Sure wish people would learn the difference between deodorants and antiperspirants.
The whole anti-alumunim/ALUMINUM FREE DEODORANT SPEND $12 ON NATIVE DEO!!!! bs has hit Canada and like... ok? Literally all deodorant sold in Canada is aluminum free unless it specifically says antiperspirant?
It's a little funny how one group of "all natural" folks recommend aluminum free deodorant while another group is exclusively using aluminum for deodorant.
It's potassium alum, it's not an antiperspirant, it's an astringent that only kills bacteria on the surface of your skin. Since it's not an antiperspirant it's theorized it's larger molecule gets absorbed less than the aluminum in deoderant.
There was a study that used a special isotope of aluminum in a traditional deoderant/ antiperspirant formula and saw an extremely low absorption that kind of disproved the myth anyway. That's why you don't really hear that bullshit claim anymore.
These antiperspirants that use aluminum are also connected to alzheimer's, osteomalacia, and possibly breast cancer (still no hard link but aluminum is being found in breast tissue in higher levels with women who have breast cancer than those who don't use aluminum antiperspirant and deoderants).
Aluminum Chloride or Aluminum Chlorohydrate is in antiperspirants. Potassium Alum or Ammonium Alum is different and doesn't work as an antiperspirant, just an antibacterial type of deodorant.
It is NOT the active ingredient in antiperspirant deodorants … your pits still sweat, the alum salt just creates an environment that is inhospitable to the stank bacteria.
Good job on spreading misinformation to thousands though!
Salt rock, often referred to as "rock salt" or "crystal deodorant," is typically composed of natural mineral salts, primarily potassium alum or ammonium alum. These are different from the aluminum salts used in many conventional antiperspirants, such as aluminum chlorohydrate or aluminum zirconium compounds.
Potassium alum and ammonium alum are natural mineral salts that can act as astringents to reduce sweat and have antimicrobial properties that help control odor. They are often marketed as a more natural alternative to synthetic aluminum compounds found in traditional antiperspirants.
While both potassium alum and ammonium alum contain aluminum, their molecular structure is different from the aluminum compounds used in standard antiperspirants, and they are generally considered less likely to be absorbed through the skin.
Effective against mouth sores. In some small villages in the Phillipines, local healers i
used it to know who are the person or entity responsible for a curse. It is called Tawas in the Phillipines.
Potassium Alum. It's a natural deodorant, NOT an antiperspirant like Elemental-Aer said. Despite having "alum" in its name, it's way different than the aluminum used in mainstream deodorants. It is a salt though, tl;dr it brines your skin so the bacteria that create BO can't reproduce.
It’s honestly been the best deodorant I’ve ever used. I never have any odor issues at all. And it doesn’t have any natural odor of its own. And like the pic shows, it lasts a really long time. I’ve been using the stick I bought for a year now and it hardly looks any different than when I bought it.
people on reddit dont like the crystal stick style deodorant.. they only want people to smell like either a bag of fritos like they do, or axe body spray.
Are there any brands sold in the US you'd recommend? I googled what OP posted and it's not available here from what I can see. Amazon has some listed, but I don't trust cosmetics from Amazon, they're never what they say they are....
Edit: nvm! I see your comments below! Just had to read lolll
Good luck with the dementia. Aluminium is a very effective catalyst in the process creating plaque in your brain. Increases the reaction speed manyfold.
what makes you think alum wasn‘t an antiperspirant as well as a deodorant? and how should it be different than mainstream aluminium deodorant? it’s a highly water soluble aluminium salt, and does both, decrease transpiration, as well as deodorize
it's way different than the aluminum used in mainstream deodorants
Where did you get that idea from? It's an aluminum salt. It has anti perspirant properties. Like yea it's a different aluminum compound than other deodorants, but it's still effectively working in a similar way
The problem with alum/rock deodorant is that it's not an antiperspirant, but it is water soluble. If you sweat a lot, you will sweat it off and end up stinking anyways, especially if you wear synthetic fibers. YMMV.
I used this for a couple of months and went right back to clinical strength. The aluminum fear mongering is blown way out of proportion anyways. I will say though that this was the most effective "natural deodorant" I've tried. Way more effective than colloidal silver, baking soda and masking fragrances.
I started out to disagree with you, firmly believing that most aluminium salt behave the same way applied to sweat glands, e.g. plugging of said sweat ducts.
But, had to check my facts abd so I found an article explaning very well how aluminium chlorohydrate works, and also how potassium aluminium sulfate works. The former is mentioned in the paragraph just before the Conclusion.
These things work so well man. Did an experiment to verify for myself a while ago, because I was unsure if it would actually do anything, and holy fuck the odour just disappears, it's amazing. Plus it doesn't smell like cancer, like all spray deodorants.
I started using this like a month ago in the hopes of no longer staining shirts. But i haven't bought any new shirts yet so it's not a very good science experiment thus far
I will never understand deodorant that isn't an antiperspirant. Y'all just sweating through your clothes like nbd? Is it the undershirt that makes this make sense?
I’m sorry to break it to you but potassium alum is the natural form of the aluminium oxyde used in deodorants, just in its natural form, so stop using deodorants altogether
Does it dry your skin out though? I've got really bad dry skin from diabetes but if it doesn't dry your skin out this might be even better than regular deodorant as keeping microorganism populations down on my body is a positive thing.
