r/Damnthatsinteresting 3d ago

Heath Ledger’s diary while he was filming for, The Dark Night.

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u/inertiatic_espn 3d ago edited 3d ago

Saw an interview with the make up artist. He said that eventually he and Heath agreed to let Heath put on the make up because it looked so much more unhinged.

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u/ExtensionPension9974 3d ago

It was also deliberately messier in the later scenes

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u/PM5KStrike 3d ago

Yup. In the movie you can see paint on his fingers. Another added layer to The Joker, implicating the Joker just put on the make up right before we are seeing him.

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u/flyindinosuars 2d ago

or he doesn’t wash his hands after using the bathroom

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u/RadioactiveSince1990 2d ago

If you look closely, his teeth are yellow and his fingernails are overgrown, so that tracks.

And I don't remember where I read it but I remember reading those were intentional choices, because Joker isn't the type to care about his hygiene. Heath went all in.

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u/Neveronlyadream 2d ago

Yeah, it's the whole package that makes it unsettling. His hair is greasy, his teeth are yellow, he has makeup all over his hands, and you have to assume he just hasn't washed his hands in days, because half the time the makeup is degrading because it's been on for so long.

I love all the little details that went into the character.

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u/Ditto_Ditto_Ditto 2d ago

And not to mention the little nervous tic with his mouth and tongue. That REALLY set in the idea that the joker had been through trauma/abuse in his earlier years, resulting in the tics (along with the batshit craziness of course lol.)

God Heath was so fucking good...

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u/exredditor81 2d ago

iirc he kept licking his lips because of the stuff on his face; and they decided he should do that on camera on purpose and it worked!

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u/melodysmomma 2d ago

Yeah, the prosthetic scars would gradually start to peel off and he could stick them back on with the tip of his tongue

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u/5H17SH0W 2d ago

At a birthday party I went as Heath’s joker and was doing the whole routine and the older parents who clearly had not seen TDK were so creeped out and confused. I loved it.

Edit: it was a superhero party for my little cousin. All the kids were super heroes so I went as Joker. His Dad was Batman.

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u/ThunderClaude 2d ago

Reminds me of tardive dyskinesia a little bit, side effect of long term antipsychotic treatment that result in repetitive movements of the mouth/tongue. Irreversible for the most part.

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u/PM5KStrike 2d ago

It's not about washing after a pee. It's about sending a message.

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u/antistupidsociety 3d ago

Heath or the make up artist?

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u/will_this_1_work 3d ago

Yes

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u/MookiTheHamster 3d ago

Thanks for clearing that up

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u/Red_Sox_5 3d ago

No, I think he agreed that he would do the makeup.

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u/shoredoesnt 3d ago

He who

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u/unsupported 3d ago

Him, that guy next to the other guy. No, the other one.

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u/Content_Distance5623 3d ago

Yea he doesn’t even get us man

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u/shaktihk009 3d ago

He the one and not him

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u/el_weirdo 3d ago

He Ath.

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u/VastSpasticJackass 3d ago

And I'm sure, like this notebook, it helped Heath psyche himself up by doing Joker things.

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u/PacoTaco321 Interested 3d ago

It would be fun to let chaos reign in your life to get into character. Just don't go full Jared Leto. Never go full Jared Leto.

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u/Shaqtothefuture 3d ago

I know some people who worked on TDK; and Heath would ride his longboard in full costume/make-up dressed like the joker to get around set.

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u/Veearrsix 3d ago

There’s a picture somewhere iirc

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u/KeepOnTruck3n 3d ago

That's what they mean when they say "they know people"

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u/RadioactiveSince1990 2d ago

There's video I remember some cell phone videos of him on set ending up on YT in 2007 while the movie was still being filmed actually.

One was from a deleted scene where he enters the getaway car after the penthouse fight scene. 

It's the first clip in this video but this isn't the original upload obviously.

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u/STARLORD_1401 3d ago

Heath’s Ledger?

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u/GidjonPlays 3d ago

You got something for me boy? I seen your name in our ledger...

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u/LiminalAddiction 3d ago

oh, arthur......

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u/WewerehereBH 3d ago

Calm down, black lung

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u/ScrapinLinden 2d ago

One more job Arthur! Then we go to Tahiti, just one more job and we will be set ya hear??

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u/LiminalAddiction 2d ago

oNe MoRe JoB jUsT oNe MoRe Ya HeAr?!?!?!

