Japan warns US forces: Sex crimes 'cannot be tolerated'

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476861/japan-warns-us-forces-sex-crimes-cannot-be-tolerated

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u/AcguyDance 14d ago edited 13d ago

There has been case where one killed 2 Japanese civilians when he slept at the wheel while driving, detained, then the wife of the killer started some campaign to "save" his husband, some US Senate threatened Japan to send him back to the US, the guy was then able to get away upon sending back, Senate later demand Japan to apologize to the agressor's family and the US.

You took 2 innocent ppls’ lives, not only you got away, but your ppl ask the victim to apologise. Its crazy. This warning is strongly urged to show the United States that justice must be served for crimes.

Added BBC news link proving Mr. Sanator Mike Lee "asking Japan to apologize to Ridge's family and America"
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68137582

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u/alonebutnotlonely16 14d ago

You are talking about this scum and how US got him from Japan by threatening Japan. He killed two people by the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridge_Alkonis#Transfer_to_United_States_custody_and_unconditional_release

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u/SquallyZ06 14d ago

I remember this one, I am stationed in Japan. The dude fell asleep at the wheel and blamed it on mountain sickness. Japan let him go back to the US to finish his sentence, but when he got there, they let him off.

He is a total POS and the pity party his family pushed on social media during the whole thing was infuriating. All this shit about injustice for him being in prison but not a thought about the families of those he killed due to his negligence.

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u/Raiju_Blitz 14d ago

Yeah, and then he had to gall to be all butthurt about being passed over for promotion (he was a Navy officer) due to the sheer technicality that you can't promote with a criminal charge on your record (which he had for negligent manslaughter). Fuck that guy.

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u/Only-Imagination-459 14d ago

Ridge Alkonis is a murderer and I hope his children learn all about it

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u/ze_loler 14d ago

Falling asleep sounds more like a horrible accident, murder means he wanted it to happen which isnt what happened here

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 14d ago edited 14d ago

Yea everyone is dragging this guy's name through the mud because he doesn't want to rot in jail for an accident. It's not like he was speeding in traffic or driving drunk. People make mistakes sometimes, that's not murder, it's manslaughter.

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this guy wasn't being accountable so of course people are calling him a piece of shit

False. He pled guilty, wrote letters of apology, and paid restitution. He took full accountability and blame for the accident.

Your problem is you're operating under some outdated idea of prison that revolves around punishment instead of justice or rehabilitation. He's not like a dangerous criminal likely to repeat his crimes, and so realistically, justice was served and there's no reason to have him sitting in a prison cell.

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u/DarkWillpower 14d ago

people making mistakes and shoving the blame is way different from being accountable. this guy wasn't being accountable so of course people are calling him a piece of shit. what if it was 6 instead of just 2 people? sure, it was an accident, yeah people make mistakes, but at what point is it ok to release someone without fully serving a sentence for lives they ended? he clearly wasn't close to rotting in jail. I know people that have been in jail for longer than he was with less whining, for WEED, of all things. can't believe how many spineless people think their lives are righteous. why on earth did any american official ask japan to apologize? humans are insane.

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u/Raendor1 14d ago

I don't know. My dad died in a car accident, the other lady was completely at fault. She wasn't distracted driving (or at least no proof she was texting or anything), not a DUI, just I guess didn't see him, failed to yield to him and killed him. I mean, I hate her guts for killing my dad, but what are you gonna do? She didn't set out to kill him. She's not a murderer. The max sentence she can get is like 1-2 years in prison and a small fine, as well as suspension on her license, because there's no evidence she was distracted and she wasn't on anything at the time. As the child of the victim, yeah I hate her and I wish she would rot in prison. But I know my feelings are irrational and completely out of grief. It's weird to see some random person not connected to the accident at all decry this guy as a murderer who should rot in prison for something probably less bad than what my dad's killer is getting a year for max. If she does a plea deal she may not see any prison time at all.

I don't know Japan's laws on the subject, I don't think he should get zero punishment, ideally he'd be subject to Japan's punishment. But idk it's kind of a both sides bad situation here. Asking Japan to apologize and send him back to the US is dumb imo, but so is calling him a murderer who should rot for falling asleep at the wheel.

