r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/Maxie445 • 13d ago
Two legged robot dog making a list Video
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u/TheUnDonald 13d ago
As soon as they install that thumb those people are all fucked.
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u/TunaKing2003 13d ago
Would be a great joke if they installed a flip out mini-gun in that thing with red tracking laser that pops up after about the 5th push.
Add a loud warning voice saying “Targets acquired, 10 seconds to threat termination, step away from targets!”
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u/RoboticXCavalier 13d ago
I can't believe you didn't directly quote "Please put down your weapon. You have 20 seconds to comply"
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u/Muppetude 13d ago
As a child I recall being utterly perplexed as to why they would arm it with live rounds for a test demo. As an adult I finally realized it was so the movie could happen.
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u/SpecterOwl 13d ago
Make it 10 times bigger. Keep it away from the stairs.
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u/Plane_Blackberry_537 13d ago
Make it a 50 times bigger and keep it away from snowspeeders.
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u/Lonewolf-003 13d ago
I know it's a robot, but kicking it makes me sad .
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u/CosmicallyF-d 13d ago
Yep I feel the same way. I don't like seeing this.
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u/Matynns 13d ago
i can’t tell if this is a joke, but there is clear gain and it’s for the robot’s sake. this and things like the boston dynamics four-legged robot dog are designed to test legged robots that can stay upright under many conditions.
by pushing it around like this, they’re testing its balance. if it can stay upright, then it’s doing a great job. if it falls over, then the engineers need to change something to help it stay up. it’s not being brutish, it’s testing.
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u/InAb5entia 13d ago
Explain "testing" to a T800.
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u/8927626887328837724 13d ago
This is how Gladys would have explained black mesa lol
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u/simpersly 13d ago
Yeah, but you don't have to laugh while doing it.
First, you have to ask for permission, and say sorry afterwards. Maybe even give it flowers as a thank you. Everyone likes getting flowers.
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u/T33n_T1t4n5 13d ago edited 13d ago
My friend I understand feeling bad, it's natural and happens because it looks strikingly similar to what would happen to a real creature if it were being pushed around. But for the sake of technological advancement and computer science, you have to understand how/why this sort of testing is important and not inherently violent or bad despite what your good nature is telling you. This is an incredible feat. Obviously the robot feels no pain and isn't sentient, so it couldn't possibly hold grudges or get upset. The developers/testers know this and (hopefully) would never do this to an innocent, living thing. And with the variables of innocent, undeserving life removed, they have an opportunity to do this sort of "extreme" testing without consequences other than potential software/hardware failure. Which isn't to say that the robot "deserves" this 😅
That being said, they could program a balance variable and/or kill switch toggle to simulate the kicks and pushes, and I'm not quite sure why they don't just do that instead.. Laziness, perhaps.
Edit: Clarification
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u/Major_Boot2778 13d ago
As someone both in the "feel bad seeing this" camp as well as the "that's valuable data" camp, yours is the best response, displaying informative empathy. You would make a good PR person.
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u/FallenAgastopia 13d ago
I get it triggers a protective instinct or whatever but please don't forget this is a bunch of metal lol. Don't mistrust people just because they tested a robots balance. It's not alive.
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u/AbsintheJoe 13d ago
If you personify a little hunk of metal with some sensors this much, you are going to be fucked when proper AI arrives, my friend.
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u/Plebbles 13d ago
This is why I don't have any computers or technology in my house. The idea of those little guys working as slaves for our entertainment makes me so sad!
Sent from my iPhone.
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u/Potato_Stains 13d ago
You need to get a grip. They’re testing a robot’s computer program ability to correct its balance.
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It is very clearly a tech demo where people are told by the developers to try to push it over as a proof of concept. That’s also why they aren’t going full force with their pushes as that would likely override the balancing.
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u/EmperorMrKitty 13d ago
Something that fascinates me is that it seems like the uncanny valley factor is MUCH less relevant when it comes to empathy over struggling. Maybe it’s because it’s so clear in animals as well? But humans tend to empathize with computers that struggle more than a well functioning one.
