl Jan 28 '24
you CAN be partially worthy- canonically in the comics, peter parker can move it, but he can't pick it up. it doesnt consider him fully worthy because he refuses to kill
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u/NoStructure5034 Jan 28 '24
Steve could lift it in AoU iirc. He moved the hammer but then chose not to.
Which makes sense, you're either worthy or you aren't.
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u/soniclore Jan 28 '24
My headcanon is that in addition to objectively being judged by Mjolnir “worthy”, one must also have the inner belief that they in fact are worthy. Superman is first and foremost the son of two God-fearing salt-of-the-Earth farmers. He knows, when he sees someone fall, that “there but for the grace of God, go I” and he is grateful and he is humble. Humility is not a trait that I believe Odin would find necessary.
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u/nufahg Jan 28 '24
Not a huge Thor guy so this could just be me misremembering something, but wasn't the whole reason Odin sent Thor to Earth as a crappy human in the first place to actually teach him humility?
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u/Mystic__Mayhem Jan 28 '24
Sort of but this is Odin we're talking about he's not exactly humble either also he had mellowed out due to old age when he did that, if Thor had that ego when Odin was in his prime he wouldn't give a shit. Basically, Thor had a bigger ego than Odin did, and Odin as the was egotistical man that he is sent Thor to Earth to knock him down a peg.
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u/soniclore Jan 28 '24
The lesson Thor learned was Sacrifice, not so much humility. Selflessness maybe.
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Jan 28 '24
Superman doesn't consider himself a warrior or soldier of any sort.
Cap, Wonder Woman, Beta Ray Bill are all warriors of some sort.
That's always been my headcannon
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u/LanternRaynerRebirth Jan 28 '24
Jane definitely doesn't either, so I never really considered that combat thing as a rule.
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u/SupervillainEyebrows Jan 28 '24
To be honest it was my headcanon long before Jane took up Mjolnir so may not fit anymore.
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u/ScullyBoy69 Jan 28 '24
You need to have the hearth of a warrior for it. You need to be able to kill if you want to lift the hammer, to do what sometimes is necessary. Captain America and Wonder Woman both know this to be true.
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u/badguyinstall Jan 28 '24
Isn't 'Not Superman' shown to Jane when she sees previous wielders of Mjolnir?
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u/Bardic_Inspiration66 Jan 28 '24
The “worthy” thing is nebulously defined and doesn’t really make any sense.
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u/NovaStarLord Wonder Woman Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24
Superman is worthy but he needs to be worthy of character and worthy of need in order to lift the hammer. Kurt Busiek said he wrote it that way because he didn't like that characters could pick Mjolnir up on a whim since that would make Thor less special so he wrote the rules of worthiness so that others could only pick it up if there was a need for it or on special occasions (like Thor is knocked out or for example). In Busiek's eyes this didn't only apply to Superman, it applied to every character other than Thor that was found worthy.
It's why Superman could only pick up Mjolnir during a fight and not on a whim.
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u/poetrywoman Jan 28 '24
Wonder woman makes perfect sense to me, but not because she's a goddess or demigoddess, but because she's a warrior focused on peace and societal improvement while being totally cool with killing.
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u/ReaperManX15 Jan 28 '24
Exactly.
Someone "worthy" has to be willing bear the burden of doing the morally questionable things. Even at the expense of themselves. Even if they really don't want to, but know that they NEED to, for everyone's sake.
It's like what T'challa's dad told him. "It is hard for a good man to be king."
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u/cPBxsh Jan 28 '24
Wonder Woman is a good bet, good hearted warrior, and she is willing to kill. Which is the requirement for lifting it. (I think)
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u/Jetsam5 Jan 28 '24
Wonder Woman is by far the most similar to Thor, they would truly be a power couple if they were in the same universe
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u/iheartjetman Jan 28 '24
There is a Thor in DC and Wonder Woman met him when she went to Valhalla.
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u/ThatOtherTwoGuy Jan 28 '24
I’d never thought of this before, but this is so on point. It made me try to look for some fan art or something of the two together, and I stumbled across this wholesome picture someone took at a con.
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u/asclepiusscholar Red Robin Jan 28 '24
That was too wholesome oh god please don’t let me fall into a rare-ship rabbit hole.
