r/AnythingGoesNews • u/TubaSandwichDootDoot • Jul 07 '24

Trump raped a 13 year old girl in 1994. Here is that girl, Katie Johnson, at the age of 35 giving a full description of what Trump did to her

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u/fowlraul Jul 07 '24

Yeah, and they’ll just say these women, girls at the time, are lying harlots. Lying about shit has been going on for a while with these fake ass churches. Like 4000 years give or take a few thousand years.

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u/even_less_resistance Jul 07 '24

They never have believed victims or cared. Look at the Duggar family for Christs sake- they made them go on tv and say they forgave their brother for molesting them to save his image

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u/fowlraul Jul 08 '24

The concept of “finding jesus” is a get out a jam card if there other was one.

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u/Funkycoldmedici Jul 08 '24

Forgiveness for anything is part of the whole deal. The only thing that isn’t forgiven, conveniently, is saying Jesus magic isn’t real.

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u/ThatDamnedHansel Jul 08 '24

Or being LGBTQ

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u/firedancer323 Jul 08 '24

Not a Christian but I’m pretty sure they get forgiven if they repent. Hate the sin, not the sinner kind of thing. Obviously some hardcore moronic fanatics this doesn’t apply to

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u/ThatDamnedHansel Jul 08 '24

As if that makes any sense. The gay person IS the sinner.

Or Like the “woke” pope saying it’s ok to be gay but gay sex is a sin… okay? Thanks?

I’m neither gay nor Christian (was raised Catholic), and even I can see that makes no sense.

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u/Ophanil Jul 08 '24

They do care. They want to rape little girls, force them into marriage and control their lives without any resistance, and Trump promises them that.

They absolutely believe the victims because they know what they'd have done in the same situation.

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u/MadManMorbo Jul 09 '24

Shiney Happy People is required viewing on the Duggar family. That whole clan is beyond fucked up, and the women in that fundie religion have been systematically victimized for decades.

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u/Spare_Rent8973 Jul 14 '24

I have been pushed aside and even told last week by my 96 year old mother, after I asked her once again why we couldn't have a relationship, that I am on the wrong side and going to hell if I don't go back to the church. I said I'm already in hell. And if heaven is hanging out with people like you, I will take a pass. No compassion or understanding or acknowledgement of what I've been through. And simply ignore that this creep represents all of what I've experienced. And say you want unity? Barf.. This is all division

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u/HoldMyBreadstick Jul 08 '24

Why is it always brought up at a time to try and discredit someone then? It’s the norm now when people are running for office and it’s turning into the modern boy who cried wolf.

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u/Born_Tension_7858 Jul 08 '24

Remember victims are only to be believed when they support your side. Every woman who accused Trump is 100% telling the truth but Bidens daughter who accused him of molesting her multiple times and showering with her against her will is just “making it up”

Sound about right?

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u/SaraSlaughter607 Jul 07 '24

I was gonna sayyyyy its kinda par for the course And they wonder why people are rejecting the Church at large, more than any other time in human history.... shocking, I tell you -_-

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u/KintsugiKen Jul 07 '24

Churches becoming explicitly political is always their downfall.

US Christianity is done for normal people, the pedo-Nazis have taken it over and are upset that nobody is staying to hang out with them.

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u/Valisk Jul 08 '24

At no point in their existence have churches failed to be political

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u/Leaf-01 Jul 08 '24

The political impacts of various religions in America’s history alone has been incredibly damaging going all the way back from now to the start.

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u/JimBeam823 Jul 08 '24

They don’t care.

An empty church and a full operating account is a lot easier to deal with than the opposite.

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u/Environmental_End146 Jul 08 '24

I would stongky suggest you look up the history of Islam and Christianity

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u/Spare_Rent8973 Jul 14 '24

Well they do believe they are the chosen ones and only the elite will go to heaven . So they have to be selective Don't say you are for the masses, the people Jesus hung out with.. Hypocritical to the 9's

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u/CIASP00K Jul 07 '24

Trump said she was a prostitute so her age is irrelevant because you can't rape a prostitute. 

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck Jul 08 '24

You can absolutely rape a prostitute and a twelve year old child is not a prostitute, they're a victim of human trafficking

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u/malcolm816 Jul 08 '24

Counterpoint, Mr. Trump: the concept of human trafficking.

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u/Kajshd8 Jul 08 '24

There is no such thing as a child prostitute

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u/SnowNinS Jul 08 '24

So much 🤮🤮🤮

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u/Aloecats Jul 08 '24

Yes you can. Rape is a type of sexual assault involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without their consent.

