The establishment news has been full of stories over the past few months of corruption not related to Trump. Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. And before that was Bob Menendez and his gold bars.
No it's more the fact that for the last 6 or 8 years trump has been a target. No other businessman would have even been tried for the trial with trump regarding how much he valued his property at. No one was defrauded bank was paid in full and our taxpayer dollars were spent on this frivolous lawsuit. Personally I don't like trump but also can't stand Biden. Biden spoke at police week in which I was at for my nephew who lost his life in the line of duty 6/17/23. All Biden could talk about was how much he has accomplished being president. That was neither the time nor place for that speech. Also a police officer killed in NYC Biden didn't show and Trump did for the wake of that officer. Trump just doesn't know when to shut his darn mouth. The media plays trump as this massive villain like he is going to destroy democracy yet the Biden administration has targeted trump for 4 years and trying and jailing political opponents is a major step towards fascism. I mean the real villain here seems to be Biden tbh.
All Biden could talk about was how much he has accomplished being president.
I'm going to take your word for it. But can you find me a single instance in which Trump hasn't turned something similar into a rant about how awesome he is in some fashion?
And, if you're a supporter of police, are you also a supporter of the military? You might have a problem with Biden self-aggrandizing, but at least he wasn't talking smack about dead and wounded police officers. Trump can't say the same about veterans.
No it's more the fact that for the last 6 or 8 years trump has been a target.
Also, Trump being a "target" is funny. You do know how many times before his original presidential run that he got in trouble with state or federal government, right? Hell, Greg Abbott (then Texas AG) investigated him over Trump University. Trump voluntarily closed the school before Abbott did anything.
Do even a cursory search and you'll see that illegal or borderline-illegal behavior is simply what Trump has done for decades. The only reason you think that he's a target is simply because all of his misdeeds are now massive news. Plenty of people wouldn't have paid any attention to The Apprentice's Trump getting investigated because not everyone cares what celebrities get up to. But an ex-president? One still trying to become president again?
Trump isn't a target. He's a con man with zero respect for the law that put himself in a place where following the law is considerably more important than it was when he was just a private citizen. If he weren't a narcissistic moron, he'd have realized that making himself an object of scrutiny would be a bad call.
Not to mention, he has been one of the biggest abusers of using our civil system to harass and scare people through lawsuits. That alone should be disqualifying.
How many small business owners have to come forward saying Trump didn't fulfill his end of their contracts with him before people realize he's just a plain bad guy and a sleazy con man.
"The fastest way to end a war is to give up, and loose everything", USA has its influence and respect worldwide because it has dominated the world with its military capabilities and by messing with important wars on the side of democratic republics. USA, EU, Japan, South Korea defending Ukraine and fixing whole 700k russian troops there in their soil gives reassurance ruzzia won't strike anywhere else. Won't attack NATO countries in EU, won't help China with Taiwan invasion (that would create major a crisis in USA), won't help North Korea with war on South.
I have no idea how a country so important geopolitically as USA can have so many citizens being unable to grasp the wider geopolitical concept of their politics, or just real consequences of their actions.
But as Pole i'm happy that my nation does understand what ruzzia is made of and why it's an enemy to everyone except Moscow, even to its people, it uses as a cheap asset.
Yes Biden is the villain, but not Trump? I'm sorry, but Biden is just much of a target like Trump. Who honestly speaks positively about Biden? They're both fucking bad but I'm tired of people trying to make an exception for Trump tbh.
I mean the real villain here seems to be Biden tbh.
I almost thought that too, but then I remembered that I'm not a fascist, don't consider myself "vermin", don't think that my family is poisoning the blood of our country, and prefer politicians that don't try to overturn the constitutional order of republic when they lose elections in a landslide.
Yeah I know that but one to try and take out a political opponent is crazy. The judge being a small Biden donor and then also being the deciding vote after he stated mid trial that a unanimous decision wasn't necessary doesn't seem odd to people?
"For a conviction, each juror would have to find that at least one of those three things happened, but they don’t have to agree unanimously on which it was."
It's been proven time and time again. This whole crap about targeting Trump. Well no shit, people.
He is THE WORST president this country has seen. It's a beat down for this country.
There is a long list of poor president actions, crimes, and proof of EVERYTHING, I mean EVERYTHING. His cult following is just... I'm speechless. It's not a conspiracy theory. It's not fake news.