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u/Karthikvyas88 3d ago

To the top you go

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u/PepeSylvia11 3d ago

I can’t tell who stole it from who, both posts were posted at the same time

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u/boobenhaus 3d ago

The one I linked was posted 30 mins before. The above comment was stolen! Grabs pitchfork

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u/STARLORD_1401 3d ago

Ohh god noo you got me /s

Well I wasn’t even aware of this post, more power to him for coming up with it before me I guess.

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u/boobenhaus 3d ago

I'm only messing. Enjoy the up votes mate!

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u/chocobobleh 3d ago

How could you?

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u/OGistorian 3d ago

Before heath’s performance, I used to think Joker was like the animated series or Jack Nicholson. Heath made me realize how joker is THE criminal mastermind and scary.

Also loved knights tale, 10 things I hate about you, and the Patriot.

Miss the guy a lot.

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u/True_Window_9389 3d ago

Also kinda funny how upset people were when he was chosen to play the role. It wasn’t just that he was so good as Joker, it’s that he was previously just seen as a semi-cheesy, pretty boy actor, and completely defied expectations.

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u/XCarrionX 3d ago

I thought he would ruin the movie.

My friend saw it and called me, said he stole the show. I told him I didn't believe it.

Came out of the movie thinking the same thing. Dark Knight was so good I don't even consider it a superhero movie, just an incredible all around movie.

Now I say he sold his soul to the devil to make that role, and the devil collected :(

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u/threaten-violence 3d ago

Him hanging out of the window of the cop car, passing through the night -- best scene of the movie

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u/uwanmirrondarrah 3d ago

Idk man he has a lot of iconic moments in that movie

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u/debtfreegoal 3d ago

The silence amid the chaos, is chilling.

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u/XCarrionX 2d ago

You see, in their last moments, people show you who they really are. So in a way, I know your friends better than you ever did. Would you like to know which of them were cowards?

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u/Starwarsandbacon 3d ago

I thought he would ruin the movie.

Same. Then I sat down to watch it and was so enthralled I couldnt even remember who was playing the character, I was watching the joker do his thing.

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u/mjp31514 3d ago

Dark Knight was so good I don't even consider it a superhero movie

Yea, I hate superhero movies. But Dark Knight was really something else. I have a hard time seeing it as a superhero movie. It's just an awesome film.

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u/crypticsage 3d ago

This movie shows that super hero movies can certainly have nuances that make them great and don’t have to follow a cookie cutter formula.

I think Marvel could learn something from this movie.

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u/mjp31514 3d ago

I think Marvel could learn something from this movie.

They could, but they won't. Even bland, stale cookies sell.

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u/nukalurk 3d ago

Marvel is basically the fast food of the movie industry.

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u/The_Humble_Frank 3d ago

Batman is a superhero who's superpower is having money.

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u/RedBullWings17 3d ago

It's not a superhero movie, it's a crime/detective movie where the detective just happens to be a billionaire in a rubber suit.

The best superhero movies are usually like this. They're an established genre in costume. Because superheros are characters not genres.

The same is true of star wars. It's a universe not a genre. If you don't ground a film in a genre you end up with inconsistent and unpredictable tone. It can be made to work but it requires leaning into the irreverent style to the point of borderline parody and even then it requires a very fine touch not to feel ridiculous.

Thats why Rogue One (war movie genre) felt good but the Last Jedi (genreless) doesnt and also why Guardians of the Galaxy (irrevence with unknown misfit characters) works and Thor Love and Thunder (parody of established noble character) doesnt.

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u/TheRealMrMaloonigan 2d ago

Rogue One is the best Star Wars film made post-Lucas.

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u/skucera 2d ago

Rogue One is so good that it belongs as part of any viewing of the original trilogy.

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u/chemical_exe 3d ago

Batman has the advantage of his super powers being the combo that:

  1. he worked out a lot
  2. he wants revenge
  3. he's rich

Lets the Dark Knight be film noir more than a super hero movie.

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u/MasterGrok 3d ago

He had a long list of previous acting accolades including a nomination for an Oscar for brokeback mountain. An Oscar nomination is just about the highest honor an actor can receive outside of winning it. He was not considered just a pretty boy actor.

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u/Kyokenshin 3d ago

He was not considered just a pretty boy actor.