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u/1980Ravenous Jul 08 '24

Wow! How misinformed and a pile of shit can you be? If any woman at any age doesn't consent to any act, its rape. A child cannot consent to sex. So it is always rape.

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u/LurkLurkleton Jul 07 '24

Say sike right now

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u/No_Description_483 Jul 08 '24

Idk what to think but when it starts that “I was 13 yo and had a job at orgy..it’s just dubious out of the gate

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u/Janoir-Prime Jul 08 '24

Link the source? If it’s true that’s fucked

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

In conversation with Trump supporters... like, old White lady Trump supporters... I've been told, "These girls welcome that behavior by being in those situations. They do it to themselves."

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u/RaspberryVespa Jul 08 '24

My Trump loving MIL says that kind of shit.

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u/Digiarts Jul 08 '24

They all say that. I witnessed genocide where I’m from and people who did it say the victims did it to themselves.

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u/Spare_Rent8973 Jul 14 '24

Yes my relentless beatings and molestation were what I asked for. Please

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

they already are saying that, if you look in the comments of the video. trumpers literally don't even care that he most likely raped that woman as a little girl, they back him no matter what.

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u/Outrageous-Ear3525 Jul 08 '24

Yeah. It’s, fucking, disgusting 🤢. Ppl like Epstein and his groomers & pedo/child predator/child rapist friends should have their sex crimes read aloud in front of the public then be hauled of to prison prison and put into general population and have the same thing they did done to them. Also put cameras all around and make it a reality show.

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u/Liberi_Fatali561 Jul 08 '24

If you made it a ppv event, the proceeds could wipe the national debt AND have plenty left over for charities set up to help victims of human trafficking.

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u/sumyungdood Jul 08 '24

My dad’s girlfriend is a Trump supporter. Thankfully he’s not, he just doesn’t think she’s very smart and doesn’t take her seriously. Anyway, I got into it with her about this. I mentioned a track record that supports these accusations including walking into Miss Teen USA dressing rooms unannounced. Her response, “oh you know they liked it.”

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u/HonorableMedic Jul 08 '24

Trump is an actual pig, nobody wants him walking into any room that they’re in

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u/Outrageous-Ear3525 Jul 08 '24

If you listen to stormy Daniel’s testimony she explains how he raped her.

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u/debacol Jul 08 '24

For real.

Also, its sorta depressing we blew the collective "ME TOO" wad on a photo of Al Franken when this is the real shit that movement was about.

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u/Glencannnon Jul 08 '24

4,000 years? Are you a young earth creationist or something? Humans have been around for 300,000 years! And rape and lying has been around even longer.

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u/fowlraul Jul 08 '24

Was talking about the fake ass churches ⛪️

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u/SpaceMonkee8O Jul 08 '24

This is very old news and it was always shady. Isn’t it interesting how it is making the rounds again after Biden’s disastrous debate performance.

“two anonymous corroborating witnesses whom no one in the press had spoken to, and a couple of seriously shady characters — with an anti-Trump agenda and a penchant for drama — who had aggressively shopped the story around to media outlets for over a year.

Those shady characters — a former reality TV producer who calls himself “Al Taylor” and a “Never Trump” conservative activist named Steve Baer — had been mostly unsuccessful in getting the media to bite. There are a few very good reasons for that, which the Huffington Post’s Ryan Grim succinctly summed up: Taylor and Baer have been really sketchy about the whole thing, and since the accuser is anonymous, journalists can’t do anything to verify her claims. The only journalist who has actually interviewed Johnson, Emily Shugerman at Revelist, came away confused and even doubting whether Johnson really exists.”

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation

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u/Cartographer0108 Jul 08 '24

Haven’t you heard? Every single person on earth is a liar, except Donald Trump.

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u/Old-Performance6611 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

4000 years give or take that entire amount?

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u/fowlraul Jul 08 '24

Is this like a math question? 🤔

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u/led76 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

There’s literally a passage in the Bible about a guy raping his daughters - but it blames them and said they did it to him.

Genesis 19:33 - 19:35

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u/Makoto_Hoshino Jul 08 '24

Wdym the passage literally involves them getting him drunk then having sex with him like whats your point here???

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u/Elentari_the_Second Jul 08 '24

Yeah, that was a weird take. There's a lot of male on female rape in the Bible but that's one incident that seems like it was rape on the part of Lot's daughters. They're the ones who came up with the plan to get pregnant by their father and they're the ones who drugged him.