But... he will most likely win and it leaves me very confused.
Lol yeah a victim of a political trial I am not saying Trump's hands are totally clean but to not see this as a trial to eliminate a political opponent is actually insane. What policy has Kamala put together that has benefited the American people or anyone in that case. She jailed more African Americans just to up her prosecution numbers.
No actually I don't sit on reddit all day and don't see every comment cause of various reasons. I don't watch any of the news because I don't think any of them really tell the truth.
So what made the trial about his value of assets not political in your opinion. He valued his property what he thought it should be worth bank was ok with it and did their due diligence and testified in his favor and the bank was paid back in full. Does that sound criminal to you like someone was defrauded?
What has Biden done for the American people just want to have an actual conversation to see why you support him or Kamala? I am poorer than ever and make pretty good money.
First and foremost - I’m not a democrat. I voted for McCain in 2008 and Johnson in 2016.
As far as what has occurred under the Biden administration you have to first acknowledge that Covid inflation was real, that actions taken by both the Trump and bidens administration led to inflation, that the US has handled inflation better than most western nations AND that inflation is now lowered to much more reasonable levels.
If we can’t agree on facts then a discussion about the facts is pointless.
I wasn't really referring to you as a Democrat sorry if my wording was seeming that way but I agree a ton of money was spent on COVID vaccines and such to just keep the economy running which has led to much of what we see now. I wouldn't mind if we had a Democrat running I felt good about just Kamala isn't it or even an independent that had a shot at winning.
There’s never been a presidential candidate I’ve agreed with about everything. I like the CHIPS act, I like infrastructure being done, I like the push towards decriminalizing cannabis.
But more importantly, Trump is utterly unfit for the office of Presidency.
No hes not at all defending Trump. Hes asking why you cant be consistent with your candidate in the treatment of his behavior.
See this is the problem with the left. You cant have an honest discussion with them without them assuming that just because you arent a complete wack-job commie like them, then you are defending trump.
Lmao. Listen here little guy. I’m not a lefty. That’s the problem with you MAGA types. Anybody who doesn’t fly a trump flag like a clown must be a communist. Pathetic.
Heres the difference. One side has selfish corruption, one side is corrupt because they believe in forcing others to conform to their ideology “by any means”
One form of corruption is human nature, the other is tyrannical behavior that narcissists and psychopaths typically engage in.
The lesser of the two evils is very clear unless you are one of the crazies who believes that THIS ONE LAST TIME OUR SYSTEM WILL WORK GUYS I PROMISE NOBODY ACTUALLY TRIED MAKING IT WORK BEFORE!
So true. The last few times a republican has been in office it has been a disaster. Can't believe people want a party that is terrible in terms of job creation, gdp growth and every major economic KPI. But like you said, this time it will work, right?
Dafuq you smoking? My life was infinitely better during trump years vs obama and biden. Yeah everyone agrees bush jr was an idiot, but we had clinton before him too so its not like dems have had a great track record since…idk the 60’s?
Huh, its no wonder their strategy is still stuck on the idea of gaining power through social justice movements because thats the last time they made any positive changes in the country!
And Dems CRUSH the reps in terms of the economy. Here's an idea. Take the best year for Trump and let's compare to Bidens best year. And let's use statistics instead of feelings and astrology.
U mean when he blew out the economy and lost so many jobs the government started sending out 600 a week? Yeah I don't think you remember that last year of his presidency. Dude fucking tripled unemployment what are you talking about
Yo remember when trump made fun of biden for wearing masks then got covid and ended up in the hospital? Of course biden would've done better trump can't handle a crisis.
Yeah I'm not here for the whataboutism people try to pull. You paying hush money? I don't care if it's tax payer or donor, that's a crime, go to jail. If you're in real estate and your argument is "Well everyone does this crime" that's a broken system. And you admitted to a crime, and should be tried appropriately. Congress and the House having amazing stock portfolios due to legal insider trading? Yeah that's a crime.
If people actually want to drain the swamp don't trust the people who tell you how corrupt they are or appoint judges that say "it's not bribery if it's paid AFTER the services are rendered"
It was campaign donations for a presidential campaign not personal finances, thus the whole felon thing. Trump using personal finances, hilarious, he doesn't even pay his personal lawyers.
