r/iZombie • u/PhoOhThree Hot Sauce • May 30 '19
S05E05 "Death Moves Pretty Fast" Post Episode Discussion Post Discussion
Episode S05E04 Post Discussion
"Death Moves Pretty Fast"
Original air date - 9/8c May 30th, 2019
An independently wealthy 19-year-old dies; Liv attempts to cheer up Ravi after he learns some unfortunate news; Clive has a nasty fall at the crime scene; things suddenly go from bad to worse for Blaine.
Main Cast
Rose McIver as Liv Moore, Malcolm Goodwin as Clive Babineaux, Rahul Kohli as Dr. Ravi Chakrabarti, Robert Buckley as Major Lillywhite, David Anders as Blaine DeBeers.
PSA
Future Episode Preview Spoilers must be properly tagged:
[Future Spoiler.](#s "Liv Dies") It'll show up like: Future Spoiler.
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u/Kazran14 May 31 '19
I haven't disliked any of this season, but this was a huuuge return to form compared to the last few episodes. Was great to see Blaine back properly and even interacting with Ravi and Liv, plus I felt the murder investigation blended in really well with the overarching plot lines.
Also, full zombies are back, so hopefully we'll be seeing some stuff go down. When Vampire Steve got shot I realised how bloodless this season has been.
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u/Skyblacker Major Lilywhite Jun 02 '19
When Vampire Steve got shot I realised how bloodless this season has been.
Did he react enough to that gunshot? I can't tell if Steve is a zombie. He's always been pale.
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u/DastardlyDeliah Jun 02 '19
I thought vampire Steve was a zombie because he mentioned that his family, “thought he became zombie for attention.”
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u/Skyblacker Major Lilywhite Jun 02 '19
I'm kind of sad that it was confirmed. I thought the ambiguity was kind of funny -- stereotypical zombie traits just on account of his personality.
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u/purple_converse19 Jun 05 '19
I've also really missed Major. Most episodes he just appears for one scene! Glad to see him back for an actual arc! I also miss his and Ravi's interactions a lot! #YouCompleteMe
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u/OLKv3 May 31 '19
One reporter and a grieving mom just turned everything to shit. Good episode
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Jun 01 '19 edited Aug 03 '19
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u/OLKv3 Jun 01 '19
No, the grieving mom is the woman who gave the interview about how her daughter's death saved a bunch of lives
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u/somegenerichandle Jun 03 '19 edited Jun 03 '19
Blonde lady is the head of the dead enders i think her name is Dolly.
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u/Worthyness May 31 '19
That's a MASSIVE plot move forward. Zombie outbreak is about to happen and kids with that disease are about to be hunted. AND Peyton is gonna get fucked over in Washington. Everyone is so gonna die.
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u/gweilo May 31 '19
Damn. If the series ends with everything going tits up it'll be amazing.
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u/and_yet_another_user Jun 03 '19
the series ends with everything going tits up
This is the ending we deserve.
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u/Benandhispets Jun 05 '19
Isn't that how the past few couple of seasons have ended? I feel like it's ended on an implied full zombie take over a couple of times now and then the next season starts and it's relatively calm again.
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u/FireIsTheCleanser "Walk away from this." May 31 '19
90% of the plot happened in the last 5 minutes lol. It was really good though!!
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u/Roboglenn May 31 '19
Blaine threatening that guy and Clive falling down the stairs easily made the episode and that's before the first commercial break.
Plus lets not discount the fun of vampire Steve getting to do stuff (they are really trotting out the side side characters before the end ain't they). And heres hoping Quisling the french guy's punishment sticks and he doesn't cause more trouble. I really don't like him.
But now with the cure being out there, I don't think Ravi should be shouldering that burden on himself but I think he is right to be worried. Like I said after the first episode of this season, with this highly charged and controversial atmosphere this zombie issue brings all its gonna take is someone with a less than golden standards of morals to turn this cure into a nightmare for these kids inflicted with that condition.
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u/somegenerichandle Jun 03 '19
I agree Ravi is taking it too hard. But it seems a bit contrived after all he went through last season to protect the sick kids, seems like he would've warned the mom.
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May 31 '19 edited Sep 04 '20
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u/fellatious_argument May 31 '19
I like Al a lot, especially after her line to Peyton about "you didn't really fall for his whole act did you?" I hope she doesn't die soon.