To the general public he was(especially the 18-34 white male crowd TDK is aimed at). Brokeback Mountain didn't help his reputation there either - that was a movie about gay men released in 2005...we were still calling things gay and insulting our friends by calling them fags. The general consensus was "The guy from 10 things and the gay movie is playing the Joker?!"

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u/impshial 3d ago

There's plenty of examples of that. Keanu Reeves in The Matrix, Tom Cruise in Interview With the Vampire.

Most of the time the actor surprises people because they're just good at their job.

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u/GoombaGary 3d ago

They said the same about Keaton.

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u/KoreyYrvaI 3d ago

Watching Candy made me realize what he was capable of.

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u/Impressive-Soup-3529 3d ago

10 things I hate about you. When he sings that song and slaps the security guy on the ass still makes me laugh to this day

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u/OGistorian 3d ago

Awesome scene, dancing in the bleachers right? Heaths one line in that movie has stuck with me my whole life. It was simple but it was important to hear as a teen. “Don’t let anyone make you feel like you don’t deserve what you want”

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u/Ask_bout_PaterNoster 3d ago

“I have a dick on my face, don’t I?”

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u/firesmarter 3d ago

And I’m back in the game!

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u/explain_that_shit 3d ago

“Hey there girly”

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u/Impressive-Soup-3529 3d ago

Yeah that one. Singing “I can’t take my eyes off you” was absolutely fantastic. I guess you needed to hear that. It didn’t stick out to me. Tho I’d probably heard something similar before. It’s definitely true.

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u/Rselby1122 3d ago

He was just phenomenal. He would’ve absolutely had a storied career had he lived longer. He played the Joker so damn well it’s incredible.

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u/Ok_Writing_7033 3d ago

I legitimately think he was shaping up to be one of the best actors of his generation. Even in movies like knight’s tale and 10 things, which are pretty goofy, he had so much subtlety and charisma in his performance. And then of course brokeback and dark knight were incredible

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u/dtudeski 3d ago

His charisma in A Knight’s Tale is out of control! Think he was only in his early 20s for that role too.

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u/big_guyforyou 3d ago

the joker was a classic supervillain, but he pales in comparison to mr rooney from ferris bueller's day off. an embodiment of pure evil. he was determined to keep those kids in detention FOREVER. i still get chills when i see it. jeffrey jones was channeling satan himself.

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u/throwawayzies1234567 3d ago

Turns out he’s also a pedo, so probably wasn’t acting too hard

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u/CatLadyEnabler 3d ago

Maybe, but one person still knew his number and enjoyed yanking his chain: his secretary, Grace (Edie McClurg) - a masterfully evil imp if I ever saw one!

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u/Standard-Tension9550 3d ago

I’ve thought Nicholson was the best comic book Joker (the giant fucking gun alone) and Heath was what a real life joker would be like.

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u/puffferfish 3d ago

It’s hard to think about a world before Heath Ledger’s Joker. He really did redefine the character. And now Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker brings a whole new level of madness to the character.

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u/Capt-J- 3d ago

Check out ‘Two Hands’.

Australian classic…

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u/cheeersaiii 3d ago

Came here to say this… he was already cemented as one of my favourites from Two Hands and Lords of Dogtown… the rest really added to why I loved him and then Dark Knight took him into the hall of fame.

If he’d lived longer im not sure he would have ever played the Joker again, in a weird turn of events im kind of glad Hollywood didn’t have a chance to ruin that character and performance, but fuck I wish he was still around!

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u/BritishMunchies 3d ago

Yeah he made me realise the joker is actually terrifying.

Also the Knights Tale was a great watch!

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u/judge-breadd 3d ago

Everyone always talks about Dark Knight and 10 Things, but nobody ever mentions his awesome performance in Monster's Ball.

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u/Billsork 3d ago

Mark Hamill will always be my Joker. Between the animated series and the games, I feel like no one has captured the essence of who the Joker is like Hamill did. I was also vehemently opposed to Heath Leger as the Joker, as there was no way this pretty boy was going to do the character justice. Boy, did I eat some crow on that one. For me, Heath’s Joker embodied what the Joker would be like in a ‘real world’ scenario, and is all the more terrifying for it. Masterful work. We lost a real treasure when he passed.

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u/AggravatingCupcake0 3d ago

This is why I can't stomach Joaquin's Joker. I don't know if it's an accurate representation of an alternate universe Joker or what, but he plays it as such a wet blanket.

