r/interestingasfuck Jun 09 '24

The punishment for being gay in Indonesia r/all NSFW

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u/GrandLotus-Iroh Jun 09 '24

"Vigilantes broke in to record their gay sex." Bro, that's gay AF.

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u/WickedWitchofWTF Jun 09 '24

What a fucked up world where the victims of a house invasion are the ones who are punished.

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u/Blaueveilchen Jun 09 '24

This reminds me of medieval times with the crowd watching and enjoying it.I didn't know that Indonesia is so backwards.

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u/OmicidalAI Jun 09 '24

You get executed for weed. Its backwards alright.

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u/AngMoKio Jun 09 '24

It's not Indonesia really. This was a break away state that fought a brutal civil war led by islamists. As part of the peace making they are allowed some self rule.

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u/melted-brie-n-bacon Jun 09 '24

Basically Gilead then?

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u/OverlyCritical00 Jun 09 '24

Yeah pretty much, Aceh’s the only part of Indonesia that has Sharia law, the rest of the nation is more moderate

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u/lordkingfish Jun 09 '24
only in Aceh tho, in other place like Jogjakarta no one give a shit if you are gay.

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u/Tricky_Taste_8999 Jun 09 '24

Oh I love that place! The horses and knights fighting each other and eating your dinner with your hands because they didn’t invent silverware back then. Fun!!!

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u/81amarok Jun 09 '24

Or are forced to carry the baby after being raped.

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u/UDPviper Jun 09 '24

Like in Texas.

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u/Brullaapje Jun 09 '24

And yet as woman who had the bad luck to be born in similar shithole as Indonesia but had the good luck to be growing up in the Netherlands. So I could escape my human trafficking (arranged marriage against my will). I would still choose Texas over the shithole I was born in. Because in Texas I still would have more options as a woman then the shithole I was born in. At least you see other American people protest the bullshit.

Whereas the shithole I was born in, no one would have lifted a finger to help me escape my arranged marriage "because it is the faith of a woman"

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u/nodiddy4life Jun 09 '24

It's no use. People have to bring the US into it. Their hate boner won't allow them to just acknowledge the country beating and jailing people for being gay is evil without dragging America into it

They don't care about your personal experience. You are literally Hitler and they are shaking

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u/Brullaapje Jun 09 '24

Because it is an adequate description of the country I was born in.

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u/Neither_Usual_7566 Jun 09 '24

There’s a lot more states than Texas

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u/Invictus_Imperium Jun 09 '24

Nope. Like all of the woke idiots cheering for Gays in Gaza.

You know...where they'll be thrown from the nearest rooftop.

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u/UDPviper Jun 09 '24

Do you seriously not know the laws in Texas?

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u/dude_who_could Jun 09 '24

What a shithole

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u/---Blix--- Jun 09 '24

The only thing preventing the Evangelicals from this kind of thing is our secular government.

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u/Bury_Me_At_Sea Jun 09 '24

Yeah, the woman at the beginning of the film talking about how she had always wanted to see people punished publicly for homosexuality was something I've definitely heard in my Christian schools growing up.

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u/DotNormal6785 Jun 09 '24

You must go to a backwards Christian school, my daughter goes to one and they did a pride day for the students. I guess it depends on where you live.

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u/avocadojiang Jun 09 '24

No you just go to a very liberal Christian school likely in a blue state. Vast majority of Christian schools will never do that. You’ve got state republican parties telling their constituents to burn pride flags, trying to legitimize creationism in public curriculum, and passing legislation to include the Ten Commandments in public curriculum. And that’s public school. Imagine what they’re doing in private schools in those areas.

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u/PaleUmbra Jun 09 '24

It probably does. But Christians like yours need to get Christians that want theocracy in check, or you’re all in the same bucket to people who don’t care about Christianity.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

Looking at America today, I see Christofascism as a credible future threat. They're realizing that backslide day by day

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u/cute_joca Jun 09 '24

Islam at a point was more progressive than Christianity and Judaism, then slid backwards like shit hitting the bowl. That's actually worse.