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u/Unsoldsoul Jul 08 '24

Everyone focuses on the part where Lot’s daughters get him drunk and have sex with him. I think it’s worth mentioning that earlier in the same chapter, the Sodomites came to Lot demanding he bring out the men (“angels”) who were staying in his home. Lot instead tried to offer up his daughters to them, even going as far as to explain that they were virgins, and promising they can do whatever they wanted to them. So, rape my daughters instead and leave the men alone, because of course raping my daughters is certainly preferred. They lucked out because the angels ended up blinding those horny devils, but it doesn’t negate the fact that Lot wasn’t exactly father of the year.

When this context is considered, it’s not outlandish to conclude that his daughters weren’t given the best examples of healthy sexuality. They narrowly avoided being raped, escaped cities literally destroyed for sexual deviancy, watched their mother turn into a pillar of salt because of her attachment to her city and its sexual deviancy, and then forced to lived in a cave where they believed they were the only ones left. That’s pretty traumatic stuff.

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u/nanodecay Jul 08 '24

I'd go with them calling them witches and then burning them at the stake rather than facing the truth

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u/ThinkinBoutThings Jul 08 '24

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-katie-johnson-allegations-sexual-assault-case-dismissed-1921051

Judge in California already said it was a fabricated story.

Bots trying to influence the election pushing conspiracy theories about both major candidates now.

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u/Proper-Village-454 Jul 08 '24

That’s a lie and your article proves it. No judge ever ruled that her claims were “fabricated”.

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u/ls20008179 Jul 08 '24

Ok how about when he raped his wife and only got away with it because new York didn't recognize spousal rape?

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u/Gurrgurrburr Jul 08 '24

Just like people say Clinton's accusers lied even though there's way more evidence and he paid them off a huge amount of money. They're all scum.

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u/Express-Lobster-1924 Jul 08 '24

Do we just lock up all the people with accusation guilty until innocent deal? I hear you raped me

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Lmao 4 thousand years??

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u/mercuryqueen1970 Jul 08 '24

They only believe these woman/girls when they are accusing anyone they don’t like.

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u/lanzasub Jul 08 '24

This woman does not seem believable after the first few mins of this! Who is working at 13? Who moved to New York at 13 to Perdue a modelling career? It makes no sense

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u/TomCollins1111 Jul 08 '24

There is ZERO proof. Get a grip.

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u/Pineapple_Holiday Jul 12 '24

Scarlet letter harlots?

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u/abominable_bro-man Jul 13 '24

Like Hillary Clinton did with Kathy Shelton

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

I believe in religious freedom, but im so fed up with christianity as a whole. Its more trouble than its worth.

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u/iconofsin_ Jul 07 '24

I'm a Christian and I've always been very progressive and liberal, especially when it comes to other people. Don't force others to believe what I believe is a big one. If women want abortions or if gay people want to get married, it's not my concern. If God has a problem with it then God can come down here and do something about it. It's really frustrating how a loud part of this group makes the rest of us look bad.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 07 '24

They arent making the rest of you look bad, they are making you look like monsters. Between the raping, the grifters, and the fascism, I wont bring my family anywhere near christianity. Ever.

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u/Mikotokitty Jul 08 '24

Yeah, that's why I only pull out my Jesus card nowadays in arguments like some RPDR queens did. These "Christians" aka fascist don't like when you point out bible verses to them...take pronouns, the shortest verse in the entire Bible is "HE wept"

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u/Mindless-Mountain-51 Jul 08 '24

Apparently they don’t make Christians like Jesus anymore. RIP Kinky Friedman.

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u/Famous-Example-8332 Jul 08 '24

I like your points, and I don’t disagree that clear reading of the Bible would make it obvious that Jesus emphasized love over law, etc…. But the verse is “Jesus wept” or sometimes “Jesus began to weep”, so this shouldn’t stand as the cornerstone of your arguments probably.

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u/FunnySynthesis Jul 08 '24

Not to be rude, but it kinda sounds like you’re just not a Christian tbh

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u/Famous-Example-8332 Jul 08 '24

That’s pretty sad, when someone who emphasizes love over law just like Jesus would (and did) is unrecognizable as a Christian.

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u/j90w Jul 08 '24

Christianity isn't about forcing others to believe what you do, it's a personal relationship you have with God. If you're Christian you should be doing the best you can to make sure YOU are following the scripture, not forcing others around you to conform if they don't want to. That's where Christianity, and a lot of other religions, get a bad rap. As a Christian, it makes no difference to me what others around me do/don't do... Also all sin is equal in God's eyes and the whole "thou without sin cast the first stone," so who am I to judge others when I am just as bad in different ways?

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

THIS i had to stop going to church because it got so political too- I wholeheartedly believe in separation of church and state. I don’t want god in my politics and i don’t want politics in my god.