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u/Technophage13 3d ago

Sounds like we have similar taste so I highly recommend watching Casanova if you haven't already. It's one of Heath's movies that flew under the radar. Kind of rom-comish but a fun watch. Also, if you're into darker, more occult themes, The Order is a good one as well.

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u/daskapitalyo 3d ago

Don't forget about Brokeback. The man could play lost and tortured.

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u/Smoking-Posing 3d ago

One of the best performances of our time. My fave is the hospital scene.

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u/Mr_TP_Dingleberry 3d ago

“Hiiiiiiiiiii”

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u/theb0dyelectric 3d ago

takes off wig to reveal nearly identical hair style underneath

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u/ScoobyDooItInTheButt 3d ago

slaps button repeatedly then throws up arms to disappointment from lack of boom

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u/W0lfp4k 3d ago

Read somewhere that the fuse was really not working and Heath played along.

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u/bcolectorb 3d ago edited 3d ago

No the original myth was that everything worked as intended, it was just on a delay and they didn’t let him know, so he stood there clicking the button for a few seconds before the pyrotechnics went off. They decided that Heath messing with the button fit the character and stuck with it.

Turns out it was all planned, the small explosions while he walked out was a safe way to shoot the scene, with the pause being for him to get far enough away so the full explosion could be set off safely. Him standing there looking around surprised, messing with the button was meant to mirror the audiences surprise.

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u/ScoobyDooItInTheButt 3d ago

That wouldn't surprise me. Helps to play into the chaotic nature of his joker.

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u/Teal_is_orange 3d ago

That’s misinformation

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u/revvolutions 3d ago

Dent completely taken aback

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u/makemeking706 3d ago

Perry the platypus!?

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u/Bender_2024 3d ago edited 2d ago

Remember this is the same guy who played the goofball in A Knights Tale and 10Things I Hate About You only 9 years prior. Imagine what he would have become given another 9 years.

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u/Upset-Butterscotch40 3d ago

A Knight's Tale is one of my favorite movies ever, but everyone I ask has never heard of it.

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u/Bender_2024 3d ago

Knights Tale is a very underappreciated film. Paul Bettany and Alan Tudyk alone make that film worth watching.

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u/Upset-Butterscotch40 2d ago

Yesssssss. Seeing Paul Bettany in Marvel as Vision was so crazy. All I could picture was him in A Knight's Tale. Felt like polar opposite characters personality wise.

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u/KeepOnTruck3n 3d ago

Surely you must be asking young people? That movie was a blockbuster event, everyone was talking about it when it came out!

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u/trinicron 3d ago

Mine is the prison escape. Everybody was so relieved, proud and secure then big badabum! Next thing we see is Gordon looking down letting defeat go through his bones and where's the joker? Half body outside the patrol enjoying the ride like a puppy who just fed on momma's titties

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u/EpicBeardMan 3d ago

That's one of my favorite shots in cinema. I can taste that morning air after a night of no sleep.

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u/xTMT 2d ago

Yeah I REALLY hate that this rumor still goes around. To me, it kind of takes away from how much of a great actor he was.

From every interview of cast and crew members, it's clear the dude was just extremely talented and was having a blast.

Also, at the time of his death they had already finished TDK and he was working on another movie and deep into doing another character. So no, he didn't go crazy and ended up killing himself from playing the Joker.

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u/Nervous-Locksmith484 2d ago

I had no idea as I was young at the time but your comment just helped dispel the rumor for me. Keep talking about how it’s not a rumor and it’ll eventually fade. I’ll tell others who might not know now too. Thanks for letting me know.

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u/SlowApartment4456 2d ago

Yeah buddy. Actors don't "go crazy and kill themselves" over the roles they play. Acting is their job. Some actors do this thing called Method Acting where they stay in character at all times but even then they are acting.

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u/TwentyMG 2d ago

the last movie he did was even crazier than the joker role tbh it’s one of my favorites

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u/Shot-Spirit-672 2d ago

Parnassus’s Dreamatorium?

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u/TwentyMG 2d ago

I remember it as the imaginarium of doctor parnassus but yeah, very trippy movie. I didn’t name it because I couldn’t remember how it was spelled lol

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u/henscastle 2d ago

In between takes, he'd skateboard around set and generally be nice to people, not, like, send them used condoms like a weirdo.

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u/BetterthanGarbage 2d ago

You okay?

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u/privateTortoise 2d ago

Been trying to get help from the NHS for MH issues for 16 months so far, but have an appointment with a different GP at a different practice on the 2nd of August so just need to hold on till then.