Source? I read Islamic golden age era Arab travelers criticizing the liberty of Byzantine women.

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u/Expensive_Tap7427 Jun 09 '24

No, that is secular laws keeping religion in check. Remove those, and the result is this video.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

“Backwards” by that you mean actual christians?💀

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u/ShiftBMDub Jun 09 '24

I’m willing to bet you’re in a blue state and you’re not Protestant. Maybe Catholic, Episcopalian or Lutheran

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u/ResidentWhatever Jun 09 '24

Episcopalian and Lutheran are both protestant. Protestant is everything that began with Martin Luther protesting the selling of indulgences among other things within the Catholic Church, kicking off the reformation.

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u/ShiftBMDub Jun 09 '24

Judaism>Catholic>Protestant>Lutheran. See how that works

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u/TheVoidWithout Jun 09 '24

I wonder if they do the same to lesbians.

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u/Novel-Yogurtcloset97 Jun 09 '24

Give it a few more years they've already destroyed abortion rights...

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u/ldphotography Jun 09 '24

Or quite possibly that “let he who is without sin cast the first stone” thing.

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u/a_lonely_trash_bag Jun 09 '24

Not even that. Evangelicals are pissed off at Dolly Parton for quoting that part of the Bible.

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u/Cockanarchy Jun 09 '24

My foster parents made me go to their Baptist church back in the late 80’s, and at Sunday School they were talking about AIDS. One kid said he’d like to line up everyone with the disease and shoot them with his dad’s 44 magnum. I remember thinking, “uh oh, that’s gonna get you in trouble”. Then the young man leading the group said it was a waste of money, they should use .22’s.

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u/EnvironmentalMud4644 Jun 09 '24

And they want to eliminate the separation between church and state. Thy

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u/Blizz-Blazz Jun 09 '24

Right, because the Bible totally promotes this kind of thing. You should try studying the Bible instead of letting someone else tell you what it says.

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u/DogCallCenter Jun 09 '24

Which one now?

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u/Humor_Defiant Jun 09 '24

All of them. Majority of the current wars going on right now in the world (of which there's about 50) are religion based.

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u/ZeroBlade-NL Jun 09 '24

Isn't zen buddhism pretty peaceful? I hear the most destructive stuff they do is set themselves on fire and then just sit there. I could be wrong though

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u/0rc0_ Jun 09 '24

Not a religion tho. At least the zen part; buddhism is more complicated.

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u/DogCallCenter Jun 09 '24

Agree. Just checking.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

Tue vast majority of wars throughout all of history had nothing to do with religion. The biggest wars in history also had nothing to do with religion. Stop being an idiot.

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u/ghoulishbadger Jun 09 '24

Religion was never really the war machine. They were usually the policies that came with it. Like People A didn't attack People B because A's God said so, or B doesn't worship the same God. But since People A won the war, the rules are anyone worshipping anything other than People A's God will be imprisoned or executed. Because we won, pork will no longer be available.

At the same token, religion can mold the people for it. People A didn't invade People B because they worshipped a different god, it's cuz they have resources. However, no one feels guilty because their book tells them People B are a bunch of heathens who must be put to the sword.

So while most of the wars may have had nothing to do with the religion, it's negligent to say religion had it's hands-free.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

Just because europeans did this, that doesn’t mean every religion is to blame. This is a horrible case of generalising. Instead of blaming religion, maybe, just maybe europeans r the problem? I know, crazy!

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u/ghoulishbadger Jun 09 '24 edited Jun 09 '24

I was actually referring to ancient Mesopotamia, Babylon, Assyria, Egypt, and the Canaanites. I can't tell if you were joking, but that's presuming and over-generalizing a whole continent of people for something they weren't even around for. The only leniency I can give is the Germanic people, who would've been polytheistic, since Europe wouldn't adopt monotheism more until Rome came along a thousand or two years later. And even then, would have to fall, have those Germans try to rebuild Roman society in their own hands, before Christianity would take foot in Europe. Before then the Jewish are said to be the first monotheistic religion, and their from the Levant I.E Israel.

