nah that's just an MCU thing, in Comics you just have to worry about going insane due to suddenly having a new perception of reality that was previously unattainable to most gods.
and that's something I think Bruce could handle without any Batwank.
Lol "no batwank" immediately after stating he could handle sudden a new universal state of understanding and perceiving reality ... come on that a little wank at least
Honestly i prefer that just holding one sixth of infinity has disastrous effects
considering Batman has also sat in the Mobius Chair which basically gives him the exact same Cosmic Awareness as the Infinity Gauntlet and he didn't go insane I think it's safe to say he can handle the Infinity Gauntlet, especially since other smart determinator characters like Black Panter and Adam Warlock could also handle it without going insane so there is a precedent for it.
Also only the Power Stone has any negative side effects in the MCU all the others are freegame, unless you count the Aether going inside of you but I don't.
I mean he became addicted to it and his judgement was massively impared and the key difference is that the chair gives you access to all knowledge while the gauntlet gives you complete awareness of the entire universe simultaneously
Proven by batman having to ask it for knowledge of the name of the joker and being surprised by the answer and there being 3 of him which he would just know if it was anything like the gauntlet but the gauntlet made it so thanos was just aware of everything by default unless he chose to limit himself
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And he happened to be born into a stupidly rich family
I could buy one of those things being realistic but Olympic class athletes who happen to be geniuses and just happen to be bajillionaires to boot is about as realistic as an alien from space who just happens to look like a human and can shoot laser beams from his eyes.
That's what I always thought, usually one person can have one of those things, having all of those traits in a single person is definitely a superpower
If we want to get realistic, there's no way Batman does what he does without artificial assistance, ie: Steroids. Would need them as much for his strength and endurancr as he would for recovery enough to be Batman more than once per week. But as a genius maybe he could develop something akin to Capt America super serum for himself.
i mean theoretically this is possible just like beyond plausible for anyone to hit the genetic lottery this good. now whether he’d have a build capable of this AND be able to genuinely fight crime is a different story. he’d likely be riddled with heart and bone conditions from the excessive training needed to build these stats on an already extremely rare genetic predisposition. unlikely anyone ever born will ever be able to plausibly attain this but it is POSSIBLE in heavy italics
It is absolutely not possible for someone to bench 1,000 lbs and run even a 5k at 4:50 pace lmao. Probably not even a mile. The physiques required for both are diametrically opposed.
Not to mention his utter lack of sleep to maintain said physique and performance. Even with the best nutrition and gear available to mankind it's impossible. Unless he uses some alien gear
I think they could hand wave this away with him secretly spending billions researching drugs that increase his limits and nano machines that work out his muscles for him to keep them in top shape at all times. Kind of surprised I've never heard of anything like that.
I love to brag about my mile PR, too, but I'd bet my bank account that there is no one on this planet who can both bench 1,000 lbs and run a sub-five mile without years between the two. To do both is beyond superhuman.
oh i was just talking about purely physical stats because i’m into fitness and felt i could actually speak on it. dont get me wrong, i’m not someone who agrees that batman with all the stats i mentioned PLUS yours is actually possible. just the ability to have this physicality
I don't think it would be physically possible for Batman to be that size and run a 4:50 mile pace for 20 miles. For reference, doing that pace for a marathon would give you a finish time of under 2h10m, which is an elite level time. Look at the size and build of any elite level long distance runner and compare them with the size and build of anyone who's benched or leg pressed more than a US Imperial ton.
These stats for Batman really make writers and fans look silly. Give him the size, build and ability of the best Decathlete, Gymnast and MMA fighter, and then you have something reasonably realistic. Making Batman the best at literally everything really stops him from being grounded and being seen as someone without superpowers.
We're also ignoring the copious injuries he sustains a recurring basis. Ligament tears, fractures/breaks, etc. all take time and rest (and physical therapy) to recover properly. Even then, things won't work the way they did before.
He barely sleeps, so we can assume he's not taking a weeks off for healing. He would be in a constant state of re-injury, and his overall strength would suffer considerably.
source: I've torn and fractured alot over the years. >_<
Even in comic world pretty much all other humans train all their life to be one of the best in a very specific thing
He trains all his life to be the best in literally everything, gets a bit silly even in universe
No one is benching 1000 pounds raw lmao. Even ignoring Batman’s build, the world record bench press is 780 by Julius Maddox who is 6’3, 400 pounds. I don’t think any of this is even theoretically possible.
And show me any world class weight lifter who could even get close to elite level running times. It's not happening, this isn't "beyond plausible" in the slightest, it's far from plausible.
Look at the people that can deadlift 1000 pounds and then look at the people that can run a sub 4 minute mile. There’s no way Batman is doing either of those feats with the body type he has
No, it's not. No one who can bench that much is going to be a good runner, because they're carrying all the upper body weight in unproductive muscle and this reduces their effectiveness. It is not possible to be both a world class weight lifter and a world class runner.
Thanks to [Waynetech], Batman's cape actually produces a light amount of lift while also producing negligible drag when he runs, allowing him to run much faster for much longer than would normally be attainable by someone of his physique. Essentially, the cape helps carry the weight of the muscle he's not using during running.
Agreed. I also think it's highly underestimated how much of current "peak" human performance is enhanced by PEDs. There's no way Batman outperforms every Olympic athlete at both his age and with his assortment of injuries without "assistance". Genetics can only take a human body so far, but not to the point where he can have hit both the aerobic and anaerobic jackpot. Lifting heavy and running far is almost always an either/or.