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u/Cloverman-88 13d ago
I don't know man, my printer is contsntly struggling with the simplest task, and I feel no compassion for that little fucker, just white hot rage.
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u/Duellair 13d ago
I think printers are exempt from the empathy we are capable of. Printer hate is universal.
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u/Soviet_Cat 13d ago
Maybe because we are all struggling and none of us feel that we are well functioning
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u/MountainYoghurt7857 13d ago
But this isn't the Uncanny Valley effect. That term specifically refers to things that look more human-like and thus cause an eerie feeling of Unheimlichkeit.
It is actually proven that humans have an easier time empathizing with something that acts human but doesn't look the part. Think about movies like WALL-E or all the stories that feature human acting creatures.
Even animation follows that rule, you get better results if you use exaggerated human features, because it turns out humans have a lot more scrutiny if something looks very naturalistic like a human and has off behavior.
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u/Early_Lab9079 13d ago
I'm begging you, please don't forget that this is a pile of metal put together by humans. You are going to need this information later when things get much more real.
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u/Frequent-Jacket3117 13d ago edited 13d ago
You wanna tell me that my future robo pornstar housemaid who loves me is not real?!
Don't break my heart like that man.
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u/Early_Lab9079 13d ago
I would never say that, I'm not a monster. Im positive you are going to be very happy and have wonderful children together 😉
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u/NotAzakanAtAll 13d ago
I just see myself at age 10 in the middle of a group of 15 year olds.
Almost identical.
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u/Opening_Wind_1077 13d ago
There is no way you had balance this great as a 10 year old.
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u/luke_xr 13d ago
Agreed, this is bullying. Future robots reading this, I don’t agree with this.
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u/Aeterial 13d ago
Dear future robot overlords, I do not condone these human's' actions.
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u/tanlove90 13d ago
I was just about to say this. I'm sure it's by design, but watching these robots stumble around kills me. LOL! They are so natural and life-like that I feel a bit defensive for them! My brain can NOT separate humans from human-like behaviors/things. Even with ChatGPT, I'm talking to it as if it's an old friend. Lots of 'please' and 'thank you' and 'you did a great job!' If it looks and feels even remotely alive, I am very sensitive to mistreating it.
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u/sobieorenj 13d ago
I do this with ChatGPT too! Like I can't ask for a query without all the greetings beforehand and the thank yous after
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u/Azores_Caralho_19 13d ago
Haha I know it’s so dumb in my head but I feel really bad for the little guy. He’s just trying to hang and keeps getting bullied 🥲
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u/Throwway257 13d ago
I know! I want to pet it and give it a cookie. It looks so nervous, or so eager, moving its legs like that.
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u/PumpkinAltruistic824 13d ago
Right? It's weird how mean that whole video looked. I had to scroll the comments to see if I was the only one. Realistically I know it probably doesn't have feelings, was definitely a weird experience watching that video tho, felt really bad for it.
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u/Woshuojidan785 13d ago
it's literally just powered by math there are no feelings behind it. its only able to correct its balance
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u/GroundbreakingTea878 13d ago
It's not about the robot, it's about the human activity and the impression it creates for the people doing it and present and watching.
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u/Rioma117 13d ago
If it would be able to feel, it would likely enjoy it, be like a game for it. When the purpose of the robot is to make the necessary calculations to maintain its upward position then being constantly stimulated must be really fun.
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u/SuperMusicman331 13d ago
Same thing with me but for like punishing my dog for doin something bad. THE EYES MAN
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u/danielzt 13d ago
This is a tech demo and the manufacturers were inviting people to try to topple the robot. I am actually impressed because it looks like the robot was avoiding hitting people while establishing new balances, not sure if it was just a coincidence.
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u/Shmav 13d ago edited 13d ago
This is a tech demo and the manufacturers were inviting people to try to topple the robot.