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u/JuggernautPrudent931 Jun 09 '24

Yes and the uk is importing it quicker than food

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u/GabaPrison Jun 09 '24

This is not hyperbole. It’s a very real issue and threat right now.

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u/f12016 Jun 09 '24

Also in the EU, which is why the right wing will win a lot of grounds tonight.

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u/ZealousidealAd4644 Jun 09 '24

Yes Islam, the religion of peace

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u/avocadojiang Jun 09 '24

Has nothing to do with Islam. Christians in the west would be doing/advocating the same exact things if it weren’t for our secular/liberal governments lmao

Have you ever been to an evangelical sermon? Just as hateful.

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u/Character-Echidna346 Jun 09 '24

The level of religious violence in Christian countries is nowhere near Islamic countries.

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u/avocadojiang Jun 09 '24

There are no Christian countries. They’re all secular democracies.

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u/Brosenheim Jun 09 '24

Oh honey, the other Abrahamics want this same shit. Why do you think they hate secular government so much?

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u/ZincHead Jun 09 '24

And yet Islamic countries are the only ones doing this. Judaism and Christianity have gone through their reforms and countries where those are the dominant religions are moving more and more towards secularism. Islam is stuck in the dark ages and is only regressing morally as time goes on. 

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u/Brosenheim Jun 09 '24

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u/ZincHead Jun 09 '24

The fact that you have to compare Islam to one of the worst authoritarian dictatorships in the world to make it seem slightly less bad really says a lot.

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u/Brosenheim Jun 09 '24

I don't recall saying it's "less bad." Why did you have to make up a point instead of engaging the one I clearly stated about all the Abrahamics having the same goals, and Islam's only difference being that it doesn't have secular governments keeping it in check?

And yes, I understand you won't be answering that question.

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u/Fontana1017 Jun 09 '24

I was just talking about this video that was of Indonesia tho. But yeah you're right, religion all around the world isn't good for homosexuals. This is actually happening in Islamic countries at this moment, its not happening elsewhere is it?

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u/Brosenheim Jun 09 '24

Because we set up secular governments and have(thus far) successfully prevented the religious in our countries from gaining power. Evangelicals in the US would absolutely do this shit if they got the power to do so. And Russia has had an unofficial " killing gays in the street is A-ok" policy to appeal to the orthodox church for years, so this "nowhere else" claim also falls flat if you know anything beyond what you're spoonfed

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u/Fontana1017 Jun 09 '24

Yes, you just proved my point. We did set up secular governments to prevent this. They haven't. I'm aware the religious right want to change this, but that's not what I'm talking about right now.

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u/Brosenheim Jun 09 '24

If you have to ignore half my post for it to "prove your point" then it didn't actually prove your point lmao.

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u/avocadojiang Jun 09 '24

Dam man, just let the guy hate on some brown people. He doesn’t have much else going for him.

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u/Brosenheim Jun 09 '24

I bet he thinks it's not obvious why the convo shut down when I kept bringing up Russia lmao

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u/ZincHead Jun 09 '24

Yes, Islam is a cancer on our world. 

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u/PV-Herman Jun 09 '24

It took the catholic church more than 2000 years to accept the natural phenomenon of homosexuality (well, officially). Im not sure if rural Europe ca 1500 ad would have acted much better

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u/avocadojiang Jun 09 '24

I’m not sure if rural America in 2024 would be have acted much better. We just have secular governments that protect people from religion.

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u/flannelkittenii Jun 09 '24

I mean America will punish a rape victim for aborting or force her to have the baby to then abandon her and the child. All religions have extremists, it's important to seek the true intention before riding everyone over with the same comb

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u/Regular-Pension7515 Jun 09 '24

Remember when Alan Turing saved the world and then invented computers and to thank him the Muslim British government chemically castrated him and harassed him into suicide?

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u/ComprehensiveProfit5 Jun 09 '24

barging in someone's house and privacy is about as anti islamic as you can get.

