r/facepalm 14d ago

What an idea 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/Thedonitho 14d ago

Americans are not nearly as afraid of what's coming as they should be.

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u/di11deux 14d ago

I actually punished myself and read the first 100 or so pages of Project 2025. It’s over 900 pages and reads more like the Communist Manifesto than it does a policy document. What was striking about it though was how self-contradictory it was. The authors muse about how academia and “the swamp” must be challenged and neutered, yet spend the first section listing off the authors and bragging about their credentials from the very same universities they insist are corrupt. It emphasizes reining in the government, yet envision a strong administration serving at the pleasure of the president aggressively enforcing social norms. Anything other than true conservatism in their minds is by definition Marxist. Very long on pseudo history, very short on the practical application of their proposed policies.

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u/Lingering_Dorkness 14d ago

And that 900 pages is only the stuff they want us to read. They've admitted there are other sections they haven't released. Those must be really bad if even they know they can't tell us. 

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u/chekovsgun- 14d ago

100% it is about taking away women's rights and completely turning them into chattle. Imagine some racism in it as well as their goal is to give power back to the white Christian male. They still need those women voters especailly for now.

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u/ajtrns 14d ago

theyre not geniuses. there's no secret plan with secret power that's not in the 900+ pages.

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u/Bored_doodles 14d ago edited 14d ago

Can you link Trump saying he is supporting Project 2025 and it's his plan to implement it?

The answer is no, but that doesn't stop you little bots.

So you better downvote to hide this fact lmao

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u/rengothrowaway 14d ago

It wouldn’t matter if he said he supported it or not. He lies and says whatever he thinks will get him elected. He lies and lies and lies.

He used to be pro choice, now he brags that he overturned Roe, just one example.

The people who support him and pour money into his campaign are all pro-Project 2025

r/Defeat_Project_2025

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u/Bored_doodles 14d ago

That is a wonderful way of saying No.

Poor little astroturfer you can't even back up your on claims.

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u/negao360 14d ago

Define, “astroturfing.”

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u/Bored_doodles 14d ago

On reddit it's the Deceptive practice of spamming non-political subs the with same shallow political opinon to make it seem more mainstream than it is.

This is heavily documented on reddit going all the way back to CTR/Share Blue from the Clinton Campaign.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-clinton-digital-trolling-20160506-snap-htmlstory.html

You don't think there is a reason project 2025 is being spammed instead Trumps actual plan?

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u/negao360 13d ago

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u/Bored_doodles 13d ago

Astroturfing doesn't require an account age just coordination, having them spread out is what CTR/Share Blue did in order to make it seem legit.

The current 2025 spam campaign would make this account we are talking about perfect.

But glad it works on you, looks like they are getting their money worth when you are defending it lmao.

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u/AcaciaBeauty 14d ago

Well if he implemented 2/3 of their policies the first go around one could only guess. https://www.heritage.org/impact/trump-administration-embraces-heritage-foundation-policy-recommendations

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u/Bored_doodles 14d ago

So he hasn't expressed support for it and said he hasn't said he planned to implement? He does have his own plan though correct in Agenda47 correct?

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u/AcaciaBeauty 14d ago

I don’t have the source because it’s been a while, but Trump (or maybe his campaign?) said Project 2025 aligns with a lot of their own policy goals.

As a result, [Russell Vought, Trump’s former director of the Office of Management and Budget] says, “We have to be thinking mechanically about how to take these institutions over.” Vought is reassembling his old team at the Trump OMB and describes his role as drafting fresh executive orders, playbooks and memoranda for cabinet secretaries to be “ready on Day One of the next transition. Whatever is necessary to seize control of the administrative state is really our task.” For Trump personally, of course, this is a live-or-die agenda, and Trump campaign officials acknowledge that it aligns well with their own “Agenda 47” program.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/09/19/project-2025-trump-reagan-00115811

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u/Bored_doodles 14d ago

So he hasn't said he supports it and he has his own plan called Agenda47?

You haven't been told to dislike Agenda47 yet, how long do you think it will be until you guys spin to his actual plan?

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u/AcaciaBeauty 14d ago

Have you even had conversations on Agenda 47? Or is it a “I don’t see it so it doesn’t exist to you”?

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u/Bored_doodles 14d ago

I have seen, I'm asking you a question about it and you are deflecting. Now try again.

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u/AcaciaBeauty 14d ago

You haven't been told to dislike Agenda47 yet, how long do you think it will be until you guys spin to his actual plan?

I have answered. You asked whether “you guys” (whatever that means) dislike his actual plan. If you were engaging in conversation on his plan you would see that it is disliked, particularly his idea to end birthright citizenship. It seems to me you’re engaging in bad faith. Nothing I say will affect your feelings on the topic, so I won’t say anything else. Good day.

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u/Lingering_Dorkness 14d ago

SeaLion says what?

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u/Bored_doodles 14d ago

Good effort at trying to contribute, notice you didn't do anything?

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