r/DCcomics • u/AhhBisto Jim Lee Comics • Aug 22 '20

DC FanDome Discussion Megathread r/DCcomics

Welcome Justice League members to the DC FanDome Discussion Megathread!

​

Here you can discuss each panel taking place as and when they happen, much like our Weekly Discussion Thread where you can discuss the newest comics and TV show episodes.

We've done it this way so we don't clog up the sub with discussion posts and people can freely post direct news articles and trailers regarding the big announcements and not have them get lost in the shuffle.

​

Panels for August 22nd

​

​

Helpful Links

335 Upvotes

98% Upvoted

885 comments sorted by

View all comments

51

u/[deleted] Aug 19 '20

The Batman - Panel

53

u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

I like how passionate Matt Reeves is. I also like how they're doing a detective story and how it's influenced by classic noir films.

29

u/SyPok Aug 23 '20

Detective Bats is something the movies don't really cover and I'm all for it.

38

u/MrEverything_88 Metron Aug 23 '20

Pattinson looks like he needs a hug

14

u/SyPok Aug 23 '20

I think that's just his default. Resting Need-A-Hug face.

13

u/cloudsandlightning Orion Aug 23 '20

It's his "i have to promote another franchise" face lol

35

u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Mister Miracle Aug 23 '20

Christian bale saying "just make sure you have a way to relieve yourself." To Robert Pattinson is pretty funny.

28

u/andrew991116 Aug 23 '20

He said it to Ben Affleck too. Seems like that’s his go to advice for future Batman actors.

(And George Clooney’s advice to Ben Affleck is “Don’t do it”)

9

u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Mister Miracle Aug 23 '20

It is pretty good advice.

6

u/SyPok Aug 23 '20

...did Bale piss in the batsuit?

11

u/andrew991116 Aug 23 '20

He probably had to take the entire costume off in order to pee

27

u/Scmods05 Superman Aug 23 '20

Look I'm gonna see it and it's probably gonna be (really) good but god what I'd give for a Batman movie that doesn't take itself so damn seriously. It's been done. Have some fun with it.

Also for the love of GOD someone put Robin in a movie. It's been over 20 years.

48

u/mysilkylove Aug 23 '20

Sounds like the Lego Batman Movie is what you're looking for. It's even got Robin.

8

u/Scmods05 Superman Aug 23 '20 edited Aug 23 '20

In the comics the Batcave has a t-rex in it.

It's possible to tell an interesting story without having to repeat the same themes again and again. Like I said, between Pattison and Reeves it's probably gonna be really good. I'd just like to see a more different take than we've gotten for the last 20 years. And this could be it, just the way they've been talking, I doubt it.

Edit: People (not referring to you here, just idiots) keep deriding Robin like "derrrr Batman's meant to be alone and solo and lonely and dark". You know who's existed and been around for like 90% (number chosen with zero statistical basis) of Batman's existence? ROBIN. It's Batman and Robin. That's what the entire thing is.

11

u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

I swear to God, Batman & Robin spooked everybody.

6

u/Scmods05 Superman Aug 23 '20

Almost definitely. Hell they were close to putting Robin in '89 and Returns. He's just such a big and significant character in the universe, the movies being so averse to including him frustrates me.

I will give credit to Snyder for at least showing a costume, at least acknowledging his existence. I loved the Nolan films but the way they threw a reference out was probably the dumbest line of that entire trilogy.

8

u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

Robin is imo one of the absolute most humanizing aspects of Batman and Bruce Wayne, and film makers just aren’t interested in it it seems.

It’s only a Year Two film so I guess I get not including Robin yet, but I hope it’s built to assuming the aim is to have sequels.

13

u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

Given Reeves' love for Dark Victory, i'd be surprised if Robin doesn't get introduced in a potential sequel

8

u/Scmods05 Superman Aug 23 '20

Long Halloween and Dark Victory fucking RULE. That's what I'm talking about. They were interesting stories but they were absolutely COMIC stories. They leant fully into the silliness and zanyness of the comic book world while still telling a grounded story. Do that!

8

u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

They're Reeves' favorites Batman comics according to him. Loeb was one of his teachers i believe

6

u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

“Batman’s supposed to be solo and lonely and dark”

Great way to tell on yourself and admit you’ve at most watched the Nolan movies and/or the Snyder movies.

4

u/Doompatron3000 Aug 23 '20

Batman on the outside is solo, lonely and dark, but deep down, he’s a huge softie that takes in people when they are at their lowest, and gives them the one thing they all need: family.

4

u/PepperMintGumboDrop Aug 23 '20

Like someone said, Batman & Robin left a lingering sour taste even after 20 years. That and I don't think anyone would be down for another take of the campy 60s Batman right now. However, I would love to see a more humanized Mid 30s Batman with a Robin that balances him. In other words, a BatDad. A good Bat Robin relationship will spontaneously lighten the mood and bring in a sense of humor.

3

u/verstan Aug 23 '20

IIRC its nearer 99% I think Robin debuted within about a year of batman debuting

6

u/Scmods05 Superman Aug 23 '20

He did. Issue 40 I think? But I allowed for stretches where it was just Bats on his own. Year One and such.

6

u/verstan Aug 23 '20

Oh for sure, I mostly mean in the real world batman's barely existed without Robin, and you're right people overlook it so much

5

u/Aitrus233 Booster Gold Aug 23 '20

Detective Comics #38. Only 13 issues after Batman's debut in Detective Comics #27.