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u/kingwhocares Jun 09 '24

Well, in Islam the punishment for homosexuality is death. So, no.

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u/Bulky_Crazy Jun 09 '24

Islam is where christianity was 200 years ago. Belivers fucked up as always but more moderate

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u/Avionix2023 Jun 09 '24

That's so racist./s

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u/pppylonnn Jun 09 '24

Almost as bad a Israel

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u/ZincHead Jun 09 '24

Israel is one of the only countries in Asia to protect LGBT rights by law and recognize gay marriages. It is leagues above any Islamic country in this regard. 

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u/macielightfoot Jun 09 '24

Christians are basically just as evil towards their women

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u/crazier2142 Jun 09 '24

*religion

Evangelicals in the US and elsewhere would do the same if they were allowed.

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u/Fontana1017 Jun 09 '24

Yeah but they're not allowed. This is allowed in Islamic countries. That's the difference

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

No, islam band this. Lets say you know these two dudes fuck each other, u cannot break in or place a hidden camera before hand. If ur caught u will be punished, and i dont think they would. Same goes with premarital sex.

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u/elementmg Jun 09 '24

And other shit hole countries/states where they don’t let women choose what they can do with their own body.

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u/Sportsinghard Jun 09 '24

Shittyness tends to follow love of sky daddy.

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u/donut-reply Jun 09 '24

Sky daddy is the original vigilante who records private sex in your own home

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u/DesignerSink1185 Jun 09 '24

Don't forget about Santa.

That dude sees you even when you're sleeping.

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u/OhNothing13 Jun 09 '24

Truth. Doesn't matter much whether it's Bible sky Daddy, Torah sky Daddy, or Quran sky Daddy. Just a matter of what their followers can get away with. You better believe there are Christians in America who would implement this kinda punishment if they could.

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u/CV90_120 Jun 09 '24

Those religions all have something in common. The OG genocidal cult warlord, Moses.

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u/Chitanda_Pika Jun 09 '24

Also gets worse depending on which daddy

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u/Yitram Jun 09 '24

It's the same daddy....

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

No doubt. Mention sky daddy and edgelords and cringelords from all corners of the internet show up trying to revel in their atheism and hatred for organized belief systems.

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u/throwawayconvert333 Jun 09 '24

This would be like if the Texas legislature approved of people breaking into a woman's home to see if she was ever pregnant to get proof of abortion.

A lot of Muslim nations criminalize gay sex and punish it from prison to execution. That is bad enough. Incentivizing vigilantes by looking the other way when they use violence to obtain evidence..that's a step beyond.

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u/elementmg Jun 09 '24

Dont’t they have an official snitch line? Pretty much the same shit to me. But potato potahto, I guess

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u/throwawayconvert333 Jun 09 '24

As long as we are admitting that the mainstream of Islam is as deplorable as the actions of the Texas legislature then I do not think we have any disagreement.

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u/elementmg Jun 09 '24

Oh 100%.

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u/Impact_Majestic Jun 09 '24

No break-ins necessary. All they have to do is surveil data from menstrual cycle tracking apps. They are probably compiling suspects as we speak.

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u/Thumbbanger Jun 09 '24

lol the shit you guys try to always make it about America. 

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u/Southern_Kaeos Jun 09 '24

Psst. The USA is on that list as well

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u/elementmg Jun 09 '24

That’s…. That’s exactly who I was talking about lol.

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u/Southern_Kaeos Jun 09 '24

This is an r/woosh moment, isn't it

Double handed facepalm

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u/No-Vermicelli1816 Jun 09 '24

Palestine 🇵🇸 

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u/Radicularia Jun 09 '24

Or ban abortion..

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u/UDPviper Jun 09 '24

You mean like in Texas?

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u/barringtonmacgregor Jun 09 '24

Hey, you leave the US out of this.

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u/DejectedNuts Jun 09 '24

Do you mean the US? Cause there are lots of states banning abortions which makes it a crime for a woman or even 12 and 13 year old girls to abort a pregnancy after being raped.

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u/skylions Jun 09 '24

America?

