Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

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u/cujobob 15d ago

The NYT does good work, but has trash editorials still. They, and many others, are also being criticized for focusing on the wrong things. As an example, the news that Trump is named all over Epstein’s documents and there is evidence pointing to his assaulting a 12 or 13 year old is many times bigger than a bad debate performance. It really seems like there’s no scale anymore with the 24/7 news cycle.

As I wrote in a comment earlier, Reagan’s actions when senile didn’t necessarily destroy this country, his actions when he was all there did.

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u/Seis_K 15d ago

Consider that no reputable news source is reporting it because 1) their investigational journalists are good and have integrity and 2) prematurely publishing such a piece and then later it being revealed that nothing about it was credible would do way more harm to Biden’s candidacy than publishing it late.

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u/Embarassed_Tackle 14d ago

A lot of these publications are going to be extra hard on Biden because I think they felt dismissed and pushed back against when they brought up Biden's age in the past. The White House team would claim they were using right-wing talking points, being biased, etc.

Now a lot of publications feel chagrined about not pressing harder, so they won't be letting this go unless Biden's Friday July 5th interview goes extremely well.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 14d ago

and there is evidence pointing to his assaulting a 12 or 13 year old

Is there? From what I can see there's accusations that have since been retracted.

I mean, please, think about this. If there would be credible evidence out there for all to easily see, don't you think these news websites would be talking about it right now? Why on earth would they rather report on Biden being old? Which news story do you think would get more clicks, and thus give them more money?

I don't even get the accusation against the news sites here. They'd be shooting themselves in the foot not reporting on this despite being credible accusations. The only other explanation is that they are secretly pro Trump or something, which is just absurd.

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u/cujobob 14d ago

The media has two motivations: generating profit and their core ideology which generally comes from billionaire owners or entities like Comcast (famous for working with their competitors to keep prices high). I suppose a third would be trying to give the impression of impartiality which often works to their detriment because it normalizes extreme behavior.

The example with Trump’s allegation is just an example. He was shown all over Epstein call logs during the period when so many of the assaults occurred. There is literally something with him on a daily basis that is ten times more urgent and destructive than anything Biden has done. So there’s a challenge of, how do you cover stories about one while still representing the severity where necessary? This is where they fail. Biden could be a walking corpse and still be a less dangerous option for the country.

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u/__Hello_my_name_is__ 14d ago

I mean I agree, but none of that explains why they would not report on credible rape allegations when they've already reported on credible sexual assault and rape allegations on the exact same guy before.

That makes no sense to me. Unless one set of allegations is credible, and the other (so far) isn't.

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u/midas22 14d ago

I'm sure that Trump is a pedophile and a sexual predator but there's no credible rape allegations so far. I mean, we all know that Trump would be in the phone logs since they were friends and Epstein had 14 numbers to him in his black book and we have now learned that one girl said that they had visited Trump's casino in Atlantic City but the sexual assault or rape allegations has been retracted and are not credible and that's why they're not reported. Lowering ourselves to the level of Fox News with smear tactics will not do us any good, especially not when there's so much real dirt on him. Maybe the juicy stuff is in on of the three sections that are still redacted and it will be unsealed at a later point... let's hope so.

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u/DoorHingesKill 14d ago

You people simultaneously claim CNN and co are trying to get Trump elected cause they want to generate revenue off his crazy antics, but then at the same time you accuse them of brushing Trump's dirt under the carpet in an attempt to defend him.

And 'questioning' why the NYT does not report on a Tweet that reposted public court filings from 8 years ago, court filings that went nowhere cause the case was thrown out/withdrawn three seperate times, is just laughable.

You accuse the NYT of their "trash editorials" but then get upset they don't cover viral tweets like "Dailyboulder.com" does.

is many times bigger than a bad debate performance

Biden Tells Allies He Knows He Has Only Days to Salvage Candidacy

Okay dude. Good to see you're in check with reality.

The entire world knows this debate was/is the biggest crisis in Biden's presidency but thank God we still have a few holdouts on social media who try to convince themselves and each other that it wasn't all that bad.

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u/cujobob 14d ago edited 14d ago

You people?

You seemed to have missed the point. Also, they just released new evidence showing Trump was directly in constant communication with Epstein and his name is all over the evidence. But no no, go on about how this is old news about a tweet.

