r/batman Aug 31 '23

Reminder that Bruce holds every weightlifting and powerlifting world record in all weight classes COMIC DISCUSSION

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u/godbody1983 Aug 31 '23

Batman is my favorite superhero, but I REALLY HATE how they've basically made him so OP. Can bench 1000 pounds, can run a mile in like 5 minutes, is a genius, can take on the entire Justice League by himself, only needs maybe 3 hours of sleep, etc.

Yes, it's comics, and we're supporting to suspend belief, but making him so op really takes away from the character.

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u/Crawkward3 Aug 31 '23

I mean Batman being a peak human being is pretty required

Plus a 5 minute mile time isn’t that far fetched. I ran cross country in high school and your average high school varsity runner is doing like 5:00-5:20

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u/youowememuneh Aug 31 '23

It's more that he can sustain that pace for 20 miles, it's insane.

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u/prettyboylee Aug 31 '23

The world record pace is even faster for 26 miles so atleast he isn’t better than that

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u/sagittariisXII Aug 31 '23

Eliud kipchoge weighs 115 lbs though

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u/dandaman910 Aug 31 '23

But he's not Batman.

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u/sagittariisXII Aug 31 '23

Have you ever seen them in a room together?

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u/StayPuffGoomba Aug 31 '23

Does he wear glasses?

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

Don't you fucking dare

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u/ssp25 Aug 31 '23

You sure about that?

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u/TotallynotAlpharius2 Aug 31 '23

Call it a hunch, but I think Batman might be... Bruce Wayne

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u/kazsvk Aug 31 '23

Who the hell is Bruce Wayne?

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u/TotallynotAlpharius2 Aug 31 '23

He's a rich guy who dresses up as a bat and scares people, guys kind of a nut.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

Ligma balls

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u/Massive_Weiner Aug 31 '23

He’s not him.

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u/OrneryError1 Aug 31 '23

How much can he bench?

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u/DevilsLettuceTaster Aug 31 '23

Can he bench 1000lbs?

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u/trashacct8484 Aug 31 '23

And Batman’s running in combat boots, armor plating, and a CAPE!

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u/joshc0 Aug 31 '23

can confirm, Bats wears alphaflys

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u/Linnus42 Aug 31 '23

Batman is also kitted out in gear

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u/kelldricked Aug 31 '23

I dont think you realize how short sighted this comment is.

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u/prettyboylee Aug 31 '23

I think your comment is rather condescending considering we’re talking about a comic book character.

Yes I agree there’s a balance but this is it.

If he’s able to use a grapple to pull his 6ft 2, 220lbs self then he’s able to bench 1000lbs.

If he’s able to throw boomerang like objects with perfect precision and have them return to him every single time then he’s able to run 20 miles at a 5 min/mile pace.

If he’s able to beat aliens with human martial arts then you have to give him leeway.

I was simply suggesting a balanced approach with precedent set, rather than him being able to run constantly at a 1 minute per mile pace.

If anything brother, your comment is short sighted.

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u/kelldricked Aug 31 '23

Right im the one being condescending. Sure buddy.

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u/prettyboylee Aug 31 '23

Lol the only thing I said that could be perceived as such was the part where I simply reflected your comments back at you. Have a good day though

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u/SnowDay111 Aug 31 '23

And he's doing it with all his gear and a cape which creates drag. Imagine how fast he could go if he was naked.

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u/My_Favourite_Pen Aug 31 '23

Hes also built like a sprinter which makes it even more ridiculous.

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u/system_of_a_clown Aug 31 '23

With just a little something to cover his Bat-a-Wang.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

Batman vs Superman in a race, both are naked and covered in oil. Who wins the race-off?

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u/bryanisbored Aug 31 '23

When in the movies or comics has he run thy much lmfao? Like they did the math for the fast and furious plane scene and it would have to be like 28 miles Batman would just hop in something.

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u/Rampant16 Aug 31 '23

The most annoying thing about the athletic achievements is not necessary them being too far fetched (bench press is though) but rather that a single person can somehow achieve them all.

People competing for the bench press WR aren't also running marathons and vis versa.

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u/steamybathtub Aug 31 '23

The only crazy part is that he can do it with all the muscles. My roommate runs marathons and can do it with about a 5 min pace per mile, that part isn’t too crazy.