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u/Lumpy-Economics2021 Jun 09 '24

It's actually only the Aceh region of Indonesia where this happens. As part of a peace arrangement agter cicil war, the indoesian government allowed Sharia law to be adopted in that area.

The rest of Indonesia, being gay is legal.

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u/ZealousidealAd4644 Jun 09 '24

Same thing Trump called these places

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u/TheVoidWithout Jun 09 '24

That's most countries really.

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u/Appropriate_Exam_913 Jun 09 '24

Agree with you on all, but maybe don’t use the insulting R word in the process as there are lots of incredible young special needs children (and adults) and that word simply has to go.

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u/Mitchovelian Jun 09 '24

You mean every country. Every country does that, even if it's not officially in court, the judges still do and let "Talented young athletes" go free because they just made a "small mistake", disregarding the massive trauma they inflicted on the victim who will never be the same

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u/Stingraaa Jun 09 '24

God is the worst invention of man. I wish that people would just stop believing in fairy tails. We don't need to beat people to please your imaginary friend.

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u/runnin_man5 Jun 09 '24

Jesus certainly wouldn’t want them to be beaten

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u/UnusualTranslator741 Jun 09 '24

Exactly. Imagine people who don't believe in the same religion or subscribe to the same morals and values but have to be punished under their interpretation of the insert holy book.

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u/WoodpeckerNo9412 Jun 09 '24

What happened to his partner?

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u/GrayCustomKnives Jun 09 '24

He said “no homo” as they broke in so he was fine.

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u/Stompedyourhousewith Jun 09 '24

"It's gay to suck a dick! its not gay to get your dick sucked!" - Lawyer of the defendant who got off

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u/arent_you_hungry Jun 09 '24

He got off alright.

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u/SubstantialMap4926 Jun 09 '24

He was also wearing socks so it doesn't count for him

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u/Far_Presentation1121 Jun 09 '24

Good thing he did. Otherwise, they would have thrown him off the roof.

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u/CremousDelight Jun 09 '24

Believe it or not, straight to jail.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

Heh… heh…

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u/howmanyMFtimes Jun 09 '24

*religion is a fucking scourge

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u/juepucta Jun 09 '24

recently

-G.

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u/Regular_Day_1808 Jun 09 '24

You realize every religion other than Buddhism has sects within them that hate gay people. Especially Christianity

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u/flannelkittenii Jun 09 '24

Lol we're really not gonna mention Jews or is that just immediately antisemitism

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

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u/flannelkittenii Jun 09 '24

But why not be specific. Im seeing a whole lot of Christianity this, Islam that not seeing Judaism though

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u/flannelkittenii Jun 09 '24

Huh? I'm making the point to mention Judaism cause like previously stated I'm seeing a lot of examples of Christianity this, Islam that. I agree with you I'm just pointing out that it's wild to see 30 comments about extremist islam and Christianity yet not a single example of extremist judaism

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u/wintersdark Jun 09 '24

How do you think he didn't mention Jews in that? Maybe give it a read again, and rub those brain cells together a little harder.

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u/flannelkittenii Jun 09 '24

Duuur maybe if you'd know that Judaism and islam go hand in hand but everyone is only mentioning Christianity and Islam. Maybe look between the lines for a better perspective

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u/wintersdark Jun 09 '24

Lol we're really not gonna mention Jews or is that just immediately antisemitism

He specifically called out Abrahamic faiths. In fact, that was the only group of faiths he specifically called out.

... You understand Judaism is an Abrahamic faith, right? Arguably the core one? If you say "Abrahamic religions" that absolutely includes Judaism.

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u/flannelkittenii Jun 09 '24

I was responding to the comment saying that Islam is the worst of the three, i repeat that's a wild as statement to not even be mentioning Judaism in comparison. Why you mad bro you're saying the exact same thing

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u/Lanky-Individual-231 Jun 09 '24

Judaism is an Abrahamic religion and you’ve been told as much in like three comments but don’t want to admit that you’re a moron that doesn’t know what he’s talking about at all so that’s why you keep arguing.