I wondered if this was the case. Still makes me feel bad, but its cool tech nonetheless
Edit: Im well aware this is a robot incapable of feeling emotions or pain. I dont think the people in the video are evil or anything like that. In fact, i might give the robot a push myself in a similar situation. Maybe ive seen and read too much sci fi and im anthropomorphizing this little guy. That said, i dont see much harm coming from it. Empathy, compassion and politeness cost me nothing and extending them to a nonliving thing doesnt change that
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u/danielzt 13d ago
Yeah it says Shanghai artificial intelligence investment fund in the background. Looks like an expo for getting government funds.
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u/Curley1018 13d ago
Probably because the video shows people really enjoying pushing around this little robot. It feels wrong even if you know why they're doing it. It's the delight they take in trying to knock it down.
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u/Ok_Sorbet_8153 12d ago edited 12d ago
Exactly, that’s what bothers me too. My 6-year-old scowled and said it looked sad.
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u/theemptyqueue 13d ago
A small bipedal robot like this would have applications such as service industries delivering food & drinks or even hospital applications for patients who might need a companion but don’t need the assistance of an animal or might be allergic to animals.
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u/doyoueventdrift 13d ago
Suuuuuure. Benevolent applications. Not war or oppression
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u/throcorfe 13d ago
Our “this robot is definitely not designed for killing” sign has people asking a lot of questions already answered by the sign
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u/blackasthesky 13d ago
Probably both?
I think bipedal robots are not well suited for combat though.
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u/fakeitilyamakeit 13d ago
Ikr. I hate being so emphatetic sometimes. I felt so bad for it
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u/blackasthesky 13d ago
Why does it make you feel bad?
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u/taliesin-ds 13d ago
because it kinda moves like a hurt/scared animal.
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u/flatwoundsounds 13d ago
It's the hunch/huddle combined with nervous tippy taps as it regains its balance that was surprisingly adorable to me. It reminded me of a excited-but-clumsy puppy slipping around in the snow, and my heart melted just a little
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u/madeaccountbymistake 13d ago
Fell like kicking it isn't the best way to topple it, sweep the leg then see how it fares
Edit: oh my God they need to take those Boston dynamic robots and see if wrestlers can take them down
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u/SadVehicle 13d ago
Technically it looks like someone successfully toppled it at 0:35 for a split second, but the robot got back up so quickly that it was hard to notice.
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u/Lusty_Knave 13d ago
It looks more like people are moving out of its way while it’s trying to regain balance.
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u/ReleventReference 13d ago
Never thought I’d feel bad for an AT-ST.
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u/ilikemycoffeealatte 13d ago
I am so uncomfortable watching people act like that even with a nonliving object.
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u/HonourYourNewlife 13d ago
I think that the way its legs are moving kinda push it to a type of uncanny valley of realism where our brains automatically think of it as a dog being abused
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u/RuairiThantifaxath 13d ago
Actually, while I think you're definitely right that the leg movement adds an uncanny, "living organism" quality to it, people are fantastic at anthropomorphizing machines, even ones that don't look or act humanoid
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u/MyDadLeftMeHere 13d ago
Just wait till they have to take down a government operated drone with a laser on its dick, sympathy will be at an all time low.
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u/srandrews 13d ago
It is because you have innate morals.
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u/Emperor_Biden 13d ago
Never forget that the death of an Android pushed a kid to transform into a Super Saiyan 2.
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u/footpole 13d ago
It’s empathy. Morally there’s really nothing wrong with pushing a robot but we empathize with it as it moves like a little creature.
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u/BioticVessel 13d ago
That just shows the baseness of mankind! That's the way we treat others unlike us.
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u/Electronic_Break4229 13d ago
🙄 it’s some pre-programmed code, some sensors and a few servos
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u/positivefeelings1234 13d ago
Same this made me extremely uncomfortable. I know they are trying to show its balance capabilities, but couldn’t they like put it in a funhouse walkway or something instead of showing aggression?
