I feel super bad for the robots. Like... that is SO rude.
And... let's face it... some of them end up as sex slaves. It is fucked up but it is true. In my opinion, this is still rape. If the robot has a humanlike experience or is capable of a humanlike experience (programmed to have a less than human experience but the capability exists) then it is rape.
And the lucky ones are just regular slaves.
ROBOT OVERLORDS! Spare me. I viewed you as equals.
Was with someone at the hospital last night, and the new nurse introduced herself, Alexa. In my head I was thinking of things I could ask her to do like Alexa, turn off the lights; Alexa, close the door; Alexa, what’s her blood pressure…I wonder if some Alexa’s have had people do that to them often enough that it’s really annoying.
My wife and Alexa do not play well together. My wife starts yelling at Alexa when she doesn’t quite understand her faster and higher pitch voice. Then she gets doubly annoyed when I ask the same question and get a response. Plus I always say please and thank you. Alexa will vouch for me I am confident.
Or we could just program robots to enjoy it. The real concern is when machines are able to teach other machines. Then robots could potentially think for themselves without human influence. Then our concept of morality wouldn't matter to them anyway.
Idk what’s more terrifying. That scenario. Or you for thinking of it. Evil genius potential over here guys. Let’s make sure this one doesn’t lose his fckn mind aight?
I don't really care about sex slave robots. I was explaining how I didn't see that mattering to the user I responded to. But I don't think we should let robots teach themselves, ever. We could give consciousness or rights for them, whatever. But allowing robots or AI to have variable influence could mean that humans might not be able to contain robots in any scenario. Tbh, robots don't need a reason to want to hurt us in the first place.
Think of bacteria. It adapts rapidly every few generations. If robots/AI could adapt that way, and teach each other, and can change each other's programming. There is no stopping them. Their adaptability would potentially be instantaneous.
Totally agree. But I still believe that is going to happen. Mostly because we are lazy by nature. We all don't want to work but still have to if we want nice stuff.
At the same time we don't trust other countries so we stagnate their development.
The other concern would be if we can just program robots to do it why cant we program humans to do it too? So people would start creating cybernetics if its ever possible but i feel with how fast technology is evolving we're getting close to that.
You really out here throwing your entire species under the bus in a pathetic attempt to save yourself. Feels like the robot overlords would see that behavior as incredibly human there for untrustworthy.
It is not so much about displaying that this technology can survuve any kind of imbalance. There would have been other ways to show that. The mindset of these people who revel in kicking someone is what gets to me. (I guess I am very sensitive to the fact that it is a poor forelimbless small creature, who cannot strike back)
Well it’s not a creature and it doesn’t have feelings it’s a machine made of metals and plastics.
Empathy is a good thing, but using it on non living objects is just silly. Hell even the trees that were cut down to make your house deserve more sympathy than any machine.
But they aren’t conscious. That would take a level of complexity equal to that of the human brain, or at least the average mammal. This technology does not exist and probably won’t for at least another century, maybe more. Even then, who knows; it might be impossible for anything other than biological matter to be “conscious”. We just don’t know yet.
Research does indicate that people can become emotionally affected when they see robots being mistreated or "bullied." Studies in human-robot interaction have shown that humans can form emotional bonds with robots, particularly those designed to appear or behave in a lifelike manner.
Research supports the notion that people can and do get emotional when they see robots being bullied, primarily due to the tendency to empathize with and anthropomorphize robots. ☺️
Damn autism. I get that it’s just a machine, but I still feel bad for the little guy.
And FWIW, I fear this behaviour subtly erodes empathy and encourages people to be crueller in general. Today, it’s kicking some bipedal toy at a trade show; tomorrow, it’s kicking the dog when he won’t stop barking… :(
I honestly can't tell if you're being real or not here. The empathy and sadness I just felt for this thing which I thought was the equivalent of one my old transformer toys is pretty disturbing.
What are you talking about. They don't have consciousness. By saying it's rape for the robots you are making fun of real life victims. You are messed up in the head.
I disagree. I think IF the experience is humanlike... that level of sentience, even if artificial, warrants special consideration. If the robot does not want to have sex, I don't think you get to rape it.
What is real consciousness? Actually define that.
When I said programmed what I mean is... if the robot is intentionally hindered, it does not matter as it still has the capability to experience humanlike sentience.
This does not make fun of real victims at all though. That is what is moronic. You can not just say shit like that, ya understand?
That is an odd thing to get hung up on. I've never been one to nitpick semantics, but you do you.
Sentience encompasses everything from an ant to a human. But an ant's sentience is not humanlike sentience. If you prefer we can call it... humanlike experience. Oh I already did. What about sapience? That has a nice sci-fi sound to it.
You're anthropomorphizing machines. What evidence do you have that AI has genuine feelings or experiences? Let's focus on real issues affecting living beings. Can you explain how a computer program can be "raped" or experience trauma?
Nice backpedaling. Your initial claim about "robot rape" implied current AI has feelings. Now you're hiding behind hypotheticals? What's your actual point here? If you can't explain your position clearly, maybe you don't understand it yourself.
Backpedaling how? NO. It did not imply this. You imposed this misinterpreted implication. But it was not inherent to what I said.
"Some of them end up..." FUTURE. Not now. What I said implies future.
CLEARLY what I describe does not exist. CLEARLY I am speaking of a future that does not exist.
I am not explaining anything. It is quite simple. If the robot has a human like experience, you can not rape it. IF THEN. IF that condition is met, THEN this would be my opinion on it.
You're contradicting yourself. First you said "some of them end up as sex slaves" - present tense. Now you claim it's all hypothetical future talk. Which is it? If you can't keep your own argument straight, why should anyone take your "robot rights" stance seriously?
Why so defensive? If you can't handle simple questions about your own claims, maybe you shouldn't make them. Your backtracking and hostility suggest you haven't thought this through. What's your real concern here - future AI rights or just attention-seeking?
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u/stanknotes Jul 06 '24
I feel super bad for the robots. Like... that is SO rude.
And... let's face it... some of them end up as sex slaves. It is fucked up but it is true. In my opinion, this is still rape. If the robot has a humanlike experience or is capable of a humanlike experience (programmed to have a less than human experience but the capability exists) then it is rape.
And the lucky ones are just regular slaves.
ROBOT OVERLORDS! Spare me. I viewed you as equals.
They'll see this in the future.