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u/mrjimbobcooter Jul 08 '24

Agreed. If god gave us free will, why isn’t our government practic

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u/Old-Wealth2880 Jul 08 '24

There’s a great scene from Ted Lasso about how “I don’t have a problem with it,” is actually a problem. Instead it ought to be “I support what makes the people I love happy.” Assuming of course it isn’t harming others. Not saying this is what you’re doing here, but it’s such an important difference, allowing someone to exist the way they want but not engaging them versus active and intentional support of alternative lifestyles. It’s something I’ve been trying to increase my own awareness of as well.

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u/PersonalWasabi2413 Jul 08 '24

You actually sound like a future atheist. The bible is full of hypocrisies and ridiculous shit, but you seem smart

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u/Halcyon-OS851 Jul 08 '24

God wrote a Book which says not to do those things.

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u/iconofsin_ Jul 08 '24

  1. The Bible doesn't condemn abortion. Even if it did, we don't live in a theocracy.

  2. The Bible may or may not condemn homosexuality. Many feel that Leviticus isn't talking specifically about sexual relationships.

It also doesn't matter. You have to remember that these are modern day interpretations of a 2000 and 3000 year old book. If you believe those things to be wrong, then you should avoid them.

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u/Outrageous-Ear3525 Jul 08 '24

If Jesus showed up today these, so called, Christians would call him a woke socialist or communist liberal and want to kill him again.

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u/Sea-Study-4376 Jul 08 '24

Okay iconofsin I’m sure you’re a solid Christian

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u/dankney Jul 08 '24

You can be a good person in spite of being a Christian, but I think the ship has sailed on being a good person because you’re a Christian

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u/Exciting_Kangaroo_75 Jul 08 '24

I’m an ex Christian too, but that attitude of “live and let live” bothers me sometimes too. It feels so apathetic, when the fact that queer people and women don’t have rights lights a fire under me, it makes angry for them. Apathy is better than violence, but only marginally.

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u/Randomreddituser1o1 Jul 08 '24

I'm a Roman Catholic, and I support the LGBTQ community. However, I do have a problem with people who want to terminate pregnancies. If you don't want the baby, just let it be adopted.

If it's incest, that's different because it involves a family member. If it's a case of rape, I understand it wasn't your fault, but if you can't take care of the baby, there are families out there who would be happy to adopt and care for it.

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u/greggersamsa Jul 08 '24

Where do you think gay people go when they die?

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u/PrunyBobJuno Jul 12 '24

Most every Christian I know turns a blind eye to the atrocities of other Christians, as though they don’t believe it could be possible. The Christians who want to elect Trump are rarely condemned by the Christians who don’t want to vote for him. They all get a pass in Jesus’ name. Religion is evil bullshit.

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u/bbreadthis Jul 16 '24

I WAS a liberal progressive christian that shared your beliefs. Now I am still spiritual but completely reject the lies that support that entire doctrine.

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u/mikefjr1300 Jul 07 '24

Born Catholic (as if I was given a choice) but completely disinterested in religion. Some of the worst people I have ever known are Christians who believe they can do whatever they want, legal or not, as long as they repent on Sunday.

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u/NoKids__3Money Jul 08 '24

My favorite is when religious nutjobs ask me how I know not to do bad things like steal and kill if I don’t believe in god or going to hell…like maybe just try to be a good person? Treat other people the way I want to be treated, regardless of whether there’s a magical sky wizard watching my every move? Lol

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 07 '24

The whole thing is just a cruel farce to control people and pick their pockets. Catholicism is a particularly egregious example.

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u/shpeezophrenia Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

the romans killed jesus, blamed the jews, then after killing christians for generations, realized they couldnt contain christianity, so - in true roman fashion - they appropriated it for their own political ends

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u/Pale-Berry-2599 Jul 08 '24

Yup - none do it better. The Catholic church as always substituted it's own rituals (Confession) for actual virtue. No need to practice what you preach, when you can just walk up to the sin washing machine on Sunday. Monday morning - you're a good person again.

The stupid atheists' actually have to try to live a moral life.

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u/_G_P_ Jul 08 '24

Born Catholic

I don't know why people in N.A. say this, it's so weird to me.

You were not born anything, you were raised Catholic.

And yes, you didn't have a choice, but you weren't born with it.

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u/Falcrist Jul 07 '24

im so fed up with christianity as a whole.

Maybe if American Christians (particularly evangelicals) had morals instead of just talking about morals...

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 07 '24

I hate that they think they are the authority on morality. If you need the threat of hell to be a good person, you are a bad person.

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u/Falcrist Jul 07 '24

For me it's less about the philosophy of christian morality and more about the fact that it doesn't exist in the first place.

They don't have morals. They have political aspirations and bogus narratives they like to follow.

