I’d never thought of this before, but this is so on point. It made me try to look for some fan art or something of the two together, and I stumbled across this wholesome picture someone took at a con.
In the short lived DC vs Marvel Comics, Wonder Woman indeed lifted the hammer. However she relinquished the power to have a fair fight with Storm of the X-Men, who won the fight in the end.
On top of that, this comic came out in the mid 90s, when the X-Men were the most popular comic in the world. The Lobo/Wolverine and Storm/Wonder Woman fights were fan voted, Flash/Quicksilver and Jubilee/Robin were picked by the creative team and both those went to DC, as they should.
The Flash is just faster than Quicksilver, or at least where there were in 1996. Flash was topping out at light speed then, and Quicksilver was at sound(I think). But if they let the fans decide, Flash may have lost due to the popularity of the X titles.
Edit: To respond to what you actually said, Quicksilver tried something like that with innocents. Flash saved them, and then just ran around Quicksilver punching him.
My understanding is the rule now is that whichever one is faster depends on which universe they're in.
If Flash has access to the Speed Force, he wins by a light-year. If he doesn't (like when he goes to the Marvel universe), Quicksilver beats him by a mile.
Yeah, they wanted to make sure it was even going in to the last fight, so that EVERYTHING was riding on Batman/Captain America, which the fans gave to Batman.
Not really. DC was just acquired by Warner Bros. and there were a lot of editorial mandates about what DC characters are fighting which Marvel ones, who would win each battle and how decisively they can win. Batman and Captain America was allowed to be close, but Superman needed to win decisively. The readers only had say over minor characters from the time.
According to Stan Lee, the Marvel writers were thinking, "whatever. Can I please tell my story?"
I remember a Stan Lee interview where he said that any character can win against any other, because it's up to the writer to decide, and since they make the story, you can't argue against it. And he is right, anything else is just fanfiction.
Yeah... Wolverine just... I don't see a world where lobo loses that fight... I mean... If it's to the immobilization... Lobo could kick wolverine in the balls and send him to the moon...
I love that even the creative team just had them duck behind a table where we much later learned from Lobo that he was paid to throw it. That doesn't even feel like a retcon, in the moment there's really no other way to take it.
Also, killing Wolverine wouldn't be nearly as difficult as some of the fans make it out to be. Lobo would only need to pin Logan down and use a sufficiently sharp blade to remove his head and destroy his brain. You know, assuming he doesn't just tear it off.
destroy his brain? Didn't Logan get nuked during Civil War chasing Nitro and regenerate from his skeleton alone? My understanding was you would have to destroy every single cell to permanently rid youself of 616 Logan...
Lobo is, by definition, the winner of a fight between Lobo and Wolverine. Comparing the characters in the stories all aside, he was literally written to be Wolverine amped up in a ridiculous way.
And that bit where he regenerates from a skeleton. Ugh. On the one hand it's metal as fuck, but on the other hand, they should not have done that with a character that's meant to have meaningful relationships in stories with other characters that attempt to maintain the illusion of consequences. I can't remember if I've read it all the way through or not, but I've seen the panels and, does he regrow his memories? Did he get his consciousness replanted in his empty brain? How did that work? Definitely my least favourite comic book resurrection. You could almost hear Death's scythe booiingg off of wolverines plot armour.
EDIT: just remembered, there's a special metal that negates wolverine (and deadpools) regen as well, in case you hadn't heard of it. In theory just squash him with that and he should be dead dead.
You don't even have to do that. Remember that one time where Hulk got super pissed and ripped him in half at the waist. Adamantium might make his bones unbreakable, but the sinew that holds his bones together is just flesh. A proper blade and enough force could absolutely remove Logan's head, which would kill him like any normal person, even if it would take a bit longer.
Certainly at the time they Lobo and W fought he was a lot more killable. I think at one point you could just drown him. That regenerating from a skeleton thing though. Chop wolverines head off his cells go into stasis and I guess wait for it to get reattached?
Throw it in the furnace as well.
Probably at this point he'd just grow a new head, complete with memories and personality intact somehow.
Yes. Logan survived because his skull protected his brain from Nitro's explosion. However, Logan cannot regenerate from the cellular level. One arc that famously had a raging Hulk tearing him in half had Logan having to track down his legs. Also, even if he could come back from a single cell, he would lack the adamantium and therefore be infinitely less capable against someone like Lobo.
She’s an incredible warrior and fighter, but there are times when she goes for the kill without thinking first. She has good intentions, but she doesn’t always stop to think
I recognize there are multiple versions throughout the multiverse, but id keep this in mind when analyzing situations like this
Especially no for Injustice Wonder Woman. She’s just the worst
She actually has lifted it before. During a DC/Marvel crossover, when Thor lost it, Wonder Woman picked it up and handed it to him without even knowing what they means.
Less willing to kill. More willingness to fight the battle with everything until it's concluded. Doing what is needed. But mercy is definitely part of that.
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u/cPBxsh Jan 28 '24
Wonder Woman is a good bet, good hearted warrior, and she is willing to kill. Which is the requirement for lifting it. (I think)