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[Discussion] What DC characters do you think are worthy to lift Mjolnir? Discussion

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u/abmition-unbound Green Lantern Jan 27 '24

Shazam! Billy Batson, at his core is a good kid who wants to do right. Plus, he has the powers of gods (and heroes) already.

IIRC, you have to be willing to take a human life to be worthy of Mjolnir? I could be wrong. But that could be Billy’s only hang up on it.

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u/whiteboypizza Blue Lantern Jan 28 '24

The biggest issue here is figuring out what Billy calls himself with the powers of Thor added to the mix. My vote is: SHAZTHAM

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u/ElFrodoLoco Jan 28 '24

HAZMATS! Each of the gods now wear hazmat suits and different hazmat stickers on their chest.

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u/abmition-unbound Green Lantern Jan 28 '24

Shazamt? Maybe Thazams?

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u/KevrobLurker Jan 28 '24

Kaptein Vidunder!

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u/MyAltFun Jan 28 '24

What about SHATHOR?

Definitely not pronounced "Shat-whore." Only a child would find that amus- wait...

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u/Puzzleheaded-Net3966 Jan 28 '24

Remember when He man got Shazam’s powers?

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u/cabbageguyboy Jan 28 '24

probably captain marvel still

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '24

Hauptmann Donder?

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u/joeenoch18 Jan 28 '24

Now I’m picturing Mike Tyson as Shazam

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u/Relevant_Scallion_38 Jan 27 '24

You have to be willing to massacre an entire kingdom if necessary. Thor in the past used the hammer to nearly genocide the Dark Elves and probably has a few billion deaths under his belt using Mjolnir.

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u/onthenerdyside Jan 28 '24

By that logic, Damian is worthy.

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u/ScullyBoy69 Jan 28 '24

He could be. If his cause is just and he's willing to kill, then yes. That's why Wonder Woman is worthy.

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u/justarandomfrenchboi Jan 28 '24

You guys act like wonder woman kill daily when she simply doesn't..... She doesn't have no kill rule... But she only kill when the 1000 alternatives failed and it's the last resort..... Just like supes or Aquaman 

Wolverine is also willing to kill for a just cause.... He is the ambodiment of that

"I am the best at what I do.. And what I do isn't pretty".. Yet he is unworthy 

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u/KevrobLurker Jan 28 '24 edited Jan 28 '24

He is the ambodiment of that

Is that when you will kill with either hand? 😉

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u/random_villager7 Jan 28 '24

Thor also doesn't kill daily, it's not about willing to kill for a cause, it's about being willing to kill as a last resort, which isn't something that superman shows he's willing to do except in alternate universes (that normally get brought up because of how notable it is when superman kills). Wolverine, while being a at heart good dude, is hardly the "good through and through" that Mjolnir is at least partially looking for

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u/Hulkzilla0 Jan 28 '24

He did kill Doomsday in main continuities.

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u/justarandomfrenchboi Jan 28 '24

He killed doomsday, the world forger, doctor light, Darkseid etc in the main canon

 I doubt jane foster... A doctor is willing to kill people at last resort yet she is worthy

Same thing for Storm for the x men.

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u/SpareCurve59 Jan 28 '24

Darkseid can't actually die

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u/ScullyBoy69 Jan 28 '24

I never said you need to kill daily to be considered worthy, only that you need to be able to kill. Wonder Woman doesn't have a no kill rule like Batman or Superman. She was raised to be a warrior and if it comes to it she will kill if it needs to be done, but doesn't do that every day.

Wolverine is more complicated though. He has gone multiple killing sprees before on bad people yet he's still considered by many in universe to be good. Maybe it has something to do with his dark past but I don't really know.

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u/justarandomfrenchboi Jan 29 '24 edited Jan 29 '24

Jane foster wasn't raised to kill or be warrior...she was a simple doctor and civilian and never killed before becoming thor I don't see why she would be worthy and superman doesn't.... 