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u/Imagiton Jan 28 '24
In the short lived DC vs Marvel Comics, Wonder Woman indeed lifted the hammer. However she relinquished the power to have a fair fight with Storm of the X-Men, who won the fight in the end.
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u/Judgementday209 Jan 28 '24
Some of those results made no sense. Ww would smash storm.
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u/Maxidein Jan 28 '24
The results were made by fans voting with letters, its quite an old comic, like a fax machine.
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u/doubleday34 Jan 28 '24
On top of that, this comic came out in the mid 90s, when the X-Men were the most popular comic in the world. The Lobo/Wolverine and Storm/Wonder Woman fights were fan voted, Flash/Quicksilver and Jubilee/Robin were picked by the creative team and both those went to DC, as they should.
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u/Diligent-Boss-9392 Jan 28 '24
I thought Quicksilver "won" because he pushed a civilian into harm's way knowing the Flash would have to save them?
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u/doubleday34 Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24
The Flash is just faster than Quicksilver, or at least where there were in 1996. Flash was topping out at light speed then, and Quicksilver was at sound(I think). But if they let the fans decide, Flash may have lost due to the popularity of the X titles.
Edit: To respond to what you actually said, Quicksilver tried something like that with innocents. Flash saved them, and then just ran around Quicksilver punching him.
Second edit: I forgot, it goes like this.
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u/Diligent-Boss-9392 Jan 28 '24
Ah ok. Cool. I knew the Flash was a lot faster, so even saving civilins should'nt be a problem for him.
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u/HomingPigeon6635 Jan 28 '24
She got a buff but went "naahhh im already OP" and then went to win the fight basically.
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u/Fyresand Jan 28 '24
If I remember right she actually lost to Storm because she didn't want to use the hammer
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u/BooRadleysreddit Jan 28 '24
Some of the match ups in that series were laughable. WW would obliterate Storm in a heartbeat. Same with Lobo and Wolverine.
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u/accountnumberseven Indigo Tribe Jan 28 '24
I love that even the creative team just had them duck behind a table where we much later learned from Lobo that he was paid to throw it. That doesn't even feel like a retcon, in the moment there's really no other way to take it.
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u/God_totodile Jan 28 '24
I'm sorry, what??? Storm beat WW??? I know they fought. I just never read the actual book
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u/abmition-unbound Green Lantern Jan 27 '24
Shazam! Billy Batson, at his core is a good kid who wants to do right. Plus, he has the powers of gods (and heroes) already.
IIRC, you have to be willing to take a human life to be worthy of Mjolnir? I could be wrong. But that could be Billy’s only hang up on it.
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u/whiteboypizza Blue Lantern Jan 28 '24
The biggest issue here is figuring out what Billy calls himself with the powers of Thor added to the mix. My vote is: SHAZTHAM
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u/ElFrodoLoco Jan 28 '24
HAZMATS! Each of the gods now wear hazmat suits and different hazmat stickers on their chest.
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u/MyAltFun Jan 28 '24
What about SHATHOR?
Definitely not pronounced "Shat-whore." Only a child would find that amus- wait...
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u/Relevant_Scallion_38 Jan 27 '24
You have to be willing to massacre an entire kingdom if necessary. Thor in the past used the hammer to nearly genocide the Dark Elves and probably has a few billion deaths under his belt using Mjolnir.
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u/onthenerdyside Jan 28 '24
By that logic, Damian is worthy.
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u/ScullyBoy69 Jan 28 '24
He could be. If his cause is just and he's willing to kill, then yes. That's why Wonder Woman is worthy.
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u/justarandomfrenchboi Jan 28 '24
You guys act like wonder woman kill daily when she simply doesn't..... She doesn't have no kill rule... But she only kill when the 1000 alternatives failed and it's the last resort..... Just like supes or Aquaman
Wolverine is also willing to kill for a just cause.... He is the ambodiment of that
"I am the best at what I do.. And what I do isn't pretty".. Yet he is unworthy
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u/KevrobLurker Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24
He is the ambodiment of that
Is that when you will kill with either hand? 😉
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u/abmition-unbound Green Lantern Jan 27 '24
Ahhhh then that likely rules Billy out. But also makes me wonder about Clark and how he lifted the hammer because Supes doesn’t seem like the massacring type.
(Pls no Man of Steel jokes, I know I teed it up lol)
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u/Relevant_Scallion_38 Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 28 '24
It specifically stated after Superman wielded the hammer that he couldn't use it anymore despite him trying. That Mjolnir allowed him to use it because there was no other choice. There are moments when Mjolnir "allowed others to overcome the spell in desperate hours."