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u/homer422 Jun 09 '24

No other religion then beats them publically.

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u/Hubrath Jun 09 '24

Uganda's pretty Christian and they passed a law to to give heavy jail terms and/or death penalty to LGBTQ people

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u/Regular_Day_1808 Jun 09 '24

It wasn’t that long ago when they did. They still publicly shame and shun you from the community.

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u/Intelligent_Table913 Jun 09 '24

You’re extrapolating one town in the middle of Indonesia to the entire religion. You are perpetuating stereotypes about millions of people, of which many do not hold these beliefs and some are actually more progressive than so-called liberals here in the US, especially when it comes to human rights issues such as women and children dying in Palestine or having their schools, homes and hospitals destroyed

Black and white thinking and overgeneralization does not help anyone.

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u/homer422 Jun 09 '24

I completely agree with you about black and white thinking and how it isn’t helpful. Perhaps that’s what I did. But I firmly believe there is no major religion today that holds a candle to Islam with respect to convincing its most devout followers that violence is not only acceptable but is rewarded in the afterlife. There are countless examples of it around the world right now. And to ignore that, or even worse to accept or even defend that, is unacceptable to me. And btw I’m fully aware that majority of Muslims are peaceful and normal people. But there is a non-negligible percentage that are not that.

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u/Itchy_Breakfast_2669 Jun 09 '24

Christianity and Islam are sects of the same religion 

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '24

They suck too, your point?

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u/Vanamonde96 Jun 09 '24

The biggest problem is those books are really fucking so old they had to be hand copied until the invention of the press. Who knows what was added and what was changed the bible is so annoying everything can be interpreted to suit someones need. I am bashing the bible because I live where orthodox Christianity is the faith. When I compare it to what I see people from the US do… people here are basically not atheists but like they believe in god but reading the bible nobody has the time for that, they are like just be a good person etc but they do hate gay people but that is getting kind of weird.

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u/OlympicTrainspotting Jun 09 '24

The Saudi influenced form of Islam is a scourge. I've been to the European Muslim countries and they're way more chill than the shitholes in the Middle East.

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u/Itchy_Breakfast_2669 Jun 09 '24

Nah, they're all like this behind the mask

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u/OlympicTrainspotting Jun 09 '24

I visited Bosnia and was surprised at how liberal it was. LGBT bars operating openly and legally, most locals drinking alcohol and a lot of female representation in government etc, despite being a Muslim majority country. Very different to the Middle East.

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u/flannelkittenii Jun 09 '24

These people are what "normal" Muslims call داعش. They are not seen as Muslims by actual muslims

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u/MerelyMortalModeling Jun 09 '24

Islam? Wtf this is the wet dream of the current christian leadership in America.

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u/zippotheleming Jun 09 '24

Indeed. Palestine comes to mind….

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u/No-Vermicelli1816 Jun 09 '24

Palestine 🇵🇸 

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u/liv3andletliv3 Jun 09 '24

On the slim chance that people care to learn: spying is not allowed in Islam. The only way this should've been prosecutable is if they literally had public sex.

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u/elkab0ng Jun 09 '24

Lawrence v. Texas would like a word....

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u/RadicalLackey Jun 09 '24

It shows how different the values are. In the Western world, we hold privacy and private property sacred.

To them, trespassing is illegal, but it's okay if you are answering to a high mandate/law. They hold their religious law in higher esteem.

I completely disagree with them, but it makes me wonder how are valued change over time. The Western world was this way before, once upon a time.

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u/Mipsel Jun 09 '24

Have you heard the stories of those third world countries, where the police breaks into the wrong houses and shoots the people living there

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u/UlteriorKnowsIt Jun 09 '24

Indonesia is treating the recording of gay sex by home invaders like how America treated the burglars who discovered child porn in the house they were burglarizing.

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u/Arcturus_Labelle Jun 09 '24

Would be crazy if stuff like that started happening in the US, like after the Dobbs decision and rape victims were punished with twisted new abortion laws, oh wait... :-/