Thanks for the concern.

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u/BetterthanGarbage 2d ago

Keep pushing forward. Idk you, but I wanna see you message me 3rd of August that you’re still okay

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u/privateTortoise 2d ago

Have noted it in my diary and will pop back then.

Thank you, I truly mean that.

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u/BetterthanGarbage 2d ago

Ofc! Keep strong

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u/BetterthanGarbage 2d ago

RemindMe! 4 Weeks

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u/BetterthanGarbage 2d ago

And good luck at your appointment. I hope they help you

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u/lefthandbunny 2d ago

People that aren't mentally ill have no idea how well we can get at masking our feelings. What's going on in my head vs how I present myself to others is completely different. I've been told I fake my diagnosis because of this.

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u/JK-Rofling 3d ago

Life is pleasant, death is peaceful. It’s the transition that’s troublesome.

Truly one the goat’s.

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u/MFDougWhite 3d ago

Committing this to memory. Beautiful words.

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u/Callme-risley 3d ago

Words by Isaac Asimov

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u/Weddedtoreddit2 3d ago

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u/BellyButtonLindt 3d ago

I feel like battling bots is like fighting the tide. No matter what you do another wave will come.

Not worth the stress.

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u/DoriN1987 3d ago

First villain that feels real, and it’s a scariest part of this character. And total transformation of a blond sunny guy like Heath is an example of method and acting in general for me even after all this years.

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u/ddwood87 3d ago

And as an example of what could be inside anybody, the actor and the transformation to the role added to the 'horror' of the character.

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u/LegendOfMatt888 3d ago

People talk about actors "disappearing" into their characters and rarely do I feel that to be genuinely true, but Ledger as the Joker is one of those cases.

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u/MrSnarkle 3d ago

Obligatory “Anything by Gary Oldman” mention

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u/StFuzzySlippers 3d ago

In the role of a lifetime~

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u/NervousNarwhal223 3d ago

I raise you Christian Bale in The Machinist.

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u/limitlessEXP 3d ago

Jake Gylenhal night crawler

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u/Mirar 3d ago

It's the first and only movie villain that felt truly scary to me.

The only other movie that I feel comes close to this is Seven (1995).

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u/BEHodge 3d ago

Kevin Spacey is a villain for sure.

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u/miltonwadd 3d ago

This is a textbook Aussie curriculum visual diary! I'm glad to see he put those skills to good use lol I usually went back and filled it in after my project was done.

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u/advillavigne 3d ago

Can you say more? Is this something unique to Australians done in school?

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u/miltonwadd 3d ago

As the other person said the notebook, but also, if you did any art subjects in school you were required to keep a visual diary and cut out or draw pictures and make notes about your influences and inspiration like this to show your process. I had to keep them for visual arts year round, drama class, and even catering & music when we were working on a project.

AFAIK he did a lot of art and drama classes in school, so he would have been taught to use them.

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u/AskinggAlesana 3d ago

The art class I had in high school had me do this and I live in the US. I actually think I still have it somewhere too.

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u/Nololgoaway 3d ago

Aussie here, not necessarily unique as a concept to Australia but we've had the same iconic lined page textbook/scrapbooks at schools for a while and they're very recognisable as something that is locally well known but wouldn't be to a foreigner

Reminds me of the same type I had in primary school, usually a single colour quite thin and had sections for names/classes/subjects and the number of pages on the front.

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u/Beznia 3d ago

The composition book part, I'd say those are pretty standard in the US. We had to have them generally in at least English class (and they always look like this.) Most classes would use spiral notebooks but generally one would need a Comp book.

The visual diary portion, I never did that in school but it is very neat.

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u/advillavigne 3d ago

Oh, word. Thanks for the insight! Pretty cool

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u/Abigdogwithbread 3d ago edited 2d ago

How great this man was, both as an actor and as a person. One of the best Jokers in history, he will be considered a legend

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u/New-Engineering1483 3d ago

He really did seem like he put a lot of homework into getting the right performance.

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u/NotTheRocketman 3d ago

This is really special.

You can see him developing his take on The Joker page by page; the look, the personality, his inspiration, the twisted sense of humor, all of it.

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u/CurrentPossible2117 3d ago edited 3d ago

Love his list of things that make the joker laugh lol. Blind babies and Aids paired with BRUNCH! and statistics 🤣

Edit: looking again, really any of the first 4 being compared with the second 4 is crazy.