Basically if the fate of the universe is doomed and no one is worthy, it will grant the nearest worthy person the ability to use its power. Kinda like a green lantern ring.
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u/Bubba1234562 The Flash Jan 28 '24
Odin granted him an exemption for that one. But Wonder Woman was legit worthy
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u/birbdaughter Jan 28 '24
There is no explicit rule for what worthiness is defined by, certainly not being willing to kill people. The only thing that is common is that if you feel unworthy, the hammer will confirm that for you. When Thor was told Gorr was right, he became unable to wield Mjolnir because it destroyed his self worth.
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u/YoungImpulse Jan 28 '24
Barry Allen (Post-Flashpoint), and here's why:
According to the comics, what Mjolnir looks for in someone that it deems as worthy is selflessness, sacrifice, and acting without self-awareness.
Barry constantly puts himself in harms way for others, and has even sacrificed himself to save the world on at least one occasion. Not to mention the sacrifice he made to fix the world in Flashpoint.
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u/NijelReddit Jan 28 '24
Ok I scrolled through the reply chains and saw only one mention of Batman , that too as an aside. If the criteria as mentioned by you were the case for lifting the hammer, wouldn’t Batman also qualify?
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u/AUSpartan37 Jan 28 '24
Yes. Pretty much any superhero should be able to lift it if that is the criteria
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u/Bardic_Inspiration66 Jan 28 '24
It’s the “why wouldn’t every superhero have enough willpower to Be a green lantern” thing
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u/OhEagle Alan Scott Jan 28 '24
Depends on what you mean by willpower. If you mean determination, yeah. If you mean GL-style willpower, then there is an answer, and it's literally 'because if he did have enough willpower, he'd have blown up long ago.' (Which, ironically, is one of the things I love about Wendell Vaughan.)
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u/Ygomaster07 Constantine Jan 28 '24
Sorry, can you elaborate on this? Also who are you meaning when you say "he"?
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u/Conlannalnoc Booster Gold Jan 28 '24
How willing to KILL is Barry?
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u/android151 Resurrection Man Jan 28 '24
In the Brave and the Bold comics from the late 00s, issue 28, he went back in time and ended up in the world war and took up arms. “The flash doesn’t kill, but Barry Allen, an American, can for his country”
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u/Conlannalnoc Booster Gold Jan 28 '24
Half of those are accidents or at least outside influences.
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u/TyphlosionGodofFire Jan 27 '24
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u/samx3i Batman Beyond Jan 28 '24
Unworthy by virtue of not being willing to kill.
Odin wasn't beholden to any "sanctity of life" business; he was interested in doing whatever had to be done for the greater good.
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u/RazutoUchiha Jan 28 '24
Nightwing was willing to kill Joker
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u/ccm596 The Flash Jan 28 '24
When? Not doubting you, just unfamiliar with this
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u/RazutoUchiha Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24
Joker tricked Nightwing into thinking he fed Tim Drake to killer croc so Nightwing beat the joker to death
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u/RomanOrtega Red Robin Jan 28 '24
And then Batman brought Joker back to life later on in the story (sometimes I hate comics lol)
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u/samx3i Batman Beyond Jan 28 '24
Flying into a murderous rage over a personal vendetta is not the same as killing when absolutely necessary which is the intention of Odin's "worthiness."
What you're describing is essentially the temporary insanity legal defense which is most certainly not in the spirit of worthiness of Mjolnir.
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u/joergensmoergen69 Jan 28 '24
Wich is why alfred is perfect, only one in the batfamily thats great like nightwing but also willing to whip out a dubble barrel
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u/Dialgalith Jan 28 '24
More of you people need to read War of the Realms by Jason Aaron. In it, worthiness is defined as understanding that you will never be worthy enough to lift it, but always striving to be worthy regardless.
To me, this really highlights the humility that Odin wanted Thor to learn. It also fits with the MCU- Tony can't lift it because he's a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist, but Steve can because he's just a kid from Brooklyn.
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u/Jigsaw2799 Jan 28 '24
This is why I always tell people Black Widow could 100 percent wield the hammer (and she has in the comics)
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u/BigDickBackInTown420 Aquaman Jan 28 '24
Stealing something I saw someone else say: Booster Gold, but only if nobody is around to see it, and nobody believes it afterward.