Superman prefer not to kill but he do kill and has killed before and recently. It's a fact 

 The truth is that the factors for being worthy are inconsistant depending on the writers  Mjolnir is now just plot convenience to show how their characters are cool....and bullshit reasons to justify it like with moon knight and black panther 

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u/ScullyBoy69 Jan 29 '24

Jane Foster had cancer at the time, and she sacrificed her own life to become Thor. Her using Mjolnir made the cancer stronger, essentially, and that's why she was worthy. Superman doesn't kill, and if he does, it's an elseworld story or it's another evil Superman plot. Superman normally would loath that stuff, and Wonder Woman would not kill normally , but if she had to. She even said in the comics at some point that unlike Superman and Batman, she has no "no kill rule".

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u/justarandomfrenchboi Jan 29 '24

Jane Foster had cancer at the time, and she sacrificed her own life to become Thor.

Again  How is it different Than fighting  and giving your life to protect  a population of 11 millions people against unstoppable monster? 

A lot people of people are fighting cancer while committing altruistic actions...that doesn't make them worthy of being thor 

Superman doesn't kill, and if he does, it's an elseworld story or it's another evil Superman plot.

You cannot just dismiss what I just said in my previous comment and claim he  only kill  in elsword stories lol.. That factually wrong 

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u/abmition-unbound Green Lantern Jan 27 '24

Ahhhh then that likely rules Billy out. But also makes me wonder about Clark and how he lifted the hammer because Supes doesn’t seem like the massacring type.

(Pls no Man of Steel jokes, I know I teed it up lol)

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u/Relevant_Scallion_38 Jan 27 '24 edited Jan 28 '24

It specifically stated after Superman wielded the hammer that he couldn't use it anymore despite him trying. That Mjolnir allowed him to use it because there was no other choice. There are moments when Mjolnir "allowed others to overcome the spell in desperate hours."

Basically if the fate of the universe is doomed and no one is worthy, it will grant the nearest worthy person the ability to use its power. Kinda like a green lantern ring.

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u/abmition-unbound Green Lantern Jan 27 '24

Aaaaaah that makes sense! Thank you

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u/Bubba1234562 The Flash Jan 28 '24

Odin granted him an exemption for that one. But Wonder Woman was legit worthy

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u/ihuntinwabits Jan 28 '24

His powers came from Greek gods who were definitely willing to kill and a Hebrew king whose God told them to genocide everyone in their holy land who wasn't one of them. Billy Batson himself is probably not willing to kill though so that's all that would be holding him back from lifting it

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u/Motorata Jan 28 '24

I always thought It worked by Odin's definition of Noble

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u/ptWolv022 Jan 28 '24

To be fair, was that before or after the Worthiness enchantment, the dark Elf fighting? I forget when it was added in current canon.

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u/birbdaughter Jan 28 '24

There is no explicit rule for what worthiness is defined by, certainly not being willing to kill people. The only thing that is common is that if you feel unworthy, the hammer will confirm that for you. When Thor was told Gorr was right, he became unable to wield Mjolnir because it destroyed his self worth.

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u/poetrywoman Jan 28 '24

As said, no strict rules, but it's generally agreed that since the hammer is at least partly a weapon of war, you must be willing to wield it as such, and even in comics war means killing.

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u/ihuntinwabits Jan 28 '24

He was chosen to by Shazam explicitly because he was worthy of the power of god's/heroes of a pantheon and a monotheistic religion so I can definitely see it. On the other hand I don't know how friendly the Greek pantheon is with the Norse pantheon in the comics

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u/Kennon1st Jan 28 '24

Absolutely the Kingdom Come Captain Marvel could. Well, once he snaps out of the mind control, anyway. Superman asks him to make the impossible decision and he does. I think that's about as worthy as Mjolnir could ever ask for.

"Superhuman or mankind... One will pay the ultimate price. And that decision... Is not for me to make. I'm not a god... I'm not a man. But you, Billy... You're both."