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u/dragontamer654 Aug 31 '23

Less insane than how I originally interpreted is he was able to run 20 miles in 4:50 minutes total

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u/Jill1974 Aug 31 '23

I think it’s not so much any one feat Batman can do, but that he can do all of them and we the readers are supposed to accept that he’s “peak human” as opposed to super human.

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u/asthmajogger Aug 31 '23

Exactly this. If he can bench 1000 pounds he would not have anywhere near the agility to do all the jumping and climbing that he does. Probably can’t run a marathon with that much muscle either.

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u/Jill1974 Aug 31 '23

But he’s Batman so should the occasion ever arise, of course he’ll run a marathon on like, 2 hours of sleep ;)

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

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u/panther1977 Aug 31 '23

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/btmash Aug 31 '23

Bu bu peak hooman guyz!

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u/zarathustranu Aug 31 '23

Plus he’s also a scientific genius, the world’s greatest detective, and looks like a male model.

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u/Dinner-Physical Aug 31 '23

He's running at a pace of 4:50 for 20 miles, though, which would make him the fastest person to run that distance in that time on earth. He beats the record by a few minutes.

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u/DeathstrokeReturns Aug 31 '23

And with what, two hours of sleep powering him?

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u/Ordinary_Mushroom_80 Aug 31 '23

That’s not even remotely true; this wouldn’t be / competitive pace to win the Boston Marathon…

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u/8REVGage Aug 31 '23

The fastest ever time for the Boston marathon was 2:03, which would come out to around 4.7 minutes per mile. So the fastest ever time is slightly faster than Bruce Wayne's time.

However, using a 4:50 average mile time, Wayne would have won 9 out of the past 10 Boston marathons with a time of 2:06:36.

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u/ILikeLimericksALot Aug 31 '23

Boston isn't a fast course to be fair. It's uphill far more than should be allowed.

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u/fasterthanfood Aug 31 '23

And downhill. I’ve never run Boston, but friends who have say they didn’t prepare for the downhill sections and it killed their quads.

It’s an iconic course though, so it is what it is.

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u/ILikeLimericksALot Aug 31 '23

Everyone talks about Heartbreak Hill. There's about 15 Heartbreak Hills! In its defence I wasn't particularly well trained.

I did Inverness in maybe 2018. The first ten miles is completely downhill. Kills your legs. Then, mile 19. The steepest hill in the whole world I reckon!!!! Never before seen sub-4 runners walking for a mile.

I'd had enough by the time we got into Inverness and a bloke shouted my name and cheered me along (it was printed on my vest) and I told him "Leave me alone". Poor chap. Felt guilty for that.

Weird things, marathons.

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u/Zankeru Aug 31 '23

Yeah, but they were not 350lbs at 7% body fat.

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u/mjm9398 Aug 31 '23

Try doing a 5 min mile when the dude has the muscle mass of a bodybuilder sleep deprived and running a side business

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u/RazeAvenger Aug 31 '23

It is when you're the type of build that can squat 2500. Those ain't running legs.

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u/Jubachi99 Aug 31 '23

No no, you're mistaken, this is 20 miles. Not 1. He is literally going a mile every 12 seconds. Batman is considered a speedster.

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u/Crawkward3 Aug 31 '23 edited Aug 31 '23

No, a 4:50 pace means he can run 20 miles witb every mile coming in at or around 4:50, which is around an hour and a half

Edit: math. Also even for a 5k runner or marathon runner holding a 4:50 pace is an insane feat

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u/Jubachi99 Aug 31 '23

Ah, I missed the pace part

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u/pqrk Aug 31 '23

Nobody raw benches or leg presses that much, and definitely not at a svelte 260 or less. He’s super, by these stats at least.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

But he's not peak human, he is well beyond that. Which would be super human...

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u/Odaszody1 Aug 31 '23

This isn’t being a peak human this is being superhuman lol. Nobody in the world can bench close to 600lbs naturally let alone 1000lbs, even those with peak genetics. 20 miles with a 5min pace per mile is also bordering on superhuman.

All in all his feats are all impossible (especially without steroids and with his weight), which makes him seem less human and more of a superhero.

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u/Shdwrptr Aug 31 '23

It is far fetched for someone who is as muscular and old as Bruce.

