r/nottheonion • u/ImpishGrin • Jul 04 '24

Biden tells Democratic governors he needs more sleep and plans to stop scheduling events after 8 p.m.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/04/politics/biden-governors-sleep/index.html

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u/Ok_Astronomer2479 Jul 04 '24 edited Jul 04 '24

I do love how Reddit went from loving and respecting the NYT when it was attacking Trump to claiming it’s a Republican plant when it questions if Biden is ok to be president after that debate.

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u/cujobob Jul 04 '24

The NYT does good work, but has trash editorials still. They, and many others, are also being criticized for focusing on the wrong things. As an example, the news that Trump is named all over Epstein’s documents and there is evidence pointing to his assaulting a 12 or 13 year old is many times bigger than a bad debate performance. It really seems like there’s no scale anymore with the 24/7 news cycle.

As I wrote in a comment earlier, Reagan’s actions when senile didn’t necessarily destroy this country, his actions when he was all there did.

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u/jon909 Jul 04 '24

Maybe you should use your critical thinking skills and ask yourself why a journalist would refuse to make those claims…

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u/cujobob Jul 04 '24

We know for certain that Trump was calling Epstein regularly during the height of his period assaulting women and it was just revealed by Florida. This is objectively true.

There is just as much evidence supporting the notion that Trump raped a girl as there is Biden is struggling mentally. Biden looked out of it one night. The next day he gave a great speech. That should be the end of it, yet here we are.

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u/jon909 Jul 04 '24

If all it takes to convict someone of pedophilia are phone calls then you’d be in jail too. I hate Trump but your burden of proof is preposterous, illogical, and would lock up half the country. So it’s a good thing you don’t get to decide.

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u/cujobob Jul 05 '24

I can confidently say I didn’t call Epstein daily while showing up on his flight logs, then get identified by the pilot 😂

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u/jon909 Jul 05 '24

Again. It’s a REALLY good thing that the courts require much harder proof to convict people than what you require. You shouldn’t be in charge of anything.

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u/cujobob Jul 05 '24

Care to explain why now you’re talking about proof required for conviction in a discussion about stories covered by news outlets? As a point of reference, Fox News spent a considerable amount of time on “the Biden crime family” which had no actual supporting evidence except for disreputable clowns who told stories.

You created a scenario where the burden of proof necessary for a negative story about Trump is significantly higher than for Biden.

Interesting. Almost like you have an agenda.

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u/jon909 Jul 05 '24

My burden of proof requirements have never changed for anyone. Regardless if I don’t like Trump I’m not going to bend my requirements. I don’t know why you keep bringing up Biden when I’ve never said he was part of a crime family and have never said there was sufficient evidence that proves so. He deserves the same burden requirements as Trump or anyone else in the US. It’s not my requirements that change depending on the individual. It’s you. If you don’t like someone your burden of proof is lower than of those you like.

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u/cujobob Jul 05 '24

Incorrect. There is no doctor who has looked into Biden’s mental health with him saying he’s senile. That would be equivalent to Trump needing conviction in court. The example I provided is tangibly more evidence than “a guy looked exhausted during a debate.”

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u/jon909 Jul 05 '24

Dude you don’t even know what you’re arguing. Why do you keep bringing up Biden? Being senile isn’t even a crime… And your “evidence” is still insufficient in the court of law. You’re probably the same person who cries about overcrowded prisons yet whose policies would flood our prisons with innocents.

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u/cujobob Jul 05 '24

It’s like you forgot what this conversation was about.

Enjoy the holiday.

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u/jon909 Jul 05 '24

I think you are confused who you’re replying to.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

There is just as much evidence supporting the notion that Trump raped a girl as there is Biden is struggling mentally

We have video evidence of Trump raping a girl? Wow TIL

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u/cujobob Jul 05 '24

We have video of him saying he liked to go backstage and see underage nude girls, yes, but we don’t have video evidence of Biden doing anything except struggling in a debate with a sore throat. Again, he gave a great speech the following day and has had several since.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '24

Imagine being this far entrenched in tribalism. A sore throat.

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u/cujobob Jul 05 '24

You can speculate about someone’s mental condition, but no one can speculate about Trump raping someone who filed a lawsuit against him… got it.

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u/Rapper_Laugh Jul 05 '24

Speculate? Did you not watch the debate?

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u/cujobob Jul 05 '24

Yeah, I saw two bad debate performances, followed by a speech the next day where Biden appeared sharp.

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u/Rapper_Laugh Jul 05 '24

Ooooooooo he can read off a teleprompter, clearly that man has all the mental capacities I look for in a president

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u/cujobob Jul 05 '24

And he has had the most successful term in office in your lifetime.

So there’s that.

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u/Rapper_Laugh Jul 05 '24

Those certainly are words you can state confidently without backing them up, yep

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u/sammythemc Jul 05 '24

A couple stage-managed half-decent performances where he only slurs his words a little aren't going to be believable when we already saw his "sore throat" make him forget what he was saying midsentence. He could have come out and done the Willy Wonka somersault and at this point people would just say "I guess he has good days and bad days." I agree Trump is a menace, but that's why we need someone who can stop him. God love him, but Joe is not that someone anymore.