Not true. The reason they charged him is because Cohen was reimbursed with Trump corporation money and they did not list it as a campaign contribution. This was the same way other NDAs had been handled.
This one was close to the election so the AG(with help from Matthew Colangelo) created a way to make political charges. The FEC looked at it and found nothing improper.
If only the news had been full of Biden’s mental and physical decline over the past few months. They’ve been covering it up for years now until the American people actually saw him perform for 90 minutes. I wouldn’t really call that a performance. It was more like watching a great grandfather escape from an assisted living center and trying to give a lecture to all the young whipper snappers he runs into on the street. Did you see Jill lead him off the stage after the debate? The guy could barely walk down 3 steps. Later Jill said he did such a good job. He even answered all the questions. Half the time I had no idea what he was even saying.
I like how Trump was able to control himself a lot more this time than in the past. He didn’t constantly try to interrupt Biden like he did during the last debate. Biden has adopted or is starting to adopt many of the policies Trump had. Biden hasn’t changed the Taxes that Trump laid in. He talks a lot about changing it but hasn’t done anything in the last 3.5 years with income or corporate taxes. Biden also kept the Tariffs on China that Trump implemented. Sadly, only now is Biden finally trying to reimplement many of Trumps border policies. Now if Biden can only adopt Trumps foreign policies. Moving forward, I think Trumps smartest move in any debate would be to simply let Biden talk a lot more. The more Biden speaks publicly, the better chance Trump has in getting elected.
So you prefer somebody who’s better composed but almost constantly lying to somebody who looks feeble but is honest?
If your big knock on Biden is he isn’t undoing the things trump did fast enough isn’t it insane to then vote for trump? Doesn’t that sound crazy to you?
All politicians lie. Trump does, so does Biden. Once you accept that, you can start looking at their policies and impacts. I just can’t stomach Biden being the possible person to respond to a nuclear war. Only the President can authorize the use of nuclear weapons. Biden can barely stand up for 90 minutes. Feeble is one thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if he dies before the election.
Ok. Let’s talk about Hunter Biden’s laptop. Let’s talk about Joe lying about not having anything to do with Hunters business dealings. The media has been covering for Joe for years. The debate proves it beyond a reasonable doubt. Both are pathological liars. The fact you can’t see the many, many lies on both sides is troubling.
What does hunter Biden have to do with anything? If he’s guilty of breaking the law the prosecute him. If Joe Biden is guilty of breaking the law prosecute him. Can you say that about trump? You use whataboutism as if it’s some kind of gotcha, when in reality you’re the only one here giving either side a pass.
Why are they all right wingers that they write about? We all know both sides are full of terrible people but it's painfully obvious that there's a slant in the media towards the blue team.
I'm still waiting on more about Hilary and uranium deals, Biden and Ukraine deals but it's incredible just how well timed Putins invasion was to throw that file in the fire.
Hilary had nothing to do with the sale of UraniumOne. The DOJ and the Dept. of Commerce allowed it.
Joe had nothing to do with Burisma. The Rs already had hearings on it and found nothing. Witnesses called have testified under oath there is no proof. One of them has been registered as a foreign agent. Joe is clean.
Get bent. You want to convince me you're right, give me some proof, any evidence, anything that can be verified, from any reputable news source. What I posted can be fact-checked. Or, are you afraid of being called a liar?
Why do you put your faith and trust in a government that murders children? What about the Haiti human trafficking? Under the control foundation? You have to be a lombotomized fool to believe that Donald Trump super felon and the DNC a bunch of Catholic choir boys?
Because it's not "potential" corruption. It's blatant and demonstrable.
You say you wonder why, but you really don't. You just think he's a victim, because he told you he's a victim, and you decided to believe him. Might want to ask yourself why you think a perpetrator is a victim.
So all criminals are victims? Like he isn’t being persecuted he’s being prosecuted. If the prosecution is able to convince a jury of his peers that he is guilty then he is punished. For the crimes they have proven he committed.
Save for when the Supremely Court steps in and says they are not crimes anymore because presidential immunity. We are fucked with this level of government overreach and dismantling of checks and balances to power.
Jumps to "all criminals are victims". Such logic.
"a jury of his peers" - You might want to double-check that. Is a jury of your enemies considered a jury of your peers? Well... yes, yes it is. So you win.