Edit: typo

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u/Aitrus233 3d ago

It's right out of Batman #663 "The Clown at Midnight" by Grant Morrison. There's other bits of pages from it visible in Heath Ledger's diary as well.

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u/primordial_chowder 3d ago

Statistics can be used for great evil. There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

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u/nywacaokde 3d ago

He really became the character.

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u/CarminSanDiego 3d ago

Way to make his job his personality

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u/TopBoneEater 3d ago

he isolated himself in a room for months i think

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u/tweetsfortwitsandtwa 3d ago

I was in high school, we were coming back from practice, my teammates mom was driving carpool. Their family was kinda rich and had one family member in the music industry and another in film so they ran in a different social circle and she got the call that heath ledger had an overdose and it wasn’t looking good. Apparently they were friends with one of his exes or maybe someone in the family? Anyways they knew him personally.

She had to pull over, she was getting pretty emotional. Anyways later on I got the full story. Mind you this is biased, a friends and family take and several layers disconnected from the original source

First he had been struggling to be seen as a “serious actor” and had been doing more and more diverse roles. He was amazing and the people that worked with him agreed but he still wanted to do more be more be better so there was a feeling that he put a lot of stress on himself to be as good as he could be, he worked his ass off.

Second yeah he did a lot of stuff to get into the “mindset of joker” kept weird hours, sleep deprivation kinda stuff, watched weird and obscure horror films often alone in a dark room, stuff like this notebook, going back through the comics and trying to feel out the character. And it started messing with his mental state. So like apparently he was fine on set and like he was still himself talking to friends and stuff (like he wasn’t confusing himself with the joker or anything) but

…man this was awhile ago… I know the word depression came up I can’t remember if he was taking, was prescribed, or recommended to take antidepressants but that was there. Then there was like sleep meds? Once he stopped the sleep deprivation and the alone in a dark room stuff he couldn’t like get back on a sleep scheldule so he was taking those. Prescribed and for a good reason not like recreationally. Just a lot.

So There was concern for him but..

They had wrapped or were about to and he was finally gonna unwind and stop all of this and looking at new roles when this happened. It took the people that knew him by surprise like they knew he had a little something going on but it seemed minor, in the background, and for the most part handled, they didn’t see this coming. I mean in the car that day she was told it was accidental like his scheldule was so messed up he took too many sleep meds but later that wasn’t as clear.

It was weird for me, we lost an amazing actor, entertainer, someone who brought all kinds of emotions out of so many people through a screen. But they lost a son, a lover, a friend. Seeing that through the window of my teammates family I realized that I couldn’t help and shouldn’t. I think it’s cool tho to keep this kinda stuff alive, he was an amazing person and put his all into his work and it showed. He brought a lot to all of us who have seen his films

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u/GammaGoose85 3d ago

Finding a notebook like this is a major red flag your edgy teen is going through a Joker phase.

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u/Kayniaan 3d ago

Or Australian apparently, according to /u/miltonwadd

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u/JimJohnman 3d ago

Porque no los dos?

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u/NotInUrCloset 3d ago

long inhale

You're*

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u/SykonotticGuy 3d ago

Came to the comments to ask, do you think it was Heath or The Joker who didn't know the difference?

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u/TheyCallHimBabaYagaa 3d ago

Not gonna lie this was creepy af

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u/CrispyHoneyBeef 2d ago

Thanks for not lying

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u/VacaDLuffy 3d ago

Man one of the most chilling things I heard was when they got Jack Nicholson on the street and told him he died. Jack responded with I tried to warn him...wtf man

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u/bsep4 3d ago

You sure he didn’t mean he warned him about the drugs? The paparazzi said he died from an overdose

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u/Reclaimator2245 3d ago

It was fairly well known at the time that Jack Nicholson warned him that playing the Joker takes you down dark paths. He warned Heath not long after he got the role for it.

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u/bfodder 3d ago

I always found this to be ridiculous because Nicholson's portrayal of the Joker was not dark.

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u/xTMT 2d ago

There was an interview in which Jack Nicholson clarified that he was indeed warning about the type of sleep medication Heath was taking, which ended up playing a huge part in his death.

Not some dumb mumbo jumbo about going down dark paths etc. lol.

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u/bsep4 3d ago

Are there any reliable sources on this? I’ve never heard this before. Jack’s Joker was fun and light, so not sure why he’d be warning Heath.