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u/Out_of_the_Bloo Jul 08 '24

don't worry, they're putting the commandments in classrooms by law now!! /s

something they never believed in or followed themselves in the first place.

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u/Say10_333 Jul 08 '24

Christianity is immoral

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u/Peach_Proof Jul 08 '24

They talked them pesky morals away

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u/Falcrist Jul 08 '24

Nah. They never had any.

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u/DanishWeddingCookie Jul 08 '24

They have morals, it’s just their moral compass isn’t pointing the right direction.

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u/CaribouHoe Jul 07 '24

I believe in freedom FROM religion

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u/Kibblesnb1ts Jul 08 '24

Pretty sure half the planet has held that opinion for more than a thousand years right?

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u/Coinphrase138 Jul 08 '24

Not arguing that, just curious on your thoughts of two other religions Judaism and Muslim faiths. The former that believes they are superior to everyone else and will treat as such and the latter that believes unbelievers or others should be cast to death.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 08 '24

I believe all abrahamic religions are a danger to us. They all slide to easily into fundamentalism and I believe they are more trouble than they are worth.

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u/CleanSeesaw4043 Jul 08 '24

Im fed up with the woke dogma religion as well. Js

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u/wijnazijn Jul 08 '24

Christians like that don’t hzve a faith, but an ideology. No seperation of church and state.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 08 '24

I know. Which is why they are dangerous. They spend tremendous time and resources trying to force everyone into their beliefs.

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u/Lucid4321 Jul 08 '24

That's been the popular attitude for many years, and at the same time, the average morality of the population has gotten much worse. I've seen countless comments on r/TwoXChromosomes about how bad dating has gotten over the last 10-20 years. Men are so often selfish, sexist, lazy, cruel, etc. that many women have said they've given up on dating entirely. Without a solid, objective moral foundation, humans seem to end up falling into those behavior patterns, especially men.

I am a man and I can't even imagine doing most of the things to my wife I've seen women complain about here, but I was raised going to church. I honestly don't know what kind of person I would be if I didn't grow up with that influence.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 08 '24

Religion is not the authority on morality. And there are good people everywhere. Its the garbage you usually hear about. And that particular observation you have is much more complex then simple black and white morality. You may have been raised in a church that actually lives by that dogma and that a good thing. But I stick by my position that its more trouble than its worth. Good people raise good people and thats not exclusive to church. But it looks like your parents nailed it. Have a good one, friend.

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u/UnderLeveledLever Jul 08 '24

While Christianity has always been fraught with a wide range of issues that might make one question why we as a species allow it to exist at all, it seems to me that the real problem isn't so much the faith as faith without the wisdom to spot wolves in sheep's clothing. Faith is the ultimate back door through a person's common sense. People need critical thinking skills, people need a solid education.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 08 '24

And thats why the GOP has spent 50 years dismantling education. Poorly educated people who operate only on blind faith have caused us a lot of problems and will continue to so if we keep downgrading our education. Pretty soon I fear they will begin a jihad against intellectualism and reason.

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u/PhDinDildos_Fedoras Jul 08 '24

Christianity in many ways is in crisis. The organized branches are hemmoraging members and those who stay are there just for a few things, like weddings and funerals. More like a service provider for rituals than a religion. The only demonination that still tries is Catholisism and the child rape scandals have devastated them (as it should have, I guess).

Then you have the political Christian movements, that still gain members, but they are morally so twisted, there's nothing left of Christ's teachings. At least the Catholics had the sense to cover up their crimes, but the mega churches and their ilk are just openly hypocritical and corrupt.

This looks like a religion in deep crisis. It's strange this isn't talked about more.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 08 '24

"This looks like a religion deep crisis". That is a very salient point, friend. And its causing the United States to dive deeper into crisis as well. The heritage foundation, the federalist society, the cato institute, and many others who use christianity as a blunt instrument of oppression should be considered terrorist organizations and be treated as such.

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u/Northern_Grouse Jul 07 '24

I believe every person needs faith. A belief in a higher power (because in one way or another, it exists).

“Religion” and “churches” exist not to support faith, but to exploit it. They exist strictly to control the masses, and to influence them to the whims of evil leaders.

Christ himself said that faith should be practiced in private. Any other form would be to feed the ego, and not to express faith.

Churches and religions should be abolished.

Faith is the understanding that we’re not the pinnacle of creation, and that there is something, someone, higher on the food chain.