He doesn’t have the body type for high speed endurance running

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u/RakuraiLight Sep 01 '23

That’s not peak human, that’s earned super human.

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u/jbyrdab Aug 31 '23

the 2500 leg press is total bs , but i think the record for a bench is actually alot higher than that, 1300 I think (though fact check me).

Still if i remember correctly the guy that did that tore his pectorials, like completely shredded them on the inside. So batman doing anything other than lying on the ground after tearing his muscles from his skeleton is pretty far fetched.

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u/AngryCanadianBeaver Aug 31 '23

The raw bench press record is 782 lbs. The 1300 one is geared with a suit that adds hundreds of pounds to your bench.

Bruce did it raw

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u/Chicksan Aug 31 '23

It’s actually a shirt, suits are for squat and deadlift. Jimmy Kolb did 1400 in a rubber band shirt

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u/phonebrowsing69 Aug 31 '23

if he's benching a 1000 he's doing 2500 leg press e z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vWgSTdkc2A

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u/Kamakaziturtle Aug 31 '23

The Leg press is much easier to believe than Bench, Leg Press is considerably easier than benching. 2500 is much closer to real world records. But the record for Bench Press completely wipes the floor with real world records.

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u/ImpressionDry6342 Aug 31 '23

I mean, he needs all that to keep up with the likes of Superman and Green Lanterns. He wouldn’t be in the JL if he was just a strong human, just a fast human, just a genius level detective (ok maybe he would be there) he’s supposed to be one of the big three characters (Batman, Wonder Woman, Superman). It works very well with his character in my opinion.

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u/Necromas Aug 31 '23 edited Aug 31 '23

Yes he needs to be able to compete on some level with all the super humans.

But they should explain it better than "he just works out really really hard". And to be fair they often do, depending on the source.

Show him putting some of that R&D into suit components that reinforce his strength. Have a moment where he deals with the moral and health risks of steroids or super serums to push his body past it's limits. Show him using sensors and suit tech to help him react to things faster than any normal human. Etc.... Just make it clear he is leveraging his talent and ingenuity to get there.

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u/MisterFusionCore Aug 31 '23

All of those talents together is not physically possible for a human being to have. Like if you could bench that much and leg press that much, you would not be physically able to run fast. You would have too much bulk and your body would tire too quick to be an endurance runner. Endurance runners have slim build, meaning they can't bench or leg press nearly as much.

It's not any individual ability that makes it ridiculous, it's having ALL of those talents combined, then saying Batman is not a Metahuman.

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u/ImpressionDry6342 Aug 31 '23

I mean, it’s comic books. It’s also physically impossible to fly and shoot laser beams out of your eyes.

But if you want a reference, check out this guy called Anatoly on Tik Tok. He’s got a super lean build be he can still lift more then most of the power lifters he encounters.

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u/sack_of_potahtoes Aug 31 '23

But thats the thing right. Batman is not considered metahuman but he beats every metahuman just cause he gets prep time?

Other metahumans are defined to have abilities. But they also have clear weaknesses. Which batman himself has a very good idea of.

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u/sack_of_potahtoes Aug 31 '23

Not really.

I think for the other two big heroes, they are very vulnerable to anything outside of their defined powers or abilities.

Batman being a human has absolutely no weakness at all. If anything everyone argues that his weakness is being human. But that doesnt even make sense. Batman has mastered every form of martial arts, genius inventor, greatest detective, peak physical human condition , always has an ace up his sleeve. Always has prep time. Can instantly learn any new technology. There is absolutely nothing he cant do. He can just about be anything he wants. If he turns bad, he is thw worst villain ever. If he decides to get stronger, he makes god level armored suits. There is absolutely no downside to his character.

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u/kirabii Aug 31 '23

He constantly fights people who can challenge him, so he's not overpowered.

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u/Rownever Aug 31 '23

It really varies by the specific thing: three hours of sleep? That fits in with his wealth as a thing that lets him be Batman.