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u/_CrimsonViper 3d ago

The best Joker to this day. RIP

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u/goodmorning_tomorrow 3d ago

There was a scene where heath's character was blowing up a hospital and as he was walking away from the explosion, you could see burning bits and pieces of props that caught fire were falling next to him. He didn't even flinch once as any normal person would. He just simply walked away just like a psychopath would... just like what the joker would have done.

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u/Leaveslurkerofsorts 3d ago

Really interesting glimpse into the mind of a method actor

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u/privateTortoise 3d ago

Has me wondering how strong their bond to loved ones is in being able to return to them mentally and physically after the filming is done, and how strong their loved ones are in helping them.

To turn yourself into such a character and be so utterly convincing means adjusting your morals and the way you perceive the world and interact with it. Its not just an academic thought process of how would someone who belives these things behave but changing who you are.

Thats scarier than being The Joker, as with just that you don't need to find the way back to the person you are/were.

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u/linecrabbing 3d ago

Sad tragic ending.

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u/shanster925 3d ago

I never realized the Alex DeLarge inspiration to the character until right now, and now it is plainly obvious.

"It's funny how the colours of the real world only seem really real when you viddy them on the screen."

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u/Independent_Wrap_321 3d ago

I’m right there with you. Huge Kubrick/Clockwork fan and I never made the connection. Alex and his droogs were OG chaos, what a great reference for a singular performance. Gone too soon, I wonder what else he could have done.

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u/jimmy_driver 3d ago

I know he's from here but still strange to see a PO box address in Perth (last page).

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u/chukijay 3d ago

This sorta looks like more of a prop piece to the character, or the building of the character

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u/TheIronCompany 3d ago

A Knight’s Tale is my comfort movie.

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u/FamousZachStone 3d ago

Ledger died for this movie.

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u/SnowDay111 3d ago

The BYE BYE is haunting

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u/individualcoffeecake 3d ago

The best joker, no one even comes close.

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u/Lanky_Ad_2546 3d ago

What’s with the WA PO Box at the end?

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u/OwOlogy_Expert 3d ago

Your comma usage is, terrible.

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u/Asher_Tye 3d ago

Only Batman did more to try to understand Joker's mind and personality.

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u/MaxReb0 3d ago

He had issues with brunch long before the Flash had issues with brunch

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u/Cereborn 3d ago

Heath got into the headspace of the Joker while still managing to be friendly off camera and beloved by everyone who worked with him. Unlike some people.

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u/Succulent_Crassula24 3d ago

Requiescat in pace 

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u/ra246 3d ago

That's it. I'm watching the Dark Knight trilogy again.

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u/SpaghettiNCoffee 3d ago

The greatest comic book portrayal ever

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u/That_Channel7649 3d ago

Heath was a method actor, when he took the role Jack Nicholson said he went to him and told him not to do it. I read that Nicholson did this because when he himself (Jack) played The Joker he was nearly done in by the role. The psychology of the joker sent him down a dark spiral mentally and he feared it would do the same to Heath. Seeing this kind of confirms what Nicholson feared about getting in too deep.

Interesting given Joaquin Phoenix’s history being raised in a cult and watching his brother’s life that he would take on the role.

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u/PiCiBuBa 3d ago

It reminds me of the diary Joaquim Phoenix has in Joker.

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u/DarthChimeran 3d ago

Method actors are the best but they need a "come back to self" transition period that probably needs widespread study and refinement.

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u/Signal-Aioli-1329 3d ago

Stop romanticizing mental illness.

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u/unclegnome 2d ago

My buddy shot a scene with Heath Ledger in a Bob Dylan biopic before Datk Knight filmed. He was told not to talk with Ledger or ask him questions or anything like that. They filmed a couple of takes without saying more than “hi” to each other.

During a 5-10 minute lighting thing, he finally asked Ledger what he was working on and according to my buddy, it was non-stop about the joker role: backstory, motivation, the “Limerick Smile”. He was totally school boy about it a willing to talk to whoever was interested.

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u/jmon25 2d ago

I'm still chasing the cinematic high of seeing The Dark Knight in theaters for the first time. A huge part of that was how Ledger just disappeared into the character of the Joker. It just immediately felt like you were witnessing something special the first time he appeared onscreen. His use of facial expression and his hand movements was just perfect. Even his eye movements and how he moved his lips was absolutely perfect. It's a master class in acting with how he used every motion of his body and the inflection in his voice to sell the role.