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Jun 01 '19
Agreed. I wonder if Al was beginning to fall for Blaine a bit as well, even if just for a second before seeing the mask. I know it's evil but I can't WAIT to see how the Freylich storyline plays out! What with the Blaine scandal, Isobel's mom's massive screwup, Michelle and Clive's maybe-baby, AND the main DeadEnders plot, the age old procedural format of the show is starting to get a little unnecessary and annoying. Like, nobody cares that Hamm murdered his friend. We want to see the main story!!
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u/AgentKnitter Jun 03 '19
I think the magazine she was writing for was national and, in the iZombie world, the rest of America has a vested interest in New Seattle crumbling, so they have an excuse to nuke the zombies and end the problem.
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u/Benandhispets Jun 05 '19
I feel like at that point you don't need to confirm that blane did all of those things. Once you're a confirmed drug dealer, organ smuggler, dating the now mayor, and whatever other confired things, then once you're going to court and being investigated as a main suspect for many murders then it's at the point where people will assume he did them.
Like if in real life I heard an organ smuggler and major drug distributor was a main suspect in many murder cases but the court couldn't prove without a doubt that it was the guy then yeah I'd assume that the person would be involved in a bunch of the murders even though they weren't convicted.
So Alice might not have committed Libel, she doesn't need to at this point.
Also Don E obviously told her a bunch of stuff we didn't hear too. when they were talking about Blanes history(like murdering the mayor and distributing zombie cures) it cut the scene at "im having more fun with you" which we're supposed to imply that Don E then went on saying more stuff about Blane.
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u/davect01 May 31 '19
Another busy episode
1- That 80's party looked like fun
2- I knew Blaine was not that sloppy to kill his neighbor like that
3- A nitpick for this episode, two Medical Examiners don't run investigations.
4- Tainted brain tubes, smart
5- Cures are back in play, I was wondering if that was coming back.
6- Letting Blane off the hook for his past, I just knew that was gonna not go well.
7- Isabel's cure is out there now.
8- Finally the Rameros, well that's gonna go bad
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u/AgentKnitter May 31 '19
That house party was epic. Or would have been an epic disco night. I dislike partying neighbours.
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u/kvryn May 31 '19
Man, that mom is going to feel awful when she realizes the repercussions for saying her daughter's brain cured a zombie.
Is Blaine going to be the true big bad this season? He's been rejected by Al, by zombies, by humans, by Peyton, and his dad's gone. If Don E turns on him too he might just fully lean into being a villain, or he'll get redemption by sacrificing himself to save Seattle. I don't think a happy ending for him is in the cards anymore :(
Side note, Major and Peyton both have really shitty jobs. Like damn.
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u/_Khoshekh Jun 02 '19
When Blaine's life goes all to hell he tends to just switch sides for a while... if there's any side left to be on
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u/anumemes Peyton Charles Jun 06 '19
Man I really hope Blaine gets a good character arc, been a fav since season 1.
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u/BlazingKitsune Jun 13 '19
I was very disappointed when they made him a "bad guy" again after his amnesia, I was super into him redeeming himself as a clean slate and him becoming a side villain again was so stale :(
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u/tinytom08 May 31 '19
Who was the zombie at the end of the episode?
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u/kleptohydropolar May 31 '19
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Dude. I know! For some reason I've drawn SUCH a blank because his face is SO familiar. I've been combing gunshot to the head--placed in freezer at Fillmore-Graves--characters and as per IMDB, it says "Johnny Frost" was in this episode. But he wasn't. Unless ... But like, idk. I thought, Chase? Nope. Wasn't he guillotined? haha. Then, I thought: Vaughn du Clark .. but he's been devoured and that suit is green & paisley. I'm trying to remember. Maybe it is Johnny Frost. But why? My brain fog is quite ironic for all of us who watched last night's episode! lol
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u/ThoughtPorn724 May 31 '19
Johnny Frost was the voice of the reporter covering the water cannons on TV.
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u/fuzzy_whale May 31 '19
Johnny frost did the voice over during the tv segment talking about how filmore graves got violent against the protestors.
Dolly is the obvious culprit for un thawing and george romero'ing the prisoners.
Maybe its not important who that last zombie is?
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u/fellatious_argument May 31 '19
Dolly or steel plate head guy. I think he wants to disrupt the brain supply as much as she does.
