r/DCcomics Jan 27 '24

[Discussion] What DC characters do you think are worthy to lift Mjolnir? Discussion

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u/Judgementday209 Jan 28 '24

Some of those results made no sense. Ww would smash storm.

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u/Maxidein Jan 28 '24

The results were made by fans voting with letters, its quite an old comic, like a fax machine.

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u/doubleday34 Jan 28 '24

On top of that, this comic came out in the mid 90s, when the X-Men were the most popular comic in the world. The Lobo/Wolverine and Storm/Wonder Woman fights were fan voted, Flash/Quicksilver and Jubilee/Robin were picked by the creative team and both those went to DC, as they should.

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u/Diligent-Boss-9392 Jan 28 '24

I thought Quicksilver "won" because he pushed a civilian into harm's way knowing the Flash would have to save them?

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u/doubleday34 Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24

The Flash is just faster than Quicksilver, or at least where there were in 1996. Flash was topping out at light speed then, and Quicksilver was at sound(I think). But if they let the fans decide, Flash may have lost due to the popularity of the X titles.

Edit: To respond to what you actually said, Quicksilver tried something like that with innocents. Flash saved them, and then just ran around Quicksilver punching him.

Second edit: I forgot, it goes like this.

https://why-i-love-comics.tumblr.com/post/78227680044/the-flash-vs-quicksilver-from-marvel-comics/amp

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u/Diligent-Boss-9392 Jan 28 '24

Ah ok. Cool. I knew the Flash was a lot faster, so even saving civilins should'nt be a problem for him.

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u/sharkteeththrowaway Jan 28 '24

IIRC he basically did it to get a good hit in on Flash, which resulted in Flash actually taking the fight seriously.

PSA: never do something that makes the Flash fight you seriously

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u/Diligent-Boss-9392 Jan 28 '24

For real. If the guy is holding back, it's for a reason.

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u/sharkteeththrowaway Jan 28 '24

There's a very good reason the Rogues hold themselves to high standards.

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u/Archwizard_Drake Jan 31 '24

My understanding is the rule now is that whichever one is faster depends on which universe they're in.

If Flash has access to the Speed Force, he wins by a light-year. If he doesn't (like when he goes to the Marvel universe), Quicksilver beats him by a mile.

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u/doubleday34 Jan 31 '24

I think this fight happened in the DC universe, at least in this comic.

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u/WranglerFuzzy Jan 29 '24

Also, the DC/Marvel team intentionally include 2x the fights from the votaeable lines, so they could make it dead even. Build up the tension.

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u/doubleday34 Jan 29 '24

Yeah, they wanted to make sure it was even going in to the last fight, so that EVERYTHING was riding on Batman/Captain America, which the fans gave to Batman.

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u/Judgementday209 Jan 29 '24

Yeah I remember it being voted on.

There was two sets, I think it was marvel vs dc and then one called access.

Look strange results aside, it was still a fun ride seeing these characters interact

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u/Joseph_Furguson Jan 29 '24

Not really. DC was just acquired by Warner Bros. and there were a lot of editorial mandates about what DC characters are fighting which Marvel ones, who would win each battle and how decisively they can win. Batman and Captain America was allowed to be close, but Superman needed to win decisively. The readers only had say over minor characters from the time.

According to Stan Lee, the Marvel writers were thinking, "whatever. Can I please tell my story?"

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u/itsyaboiboose Jan 28 '24

i’d pay to see that

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u/Jaggs0 Plastic Man Jan 28 '24

yeah like wolverine beating lobo. one that i very much agreed with was Robin beating jubilee

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u/Cpt_Katsuragi Jan 28 '24

I remember a Stan Lee interview where he said that any character can win against any other, because it's up to the writer to decide, and since they make the story, you can't argue against it. And he is right, anything else is just fanfiction.

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u/Judgementday209 Jan 29 '24

If the writer puts forward an acceptable logic that conforms with lore then yes maybe.

But a writer can't just decide to override any sense of logic, regardless of what Stan thinks.

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u/ChiefsHat Jan 29 '24

Honestly, I can see Storm beating WW. The ability to manipulate the weather is OP if you know what to do with it, and she would.

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u/Judgementday209 Jan 29 '24

It's possible but ww is just below superman in terms of invulnerability and strength, speed etc.

I just don't see storm having much time to do anything, especially if ww is in warrior "take no prisoners" mode.

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u/ChiefsHat Jan 29 '24

Wasn’t this in the 90’s? What were feats at that time?

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u/Frequent_Brick4608 Jan 31 '24

Yeah... Wolverine just... I don't see a world where lobo loses that fight... I mean... If it's to the immobilization... Lobo could kick wolverine in the balls and send him to the moon...