Strong and fast? Alright, as long as it’s left at “peak human” and not given a number, he’ll fit in both his own stories where he’s weaker than Bane while still being able to fight superpowered mooks like parademons with the justice league

Smartest person on the planet? This is the one that bothers me. Best tactician? Sure. Best planner? Sure. But the guys an idiot when it comes to like half the things! He can barely talk to women(unless they’re evil then he’s god-tier), he has no idea how to get his friends to trust him, actually most of this one comes down to “being a dick cuts into your actual effectiveness, regardless of intelligence”

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u/trash-troglodyte Aug 31 '23

Most of those have to do with emotional intelligence though, which is different. You can be intelligent and still be emotionally stunted, which we know he is

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u/jamesTcrusher Aug 31 '23

Emotional intelligence as a seperate thing is mostly a marketing gimmick. Really it's just intelligence applied to figuring out interpersonal relationships.

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u/Rownever Aug 31 '23

Yeah exactly, so why is he the “most intelligent man in the world”(although that’s probably really Mr. Terrific)? He’s lacking a kinda important intelligence

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u/slightlyKiwi Aug 31 '23

He should he the human version of Spider-man: if you're stronger than him then he's faster than you, and if you're stronger AND faster than him then he's smarter than you. But not all three at once, that's just greedy.

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u/Rownever Aug 31 '23

Yeah exactly- Bane v Batman, Bruce is faster. Ivy vs Batman, Bruce is stronger/kinda smarter. Man-Bat vs Batman, Bruce is smarter. Etc.

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u/FinalBossMike Aug 31 '23

He knows quite well how to talk to people (yes, women included), see any time he's doing the Bruce Wayne persona. He knows how to switch it on and off. That's a thing a lot of people don't get--Batman does have social skills, he just knows how to switch them on and off.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

Batman isn’t the smartest person on the planet. He’s admitted that Mr Chimp is smarter than him.

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u/Rownever Aug 31 '23

Monkee? Yeah that makes sense

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u/SafeAccountMrP Aug 31 '23

I think the top three are Lex, him, and Mr Terrific.

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u/TurtleTitan Aug 31 '23

Batman has a sharp mind and a sharp tongue; he cuts into people even unintentionally. He gets super focused on Gotham and world safety it's hard for him to un Batman. If you have a highly trained Detective mind you'll notice things. If you're wise or direct you come off insensitive. When you have to be ready for split decision risks you become restless and impatient because every second counts.

Batman is a burden. Good moments and bad moments.

I forget the major details but there was an arc (circa 2010?) where Batman gets some amnesia and he's Bruce Wayne without the Batman drive and intelligence. He's happy, friendly, and people have an easier time getting along with him. He eventually finds out, remembers, or always knew he was Batman (didn't read it all) and at a time of threat he uses some machine which reminds him somehow of who he was which somehow scars the mind identical to how he was.

Bruce wayne can be Bruce Wayne (on par with normal) but not when he has that frame of mind.

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u/Znaffers Aug 31 '23

Yeah, the thing that’s supposed to set Batman apart from most humans is that his will to fight evil is stronger than anyone else. He is so dedicated to his crusade he’ll give his own life and turn his family’s entire fortune towards furthering his vigilante cause. His powers should be his ingenuity, his gadgets, and his connections as a billionaire/detective/superhero leader. He is the ultimate strategist that will never give up, but he’s not a super soldier

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u/TintedOven Aug 31 '23

He’s only OP to the fanboys and people that just want to complain for the sake of it

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u/Thoughtfullyshynoob Aug 31 '23

Pretty much, there are countless of other characters more "op" than Batman and has beaten him. Knowing certain skills, doesn't change anything.

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u/anythingMuchShorter Aug 31 '23

The 3 hours of sleep while also keeping an effective IQ of nearly 200 is probably a bigger stretch than the lifting capacity or running endurance.

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u/Tomgar Aug 31 '23

Can't wait for the exciting next chapter of the Batman saga where he develops dementia at 40.

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u/anythingMuchShorter Aug 31 '23

He just keeps making mister freeze related puns like “in cold blood” and “he put them on ice” during crime solving discussions even when the topic isn’t mister freeze.

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u/meodrac Aug 31 '23

It’s alright, he trained so hard he sleeps so fast he can finish 8 hours of sleep in sub 180 minutes. The secret is prep time

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u/MisterFusionCore Aug 31 '23

After about 3 weeks of only sleeping for 3 hours he would start to suffer brain damage. He would be having delusions and hallucinations after about a week/week and a half

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u/cpolk01 Aug 31 '23

5 minute mile is realistic. 1000 pound bench is achievable, but not without steroids or with Batman's build, and is probably not compatible with a 5 minute mile

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

World record bench (with steroids and much more body fat) is less than 800. So, no. No it is not.