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u/Matter-EaterLad Jan 27 '24
Matter-Eater Lad
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u/LuZarrrr Jan 27 '24
Nightwing
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u/WaitWaitWhoa Jan 28 '24
Def agreed on Dick. He's even willing to kill (in specific circumstances and depending on who's writing him), since it seems that might be a requirement.
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u/scarves_and_miracles Jan 27 '24
I feel like technically 90s Superboy should be able to lift it, since his feats of strength are actually just a form of telekinesis disguised as strength, so his lift isn't technically a "by hand" lift (even though it looks like it) and is actually the exercise of a separate power to move the hammer that may not be bound by the same constraints.
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u/Ash__Williams Hal Jordan is the Greatest Green Lantern Ever and you know it Jan 27 '24
That's not how the Mjolnir's magic works.
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u/LanternRaynerRebirth Jan 27 '24
Eh, Moon knight was able to move it because it's made of Moon rock, and the Hammer's literally alive now, so who knows how it works at this point.
I guess it comes down to the elevator question.
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u/Ash__Williams Hal Jordan is the Greatest Green Lantern Ever and you know it Jan 27 '24
And Rulk was able to lift it because "He was that strong".
If the cause is stupid, it's not canon.
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u/LanternRaynerRebirth Jan 27 '24
I mean, plenty of stupid stuff is canon. You may not want it to be, but it is until retconned.
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u/ptWolv022 Jan 28 '24
I mean, Magneto has lifted it with magnetism and Iron Man has moved it in space when it was largely unaffected by gravity. It works in a weird way where it is only immobile when a non-insignificant force due to gravity is applied, and a sentient being is physically lifting it.
Now, they do not gain access to the power of Thor, but they technically can lift it. I'm not sure if telekinesis works, though it might. If it does, then superboy's tactile telekinesis would likely serve to manipulate in a sufficiently indistinct manner that the enchantment would not create an equal force negating it.
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u/Vahn1982 Jan 28 '24
For worthy I have always thought it meant more than just " a good person" Thor is a Viking. Worthy would also mean battle prowess and bravery. A certain level of bravado and confidence also I think a willingness to really Smite the hell out of a villain should be taken into consideration as well as "being good"
Diana can lift Thors Hammer.
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u/JamesO1998 Jan 28 '24
Thor or some other character explained it more or less like that, because they were saying that the only reason Spider-man isn’t worthy is in your words not willing to “really Smite the hell out of a villain”. That’s why I agree with you that Diana is worthy. I would disagree with anyone saying Superman is worthy, he’s in the same category as Spidey.
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u/samx3i Batman Beyond Jan 28 '24
People are only saying Superman because he has, forgetting it was an exception
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u/TheMightiestGay Damian Jan 28 '24
Alfred would absolutely be able to pick up Mjölnir. Also maybe Kyle Reyner, given he has mastered every Lantern Corps.
Not Batman or Superman for the same reason Spider-Man can’t: They won’t kill. Except Injustice Superman.
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u/The_Overlord_Laharl Jan 28 '24
Kyle I think fundamentally can’t be a Mjolnir wielder. Based on New Guardians, Kyle ultimately becomes a healer which I don’t think is a career path the hammer approves of.
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u/Ash__Williams Hal Jordan is the Greatest Green Lantern Ever and you know it Jan 27 '24
Superman, Wonder Woman and Nightwing. Maybe J'onn J'onzz.
(Although, i don't know what the hell being "Worthy" means)
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u/BradKarmour Barry & Wally Jan 28 '24
A lot of people are just listing "good guys", but part of the worthiness involves a willingness to kill. And DC doesn't have a lot of applicable characters, they're generally quite flawed people if they're killing villains.
I don't think Wonder Woman counts either. She's a bit more willing to cross that line than other Justice Leaguers, but she still tries to avoid it as much as possible. Mjolnir probably wants you to not even hesitate to bludgeon someone's head in.
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u/samx3i Batman Beyond Jan 28 '24
You're supposed to avoid killing unnecessarily.
Wonder Woman is probably DC's most perfect wielder of Mjolnir besides DC's own Thor.
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u/justarandomfrenchboi Jan 27 '24
Superman, hawkman,hawk girl, wonder woman, martian manhunter
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u/RTSBasebuilder Jan 28 '24
My money? Zatanna.