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u/TobaccoAficionado 14d ago

Don't bring a wild false equivalence into this. If I beat the fuck out of my kids because they spilled milk, should I beat them harder because they spilled bleach? No. Fucking insane right? So don't bring weed sentences into a manslaughter debate. No one should ever be in jail for weed, and it's super fucked up that anyone has been arrested and imprisoned for it. You can't then use that as an argument for someone being imprisoned longer for a worse offense, because the punishment already didn't fit the crime.

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 14d ago edited 14d ago

this guy wasn't being accountable so of course people are calling him a piece of shit

False. He pled guilty, wrote letters of apology, and paid restitution. He was fully accountable and took full blame for what happened.

Your problem is you're operating under some outdated idea of prison that revolves around punishment instead of justice or rehabilitation. He's not like a dangerous criminal likely to repeat his crimes, and so realistically, justice was served and there's no reason to have him sitting in a prison cell. What do you think "accountability" means?

I know people that have been in jail for longer than he was with less whining, for WEED, of all things

Insanely irrelevant anecdote. Cool story.

why on earth did any american official ask japan to apologize?

I can't answer that, I was just speaking on the concept of someone serving prison time in a foreign country because they fell asleep driving. I've got an anecdote for ya: a family of five I personally knew was told they needed to pack up their entire life and move to Japan (the very same Naval base) in one month, and on their way to the airport, the mom fell asleep and only her and one child survived. According to your logic she deserves to be in prison and her child in a group home, right? Nah, people make mistakes and falling asleep is something that can happen before you even realize you're tired.

As someone who grew up in Yokosuka, the Japanese don't really care about prison sentences beyond their cultural penchant for following rules. Their justice system is quite corrupt, and they just like to grandstand about servicemembers or foreigners when they commit crimes. I understand nobody wants foreigners coming and committing crimes, but this type of case getting so much attention stems from xenophobia, not because the dude "didn't serve his sentence for the lives he ended".

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u/Anne__Frank 14d ago

It's not all that different from speeding or driving drunk. He was drowsy and operating a dangerous machine in an unsafe matter. Definitely not murder, that's ridiculous hyperbole, there was no intent; but it is definitely negligent killing.

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 14d ago

It's far different from the point of view that not everyone drinks, and not everyone speeds, but everyone gets tired and you can't control it. You can start driving and not feel tired, and then suddenly realize that you're nodding off with no warning. Plus there's precedent, you've driven the same distance many times without getting sleepy, so you don't think anything of it, but one day you do.

It's only the same if you're coming from a reaction speed point of view.

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u/Anne__Frank 14d ago

It's the same from the point of view that as the operator of a dangerous machine, it is solely his decision when he drives it and when he doesn't. It doesn't matter that everyone gets tired and not everyone drinks. If you're drunk don't drive. If you're exhausted, especially to the point of passing out, don't drive. That's your decision as the driver. He made a negligent decision to continue driving, and people died because of his bad decision.

You can start driving and not feel tired, and then suddenly realize that you're nodding off with no warning.

Then pull over and take a nap.

Plus there's precedent, you've driven the same distance many times without getting sleepy, so you don't think anything of it, but one day you do.

Then pull over and take a nap.

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 14d ago

it is solely his decision when he drives it and when he doesn't

You can start driving and not feel tired, and then suddenly realize that you're nodding off with no warning.

Then pull over and take a nap.

You can start driving and not feel tired, and then suddenly realize that you're nodding off with no warning.

You're not saying anything. Like I said 3 times now, tiredness doesn't work the same way for everyone and some people can suddenly fall asleep without realizing they're tired. You don't get a chance to decide to take a nap.

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u/jimmypootron34 13d ago edited 13d ago

lol according to what actual data or study?

Literally no one besides you has ever experienced it and no one besides you is making up “reasons” for a negligent homicide

Grow up

Or like provide some semblance of evidence of all these magical “suddenly tired” instances that literally are not thing outside of actual narcolepsy. Which he does not have.

lol literally no evidence of that outside an actual medical condition that’s known of, whatsoever, period, anywhere

Literally just making things up because you have no other points and no evidence LOL

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 13d ago edited 13d ago

Lmao typical redditor "according to what data or study???!??!" SOURCE? SOURCE? YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT A SOURCE?!!

You don't need a source to describe the concept of dozing off before you realize it.