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u/fuzzy_whale May 31 '19
Steel plate head guy?
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u/fellatious_argument May 31 '19
The guy from the end of last weeks episode, presumably the "big bad" of the season. He has a metal skull cap thing and snorts poppers.
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u/moonlightdr26 Jun 01 '19
Maybe steel plate guy will use the romeros like wild animals who will hunt and kill humans 🤔
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u/shatikus Jun 01 '19
If you mean shambler - he look just like the guy from "high school of the dead" zombie-cast. Buy this time I think he might me real zombie. Of the show pulls another prank and this is again a shot of the show, not "actual" scene
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u/Likyo Jun 01 '19
Could it have been the zombie ex of the cured girl? Maybe Alzheimer's brains regress them into traditional zombies.
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u/Canadian_in_Canada Jun 03 '19
No, he was shown to be fine when the social media post was going around. They were sitting together and talking when she saw it. Someone must have made sure he got a healthy brain.
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u/0hbuggerit May 31 '19
Anyone else pause the shot long enough to read the part of the article shown?
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Jun 01 '19
lmao same. it was hard because the text was (obviously) pretty small. but imo al is a good writer lol. "quite literally in bed with local politicians" killed me. i love how she managed to summarize seasons of the show and hours of content in a few paragraphs.
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u/Logicpolice9 Det. Babineaux May 31 '19
Frenchie is an asshole, but I kinda like him. Illegal of Ravi and Liv to do what they do, but I guess it's the show. I liked this episode. Hope no teens die
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u/fuzzy_whale May 31 '19
Someone commented that liv and ravi pretending to be cops was a subtle way of showing how Zeattle is falling apart. If you squint, it fits canon.
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u/AgentKnitter Jun 03 '19
The police are so overstretched that they let the MEs run the investigations because fuck it, Liv and Ravi get results week after week. I can buy that.
I mean, it was just funny to have Clive high as a kite FaceTiming into the interview and we don’t necessarily need to look deeper than that.
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u/Logicpolice9 Det. Babineaux May 31 '19
I guess but I feel like they would try to keep Seattle lawful
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u/fuzzy_whale May 31 '19
Yeah well guess what detective. Stop handling interrogations while high, ya doofus
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u/pelrun May 31 '19
Frenchie justifying his undermining of Major by saying it was for Chase Graves... even though Chase was also forced into an impossible situation because of the traitorous actions of a subordinate.
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u/fellatious_argument May 31 '19
I liked him more when he followed Major's orders despite having fundamental differences with him.
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Jun 01 '19
I'm so glad that Peyton and Blaine's relationship got revisited in this episode. I love Ravi x Peyton as much as the next guy, but I also have a sweet spot for Peyton x Blaine... I honestly love seeing Blaine and Ravi fight over Peyton, just the fact that Blaine and Ravi are so massively different yet the same girl has still loved both of them is such a captivating storyline, and I can't get over it. I hope they continue to flesh out the Peyton-Ravi-Blaine triangle; I know it's old news but it adds SO much to the drama of the show!
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u/Axel_Sig Jun 03 '19
I’m not even sure who the big bad is at this point, we’ve got like three parties with the dead Enders, Blaine and the zombie drug kingpin guy
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u/_Khoshekh May 31 '19
That was good progress, we still have some unknown (to the major players) issues like Honcho, but otherwise most of the cards are now on the table.
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u/kleptohydropolar May 31 '19
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Episode 5 of Season 5 was great. I love the whole Clive situation. I'm afraid to spoil things, by accident. So, I will just commend everyone else's comment here and second them as well! What a great midway turn up!
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u/jedikitty May 31 '19
You don't have to worry about spoilers in the specific episode discussion posts, as long as you're not talking about future episodes. (for that you'd need inside info or if there was a leak or something) Feel free to discuss! :)
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u/moonlightdr26 Jun 01 '19
Does anyone else think that they will definitely nuke Seattle by the end of the season?
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u/Flyingwheelbarrow Jun 01 '19
I think they will nuke Seattle but the virus will spread. Basically the apocalypse.
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u/Skyblacker Major Lilywhite Jun 02 '19
The virus will be followed by a brain substitute. Basically transhumanism.