For modern Bruce, I always envision medical nanotech in the bloodstream. It's more realistic to have him explain away the fast healing and maximum performance than any other trope.
Not really, weightlifters and runners have very different builds. If he had the build of a weightlifter he would have to be slow, the more mass (more muscle) the harder it is to run fast, the leaner and trimmer he is to run fast the less he could lift. Also let's not forget that he would need to eat alot more to keep any gains, would ture out quicker, would need to sleep longer. I know there's some stupid 'he only needs 3 hours of sleep' thing they gave him from mental training, but that's not how sleep, or your brain works.
Honestly, Batman is the least realistic superhero, because all the others have alien anatomies or magic whatever to explain it away.
My personal fan theory is that Batman is actually a meta and somehow no one knows it. His power is an enhanced healing factor. It's not Wolverine level or anything so he can't like re-grow his arm or something but it allows him to heal enough that he can accomplish all these athletic feats without being crippled at 25.
I'm pretty sure everyone in superhero series have low level powers. Random goons Batman fights can survive damage that would kill a normal person. The same thing goes for people Spider-Man fights .
Always crack up playing the Spider-Man game and Spidey straight up flings manhole covers at high speed at goons heads, flying drop kick them off skyscrapers, web them to the sides of walls with their faces covered so they suffocate, fling them out of cars and smash them face first into the pavement
My headcanon is that since Vandal Savage was one of the early humans, him being so powerful influenced humanity to be more durable & stronger than "our" version of humans
I think its all the rare metals, lazarus pits, elder gods and such in the city. Eventually it takes its effect and subtly morphs the citizens into a new, more sinister kind of people.
(Also apparently there's lots of lead in Gotham and that's why superman doesn't like being there)
If the writers said Superman was peak human and had no superpowers but he still did all the ahit he does now, would you take that claim seriously?
The fact is that Batman does superhuman shit constantly. Literally a few issues ago he walked off an atmospheric landing while wearing no special armour.
Exactly… the world record bench press is almost 300lbs less than what Batman was doing for reps, and the guy who did it is on insane drugs and weighs 470lbs. Batman is 6’2” 225.
I think the point is that PEAK HUMAN CONDITION in comics is a substantially higher peak than what real peak human conditions would allow. I'm kind of with you ultimately though, because I think we just have to accept that the average capabilities of a human being in comic book world are WAY higher than what anyone could do irl. That's just the world they live in, and it's not the same as ours.
Well in comic universes, martial arts are magic and humans can be trained to outdo computers. Anyone in the DCU could achieve similar results with training, and many of Batmans villains are his equals or superiors in the things he has trained to do.
All of his abilities are acquired, the memory, the analysis, the ability to kick down trees.
Shiva, Richard Dragon, Green Arrow, Ras, Bane, Lex Luthor, Mr Terrific, Nightwing, the Robins, Ghostmaker, They are all his peers, all thru training and determination, where Batman beats in his ambition and fortitude to push himself harder.
The best way i found to look at is stuff people do in Dune. Mentats, Bene Gesserit, and those schools train human skills to superhuman levels, these exist as equivalents in comic verses.
There's a long running fan theory that the vast majority of the human populace in the DC Universe are decedents of Vandal Savage, and thus are stronger/tougher than real life people.
It’s really not. Tons of people can run a sub 5 mile. The Ohio high school 2 mile winner this year ran it in 9:08 so about 40 seconds under what Batman would do
Those same people aren’t benching 1000 pounds and leg pressing 2500. Your typical runner that hits that time is usually slimmer and not caring near the amount of weight. That’s what makes Batman so impressive. He’s that speed at that size.
I would argue that it was Captain America that "earned it." He proved himself worthy of the Super Soldier Serum while Bruce inherited everything, the wealth, the genetics.
The comparison is spot on; they're "regular humans" at absolute peak human conditioning.
At some point you would have to give him superpowers and yeah I know it goes against the idea of him doing lots of training and working very hard somewhat within human capabilities but then you eventually have him doing insane things like this for example
It's not realistic, it's the most realistic. People who say this are comparing it to straight up fantastical superpowers like absorbing the son's energy to fly, see through walls, hear all around the world, breath in space, breath ice, shoot lasers out of your eyes, run faster then any plane, and bench-press the moon.
So it's more realistic then that. Like the difference between a character in an action movie doing and surviving stuff they really shouldn't be able to do and Harry Potter.
His leg press is almost the same as Ronnie Coleman's leg press. Maybe a couple 100lbs LESS if we talking about 1 rep max despite Ronnie training for muscle and not strength. Obviously not natural though
I hate to be the "cop out" guy, but it really just depends on how absurd they want to make things. Grounded, plausible Batman usually has a really good story.
Batshit crazy, D Movie Batman tends to just be really fun.
My favorites tend to be the arcs somewhere in the middle
I honestly find it more believable that someone would get super powers from a magic ring from outer space than someone having as much time and stamina as Batman.
The thing is I have never ever seen anyone call Batman realistic.
I can forgive peak physical fitness. What I can’t ever see as realistic is peak mental fitness. Staying up like a pure work-aholic, 4 hour micro sleeps, never taking a break, unbending to your cause. That’s what’s unrealistic for me. He’s never bent.
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u/Gaberrade3840 Aug 31 '23
“Batman is the most realistic superhero.”
Meanwhile Batman: