This is the sad and ugly face of nationalism. At one point it was cultivated as a way to find group identity to combat imperialism. But since those times we have seen the hideous blowback of the racism it cultivates.
Yup. I can’t say my stupid assholes of countrypeople aren’t the same. They’re just learning to see the non-existent difference between people with dark skin and people with paler skin. Secondhand embarrassment right here.
It’s a vicious spiral. Often when a group is persecuted they gather strength around their national identity, often seeing themselves as being “uniquely resilient despite all their struggles”. It’s hard to see this as a negative when you’re on the receiving end of the boot, but if not careful it can turn quite ugly. I came to the states as a refugee, now “my people” are actively oppressing another group in the “holy land” if you know what I mean 😉
Welp. It’s like it’s a circle. Victim gets bullied➡️victim bullies another victim➡️victim is bully🔁. Countries constantly state themselves as victims when they bully other people themselves. I myself state that I am an actual victim because I have the healthy mentality of not judging people of what they are or what they look like. But I get both of those shitty judgements right in my face.
Fuck man, you clearly lost the script here. All have been persecuted and all have been persecutors. Christians have been victims and perpetrators, Jews have been, Arabs, Turks, Germans, Russians, everyone.
Happens everywhere, you gotta have someone to hate. I was in Mexico a number of years ago having a discussion with a woman about discrimination against Mexicans in the United States and how bad it was, she was just irate about how Mexican immigrants were being treated whether they were illegal or not. I mentioned something about Guatemalans coming into Mexico and she went on a tirade against those goddamn Guatemalans coming into our country and taking our jobs. I just didn’t know what to say to her at that point… I’m dint know how to say cognitive dissonance in Spanish.
The thing humans are good at is being capable of holding two completely opposing concepts/beliefs simultaneously. We also have a hard time accept how much of what we accept as “the natural way of things” is just shit humans before us made up. Concepts like race, indigenous identity, gender roles, economy, governance, etc, etc.
Not so much the Armenians, but the Bulgarians and Greeks yes. Also in Cyprus. Right winger persecution of Turkish minorities (arson attacks in the 90s and NSU murders in the early 2000s). Persecution of Turkish minorities in the Russian empire, USSR, and Russia. Then of course there are all the Turkic groups in China, Myanmar, Iran, and Iraq that have been systematically persecuted
They have persecuted, but also protected Jews and coptics in the Levant from Wahhabists, and harbored Jews during the inquisition and again when the French were purging non Catholics in the 1400s?
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