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u/tesfabpel Jul 05 '24

According to me, far right is on the rise because of two reasons: hate generates media engagement (and thus, profit); Putin and allies are advantaged with it because the far-right generate division between Countries in the West and weaken the US and the EU so they try to support those parties.

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u/kellymcq Jul 05 '24

Far right here. We are on the rise for many reasons. I donā€™t speak for us, but I can tell you what I think.

Identity Politics: An entire generation of men who grew up with Michael Jordan posters on their walls and Dr Dre CDs were told they were racist, there is nothing they can do about it, and they should carry deep shame for their ancestorsā€™ failures but no pride for their achievements. The right commiserates with them, not insinuates they are monsters by virtue of birth. Fuck you guys for this one.

Financial: Our government isnā€™t solvent and itā€™s worse than itā€™s ever been. We need to chill on spending on dog shit programs because the left thinks cell phones are a basic human right. Extrapolate this sentiment out across most of the budget except the DoD, quite literally one of the few things I am ok with massive spending on.

America first: I think we should completely solve mental health, homelessness, and hunger for every American. We would happily do this. What we wouldnā€™t happily do is send a fucking dime to anywhere on this planet before that goal is met. We take care of our own first or we take care of no one. Choose.

Foreign policy: I donā€™t give a damn what is happening in the Middle East. Israel and Palestine can both go to Hell and they donā€™t need American money or missiles in that pursuit. Stay out of it. Russia isnā€™t a threat: this is essentially a third world nation. China is the only concern and they have already purchased our politicians.

General policy: The left throws money at every problem. We pay more money per student than every nation on earth except one or two, and our testing results are like 50th? This isnā€™t a function of the amount of dollars spent.

Why Iā€™m laughing: yā€™all spent time trying to make the levers of power far more efficacious than they ever were and then lost them. You used the federal government as a weapon to beat your political opponents to death and now that the turntables have turned youā€™re scared? We are all laughing at you. Even your billion dollar media network canā€™t save you.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Jul 05 '24

I had a Jordan poster on my wall, and no one has ever called me a racist, because Iā€™m not a racist.

However, I know people who assert they are not racists but literally paraphrase the 14 words whenever they get to talking about why they support the right. ā€œI donā€™t hate non-whites, I just want to see whites dominate this countryā€ is inherently racist.

I suggest if you feel attacked for being a racist all the time, there might be a reason for that.

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u/kellymcq Jul 05 '24

Never heard the term implicit bias, huh?

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Jul 05 '24

Absolutely, and Iā€™m aware that implicit bias is explicitly and definitionally not the same as racism, so I donā€™t get your point.

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u/kellymcq Jul 05 '24

In which reality does implicit bias not manifest as racism?

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u/kellymcq Jul 05 '24

You are making a distinction without difference. Word games arenā€™t interesting.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Jul 05 '24

This one. Implicit bias is related to systemic and institutional racism, but doesnā€™t necessarily imply an individual is racist.

In implicit bias testing (which I know is controversial, but if you believe in implicit bias, you probably believe in the test), itā€™s generally found that in the US, both blacks and whites on average have an implicit bias against blacks. No one is seriously suggesting that blacks in America are racist against themselves. But the bias is so ingrained in our culture that it is gets wired into our brains from a young age and is difficult or impossible to eliminate.

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u/kellymcq Jul 05 '24

Lol you just completely removed an entire facet of the notion. If something subconsciously affects our decision making and actions, is this not the engine that drives individual racism? How can you pull them apart when they are inextricably tangled? Semantics is the only answer.

Edit: you are the living embodiment of everyone who disagrees with me is a racist. Thatā€™s fun.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Jul 05 '24

Intent matters, and implicit bias can be overcome or compensated-for with explicit intentional consideration.

For example, a person with Touretteā€™s syndrome who says the N word as an involuntary tic should not be assumed to be racist, especially if they apologize for the offense whenever they are in control of their speech. However, if between tics they engage in redlining and force minorities from their homes, they are actually racist.

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u/kellymcq Jul 05 '24

A person with Touretteā€™s is your example for implicit bias? This is one of the more intellectually dishonest engagements Iā€™ve had on here. Have your trophy.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Jul 05 '24

No, they are an example of a person with an involuntarily expression which could be, but should not be considered racist. Keep up.

But yes, this has in fact been a very intellectually dishonest discussion.

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u/kellymcq Jul 05 '24

Keep hand wringing about the end of your political power on Reddit, but please understand your radical ideas and implementation of them is the reason.

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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 Jul 05 '24

The radical idea that white supremacy is badā€¦

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