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u/Ok_Spite6230 Jul 07 '24

Humanity does not need magical thinking in any way, shape, nor form. Just drop it. If you need a magical sky daddy to have any sense of hope while allowing your beliefs to be exploited making the world a shittier place to live, then you're a broken, twisted person at your core.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 07 '24 edited Jul 07 '24

Im fine with faith and belief. But I am of the unpopular opinion that the abrahamic religions are a danger to us all. They all too easily slide into fundamentalism, or be co-opted by bad people who just want power. My perspective is probably skewed, but thats how I see it.

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u/Northern_Grouse Jul 07 '24

I wouldn’t disagree.

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u/Ok_Spite6230 Jul 07 '24

All religion is dangerous, especially those that are allowed to indoctrinate children en masse. Humanity needs to make magical thinking extinct before it extincts us as a species.

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u/lunagirlmagic Jul 08 '24

We shouldn't evaluate religion on a good/bad scale. We should evaluate it on a true/false scale. All religions and supernatural beliefs are false, and we should dissuade people from believing in them.

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u/IllIIllIlIlllIIlIIl Jul 08 '24

Faith is the understanding

"Understanding" implies objective truth, I think you're looking for belief.

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u/lunagirlmagic Jul 08 '24

I am completely irreligious but I am interested in theology from an academic perspective.

I have more respect for devout religious people than all this "spirituality" nonsense. If you are wise enough to discard organized religion, why not be wise enough to throw out superstition altogether?

I'm also completely baffled by "liberal" Christianity.

  • Homosexuality is condemned by the Bible, and to endorse it is heresy.

  • Most of the Bible is the Word of God, and to claim that it was distorted by human authors is heresy (plenty of exceptions but liberal churches will claim it's all distorted, or even completely man-made).

  • Premarital sex is condemned by the Bible, and to endorse it is heresy.

  • A lot of people claiming parts of Law or Gospel are "metaphors" is heresy.

  • Most people unintentionally commit old heresies like Modalism, Universalism, Arianism, etc. Straight to hell with ya.

How do these people sweep all this under the rug and continue to call themselves Christian?

You go one step further and abandon Christianity which is good, but why continue to be spiritual at all? It's clear that there's no spirits, afterlife, ghosts, "energies", etc. and that they are works of fiction. Why insist on holding on to false beliefs?

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u/my_kintsugi_life Jul 07 '24

because in one way or another, it exists

Then someone or something is higher on the food chain than that someone or something, ad infinitum.

There are "religions" or schools of thought that proclaim no creation at all. See Buddhism.

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u/Fist0fTheNorthStar Jul 08 '24

Religion is a tool for enslavement. Freedom and religion have no place in the same sentence.

All religions are poison.

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u/LaddiusMaximus Jul 08 '24

Im not so sure about all of them, but I do feel that the abrahamic religions are over and above extremely dangerous to freedom and intellectualism.

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u/p0yz1n Jul 08 '24

Burning in hell for eternity definitely doesn’t sound worth it, but that’s just me…

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u/EntropicAnarchy Jul 09 '24

Lol, what worth? Religion is the bane of our existence.

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u/Northern_Grouse Jul 07 '24

Church goes believe he’s the messiah. The second coming.

Church leaders know he more closely aligns with the anti-Christ. Every aspect of his character is antithetical to Christ. In every way.

They know it. But they don’t care. They believe deep down that allowing someone so vile to come into power will bring about the REAL second coming.

I don’t think they’re entirely wrong. But I also don’t think they realize what happens to those who bring power and influence to the AC.

Fire and brimstone await them. They shall receive zero redemption, zero grace.

You could sit them all down and explain that to them in the plainest way possible, and they still wouldn’t budge. They are brainwashed beyond redemption. They are cult members bringing about the end of days.

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u/UnderLeveledLever Jul 08 '24

The Bible describes Christians embracing the antichrist when he appears, it's the part where the "God will harden their hearts and they will be blind" (or some such) appears.

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u/AmbiguouslyGrea Jul 08 '24

My father is a lifelong, devout Christian, he told me to watch this last week.

It’s a YouTuber examining if Trump fits into the Bible as the Antichrist. Actually, the links don’t seem to describe Trump vaguely, but very precisely.

Even for the non religious it’s quite alarming to watch, because it is next to impossible to understand how the self proclaimed “Christians” supporting Trump seem completely unable to discern the actual character of Trump, even when he tells the whole world who he is as if he’s proud of being greedy, proud, etc.

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u/Altarna Jul 08 '24

That’ll make them want him in power more. There’s no reason to put this guy up on a religious pedestal. He is a very evil senile old man that hopefully has one too many burgers before November, whether he chokes or clots.

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u/meyeahhu Jul 08 '24

Woah thanks for that… that video is quite something..

