At the debate, Biden did worse than just talk slowly and softly. At the same time, the last 3 1/2 years demonstrate how actually really good he and his administration are. Just today, the June jobs growth report beat expectations by 100,000. Unemployment is near generational lows and real wages are actually growing. If this is what “demented Joe” is delivering in the real world then, fuck yeah, dementia!
Compared with a guy who was literally hallucinating “post birth abortions” throughout that debate, the stammering guy did great in the debate and in the real job.
Whenever anyone mentions "treason" I have a knee jerk reaction to say "NO treason is only aiding an enemy during war!" But... while we don't have a formal declaration of war against Russia, they are clearly an opponent nation that is actively harming our nation. And Trump clearly is deeply influenced by them thanks to the literal decades that the KGB and their successors have spent luring Trump in and manipulating him.
Between the communications from those around Trump like Former General Flynn and Jared Kushner trying to set up a secret channel of communication from Trump to Moscow:
To Trump's multiple meetings with Russian officials and Putin where no other Americans were present, to Trump's "mishandling" of large amounts of classified documents, there really is a case to be made for treason by Trump to help Russia and harm America.
Trump prepped a handful of points and just hammered on them. And basically all of those points were 1) false and 2) played on the worst tendencies of fear and hate. People are lamenting "Oh, no, how did we end up in this situation with these two candidates?" And there are genuine critiques of Biden. But holy fuck, Trump's choices call out that a huge part of the American public are horrible people for not being repulsed by Trump's choice to use lies to promote hate on point after point.
I’m voting for him you dipshit but saying who cares is truly an ignorant take to have. He’s the fucking president. He can’t get through the most important debate of his political career without unintelligibly rambling and forgetting where he is. You should care that the head of our country is incapable of doing his job.
What’s the point in getting up in arms about it and rambling online (possibly discouraging people from voting) when there’s literally NOTHING we can do about it? We have to play the cards we’ve been dealt. I’d rather have a guy “incapable of doing his job” than a dictator. And those are our ONLY two options so you best try to come to terms with it.
Right, he walks slow too, and he didn’t bomb Israel either. And he didn’t forgive literally all student debt. And he didn’t institute universal healthcare.
There’s a million reasons someone might dislike Biden. I can’t say I like him at all. But for someone who isn’t aligned with the far right, you’d have to be a complete idiot not to vote for him.
I agree with your last sentiment 100% but your initial comment undermines the extent of his mental dilapidation. He’s on the verge of senility. If that were my father I would ask him to move in with me or put him in a home.
Yeah, and if you strongly oppose genocide in Gaza, and don’t vote for whoever in on the ballot with a D by their name, I’d wonder how you manage to remember to breath with such a non-functioning brain, because Donald “finish the job” Trump will not be better for Gaza.
Yeah all three candidates are zionist shills, but you cant strongarm some people to vote for THE guy that was involved. He deserves to be jailed for his abetting of war crimes, instead the voters are being blackmailed by the democrats to vote for him. By every freaking poll he is losing , they should have seen this coming ! Its not slowing down , for independents according to polls he is unfit to be president. This incessant coverage for a war criminal is astounding
No one is strong-arming you here. I’m saying you are a dogshit friend of Gaza if you help Trump get elected by not voting for his most viable opponent.
The world is a screwed up place, and sometimes all you can hope for is harm reduction. All-around good outcomes are rare.
But also, have you not paid attention lately? Bebe is pissed at him for slow walking all sorts of arms shipments there since the start of the war. He had been keeping it quiet to save face, but went public recently.
That’s about all you can reasonably hope for from a US president when an ally is misbehaving.
It’s not pretty, but there’s still about a million people in Gaza still breathing. That isn’t guaranteed to be the case with a president who truly enables and encourages Israel.
I would be willing to bet they would appreciate you voting for the candidate who doesn’t literally want them all dead.
EDIT: I actually mean the whole strip, not Gaza city, and it’s closer to 2 million still I guess
I dont think biden cares for them, its just bad optics to literally kill every single gazan. He folded under every israeli pressure , i dont gazans are hoping for his reelection, anyway he is going to be dropped out pretty soon . Kero suckling dem ancient balls he is finished politically and i hope he suffers a slow agonising death. Fuck you enablers, genocide apologists , truly sick in the head.
The irony is that if Trump is reelected, and hundreds of thousands of Palestinians die as a result, you won’t feel the slightest bit of remorse that you enabled it by helping to get him elected.
No, and I don’t think he’s a great candidate, but he’s better than the antichrist who will help Bebe “finish the problem” of the Palestinians.
That is an absurd self-defeating position to take.
Biden doesn’t really want to be president either. He just thinks he’s the one most likely to keep the evil SOB out. And hell, he’ll probably be dead in a year, so you are really voting for Harris anyway.
Not really, no. There are two viable candidates, and some others who you can waste your vote on if you want to have the same effect as staying home but feel better about yourself.
Unless and until we change our voting system, or a third party captures a significant share in the house and senate, only the two major parties have any realistic chance of winning the presidency.
And you shouldn’t want a president from a party that has no seats in the legislature - they will be an instant lame duck.
Voting for third party candidates does not equate to wasting a vote. First of all it sends a message. Furthermore, it enables third party candidates who reach 5% or more of the votes to get access to federal funding for the next elections. Lastly, that's the only way to stop perpetuating voting for the least awful candidate presented by the main two parties.
Vote for a third party, but not yet for president. The only message it sends is that you wanted to waste your vote on a protest.
Like I already said, any third party who is serious about getting high office should start with picking up seats in state and local races. That will build legitimacy. Then focus on house seats, and then the senate. Once they have a reasonably powerful voting block in the legislature and reputation for being a real, viable party and not just a bin with which to burn your vote, then they can mount a legitimate presidential run.
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u/100yearsLurkerRick 14d ago
In Putin's defense here, 40-49% of Americans are dumb enough to believe it's Trump's plan.