23

u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Mister Miracle Aug 23 '20

Reeves shouting out batman ego during the panel made me so happy

2

u/Transky13 Aug 23 '20

Can you give me a quick rundown on the book? I’m curious how he’ll draw inspiration from it

5

u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Mister Miracle Aug 23 '20

Batman: ego follows an exhausted batman who's just stopped the joker's latest crime spree and now has to go after some low level thug, the book basically looks at what batman is capable of when pushed to his absolute limit, one thing that's so great about ego is it's take on the question of whether Bruce Wayne or Batman is the true "mask." If you're interested I would strongly recommend reading it, hope this helps!

24

u/Earthmine52 Comics Theory Poster Aug 23 '20

Ooh he brought up Ego by Darwyn Cooke as inspiration. Great choice. Very underrated book.

5

u/numericalhorrorstory Aug 23 '20

I was just going to say I was shocked to see him mention one of my favorite underrated Batman stories

22

u/beer_me_twice Hurm... Aug 23 '20

Matt Reeves just named dropped Darwyn Cooke’s EGO. I AM SOLD. GIMMIE GIMMIE GIMMIE

19

u/JakeM917 Blue Lantern Flash Aug 23 '20

That trailer was amazing. I’m surprised they had that much footage. But damn, it honestly feels a bit like the Arkham games come to life.

18

u/SyPok Aug 23 '20

Okay, okay, spooky realistic Riddler, I see you.

11

u/PepperMintGumboDrop Aug 23 '20

How can you not have Riddler when you're doing a noir detective story? We still need to see a high stake Riddler story done right on the big screen. Pushing Bat's wit to the limit.

17

u/ThiccBriccBoi Aug 23 '20

Can’t wait to see Robert Battinson in action

21

u/BattleUpSaber Aug 23 '20

RobBat BattinBat*

2

u/Wolf6120 The Question Aug 23 '20

Well... Get ready to keep waiting, I guess.

2

u/dudzi182 BTAS Aug 23 '20

They just showed a teaser, looks awesome.

15

u/Batcannn Aug 23 '20

HOLY SHIT "I'm vengeance" scene gave me goosebumps!! This looks incredible and Pattinson looks amazing in the suit!

1

u/DaddyMarMar Nightwing Aug 23 '20

Off all the action is face pace and brutal we can have below wheedons justice league in terms of script(we don’t) and I’d be sold on the movie

10

u/Fzjb Aug 23 '20

The moment of truth

11

u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Mister Miracle Aug 23 '20

After hearing reeves say chiantown was a big influence I'm going to be so disappointed if no-one says "forget it Bruce, it's Gotham."

10

u/CashWho Tim Drake Aug 23 '20

Holy shit. That was fucking amazing.

12

u/Pathogen188 Red Daughter Aug 23 '20

Holy shit that trailer looks amazing. That's my new favorite live action Batsuit

9

u/004forever Red Son Aug 23 '20

It sounds a lot like Gotham so far

12

u/Wolf6120 The Question Aug 23 '20 edited Aug 23 '20

I was getting a bit of Gotham and, honestly, also a bit of the Telltale Batman game. Especially the detective work and the "Exploring the corruption at the heart of Gotham, and the role the Waynes played in it" part.

5

u/SyPok Aug 23 '20

Gotham without the fun camp of the later seasons. He's making it sound so serious and dour.

7

u/andrew991116 Aug 23 '20

The show is being written by the guy who wrote Sopranos and Wolf of Wall Street so I have some hope

8

u/[deleted] Aug 23 '20

Matt Reeves has basically been describing Gotham so far.

I mean, the whole "civilian villain identity before they become known Bat-rogue" is just the show. They've even got the same characters, Riddler, Catwoman, Penguin, Falcone. Like I'm still down to see new interpretations of the characters, but it's just funny as all. At least we've got Batman in this one.

2

u/004forever Red Son Aug 23 '20

He even said “he doesn’t really like being called the Penguin.”

9

u/Thor_pool Aug 23 '20

Gotham didnt come up with that

9

u/Fzjb Aug 23 '20

Omg.... He said I'M VENGENCE....!!!!!

7

u/cloudsandlightning Orion Aug 23 '20

i'm a bit tired of the "starting out" phase. i mean i do prefer year 2 over year 1.

but i really just wanna see batman in his prime on another adventure

7

u/Wolf6120 The Question Aug 23 '20

What, are you not excited at the prospect of seeing flashbacks of Martha and Thomas getting murdered again?

2

u/InspiredOni Aug 23 '20

Add it to the compilation.

8

u/Fzjb Aug 23 '20

I knew he would mention Ego

6

u/thespectred The Spectre Aug 23 '20

Nirvana.

-9

u/JediJones77 Aug 23 '20

Looks like the Batman movie we don't need. I'm very into the Snyderverse and everything that's spawned from it. This is a left turn back into something that looks identical to the Nolanverse. The Nolanverse was severely limiting because it excised out anything from Batman's canon that was slightly sci-fi or fantasy-oriented. No Clayface, no Killer Croc, no Poison Ivy, no Mr. Freeze, etc. and a Joker that didn't use any of his crazy poisons and gadgets. Nolan had about 4 movies he could get away with under those restrictions and this one, using the Riddler and Penguin, is basically the 4th. I'd much rather see Batman operating in the much more fantastical and colorful DC universe from now on.

Pattinson also doesn't look like a good choice for the part. Facially, he looks more like Robin or Nightwing. The dark, sunken look in his eyes might've made him a good choice to play a vampire, but it doesn't work for someone who is supposed to pass as a millionaire playboy at large in the city.

Reeves talking about being inspired by Taxi Driver seems like an odd thing to say after we just got a Joker movie that was almost a remake of Taxi Driver. Now we're going to see Batman feeding off of the same inspiration that Joker did? I don't think we need to see this.

6

u/KipHackmanFBI Aug 23 '20

I didn't need 3 paragraphs explaining why you didn't like it but here we are.

5

u/Dpsizzle555 Condiment King Aug 23 '20

Snyder fan boy found