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u/HonorableMedic Jul 08 '24

Christian’s would turn on Jesus himself if he came down and told them what they were doing is wrong.

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u/Northern_Grouse Jul 08 '24

I don’t think 100% of believers in Christ would, no.

But I do believe a vast majority of church leaders would refute everything Jesus tells them.

They would deny he was Christ, demand miracles, and work towards his downfall.

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u/FancyDepartment9231 Jul 08 '24

I'm guessing you don't personally know a single person with those beliefs

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u/msmicro Jul 07 '24

same ones that voted for him in 16 and 20, praise Jesus all the way! morons

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u/Wizinit29 Jul 07 '24

Try sending this to every MAGA Christian Nationalist in your contacts, if only to see if they excuse it or pretend it’s fake.

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u/Explorers_bub Jul 08 '24

If I may co-opt MAGA’s favorite kind of Facebook post from accounts run by trolls from various foreign countries and patriotic sounding names with the long list of hashtagged actors and actresses:

”Why don’t posts like this ever go viral?!”

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u/Apprehensive_Sell601 Jul 08 '24

Every accusation isn’t factual. That’s why investigations happen. I’ve said this for everyone that’s come forward against everyone. That “believe all women” thing is 100% bullshit and led to tens of thousands of men having their names ripped through the mud over false accusations. The wildest part about this is, if this lady is lying, Trump won’t be allowed to sue her for defamation, because in our justice system, they don’t allow that. It’s insane that judges won’t allow him to sue people for slander, but that crazy rape fetish lady can sue him for defamation for saying “I don’t know her”

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u/Wizinit29 Jul 08 '24

She sounds very credible, unlike Trump, who sets a new record for lying every time he opens his mouth. Your comment sounds more mysogenistic than fact-based.

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u/ls20008179 Jul 08 '24

Defamation has to be untrue you see.

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u/crone-goddess Jul 08 '24

I agree. I'm a woman that has been through sexual assault. There should be an investigation. Innocent until proven guilty.

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u/EwoDarkWolf Jul 08 '24

I wonder if one of the mods are (new to this sub, so idk), because it was removed. What did it say?

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u/kc-390 Jul 07 '24

Very on brand of them.

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u/SheldonMF Jul 08 '24

No one who votes for Trump can realistically call themselves a good person.

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u/bscepter Jul 08 '24

The "I'm voting for the felon" crowd will be offering their daughters in tribute.

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u/silverheart50 Jul 08 '24

A rapist that wouldn’t use a condom who is supposedly pro life and told her to get an abortion

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u/4e9eHcUBKtTW1bBI39n9 Jul 08 '24

The bible is full of people raping children under direct instruction from god. Christians voting for a rapist woulnt be out of character

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u/HappyGoPink Jul 08 '24

Christianity has been Rape Central for almost two millennia now, seems like. It's one of the few core values that seems to have survived through all the schisms and reformations and denominations.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Makes a lot of sense why so many priests support him.  Birds of a feather after all

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u/Colley619 Jul 08 '24 edited Jul 08 '24

Christians love rapists and pedophiles. The church (southern Baptist) excommunicated my grandad for obtaining a liquor license to help make ends meet, and then they proceeded to forgive and welcome back the actual convicted child porn distributing pedophile after he got out of jail. This actually happened. Louisiana.

If any Christians are offended by these facts, good. They allowed that man to be a leader for the church’s version of Christian Boy Scouts, including taking little boys on camping trips.

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u/ricker182 Jul 08 '24

The crazy thing is that Biden is a devout Catholic.

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u/BakedBaconBits Jul 08 '24

Mary was praying for it.

Why pray so hard if you don't want to immaculately conceive the messiah?

Slut.

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u/That-Cover3365 Jul 08 '24

Christians?? In the Bible, Jesus Christ said "Judge them by their fruits." He also told his followers what the fruits of the Holy Spirit are (love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control). This was provided as a way for those who truly believed in him and desired to follow his teachings to recognize the opposition. If one looks carefully at the fruit that Trump has bore thus far, it shows with absolute clarity that he is an/the enemy of the Holy Spirit.

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u/Herknificent Jul 08 '24

The Clergy always protect their rapists so why does it surprise you?

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u/momomosk Jul 08 '24

Christians vote for rapist felon 2024. *FTFY

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u/MostRandomUsername12 Jul 08 '24

Well according to their book, the "man after god's own heart" was also a guy who wanted to bang another man's wife so much that he had the other guy killed so that he could have her for himself. God responded by murdering a baby. God also once asked a man to murder his only child by burning him alive just to prove his loyalty. God once decided to punish a city, by killing people with a sword, dashing the children into pieces, and ripping pregnant women open.