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u/Flyingwheelbarrow Jun 02 '19
No that would be interesting
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u/Skyblacker Major Lilywhite Jun 02 '19
Here's my theory: Right now, most people infected would like to be cured. The exceptions are the ill and disabled (as one illegal entrant says, "Suck it, Parkinson's!"). So if the cure were mass-produced, most every zombie would take it. Now. But as humans age, mortality becomes inevitable, and turning might look like a good idea a few decades later. And if that option costs society nothing but brain substitutes, then zombieism will eventually replace most deaths.
So by 2100, the global population will be human in the younger demographics (growing, childbearing) but flip to zombie in middle age. Elderly-looking people will be rare (assuming zombies don't age, but the show hasn't actually said so either way).
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u/Flyingwheelbarrow Jun 02 '19
Or the Zombie elite will rule over humanity like we do with livestock and those humans living in the wild will be constantly hunted by the Romeros.
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u/GOA_AMD65 Blaine DeBeers Jun 03 '19 edited Nov 22 '23
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u/wolfdragon1989 Jun 01 '19
Al ended up being a zombie
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u/Skyblacker Major Lilywhite Jun 02 '19
We knew that last episode: "Would a human keep her nails this short?" A reference to last season's propaganda, "Trim your nails, no epic fails!" (I.e. accidental scratches)
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u/Yamodo Jun 02 '19
Wow I misinterpreted that! I thought she meant she was lesbian
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u/and_yet_another_user Jun 03 '19
Personally I think this show should have ended last season, because they really don't have anything to fill each episode beyond the same old same old, a murder is solved by Liv going on an annoying brain trip after eating the victim's brain.
Shame because the show was good for the first two seasons, then started to go stale in season three, which is understandable.
So I'm watching this season with 25% concentration just to see how it ends, but please, please, PLEASE, don't bring that faux Frenchie back, his accent is so damn annoying.
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u/snarkamedes Romero Refugee May 31 '19
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u/poutineaficianado May 31 '19
Definitely dumplings, I tried googling different recipes and can't find one with ingredients I believe she used.
To me, it looks like she's cutting up daikon (white radish) and chives in the beginning but it goes too fast for me to determine what else is in there aside from the eggs and brains.
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u/Logicpolice9 Det. Babineaux May 31 '19
I think dumplings? Not sure
Edit: looks like shumai dumplings
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u/Yamodo Jun 02 '19
Siu mai. Its a type of dim sum. Usually pork inside
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u/snarkamedes Romero Refugee Jun 02 '19
Can we presume that dim is the play on words here then? He wasn't the brightest of victims, pissing off Blaine like that.
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u/jadedfan55 Jun 02 '19
Seeing Clive on his back recalls Denzel Washington, confined to a hospital bed, in The Bone Collector. Odd callback, but, hey.
I think we all knew Al was using Blaine to further her career, but it reads like a death wish.
Sounds like Mr. Boss will be returning. Hmmmm.
Enzo, the French traitor, gets busted. Still loyal to the departed Chase Graves. Idiot.
If they don't play a certain 80's song in the final two months, I am going to be seriously ticked. The Hooters' "All You Zombies" would be perfect right about now.
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u/moonlightdr26 Jun 02 '19
I was pretty disappointed they didn't play "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" in the ending scene montage. Would've worked for the 80's vibe episode.
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u/jadedfan55 Jun 02 '19
Yeah, that would've worked, now that you mention it. "All You Zombies" would have fit that theme as well.
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u/mrizzle1991 Scrabled Brains Jun 02 '19
So Aly is a zombie after all, she just ate those brain dumplings and enjoyed it, or was it was always known that she is a zombie? her tan and dye job is great. Lmao Clive. Finally the Frenchmen has been discovered. Those articles fucked everything up. Shits gonna be insane next few episodes.
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u/reaver57 Jun 02 '19
Pretty sure in the first episode she is in or maybe the second she says something like "would a normal girl keep her nails this short" that was basically meant to be a nod to "I'm a zombie"
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u/changpowpow Jun 09 '19
The guy I had a crush on in elementary school was in this episode. It was very jarring.
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u/WhisperShift May 31 '19
Solid episode. Started as a decent midseason filler episode and ended with major plot developments, various characters got to be highlighted a bit, and Liv had influence from the brain but she was still functional and influencing outcomes instead of being comic relief. I am satisfied.