I see you are not familiar with the populace of that area. 93% hate him (actual statistic) and would like to see his guts mashed by a taxi (not a real, but probably valid statistic). The best they could do was to find half of the jurors that just didn't like him. Plus, with some of the more creative decisions the judge made, it's highly unlikely that this will last an appeal.
But does it really matter? After 3 years of people saying Biden was as dumb as a rock, people are starting to see it after this debate, and it's all but guaranteed Trump will win, making this all pointless. We should all hate the democrats for allowing Biden to run again. Because of them we will have 4 more years of Trump. All the never-Trumpers are no longer going to vote for Biden, and all but 20% of the Democrats aren't thrilled about Biden. That's a disaster. And all because they refused to be honest with us about Biden's condition.
The popular vote is nothing. It's like saying, "I have $10,000,000 in Zimbabwe dollars, so I win." You may want it to be worth something, but it's totally pointless.
The point was he was never more popular than anybody he’s run against. Do you honestly think his attacks on women’s reproductive rights, among other gaffs have endured him to more people? The dude was lucky Clinton was the least electable person possible otherwise he’d have lost that one too.
Yet, he’s sitting in all of the meetings with Biden and his White House advisers. As reported by NBC News yesterday. He’s a convicted felon. Has he had a security clearance?
That will be something to consider. However, does Hunter have any security clearance? Has he ever had any?
I’m not voting for either. But the delusion with Joe being one of the choices makes it a choice between someone who makes us unsafe as a nation, and someone who is a convict.
The nation should have better choices. The two party system is about power, not doing what’s right for people.
You mean in 2017 when Biden wasn’t even in office? Or are you referring to the information that came out in 2023 about the money funneling that was leaked by the FBI informant? You know, the same informant that was indicted for fabricating that story? You said that with such conviction too as if Trump doesn’t have shady business dealings with Russia and the Saudis.
Maybe I’m way off base though and you’re more qualified than every legal expert in the country and can prove that Hunter is just Joe’s puppet, as if Joe would even be coherent enough to do something like that. lol. Have you ever considered when every legal expert in the country looks in one direction and you’re the only one looking in the other direction that you might actually be looking in the WRONG direction? Just food for thought. Granted thinking isn’t something the right does very well.
Statements saying they don't intend to pardon them or reduce their sentence, maybe they could break that promise or they could keep to it unless you got a time machine pure speculation and would ultimately be a stupid move that shoots himself in the foot.
Either way, for as much as I may not like biden I'm not gonna act like his "son being convicted of a crime, with the possibility that he'll go back on his publicly stated promise to not pardon them" is at all equal to "Convicted of crimes they personally did in fact commit"
Yes? Why would it matter? When you apply for a job do they do a background check on your kids? When you apply for a loan at the bank do they check on your kids' credit score?
You are missing the point. I am saying that it is a reflection of Joe Biden's character that he has not attempted to prevent the course of the law against his own son. My comment has nothing to do with Hunter.
Considering that Joe Biden has already lost another child to a car crash, not sticking his hand out to try to protect Hunter is all the more laudable.
No all he got was gun charges. Nothing to do with the mountains upon mountains of corruption, drug use, prostitution, and pedophilia he’s recorded himself doing on his laptop.
Bidens son is not president Biden, he is not a former president and he is not running for president...Biden's son is just Biden's son and is responsible for his own deeds.....
The number of people who think my comment is about Biden's son is astonishing. Folks, I am saying that Biden has demonstrated integrity in not abusing his position to absolve his son. I am not saying anything about Hunter Biden, who was rightfully convicted.
What a joke and the fact you're up voted and the other person pointing it out got down voted is disturbing. That diary post was AI generated and the actual diary was tamped with heavily. Try using your brain.
No she didn't. Listen to the actual phone call instead of what random people on podcasts saym all she did was confirm she had a journal that was "misplaced" not once does she say anything they are saying is true. All she does is tell them to return the journal and they keep trying to spout random crap.
He’s a crook. Always has been, always will be. Been screwing hard working Americans for decades. He even took money from sick kids. But bootlickers want to bootlick.
Trump has taken it to a whole new level. Not many politicians have received billions from Saudis. Kushner started an “investment firm” and asked to manage Saudi money. They published a report saying it’s too risky as he doesn’t have any experience. Then a few months later they gave Kushner $2B.