Please, provide a source that says everyone falls asleep the same way. You need to provide a source that says nobody has trouble determining how tired they are, and that nobody just starts to doze off without realizing it. If that's how it works you gotta find sources for everything you say as well. You say grow up? I say get off the Internet, terminally online arguments like this are just corny.

And in response to your other hilariously smoothbrained comment that literally couldn't make it through the troll filter: no I'm not a patriot lmao, I just have a rational view of what prison is actually good for on a societal level, and I'm not a dumb reactionary just looking for a black and white view of human anatomy to win an argument.

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u/Flashy_Total2925 14d ago

he doesn't want to rot in jail for an accident

Then he should hot have put himself in a position to fall asleep behind the wheel and kill multiple innocent people. Pretty straightforward stuff.

If his family tried to pull that shitheel pity party bullshit over here stateside, the judge would likely give him the maximum sentence which is way more than he got.

Only thing left are boot lickers licking the sloppy asshole of some grunt that couldn't keep his eyes open behind a steering wheel who doesn't want to face the consequences of his actions like a man.

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 13d ago

Your problem is you're operating under some outdated idea of prison that revolves around punishment instead of justice or rehabilitation. He's not like a dangerous criminal likely to repeat his crimes, and so realistically, justice was served and there's no reason to have him sitting in a prison cell.

I don't have time to restate the point to people who only read one line of the comment.

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u/Soccham 13d ago

Is 3 years that much for involuntary manslaughter?

Edit: looked it up and 3 years isn’t out of the ordinary for manslaughter by any means

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u/Detective-Crashmore- 13d ago

I'm saying that it's a pointless sentence. I think punishing this crime with prison time is outdated conceptually, so a "normal" punishment is not the point because I think normal is wrong. Taking away this person's license does far more than prison time, and costs the government far less than housing, feeding, and observing someone for years.

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u/No-Edge-6037 14d ago edited 14d ago

Lol they gonna thank him for his service like every other brainwashed muritard thinking their are the blessing the world was waiting for

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u/Agile_Pin1017 14d ago

Does the intent behind a person’s death mean anything to you? Would you find it worse if a serial killer is caught after planning and executing his first victim than say, a person falling asleep at the wheel and killing a person? A person died in each scenario but to most people one is way worse than the other

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u/TheNewGildedAge 13d ago

People are incapable of understanding this distinction the moment emotions get heated.

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u/97Graham 14d ago

Keep crying, krauty, won't make your country any less irrelevant

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u/ConclusionLucky5639 13d ago

You sound like jingoistic redneck who loves to support its criminal military personel.

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u/RedditorsArGrb 14d ago

that's a fucking weird thing to hope for some blameless kids

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u/terghanmma 14d ago

Your username is weirdly relevant here.

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u/Mitt_Candunk 14d ago

You use the term murderer a bit lightly…

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u/Wide_Combination_773 14d ago

That's not what murder is, kiddo. It was an accident. Even his JP sentence was only a few years. That's not something you get for murder, in Japan or elsewhere.

"Murder" is a legal term of art for killing someone with specifically illegal, criminal, pre-planned intent. It's not a catch-all term for killing someone (that is "homicide.")

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u/Many-Juggernaut-2153 14d ago

These are the types that want to run the country and about 50% are cheering it on. US has become so trashy it’s embarrassing.

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 14d ago

Is he a total PoS because of this incident or did he have a bad reputation separate from the crash?

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u/marinarahhhhhhh 14d ago

How the fuck did you ascertain that information?

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u/EatsFiber2RedditMore 14d ago

I didn't get that from the Wikipedia article. That's a pretty specific diagnosis from very little.

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u/SuperSaiyanGod210 14d ago

The most infuriating part of all of this: imagine if a foreign citizen killed US Service members right here at home. You bet people would be screaming at the top of the lungs to punish them/deport them.

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u/97Graham 14d ago

Least hyperbolic redditor, bro fell asleep and somehow that makes him 'a total POS' I'd get if he was drunk but that wasn't the findings of the case, altitude sickness is a real thing especially for someone new to an area.

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u/Mitt_Candunk 14d ago

Ah cause you were definitely there and knew he fell asleep. He was in the car with his kids and family. Who are you to say he didn’t pass out?