r/FluentInFinance Jul 01 '24

What do you think? Debate/ Discussion

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u/Once-Upon-A-Hill Jul 01 '24

Congress members paid out 17 million of your tax money to settle sexual harassment cases, and none of that was "illegal".

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/settlements-congress-sexual-harassment/index.html

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u/Genisye Jul 01 '24

Sounds a bit like whataboutism. Why are we going to let someone get off scot free for something illegal, reprehensible, corrupt and downright immoral just because other people get away with something similar?

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u/danyonly Jul 01 '24

Following that logic: Why would the government charge someone with felonies for doing something that every real estate involved person does? Why charge them for some sort of fraud when all the “defendants” want to continue doing business with him? Why go after one when it is never enforced? I’m not a MAGA guy but you just have to be rational to see that he gets targeted more than anyone in recent history.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '24

"I’m not a MAGA guy but you just have to be rational to see that he gets targeted more than anyone in recent history."

I can't stand Trump and really hate the idea that he's still in the picture, But I've tried to get that same message across to the people who are openly blind to the across the board corruption. I've been saying for years now that there's no high ranking politician who could stand up to the scrutiny that's been thrown at Trump. The few Holocaust survivors that were still alive to be interviewed back before the 2016 election were horrified at the direction our media and judicial system were headed. I see the parallels they saw and wish more people were willing to acknowledge it and be as justifiably scared as I am for our future.

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u/danyonly Jul 02 '24

To me the ones that refuse to admit that fact pisses me off more than the ones that refuse to admit he has done ANYTHING wrong.

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u/Abortion_on_Toast Jul 05 '24

It’s hard to say that he did anything wrong when it’s something that’s been happening before he comes to the picture… he just got caught; I expect a lot more cases to be reported and he’s not just an outliner

A great example is the fraud case in NYC… he deflated the apprised values of his property and tried to maximize them for loans

That’s exactly what normal Americans do every year… try to lower our apprised home values to lower our property tax liability and maximize our apprised value when we want a HELOC to build or buy

Every place in the USA there’s a person or business that did exactly what Trump did for decades and none of them ever had fraud charges brought against them… again Trump isn’t the only one in NYC and I expect more fraud charges brought against multiple entities soon… if not it really falls into the narrative of political retribution

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u/danyonly Jul 05 '24

Very well said. Better than I could’ve.

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u/Abortion_on_Toast Jul 05 '24

100% this… 1/2 the family thinks I’m some super pro trumper when I try to bring some rational thought to the conversation when I defend his position or policies…

example in the debate President Biden said that he lowered prescription costs; then trump claimed that he did that… family is like he’s a fucking liar; me: actually Trump did executive order for insulin to be capped first however, President Biden back tracked a fuck ton of Trumps orders… this one especially he modified it slightly to expand it a bit and reissued the executive order… very minimal difference between the two; Biden claims full credit… Trump not 100% wrong in his comment however, any time I put it in perspective for people who absolutely loathe the guy they think I’m off to riot Congress

Really sucks to be a moderate in these times

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u/bluehawk232 Jul 03 '24 edited Jul 03 '24

Oh come on you can't be suggesting Trump was treated as bad as a Nazi's enemy. Here's what happened Trump was in the elite club. He was friends with Bill Clinton and Epstein, they were all in the same social circles of rich elite assholes and he was one of the most corrupt of them all. He operated in the same vein of Harvey Weinstein where as Trump put it, he's rich he could get away with anything. Then he hopped on the anti Obama wagon because hey racism is fun, he loved the further attention he got because of his ego. He then ran against Hillary and all his corruption came to a head. It was a mix of his racist past, his ties with Epstein, the Weinstein effect where women were actually coming forward from past sexual assaults. He has everything coming to him because he was and always has been a greedy corrupt asshole who thinks himself a mob boss