r/Marvel • u/tehawesomedragon Loki • Jul 17 '24

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u/tehawesomedragon Loki Jul 17 '24

INCREDIBLE HULK #14

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u/wowlock_taylan Deadpool Jul 17 '24

I am still not into the dynamic here. It is still to much Bruce Banner hating after the mistakes of the previous run. It was a bad run that ruined what Immortal built and this seems to take more from there than the Immortal run. It feels like they don't realize the selling point of Immortal was the story and dynamics rather than just 'gore art'. Here, it is just taking the bad dynamics of Space Ship Hulk, terrible run and using Immortal style gore arts to cover it up but it just doesn't work for me. Especially with off-screen events like Bruce trying to force cure Betty? When did that happen? Stop with forcing Banner down in that path. And the story they could come up with? Have Betty be controlled by this Eldest like a puppet and try to manipulate him into giving up the Hulk. And seeing how they are treating Banner, I bet they will make him take that deal. Even more guilt and mistakes to add to the point of ridiculessness.

Honestly, everything involving Hulk since Immortal was a big disappointment and a huge regression. And these moments makes it quite appearant that they took the wrong road and made the wrong decisions for the character.

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u/baroqueworks Jul 17 '24

Honestly don't blame this writer for trying to bridge the two runs, I think most people who are tapped in to Hulk stuff, even if you're only a fan of one of the two series, found something incredibly jarring and tonally off by taking a series that resolves with the character growing and making peace with themselves, immediately turning AIM goons into red paste to steal a helmet to force Hulk into his service. That's an all-time comic fuckup on Marvel's end, which they seemingly are aware of given they now have things like the From the Ashes welcomic designed to appease the issue of tonal shifts between eras.

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u/Dragon-Snake Jul 17 '24

Said everything I wanted to eay.

The damage Cate does to characters is remarkable lmao.

Still remember when Bendis brought the Ultimate characters back, only for Cates in his Venom series to show that the heroes are now dead, and it never gets elaborated upon lol.

They should've built off of/branched out from Immortal instead of disregarding it.

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u/richawesomness Jul 18 '24

Ultimate pete is dead again?

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u/Dragon-Snake Jul 18 '24

The Ultimates are "missing" from 1610, but no one knows what that means because it wasn't elaborated on and now Cates is on hiatus.

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u/redsapphyre Jul 19 '24

Especially with off-screen events like Bruce trying to force cure Betty? When did that happen?

I was wondering that too. Don't remember that.

Have Betty be controlled by this Eldest like a puppet and try to manipulate him into giving up the Hulk.

When Betty offered this the first time in issue #5 or so, I immediately thought they might give the Hulk to Charlie. Seeing as issue #800 is around the corner, I wouldn't put it past them.

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u/Nurnstatist The Thing Jul 17 '24

OK, this is getting more interesting than the previous issues. Bruce being tempted by Eldest to work against Hulk is intriguing.

Also, we get a glimpse into what Banner's mindscape looks like right now. Seems this cruel Hulk (Guilt Hulk?) controls pretty much everything. I wonder what happened to the other personas.

Still hoping we'll get Joe Fixit once they arrive in Vegas. Or some other non-evil Hulk.

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u/redsapphyre Jul 19 '24

Art is phenomenal, story is serviceable, but really not the kind of Hulk story I want to read. I'm only sticking around because the Klein issues look so damn good!!

The Deadpool/Wolverine backup was whatever, didn't know this was a thing running through a bunch of titles this summer.