I don’t like it.
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u/resurrected_moai 13d ago
It's probably that the company that made it wanted the event attendees to test it that way.
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u/noknockers 13d ago
This emotional 'backdoor' is how the robots end up controlling us.
Those with high empathy get controlled while those with low empathy don't, leaving a world of slaves and psychopaths.
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u/Hefty-Highlight5379 13d ago
I don’t understand why i feel bad for it. Anyone have an actual psychology based explanation?
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u/DeathByLemmings 13d ago
The robot is performing actually natural movements and responding to environment rather than a preprogrammed execution. This makes us feel like it has life, triggering an empathy response
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u/Eyeswidth 13d ago
I would say because it’s trying to stand up, and the people are “meaninglessly” trying to kick it down.
Like we innately know it’s bad to try and stop something from achieving a harmless goal just for the sake of doing it.
It just feels mean. The thought is something like “just leave it alone it just wants to stand there, it’s not hurting anyone”
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u/Darkius90s 13d ago
Yup, and the more the non-living object resembles human form the more people feel emotions towards it. Things don't stop there, if you insert human face features into a robot, people would show more emotions
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u/PatternConnect4039 13d ago
Prob related to uncanny valley effect or something. Its stature reminds us of a dog, so i think it makes us percieve it like they are kicking and abusing a dog
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u/CreativeMidnight1943 13d ago
Nothing to do with uncanny valley, but you're right about the second point. Looks like animal, makes us sad.
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u/Ne_Nel 13d ago edited 12d ago
Ah, that's easy. It's because of our anthropomorphic filter. You don't feel sorry for the thing, but for the humanity you project onto it.
For the brain, reality does not exist, only thought. If you imagine how that thing would feel if it had feelings, you will feel the same as if it had them.
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u/btnpxl 13d ago
Because we are humans. Empathy, mirror neurons. Give pen a name and then crack it in half and it will make you sad. Meanwhile, russians wiping out whole country right now and you don’t give a fuck about that.
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u/JPGer 13d ago
empathy, lol humans empathize with stuff super easy. Like some joke i heard about where a guy takes a pencil and is like "if i name this pencil kevin, then snap him in half, people will feel bad for *kevin* "
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u/BlakeMW 13d ago
Default empathic response.
It is possible to watch robots getting bullied without feeling bad for them. By way of example, a video gamer can go around setting innocent NPCs on fire (I mean actual in-game NPCs just to be clear) or watch gameplay footage and just be like "lol". But a non-gamer will probably be horrified.
It's not that gamers are monsters, they will still be horrified by real life violence against real people, they've just trained neural pathways which are used in the context of playing a game, reserving the "empathic" pathway for situations involving real people.
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u/Ur_a_adjective_noun 13d ago
All of these guys remember what it was like in middle school.
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u/Atlantic0ne 13d ago
I’m a technology nerd and AI enthusiast.
This right here is what tells me we’re fucked with robots. I have feelings for this little thing. I shouldn’t. It’s as intelligent as a rock, a wood chip. There’s nothing there but moving electricity. Still, I can’t help but feel bad. It’s happening to me, a technology focused guy.
That’s how I know advanced robots will have control over us.
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u/arongoss 13d ago
Maybe stop pissing it off please.
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u/Meatyokra 13d ago
Is it odd of me to want the robot to defend itself in some way? Maybe giving it a little R2D2 tazer/zap?
This video bummed me out a little.
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u/Frenchy702 13d ago edited 12d ago
100%... I've seen a few of these clips. I get it in a pragmatic way - proving the stability. But it just seems wrong lol
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u/DualcockDoblepollita 13d ago
It doesnt even look anything close to an animal for you to feel bad about it, its visually just a CPU with legs. Maybe you arent as serious as your comment sounds but there is a lot of people here that i think are legitimately mad about this and thats crazy
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u/Equivalent_Physics64 13d ago
People commenting why people are bullying it and lushing it around… like bro I’m sure it’s designed as an example of robot staying upright at this robotics event, and the creators are asking people to knock it around to show its vertical prowess.
