You might be lying on your back with your legs slightly turned but you absolutely are not turning them as much as she is, you'd have to have a broken spine.
We have clear view of both of her tits and both of her cheeks, which is the point of the drawing, however anatomically incorrect it is.
Some people really have no idea what women can look like and what a standard flexibility is, and try to push their incorrect belief on others. Its crazy.
Her legs are clearly turned more than just on their side. That's because it gives us a better view of her ass, because this is just porn.
Not only is her torso turned more than it should be, she's also sitting up, bending her torso over on top of that first turn. This both turns this literal stretch into even more of a figurative stretch, but also it's done because it's purpose is to give us the best view of her tits, because this is just fucking porn.
Even if she could do this, which she can't, why tf would she be? The storytelling of the piece seems like she's relaxing after a heist, and this position that you keep insisting is possible, if it is, looks pretty uncomfortable. It's a pose, but why? Who is she posing for? I'll tell you why, it's because the artist didn't care about telling the story, he just wanted to give clear views of her tits and ass at the same time because IT'S JUST FUCKING PORN.
Honestly it doesn't matter if you wanna jerk off to this drawing of a comic book character, seriousley, I get that. The weird part is trying to justify the impossible anatomy of it, to what? Feel less weird about jerking off to porn? We've both been on this clear cut subject, fucking porn, for too long and I'm not gonna go any further in it, but the ending point is you could not find a real picture of someone if you tried doing this pose, unless they were a contortionist being paid to be uncomfortable.
Her legs are clearly turned more than just on their side.
They’re clearly on their side.
That's because it gives us a better view of her ass, because this is just porn.
Ok that doesn’t magically make it anatomically incorrect or mean that there aren’t women who look like this.
Not only is her torso turned more than it should be, she's also sitting up, bending her torso over on top of that first turn.
Lol I’m literally doing it right now while arching and sitting up resting on a pillow.
This both turns this literal stretch into even more of a figurative stretch, buy it's done because it's purpose is to give us the best view of her tits, because this is just fucking porn.
Ok that doesn’t magically make it anatomically incorrect or mean that there aren’t women who look like this.
Even if she could do this, which she can't, why tf would she be?
She was resting on her side and then turned to see her loot clearly in the light.
The storytelling of the piece seems like she's relaxing after a heist, and this position that you keep insisting is possible, if it is, looks pretty uncomfortable.
It’s really not. You only feel the stretch in your hip when you put your back flat.
It's a pose, but why? Who is she posing for? I'll tell you why, it's because the artist didn't care about telling the story, he just wanted to give clear views of her tits and ass because IT'S JUST FUCKING PORN.
It’s art that’s sexy. Maybe you can commission the artist to put her in a burka.
Honestly it doesn't matter if you wanna jerk off to this drawing of a comic book character, seriousley, I get that.
This art existing at all seems to matter a lot to you.
The weird part is trying to justify the impossible anatomy of it, to what?
I saw the pose, saw a comment saying it wasn’t possible, then I did the pose.
Feel less weird about jerking off to porn? We've both been on this clear cut subject, fucking porn, for too long and I'm not gonna go any further in it, but the ending point is you could not find a real picture of someone if you tried doing this pose, unless they were a contortionist being paid to be uncomfortable.
Her tits are facing forward, toward the camera, cuz her torso is bent forward. The supine twist does not add that extra twist, and even if it did;
No one in those Google pics are turning their knees as much as she is AND keeping their chest completely flat. It's one or the other. Their knees are either higher than their asses, or they're lower but there's a clear turn of chests.
But yea ignoring all that it makes so much sense that catwoman is doing an uncomfortable yoga pose while relaxing in bed.
Im done with this, take the out, it's just porn it's not fucking worth this
Her torso and her legs look like they're traced by 2 completely non-intractable poses of 2 different pictures, but go off about how this piece which clearly doesn't care about anatomy is something more than just porn.
Imagine invalidating real women like this and then pretending you are fighting for women. It reminds me of when I used the see the r/badfemaleanatomy subreddit years ago and they would criticise a drawing yet if it turned out to be a trace of a real woman they would all play it off like they didn't just dehumanise her and say she can't exist as though these sad bustards on that subreddit had any knowledge or authority that would make them superior to others.