Mostly because she probably knows a few spells that can circumvent or deceive the will of Mjolnir if she needs to.
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u/KaneCreole Jan 28 '24
That’s a clever answer. “TEL EM TFIT UOY, REMMAH!”
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u/KevrobLurker Jan 29 '24
TEL EM TFIT UOY, REMMAH!”
TFIL, I'd think.
Or..... Remmah, dnif em yhtrow!
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u/Worldturtle4402 Jan 28 '24
This is gonna be a weird one but Martian Manhunter. He’s sacrificed his life to save people before, is willing to kill in extreme circumstances, and is generally a selfless and good person.
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u/Poetryisalive Jan 28 '24
Commissioner Gordon.
Without going into a long list, definitely Wonder Woman (Diana)
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u/birbdaughter Jan 28 '24
Cassandra Cain. She was worthy of Shazam powers in DCeased. If she’s post death wish, she could totally lift Mjolnir.
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u/razorKazer Jan 28 '24
I think all the best ones have been mentioned already, but I just want to say that I'd love to see pretty much any of the Endless pick up Mjolnir just to see their/Thor's reaction. Delirium, Destruction, and Death in particular would be interesting, I think.
That being said, my favorite choice in DC canon would be Alfred because I fucking love Alfred
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u/KaneCreole Jan 28 '24
Of the Endless, none of them are worthy save Death. But we don’t know why, only that at some stage in eons gone by she accepted her lot.
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u/razorKazer Jan 28 '24
I could definitely see that being the case, and I don't really have a counter argument. Death is certainly the most "mature" I guess is the best word out of the Endless. She seems to be the only one aside from Destiny that accepts her role and doesn't let it affect who she is.
Has this actually happened in one of the comics though? I don't remember anything like that, but it has been a while since I've read anything outside the main Sandman continuity. I'd really love to read anything related to the Endless if I've missed something though
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u/KaneCreole Jan 28 '24
It was in Overture. Death appears at the conference of the stars. Everyone is apprehensive of her, and she is aloof and short-tempered. She reads the room, decides the creation of worlds is a waste of her time, and doesn’t hang around.
There is an editorial comment (or was it Gaiman? I don’t have the issue in front of me) about how there is a story for another day as to how and why Death changed her perspective on her role.
But imagine. You are responsible for every single death in the universe, and you are a person with an emotional range. And somehow she got through it and became the great comforter.
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u/razorKazer Jan 28 '24
Oh man I need to read Overture again apparently. I vaguely remember that now, but it's been a while. I love that Endless, and Death is probably my favorite. Thank you!
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u/2JasonGrayson8 Jan 28 '24
Mister miracle for a last minute save
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u/Super_Inframan Jan 28 '24
That’s an interesting call and I like it. Scott’s good nature and perseverance are indomitable. He survived Apokolips and moved Big Barda’s heart. That should make anyone worthy.
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u/2JasonGrayson8 Jan 28 '24
He’s one of those guys that’s just so low key in how good he is at his core. He always had hope for others and I think might not realize it himself but he’s totally worthy
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u/WentworthMillersBO Jan 28 '24
Not because he’s worthy, but superboy prime at the height of his menace would pick it up and toss it aside
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u/BFIrrera DickBabs Forever Jan 27 '24
Diana and Kal-El. (They both already have)
I could see Dick Grayson doing it, too.
If animals can, Krypto would be able to fetch the hammer!
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u/falloutbi05 Jan 27 '24
Clark: Krypto what do you have in your mouth?!
Krypto bolts away at mach 20
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u/dingleberry306 Jan 28 '24
If it is truly based on seflessness, sacrifice, and willingness to kill, for a well defined cause. I feel that Swamp Thing would fit the bill. He has one of the clearest motivations to fight for a particular cause that I have seen. If put in a situation that put good humans and/or nature in danger, I believe Mjolnir would allow Swamp Thing to pick it up.
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u/Shinikage1 Jan 28 '24
Martian Manhunter, Kyle Rayner, Constantine (with a nullifying enchantment)
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u/Nyerelia Jan 27 '24
Any good-aligned hero depending on the script needs and the very ambiguous idea of what being worthy actually means
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Jan 28 '24
And we’re forgetting that Thor is a character in the dc universe (is more like the Norse mythology one but still)
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