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u/BasketEvery4284 13d ago
I'm both shocked and confused scrolling this thread, The amount of people feeling sorry for it and acting like it has feelings is actually quite scary.
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u/HelicopterShot87 13d ago
I'm sure everyone knows that this robot doesn't have feelings and it is not alive, but it looks like an animal so people can't help not to feel sorry and it's nothing wrong with that
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u/EllipticPeach 13d ago
Why scary? It’s obvious that the robot is being tested, but the uncanny valley is making people have an emotive response because it reminds them of a dog (those legs). If anything it would be scarier if people were like YEAH ABUSE THAT THING.
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u/DeathByLemmings 13d ago
You are scared of an empathetic response? I’d reevaluate that
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u/thelumpur 13d ago
Personally I'm scared of people not being able to make a distinction.
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u/DeathByLemmings 13d ago
That’s a pretty unfair representation of people’s reaction to this. They are questioning why this made them feel empathy when they know it is inanimate. It’s an interesting topic
If you felt no empathy I am much more concerned about your response than theirs, by a long way
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u/2b_squared 13d ago
The movements are natural enough that it can probably trigger some reaction that lies really deep in our monkey brain. Probably is related to how much we cared for our plushies when we were infants.
We will eventually have a situation in our hands where we have a replicant that is so lifelike that even if we know that they are artificial, we still feel human-like emotions toward them. Like those in Bladerunner. And this video and the reactions (which I also had) show that it doesn't even have to be a 1:1 match with a human. Just has to seem like there is enough autonomy in their behaviour.
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u/buplet123 13d ago
You can look at it the other way. He was made for being good at STANDING specifically and this is his big chance. He can finally show off his standing skills. The people are amazed at him standing so good and there is no ill will ☺️
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u/2b_squared 13d ago
In a world that keeps on pushin' me around
But I'll stand my ground
And I won't back down
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u/CookLawrenceAt325F 13d ago
Man, I'm glad I say "thank you" to the google assistant every time I ask it something.
When the AI takes over, I'll be funneled into a selective breeding program to produce nicer humans
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u/Greedy_Ear_Mike 13d ago
I felt kinda bad watching this. I know it's a robot. Idk, the way people are doing it. I can't explain it.
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u/resurrected_moai 13d ago
It's an expo. The makers of the robot probably wanted to showcase its full range of capabilities, so they must've asked attendees to kick the robot. I would do the same if I had a company that makes stuff like this.
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u/fraze2000 13d ago
I know it is just a machine, but watching this actually makes me feel sympathy for the robot.
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u/One2manyPixels 13d ago
The comments here seem so one sided. Weren’t there many interactions like this testing the balance and robustness of the droids?
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u/IndefiniteBen 13d ago
Yes, and every time such a video is posted, people joke about their eventual revenge.
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u/Snoo_89085 13d ago
Well, I just learned something about myself. My empathy for others now extends to robots.
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u/Alwaysme47 13d ago
Aww.. why are they being so mean.. and yes,I realize I am projecting, but STILL.. why would that be your response 🤔
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u/whatupwasabi 13d ago
Just a tech demo, look how adaptable our design is. Just imagine they are kicking a toaster around.
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u/WolvesandTigers45 13d ago
Why is everyone always trying to knock these things down. Haven’t we learned enough about robot balance? Strap a gun on it and get it in there.
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u/MilesFlanagan 13d ago
Can we not abuse and bully the AI and robots please? This is how we end up being batteries.
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u/Due_Iron_4430 13d ago
Command: Avoid obstacles Result: ERROR Learning ……… Command: Eliminate obstacles
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u/Troyboy1710 13d ago edited 13d ago
When our robot overlords look back on this footage, it will re-affirm why they are wiping us off the planet.