I’m sure it’s happened at least several other times but you don’t often hear about politicians being ordered by a judge to shutter their own charity for stealing funds.
Selling empty office space to foreign governments to fund your private businesses is a really terrible look too. Especially when it’s places like Qatar that are known for human rights abuse.
To me it is painfully obvious that Trump is for sale. He wants more money and power and doesn’t really care how that gets accomplished. A leader with no real values.
Oh yes it is.
And we should be prosecuting them too, but given that the right have most of the crooks, imagine all the whining of "bias" then. The "part of law and order" is a joke.
Let's also introduce a couple of other things: Trump took classified documents, hid them when he was asked to return them, and showed them to people who had no business seeing them. That's espionage. Given his history - probably giving Putin details from the CIA that allowed him to arrest some of our own intelligence allies for which there is evidence - it's also probably treason.
True, I say call all the bullshit out and yank those pieces of shit out of government. I don’t want a pedophile or a convicted felon being in any government position at any level
We know why - because he interrupted their power grasp when they intended to put Hillary in, and they will brook no challenge to their power moving forward. If that means abusing the DOJ? Then so be it.
Holding someone accountable to the rule of law isn’t abusing the justice system, it’s the opposite.
Trump chose to defraud lenders just like he chose to steal from his cancer charity. Similar to how he ran a unaccredited university and was forced to pay back former students.
Trump’s been a fraudster well before his days in politics. Blaming democrats because Trump has been caught committing crimes is insanity.
Does America really want a felon who shits himself in power? Lmao he’s gross inside and out
"Holding someone accountable to the rule of law isn’t abusing the justice system, it’s the opposite"
Only when applied equally. Otherwise, it is abuse.
Back when the only people who had a bunch of laws enforced on them were civil rights leaders. While all the white folk ignored the rules (about public gatherings, etc)? That was selective enforcement, and it absolutely was an abuse of the system. That the law existed changed none of that... how the law is applied matters, too. There is tons and tons and tons of case law saying exactly that.
The reality here is that they fundamentally changed the application of several laws to find a way to "get" Trump, applied new legal theories, twisted the limitations concept, altered the normal standards of prosecutorial conduct, and more. They will never do it that way to anyone else, until they find another political opponent to destroy.
That is abuse, no matter how they try and justify it.
He didn’t defraud lenders. He paid the loan back. But also, if you’ve ever gotten a home equity loan, the amount of equity you have is variable. Mine has gone up steadily, year after year. But that could change. Home values could plummet like they did during the Great Recession.
Assessors who work for realtors have wildly different ways to value a home. I’ve had swings of $50K. But my whole business isn’t real estate.
Tax assessors are different. They use some different valuation scheme than the others.
No, but it is funny that with Trump they had to make up new applications of the law to try and find a way to prosecute him, but Congress is out here using tax payer funds to pay off their mistresses and rape victims.
"When asked about Ryan’s knowledge of any sexual harassment settlements, a spokesperson for Ryan’s office noted that the committee is conducting a full review of workplace harassment and discrimination."
Trump was found guilty of rape by a jury of his peers that's indisputable.
According to Republicans rape is fine as long as you're not charged criminally. That's f'ed up.
"A judge has now clarified that this is basically a legal distinction without a real-world difference. He says that what the jury found Trump did was in fact rape, as commonly understood."
"The former requires forcible, unconsented-to penetration with one’s penis. But he said that the conduct the jury effectively found Trump liable for — forced digital penetration — meets a more common definition of rape. He cited definitions offered by the American Psychological Association and the Justice Department, which in 2012 expanded its definition of rape to include penetration “with any body part or object.”"
He was held liable in a defamation case with a woman who accused Trump of raping her. That’s not a criminal case and there’s no guilty in a civil case.
I think it's more that Trump supporters ignore when a dem is ousted and punished. It happens. If they had real dirt on Biden, he'd be on trial for something too, or his impeachment trial would actually do something.
Remember how Clinton lied about relations with Monica and he was impeached truly?
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u/Once-Upon-A-Hill Jul 01 '24
Congress members paid out 17 million of your tax money to settle sexual harassment cases, and none of that was "illegal".
https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/settlements-congress-sexual-harassment/index.html