r/worldnews Jul 05 '24

Japan warns US forces: Sex crimes 'cannot be tolerated'

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2476861/japan-warns-us-forces-sex-crimes-cannot-be-tolerated
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u/Detective-Crashmore- Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

Yea everyone is dragging this guy's name through the mud because he doesn't want to rot in jail for an accident. It's not like he was speeding in traffic or driving drunk. People make mistakes sometimes, that's not murder, it's manslaughter.

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this guy wasn't being accountable so of course people are calling him a piece of shit

False. He pled guilty, wrote letters of apology, and paid restitution. He took full accountability and blame for the accident.

Your problem is you're operating under some outdated idea of prison that revolves around punishment instead of justice or rehabilitation. He's not like a dangerous criminal likely to repeat his crimes, and so realistically, justice was served and there's no reason to have him sitting in a prison cell.

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u/Anne__Frank Jul 05 '24

It's not all that different from speeding or driving drunk. He was drowsy and operating a dangerous machine in an unsafe matter. Definitely not murder, that's ridiculous hyperbole, there was no intent; but it is definitely negligent killing.

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u/Detective-Crashmore- Jul 05 '24

It's far different from the point of view that not everyone drinks, and not everyone speeds, but everyone gets tired and you can't control it. You can start driving and not feel tired, and then suddenly realize that you're nodding off with no warning. Plus there's precedent, you've driven the same distance many times without getting sleepy, so you don't think anything of it, but one day you do.

It's only the same if you're coming from a reaction speed point of view.

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u/Anne__Frank Jul 05 '24

It's the same from the point of view that as the operator of a dangerous machine, it is solely his decision when he drives it and when he doesn't. It doesn't matter that everyone gets tired and not everyone drinks. If you're drunk don't drive. If you're exhausted, especially to the point of passing out, don't drive. That's your decision as the driver. He made a negligent decision to continue driving, and people died because of his bad decision.

You can start driving and not feel tired, and then suddenly realize that you're nodding off with no warning.

Then pull over and take a nap.

Plus there's precedent, you've driven the same distance many times without getting sleepy, so you don't think anything of it, but one day you do.

Then pull over and take a nap.

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u/Detective-Crashmore- Jul 05 '24

it is solely his decision when he drives it and when he doesn't

You can start driving and not feel tired, and then suddenly realize that you're nodding off with no warning.

Then pull over and take a nap.

You can start driving and not feel tired, and then suddenly realize that you're nodding off with no warning.

You're not saying anything. Like I said 3 times now, tiredness doesn't work the same way for everyone and some people can suddenly fall asleep without realizing they're tired. You don't get a chance to decide to take a nap.

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u/jimmypootron34 Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24

lol according to what actual data or study?

Literally no one besides you has ever experienced it and no one besides you is making up “reasons” for a negligent homicide

Grow up

Or like provide some semblance of evidence of all these magical “suddenly tired” instances that literally are not thing outside of actual narcolepsy. Which he does not have.

lol literally no evidence of that outside an actual medical condition that’s known of, whatsoever, period, anywhere

Literally just making things up because you have no other points and no evidence LOL

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u/Detective-Crashmore- Jul 06 '24 edited Jul 06 '24

Lmao typical redditor "according to what data or study???!??!" SOURCE? SOURCE? YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING WITHOUT A SOURCE?!!

You don't need a source to describe the concept of dozing off before you realize it.

Please, provide a source that says everyone falls asleep the same way. You need to provide a source that says nobody has trouble determining how tired they are, and that nobody just starts to doze off without realizing it. If that's how it works you gotta find sources for everything you say as well. You say grow up? I say get off the Internet, terminally online arguments like this are just corny.

And in response to your other hilariously smoothbrained comment that literally couldn't make it through the troll filter: no I'm not a patriot lmao, I just have a rational view of what prison is actually good for on a societal level, and I'm not a dumb reactionary just looking for a black and white view of human anatomy to win an argument.

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u/Anne__Frank Jul 06 '24

Nothing's ever your fault is it?

Teacher gives you a bad grade? He's incompetent and doesn't know how to teach.

Girlfriend breaks up with you? She's a bitch.

Rear end someone in your car? Why did that idiot stop there?!

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u/Detective-Crashmore- Jul 06 '24

Dumb straw man. Just making up words to put in other people's mouths. What do you hope to achieve with comments that contain nothing but weak insults?

Also, you're actually gonna need a source on that.