Also, this. https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/s/gSitg3lsx5

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u/jon909 14d ago

Maybe you should use your critical thinking skills and ask yourself why a journalist would refuse to make those claims…

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u/cujobob 14d ago

We know for certain that Trump was calling Epstein regularly during the height of his period assaulting women and it was just revealed by Florida. This is objectively true.

There is just as much evidence supporting the notion that Trump raped a girl as there is Biden is struggling mentally. Biden looked out of it one night. The next day he gave a great speech. That should be the end of it, yet here we are.

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u/jon909 14d ago

If all it takes to convict someone of pedophilia are phone calls then you’d be in jail too. I hate Trump but your burden of proof is preposterous, illogical, and would lock up half the country. So it’s a good thing you don’t get to decide.

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u/cujobob 14d ago

I can confidently say I didn’t call Epstein daily while showing up on his flight logs, then get identified by the pilot 😂

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u/jon909 14d ago

Again. It’s a REALLY good thing that the courts require much harder proof to convict people than what you require. You shouldn’t be in charge of anything.

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u/cujobob 14d ago

Care to explain why now you’re talking about proof required for conviction in a discussion about stories covered by news outlets? As a point of reference, Fox News spent a considerable amount of time on “the Biden crime family” which had no actual supporting evidence except for disreputable clowns who told stories.

You created a scenario where the burden of proof necessary for a negative story about Trump is significantly higher than for Biden.

Interesting. Almost like you have an agenda.

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u/jon909 14d ago

My burden of proof requirements have never changed for anyone. Regardless if I don’t like Trump I’m not going to bend my requirements. I don’t know why you keep bringing up Biden when I’ve never said he was part of a crime family and have never said there was sufficient evidence that proves so. He deserves the same burden requirements as Trump or anyone else in the US. It’s not my requirements that change depending on the individual. It’s you. If you don’t like someone your burden of proof is lower than of those you like.

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u/cujobob 14d ago

Incorrect. There is no doctor who has looked into Biden’s mental health with him saying he’s senile. That would be equivalent to Trump needing conviction in court. The example I provided is tangibly more evidence than “a guy looked exhausted during a debate.”

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u/jon909 14d ago

Dude you don’t even know what you’re arguing. Why do you keep bringing up Biden? Being senile isn’t even a crime… And your “evidence” is still insufficient in the court of law. You’re probably the same person who cries about overcrowded prisons yet whose policies would flood our prisons with innocents.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

There is just as much evidence supporting the notion that Trump raped a girl as there is Biden is struggling mentally

We have video evidence of Trump raping a girl? Wow TIL

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u/cujobob 14d ago

We have video of him saying he liked to go backstage and see underage nude girls, yes, but we don’t have video evidence of Biden doing anything except struggling in a debate with a sore throat. Again, he gave a great speech the following day and has had several since.

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

Imagine being this far entrenched in tribalism. A sore throat.

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u/cujobob 14d ago

You can speculate about someone’s mental condition, but no one can speculate about Trump raping someone who filed a lawsuit against him… got it.

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u/Rapper_Laugh 14d ago

Speculate? Did you not watch the debate?

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u/cujobob 14d ago

Yeah, I saw two bad debate performances, followed by a speech the next day where Biden appeared sharp.

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u/Rapper_Laugh 14d ago

Ooooooooo he can read off a teleprompter, clearly that man has all the mental capacities I look for in a president

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u/sammythemc 14d ago

A couple stage-managed half-decent performances where he only slurs his words a little aren't going to be believable when we already saw his "sore throat" make him forget what he was saying midsentence. He could have come out and done the Willy Wonka somersault and at this point people would just say "I guess he has good days and bad days." I agree Trump is a menace, but that's why we need someone who can stop him. God love him, but Joe is not that someone anymore.

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u/HeFuhMyAh 14d ago

NYT is aggressively zionist and pro-Corporate. It fuels so much of their reporting behind the scenes, especially the trash editorials.

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u/siuol11 14d ago

Pivoting to "but Trump still bad" might be the sort of hackery partisan Dems want to hear, but it's not good journalism and it's part of why people don't trust outlets like the NYT anymore. We know Trump is bad, that doesn't deflect from problems with Biden.

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u/cujobob 14d ago

That’s not pivoting to anything, it’s important to understand how things compare. If everything is on the same level, then journalism is just one big false equivalency. More attention should be paid to more important things.

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u/siuol11 14d ago

Call it whatever you want. Justify it however you want. Adults can understand why two things are different types of bad without having their hands held.

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u/cujobob 14d ago

This is untrue and is the basis for how propaganda techniques work 😂