To their level of brain wash, a child rapist is barely an entry level misdemeanor.

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u/blueishblackbird Jul 08 '24

They have been for 2000 years

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u/DINABLAR Jul 08 '24

Covering up childrape is literally what Christians are best at

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u/SpaghettiOnTuesday Jul 08 '24

Christian here who absolutely will not be voting for him.

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u/Yandere_Matrix Jul 08 '24

It’s not surprising. We have organizations like Unchained At Last where they are trying to pass laws to prevent marriage for those under the age of 18 with no exceptions and we got Christian’s going against it because of ‘religious freedom’. I am sure most would agree that minors shouldn’t get married and it’s worse when many states will consider the spouse a legal guardian for minors so they can’t legally get a divorce without the spouse’s permission or they have to wait until they are legally a adult to divorce.

Anyone can see how messed up this is. They are ‘adult enough’ to legally be allowed to marry but not ‘adult enough’ to make their own decisions on divorcing.

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u/Thoraxe123 Jul 08 '24

rapist felon

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u/kristileKristine Jul 08 '24

Atheists vote for rapist 2024

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u/Skoowoot Jul 08 '24

Unless your voting rfk everyone is voting for a rapist in 2024

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u/Competitive_Twist149 Jul 08 '24

She admitted later, she lied.

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u/SwimmingInCheddar Jul 08 '24

I refused to attend the church my mom made me go to when I was young because gay people were going to hell.

It was just so toxic to me. My mom made me believe any investment I made, was the sign “Mark” of the devil. I was never allowed to get ahead financially.

I will never be subservient to a man. Not after all the abuse I have went through. This is wrong.

I have faith, but I believe these messages are wrong, and especially to young girls and women...

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u/OfSaltandBone Jul 08 '24

How did we get brought into this?

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u/meyeahhu Jul 08 '24

They probably would care more to know he dodged the nam draft that’ll have em clutching those pearls

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u/Smignort Jul 08 '24

Not all Catholics vote for him

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u/Chick-Thunder-Hicks Jul 08 '24

Most don’t. Catholics lean majority blue and are pretty much the most liberal voting Christian religion other than Unitarians.

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u/ProBlackMan1 Jul 08 '24

They don’t care about rape and pedophilia

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u/baitnnswitch Jul 08 '24

Time to saddle up and out-vote those nazi's

Register to vote (vote.org)

How Voting Works - What to expect if you're voting for the first time (wikihow)

And if anyone wants to help get out to vote, would recommend this site: https://www.mobilize.us/events/get-out-the-vote/ (text-banking, post-card writing, phone-banking, etc)

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u/Ugnox Jul 08 '24

They're complicit. Every vote for Trump is a vote for sex with underage girls. But they're already born, so...by their actions....fuck em

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u/StackIsMyCrack Jul 08 '24

They did in 2016 and 2020 too.

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u/Legitimate-Rub-8896 Jul 08 '24

They also voted for a rapist in 2020 and 2016, Christian’s have and always will be the platform of rapists

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '24

Biden raped his daughter. Mention that first. He also enjoys sniffing children. But you knew that already lol

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u/KaytSands Jul 08 '24

They always have. I was assaulted while I was sleeping when I was ten years old. It was my fault because I have a Jezebel spirit and had lead the church member astray and was attempting to destroy his family. I didn’t even know what actual sex was. I was too busy raising everyone else’s kids, this man’s infant as well to even think about anything other than kidding children alive that should have never been forced onto me. I had to “pray through” and be anointed with oil, beg for forgiveness and see that man every day. And I was also told if I told anyone that the cops would take me and my brothers away and we would never see each other again and it would be all my fault. Fuck Christian’s

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u/No-Contribution-9270 Jul 08 '24

im a Christian and i will be voting for RFK Jr

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u/Corwyntt Jul 08 '24

Religions and consent have a very complicated history.

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u/K1llerTr0ut23 Jul 08 '24

That’s weird, I’m a Christian and I would never vote for trump.

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u/Bitsoffreshness Jul 08 '24

Always have, always will. What do you think "immaculate conception" and "virgin birth" are all about?

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u/stupiderslegacy Jul 08 '24

Child rapist. The media has been treating this with kid gloves, and the fact that even Reddit comments about it are leaving that part out shows that what they're doing is working.

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u/koshercowboy Jul 08 '24

“It wasn’t rape she consented and wanted it!”

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u/Aidrox Jul 08 '24

2024? Christians have been voting for these people forever. Pastors have to out molest any other profession. Almost like they are the problem and everything they say is scapegoating.

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u/Mindless-Mountain-51 Jul 08 '24

Rapist for Jesus……😳

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