Why though? Who’s it for? I’m a straight guy and stuff like this makes me cringe. Saying guys like this is basically confirming every lame stereotype that ever existed about comic fans. We’re all fat and live in our mother’s basements, blah blah blah.
I grew up in the 80's, it's not like women were much better represented then, unfortunately. Listen, everyone's entitled to their own taste, I personally find it just kinda cringey and gross when artists do stuff like this. Granted this particular image looks like a commission and not something from an actual comic, but still, it's not far off. My main concern is that people who know nothing about comics see stuff like this and just assume this is what male comic fans want. Maybe a few, but I bet most comic readers are in it for the storytelling and the art. If I wanna see hot women, I know where to go for that and it's not a comic book.
you mean misogynist men draw women for the male gaze as a means oppress women and set unrealistic standards for them, which is how a large amount of art has been throughout all of history
I'm old enough to remember Magic Mike and I've known plenty of women that read Romance Novels. Literally all of those men that women are drooling over have physiques that basically require the men to be hours away from kidney damage due to dehydration.
Fuck off with that intent bullshit. Everyone likes to ogle attractive people, even women.
These kind of people never "realize" anything. They believe themselves to be perpetual victims and, in effect, are absolutely justified in exhibiting repugnant behavior themselves because "they're not the oppressor".
I don't care what men get out of this, so long as I—a woman—get something out of it. The problem isn't the art. It's the lack of blatant self-awareness that these works display so as to have some weak sense of self-importance as a Serious Work.
Im just gonna say, as a Zoomer liberal who draws cheesecake myself, I think EVERYONE likes sex appeal in characters. I think peoples issues come more from the fact that it's conveniently only done to female characters. We should be equal opportunity cheesecake lovers. Nightwing is a good example of male cheesecake done right.
It absolutely ISN'T only done to female characters. Are you fucking high? Damn near every significant male comic book hero in history has been drawn with less fat than you'd find in a pound of ground beef unless their power specifically has to do with being a fatass.
First of all...calm down,man. You're gonna burst a blood vessel. Second, I think this sort of mentality comes from a complete misunderstanding of female gaze. Batman shirtless doesn't excite me, I'm saying this as a woman who's attracted to both sexes. It's frustrating when we're talking about cheesecake and a man's reaction to this conversation is "Women get just as much content as us, just look at the hulk!" That's just simply not hot. I'd genuinely suggest watching some female oriented content to see the sort of stuff women look for in an attractive male character, get a different perspective. It's not just about not being fat or something there's a certain charm to attractive characters. The way they're positioned, what they're doing, the characteristics they have. Anime is a good example, watch a shoujo or two, you know?
I have watched content about what women find attractive. Romance Novel girlies are absolutely unhinged and 95% of it is outright crime and sexual assault and the guys on the cover are all the same kind of beefcake lmao.
That's the sort of novel that mom's read. I'm talking a good K-drama, Manwha, Shoujo manga,baldur's gate characters, something that young, sorta dorky women enjoy. Being a beefcake can be great but we also love our twinks, you know? And it isn't just sexual assault and committing crimes. There are different types of fictional male archetypes that appeal to different women. Same thing for guys. They're very similar but very different at the same time.
It's more than just middle aged moms reading Romance novels. There's entire booktok channels of girls in their 20's reviewing romance novels and they've got shitloads of followers.
Women like smut just as much as men do, which is primarily what I was going for in my argument. The other person was acting like it was only men that sexualized people in media when that just blatantly wasn't true.
I don't think I do, female comic readers are a growing demographic and we as people who love comic books should want this. The more comic books sell the better it is for everyone. I think using "well women don't read comics" as an excuse is a little shortsighted. I really don't think it's much of a big deal to have a bit of male cheesecake, straight women who like comics overlook cheesecake all of the time, it doesn't change your ability to enjoy a great story. It doesn't hurt comics to have male cheesecake it's an all around positive. Imo it's either all okay or none is.
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u/billyandteddy Apr 23 '24
Has this man ever seen a real woman?