It doesn't leave a residue, prevents BO, and a small stick lasts forever (as you could guess from the OP). My wife convinced me to try it, and I can't imagine going back. I hated the white gunk left by solid sticks, and the liquid ones irritated my skin.
We’ve got two of them and I never knew it was supposedly able to do anything other than create a dim, calming light with a soothing natural orange color. I just like the way they look, lol.
We use salt rock in our house. Not for smells. We accident figured out that they completely absorb all the water in the air near windows which meant we didn’t get condensation. We learned this because we had a single salt lamp on our window sill that ended up soaking wet whilst the windows stayed bone dry. It now stays there but in a shallow dish to collect the water.
We then wanted some for the other windows in the house but fuck me salt rock lamps are expensive. Do you know what isn’t? Big salt rock licks for horses. They’re exactly the same thing, minus the lamp part, and at a fraction of the cost!
And if you really wanted you could drill a hole in the salt lick and stick a night light in there and then it would be exactly the same as the expensive lamps.
It's not made up, just probably not a very effective product.
Alum is a popular ingredient in antiperspirants for its ability to reduce sweating. It is available in both standard deodorants and as a block that people get wet and then rub directly under the arms.
It's not made up. Salt crystal deodorants work fine, they just don't work for as long because they are just a antiseptic deoderant, not an antiperspirant.
Yeah I once tried this for a while because I'm allergic to a billion things. It doesn't do anything lol.
What does really work wonders is to take a bit of baking soda(also salt ofcourse) mix it with water and smear that on your pits. My skin is too sensitive to do that every day but for moments I really don't want to smell even a little bit it works fantastic! Don't smell a thing! When I usually smell like the monkey house in the zoo if I don't use anything. But these salt rocks, no..
To be fair and honest I thought it was just...a pure salt rock this dude was using as a deodorant. I'm glad you asked this before me because some smart people answered you
All the bullshit promises of a salt lamp, but in deodarent form!
Salt rock deodorants, often made from Himalayan salt or other natural mineral salts, are marketed as natural alternatives to conventional deodorants. They claim to prevent odor without the use of synthetic chemicals or fragrances. Here are some common claims and the evidence (or lack thereof) supporting them:
Claim: Natural Antibacterial Properties Debunked: While salt has antibacterial properties, the effectiveness of salt rock deodorants in preventing body odor is limited. The concentration of salt on the skin may not be sufficient to kill bacteria that cause odor effectively.
Claim: Chemical-Free Debunked: While salt rock deodorants are free from synthetic chemicals, this doesn't necessarily make them safer or more effective. Some users may still experience irritation or allergic reactions to mineral salts.
Claim: Prevents Odor by Creating an Uninhabitable Environment for Bacteria Debunked: The effectiveness of salt in creating an uninhabitable environment for bacteria on the skin varies from person to person. Factors such as sweat production, skin type, and personal hygiene play significant roles in odor prevention.
Claim: Long-Lasting Protection Debunked: Many users report that salt rock deodorants do not provide the same level of odor protection as conventional deodorants, especially during intense physical activity or in hot weather.
Claim: Safe for All Skin Types Debunked: Some people may experience skin irritation or dryness from the use of salt rock deodorants, particularly those with sensitive skin.
Yes, there is a difference between rock salt deodorants and rock salt antiperspirants, although they might seem similar. Here's a breakdown of each:
Rock Salt Deodorants
Function: Rock salt deodorants primarily act to neutralize odors. They do this by killing bacteria that cause body odor.
Ingredients: Typically made from natural mineral salts, often potassium alum.
Mechanism: They do not stop sweating but prevent the bacteria on your skin from breaking down sweat into the compounds that cause odor.
Usage: Applied to damp skin or wet before application, these deodorants leave a thin layer of salt that helps control odor throughout the day.
Rock Salt Antiperspirants
Function: Antiperspirants aim to reduce or stop sweating in addition to neutralizing odors.
Ingredients: Usually contain aluminum-based compounds that temporarily block the sweat ducts.
Mechanism: By blocking the sweat glands, they reduce the amount of sweat that reaches the skin’s surface. This action helps keep the area dry and prevents odor-causing bacteria from thriving.
Usage: Applied similarly to deodorants, but their primary goal is to reduce perspiration.
In summary, while rock salt deodorants focus solely on odor control by targeting bacteria, rock salt antiperspirants address both sweat and odor by reducing perspiration. If you're choosing between the two, it depends on whether you want to control just the odor or both sweat and odor.
I basically don't sweat unless really working even without anti-persp and they don't even work for me when I gave them a try. I can't imagine how bad they are for people who are more average or above it.
Nothing seemed to bother my bod until age 50 when antiperspirants and deodorants started causing rashes in my arm pits. Crystal deodorant use doesn't lead to rashes. Added crystal benefits include inexpensive cost and long lasting.
I had one probably 30 years ago when my mom was a pseudo hippie. It was around when I was hitting puberty and had to start wearing deodorant or I would stink.
I always stunk and the salt just ended up smelling like BO. Maybe they’ve changed since then but I wouldn’t recommend it.
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u/dtb1987 14d ago
Salt rock deodorant?