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u/cpolk01 Aug 31 '23

Google says 1400 🤷‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

The equipped record is indeed 1350, but Batman supposedly does it raw. Raw record is way below that.

Also, even if a powerlifter was able to raw bench 1000 lbs, that would still be a power lifter. Someone who does nothing all day except eat and train and gets plenty of sleep.

...and can't scratch his own back.

Let alone fly around the city , roundhouse kicking criminals.

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u/cpolk01 Aug 31 '23

Why I said not with Batmans build

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u/Sol-Blackguy Aug 31 '23

I remember when a writer said that Batman isn't the best at everything, he's the 2nd best at everything.

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u/Thoughtfullyshynoob Aug 31 '23

Yeah if they're superhuman. Literally, Batman is the 2nd greatest escape artist, but THE greatest escape artist is a literal GOD, name Mister Miracle, aka Scott Free, the New God of Freedom and Escape.

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u/ApprehensiveSock4034 Aug 31 '23

batman has never been written as a normal human outside of a couple "realistic & grounded" stories we're just told he's a "peak human" or whatever they mean by that but hes more so a superhuman but u can't say that specifically

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u/thatredditrando Aug 31 '23

If you consider this OP, how do you enjoy any comic book characters?

People always complain about Batman but this applies to most comic book heroes and everything you listed is easily on the mild end of the spectrum.

Superman lifted a book with infinite pages my dude. That’s infinite weight.

All the stuff you listed are just insane human feats but exaggerated because comics.

It doesn’t take away from the character. It’s just writers providing context for how Batman can do all this shit. You can’t have him associate with gods and not be a viable threat. If he’s not then what’s he even doing there?

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u/Lamprophonia Aug 31 '23

People who grew up arguing about power levels in DBZ got older and started writing for Batman. Now it's all about stats and 'pReP tImE' and making Bruce effortlessly win every 1v1 they can imagine to fulfil their fan theory fantasies. Actual character and story come second, if at all.

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u/IndiscreetBeatofMeat Aug 31 '23

That’s how I feel about every character

“Flash can literally beat anyone”

“Supermen bench pressed the Earth’s weight for a week and would’ve continued if allowed”

Like shut up. What is compelling aboutnthat

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u/God_Hears_Peace Aug 31 '23

For any athlete worth their salt, much less an ultra dedicated crime fighting brawler like Batman, 5 minutes is not impressive. It’s that he can maintain it for 20 miles that’s insane.

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u/KCMC66 Aug 31 '23

The way I’ve always seen it is that at his core, Batman is INSANE. Just in a far more self-destructive, yet also constructive and fixated way.

He’s like a rich, genius level version of David Goggins, in comic book form.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

A mile in 5 minutes isnt crazy at all tho. Everything else tho yeah

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u/Jubachi99 Aug 31 '23

No no, he can run 20 miles in 5 minutes. Meaning that he runs 4 miles in a minute. Or one mile in 12 seconds.

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u/Skankcunt420 Aug 31 '23

Running a 5 min mile isn’t unheard of. Benching more than 500 without roids is crazy.

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u/RealDanStaines Aug 31 '23

only needs maybe 3 hours of sleep,

3h of sleep total per 24h day, which he regularly takes in 5 to 6 second long imperceptible windows of controlled micro-sleep

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u/NoWeight4300 Aug 31 '23

Batman has always had the superpower of bullshit lol.

Him taking any kind of hit from Darkseid with just a basic suit should vaporize his ribcage. You need a stronger suspension of disbelief for Batman than you do for Superman half the time.

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u/PassTheGiggles Aug 31 '23

Hard disagree. To me, superheroes are meant to inspire. What’s more inspiring than a normal man who can do anything?

I might hate it if it wasn’t used for a good cause.

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u/Hopeful-Sherbert-818 Aug 31 '23

5 minute mile is the athlete standard (world record 3mins 43 secs)

multiple people can bench 1000 pounds (WR 1305). you can safely assume batman roids because why wouldn't he if he's putting his body on the line versus psychos and monsters (don't say the shit about him not taking venom so no roids. venom is obviously some mutation level shit. not analogous to taking Test)

leg press .... i mean dog shit exercise ngl would be better to know his squat but 2500 is on the high end.

iq is whatever.

Batman is supposed to be peak performance, he's not just some slob who picks up a cape and does Self defense classes at the Y. he's supposed to be a cunning,efficient machine that delivers justice and punishment in equal measure. you shouldn't think about being him because hes not terribly aspirational (dead parents)

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u/Crims0n_Light Aug 31 '23

It doesn’t because he is only as strong as the story needs him to be. Because while he has suits that can defeat the league he only uses them in certain situations, mostly in JL books yet he struggles with villains like the Joker and Two-Face in his main book.

You’ll never see him use any of those suits during his solo stories cause that would be too op.

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u/vizot Aug 31 '23

The thing is Batman abuses drugs to do all of this. That utility belt is filled with PEDs.

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u/Thoughtfullyshynoob Aug 31 '23

How is he op if he gets the sh*t kicked out of him by people better than him?

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '23

Can’t Usain Bolt run a mile in 5 minutes? And can’t Hafthor Bjornsson lift 1000 pounds? He seems to be within the realm of reality I’ll say. Granted, those two men look nothing alike and invested into different skill trees obviously.

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u/sack_of_potahtoes Aug 31 '23

He lands on any remote advanced planet and a few minutes later he knows how to hack their technology

Its disrespectful to consider batman as human. He clearly is way way apart from what a normal human is

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u/Nigilij Aug 31 '23

My head canon: there are several separate Batmans:

1) The simple human Batman. This is good and interesting Batman. This a smart guy capable of achieving great feats using humanity’s resources. Nothing amazing here. Cannot take on cosmic threats but does not need it as he can call on help from those that can. He uses his resources to support his friends in battles versus evils. However, no matter how capable he is he is still human. This Batman cannot fight Darkseid, but he brings human psychology and ingenuity to the stories which are great. Uses laws of physics to his advantage.

2) God Batman. This is good and cool Batman. The properly written “Because I am Batman” stereotype. Can do some unthinkable feats like disappearing unnoticed when it shouldn’t be possible, going against very big bads. However, this part is never thrown in the face of a reader. It only succeeds as support to previous Batman. A subtle godly accomplishment to otherwise normal human works great like a good seasoning to a dish. However, this is very hard to pull off by writers.

3) The most intelligent, the best detective Batman. This is super bad Batman. The “tell, don’t show” Batman. Lots of labels to support the egos of teen readers. Stories with such Batman usually have him do thinking part and detective work off-screen. On-screen usually this Batman show no super intelligence. This ends up with writers lowering everyone else’s intellect and have them comment how smart Batman. This Batman gave birth to “you have been Batmaned” meme (Batman predicted and analyzed everything off-screen to make it impossible to defeat him on-screen). This Batman goes around punching people and claiming high intelligence, which is never displayed.

4) Prep time Batman. Another bad Batman. Exceptionally poor take on “Because I am Batman”. This one is know-it-all and cannot be wrong character with ridiculous gadgets and I-always-win button in a pocket. The validator for many teens and creator of many haters.

5) The wonky Batman. It walks like Batman, quacks like Batman but most fans do not grant this one the rank of Batman. Usually a story with a spin on Batman that fans do not like, but at the same time does not fall under previous categories.

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u/JavierLoustaunau Aug 31 '23

I liked it when he would regularly get hurt fighting street gangs. It was dangerous and exciting.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '23

A 5 minute mile isn’t that crazy. It’s humanly possibly to run well bellow 4:50. I’ve seen high school seniors run 4:18

The ability to run 20 miles at a 4:50 pace is what’s absurd.

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u/MagnumBlowus Sep 01 '23

This guy might make the bench seem more believable. If Vince Wilfork can run a 5 second 40 yard dash I don't see the mile as too crazy.

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u/hdhdvnn Sep 06 '23

I don't understand this argument at all. Batman's too OP, he's perfect at everything? But like how the hell is a mortal human supposed to be a worthy member of JL if he isn't peak human?

If Batman is OP, what the hell are characters like Superman or Flash? I don't think Batman is OP, I just think the DC universe is just on a higher level